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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:42 pm

    Another picture of the Stary Oskol escorted by Turkish Coast Guard vessel TCSG-88 and trailed by Turkish ASW boat P-1207 TCG Tekirdağ during the submarines passage through Istanbul on 29th June. Frigate TCG Yıldırım was waiting for the submarine at the northern entrance of the Strait. Everyone recording as much as possible of her sounds no doubt.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:52 am

    JohninMK wrote: Frigate TCG Yıldırım was waiting for the submarine at the northern entrance of the Strait. Everyone recording as much as possible of her sounds no doubt.

    Russian sailors  should play German disco. This could make all sonars kaputt Smile
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:54 pm

    Last submarine of 0636 Project put in the sea



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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:11 pm


    Last overall or last for Black Sea Fleet?

    There should be 6 more for Pacific Fleet right? And Lord knows Baltic Fleet could use some of them.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:14 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Last overall or last for Black Sea Fleet?

    There should be 6 more for Pacific Fleet right? And Lord knows Baltic Fleet could use some of them.

    Last for BLS fleet


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:37 am

    via Keypublishing forum pretty interesting stats for the BSF order

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    Russian Defense ministry sign contract for 6 Project 636 submarines

    Post  Ned86 on Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:00 pm

    Russian Defense ministry sign contract for 6 Project 636 submarines for pacific fleet.
    Submarines will be built between 2018-2021.

    Finally pacific fleet will get real boost with these new 6 submarines. I hope they will modernize some older Kilo's already in service, so total number of Diesel submarines in pacific fleet would be increased.

    https://defence.ru/vmc/minoboroni-podpisalo-kontrakt-na-shest-varshavyanok-dlya-tikhookeanskogo-flota/
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:27 pm

    Ned86 wrote:Russian Defense ministry sign contract for 6 Project 636 submarines for pacific fleet.
    Submarines will be built between 2018-2021.

    Finally pacific fleet will get real boost with these new 6 submarines. I hope they will modernize some older Kilo's already in service, so total number of Diesel submarines in pacific fleet would be increased.

    https://defence.ru/vmc/minoboroni-podpisalo-kontrakt-na-shest-varshavyanok-dlya-tikhookeanskogo-flota/

    Nice. Then maybe there is a contract of 3-4 subs for Baltic fleet also


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:20 pm

    'Black holes' of the Russian Navy

    For the first time TASS publishes photos of Project 636.3 Varshavyanka submarines taken from a quadrocopter during sea trials in the Baltic Sea

    Russia’s Navy has reinforced the combat potential of its Black Sea Fleet by newest diesel-electric Varshavyanka submarines (project 636.6). Four sub of this type are already on duty in the Black Sea and two more are about to join in November 2016. At the moment they are undergoing trials in the Gulf of Finland and in the Baltic Sea. The submarines are reputed to be one of the quietest in their class. Identifying a Varshavyanka submarine in the submerged position is a daunting task. NATO’s military unofficially refers to project 636.6 submarines as “black holes” in the ocean.

    Unique bird’s eye view images of the submarines taken from a quadrocopter during the launch and sea trials in the Baltic Sea, as well as the highlights of their combat capabilities in this special feature by TASS.


    Behind the Name


    The name of the whole submarine family – Varshavyanka – dates back to the 1970s, when there were plans for providing large batches of project 877EKM submarines - an export configuration of Paltus (Halibut) submarines of Project 877 to the Warsaw Treaty Organization member-countries. Such submarines are still in service in India, China, Vietnam, Algeria and other countries.

    Project 636 belongs with the third generation of diesel-electric submarines. They were developed at the Rubin design bureau, which used Paltus subs as the basis. Their electronic systems were upgraded and combat effectiveness enhanced. Also, they possess the newest radio-electronic and hydroacoustics systems.

    Next to the nuclear-powered Borei submarine the Varshavyanka looks small: the displacement of each strategic sub of project 955 is six times that of one Varshavyanka. Each Borei is two and a half Varshavyankas in length. Project 636 is about 74 meters long and ten meters wide, with displacement not exceeding 4,000 tonnes. The pressure hull’s design depth is 240 meters and maximum operating depth, 300 meters.

    The Varshavyanka submarine has two 1,500-horsepower diesel generators, one propulsion electric motor and one economy electric motor. Also, the submarine has two stand-by diesel engines and two sets of electric batteries. One seven-blade propeller ensures the submarine’s maximum speed of 17 knots (more than 30 kilometers per hour) on the surface and up to 20 knots in the submerged position.

    Main Weapon

    Kalibr cruise missiles are Project 636.6’s main weapon. In the nose section the Varshavyanka has six 533-mm torpedo tubes. The standard set of ammunition consists of 18 torpedoes or 24 mines and Kalibr-PL cruise missiles, capable of effectively hitting targets about 2,000 away.

    According to the Russian Defense Ministry, missiles of that type boast low observability. Capable of following terrain features at extra-low altitudes, the cruise missiles are hard to identify for any air defense. Their accuracy, regardless of the range of flight, is just several meters. Each Kalibr missile is armed with 500-kilogram warhead. The complex incorporates five different missiles based on the anti-ship cruise missile 3M54E Granat. Its export version (Club) can carry different types of payloads to hit targets within a range of up to 300 kilometers.

    Project