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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  TR1 on Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:44 am

    Man I hate defense journos.

    The Novorosiisk was laid down in 2010, has just been launched, and is not yet commissioned.
    Stary Oskol was laid down 2 years later, has not been launched (and neither has the Rostov, which was laid down in late 2011), and they say all 3 will be commissioned THIS year?

    Bull.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:33 pm

    Second Russian project 636.3 (Rostov-on-Don) to be launched in May

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Viktor on Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:28 pm

    4th project 636.3 for Black Sea Fleet lay down  thumbsup 

    In St. Petersburg, the fourth non-nuclear submarine lay Project 636 "Krasnodar" for the Russian Navy
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    Πroject 636.3

    Post  zg18 on Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:19 pm

    Second Project 636.3 "Improved" Kilo launched, "Rostov on Don" for Black sea Fleet





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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Viktor on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:49 am

    New Kilo delivered to RuAN for BF  thumbsup 

    Diesel submarine "Novorossiysk" will be part of the Russian Navy
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    New kilo class

    Post  Mike E on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:55 am

    Great!!! The Black Sea Fleet needs these ASAP, and they are delivering!
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Viktor on Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:02 pm

    In three days one more Kilo for BSF will enter the water

    The third submarine, nicknamed NATO "black hole", was launched in the Russian Federation
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Mike E on Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:19 am

    Wow! They really are pumping these things out!
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Viktor on Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:56 am

    Another day and another Russian sub hits the water thumbsup

    Third diesel submarines for the Black Sea Fleet was launched in St. Petersburg
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Mike E on Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:59 am

    Viktor wrote:Another day and another Russian sub hits the water  thumbsup

    Third diesel submarines for the Black Sea Fleet was launched in St. Petersburg

    russia russia russia russia russia  Gotta love those Kilos!
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    Kilo class submarines

    Post  Viktor on Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:24 pm

    5th and 6th Kilo class for BSF will be layed down by the end of 2014 on the same day thumbsup

    The last two "Varshavyanka" for the Black Sea Fleet will lay in one day
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    Imp Kilo/Kilo class submarine:

    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:46 pm

    Third Varshavyanka class submarine for Russia’s Black Sea Fleet to be launched soon

    ST. PETERSBURG, August 28./ITAR-TASS/. The third Varshavyanka class submarine - Stary Oskol of Project 636.3, built for Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, will be launched at the Admiralty Wharves Shipyard in St. Petersburg on Thursday.

    Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov is expected to attend the ceremony.

    A total of six Varshavyanka class submarines will be built for the Black Sea Fleet. According to the Navy commander, the submarines “will fulfil jointly with the naval surface forces and antisubmarine aircraft complex tasks in their responsibility zone.” They will also strengthen the combat capability of Russia’s naval task force in the Mediterranean.

    The head submarine of the series - Novorossiysk, was laid down in August 2010 and delivered to the fleet in the presence of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on August 22, 2014. After a voyage to the North it will pass two-week deepwater sea trials at the Northern Fleet ranges. Rostov-on-Don - the second submarine of the project and simultaneously the first series Varshavyanka for the Black Sea Fleet, was laid down in November 2011 and launched on June 26, 2014.

    The Stary Oskol submarine was laid down in August 2012, and the fourth submarine of the project - Krasnodar - in February 2014.

    The laying down of the fifth and sixth submarines of the class is planned in late October this year, for the 310th anniversary of Admiralty Wharves. The submarines will be named Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino.

    The Varshavyanka-class third-generation diesel-electric subs were designed by the Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering (St. Petersburg). Dubbed by the US Navy as “black holes in the ocean,” they are almost undetectable when submerged, designed for anti-shipping and anti-submarine missions in relatively shallow waters.

    The submarines, armed with torpedoes, mines and cruise missiles, displace 3,100 tonnes, reach speeds of 20 knots, can dive to 300 metres and carry crews of 52 people.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Mike E on Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:25 pm

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:54 pm

    Russia's first Varshavyanka-class submarine, the Novorossiisk, has entered service with the Black Sea fleet

    Russia's first Varshavyanka-class submarine, the Novorossiisk, has entered service with the Black Sea fleet

    MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti) – Russia's first Varshavyanka-class submarine, the Novorossiisk, has entered service with the Black Sea fleet, the Southern Military District's press service said Wednesday.

    The submarine currently remains at the Admiralty shipyard in St. Petersburg and will head to the Black Sea port of Novorossiisk after completing final trials with the Northern Fleet.

    The Defense Ministry has ordered a total of six Varshavyanka-class subs, dubbed "black holes in the ocean" by the US Navy because they are nearly undetectable when submerged.

    The Novorossiisk was laid down in August 2010. Back in August 2014, Russian Navy Commander Admiral Viktor Chirkov confirmed that two Project 636.3 diesel-electric submarines, the Novorossiysk and the Rostov-on-Don, would join the Black Sea Fleet by the end of the year. The construction of all six subs is to be completed by 2016.

    The submarines are primarily intended for anti-ship and anti-submarine missions in relatively shallow waters. They will be crewed by 52 submariners, have an underwater speed of 20 knots and a cruising range of 400 miles with the ability to patrol for 45 days.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:11 pm

    russia russia

    That is what I like to hear!
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Viktor on Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:14 pm

    Excellent thumbsup

    Vladikavkaz modernized.

    COMPLETED stacker stage of repair of submarines "VLADIKAVKAZ
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  TR1 on Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:16 pm

    George1 wrote:Russia's first Varshavyanka-class submarine, the Novorossiisk, has entered service with the Black Sea fleet

    Russia's first Varshavyanka-class submarine, the Novorossiisk, has entered service with the Black Sea fleet

    MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti) – Russia's first Varshavyanka-class submarine, the Novorossiisk, has entered service with the Black Sea fleet, the Southern Military District's press service said Wednesday.

    The submarine currently remains at the Admiralty shipyard in St. Petersburg and will head to the Black Sea port of Novorossiisk after completing final trials with the Northern Fleet.

    The Defense Ministry has ordered a total of six Varshavyanka-class subs, dubbed "black holes in the ocean" by the US Navy because they are nearly undetectable when submerged.

    The Novorossiisk was laid down in August 2010. Back in August 2014, Russian Navy Commander Admiral Viktor Chirkov confirmed that two Project 636.3 diesel-electric submarines, the Novorossiysk and the Rostov-on-Don, would join the Black Sea Fleet by the end of the year. The construction of all six subs is to be completed by 2016.

    The submarines are primarily intended for anti-ship and anti-submarine missions in relatively shallow waters. They will be crewed by 52 submariners, have an underwater speed of 20 knots and a cruising range of 400 miles with the ability to patrol for 45 days.

    Entered service into the BSF without being anywhere near the BSF.

    Hmmm.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Stealthflanker on Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:36 am

    TR1 wrote:

    Entered service into the BSF without being anywhere near the BSF.

    Hmmm.

    Guess it's pretty long way to get to the BSF base.


    Other than that, would love to see better 636 with AIP in the future.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  navyfield on Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:07 pm

    wasnt there a kilo with a pumpjet ,and in bsf, why new kilos dont have a pumpjet, its lack is a major drawback..!
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:31 pm

    navyfield wrote:wasnt there a kilo with a pumpjet ,and in bsf, why new kilos dont have a pumpjet, its lack is a major drawback..!

    Why you have nothing else but crying and bitching to contribute, lacking constructive post is a major drawback........::::!!!!!! Exclamation Question Arrow

    It wouldn't be painful to read all your comments if they were at least writen in an english accent. Now i have to read your comments in some funny accent just to overlook the dim content of your comments.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:07 pm

    navyfield wrote:wasnt there a kilo with a pumpjet ,and in bsf, why new kilos dont have a pumpjet, its lack is a major drawback..!

    According to the U.S. Navy the Improved Kilo's are considered "black holes" of the oceans, and like blackholes their both invisible and very dangerous.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Stealthflanker on Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:08 pm

    navyfield wrote:wasnt there a kilo with a pumpjet ,and in bsf, why new kilos dont have a pumpjet, its lack is a major drawback..!

    and why the F every diesel-electric sub out there still use conventional propeller ?

    Being silent is sure nice BUT don't you ever think of clogging whenever the sub operate in coastal area ? Where the sea bed might be shallow.

    Or perhaps loss of propulsive efficiency ?
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:31 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    navyfield wrote:wasnt there a kilo with a pumpjet ,and in bsf, why new kilos dont have a pumpjet, its lack is a major drawback..!

    and why the F every diesel-electric sub out there still use conventional propeller ?

    Being silent is sure nice BUT don't you ever think of clogging whenever the sub operate in coastal area ? Where the sea bed might be shallow.

    Or perhaps loss of propulsive efficiency ?
    Yeah, pump jets aren't without problems.... They are less efficient at lower speeds, which is a problem as diesels aren't known to be very fast... As Stealth said, they can be clogged with just about anything, and that problem gets much worse at the shallow depths the Kilos will operate... - Aka, they aren't any good for diesel powered subs! Most importantly, and this make you a hypocrite Navy, is that pump jets are much more complex and expensive. Which just happens to be your main argument *against AIP*!

    That being said, pump jets can be worth while on larger subs and ships.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  navyfield on Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:00 pm

    Mike E wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:
    navyfield wrote:wasnt there a kilo with a pumpjet ,and in bsf, why new kilos dont have a pumpjet, its lack is a major drawback..!

    and why the F every diesel-electric sub out there still use conventional propeller ?

    Being silent is sure nice BUT don't you ever think of clogging whenever the sub operate in coastal area ? Where the sea bed might be shallow.

    Or perhaps loss of propulsive efficiency ?
    Yeah, pump jets aren't without problems.... They are less efficient at lower speeds, which is a problem as diesels aren't known to be very fast... As Stealth said, they can be clogged with just about anything, and that problem gets much worse at the shallow depths the Kilos will operate... - Aka, they aren't any good for diesel powered subs! Most importantly, and this make you a hypocrite Navy, is that pump jets are much more complex and expensive. Which just happens to be your main argument *against AIP*!

    That being said, pump jets can be worth while on larger subs and ships.
    oh please its just a simple shroud ,its nothing super mechanicaly complex ,however 2 propellers are used.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Stealthflanker on Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:04 pm

    navyfield wrote:
    oh please its just a simple shroud ,its nothing super mechanicaly complex ,however 2 propellers are used.

    What the fuck you are talking about ? Pumpjet design have a book on its own, separated from propellers.

    Seriously. You seem don't bother to use your brain eh ? What a waste.

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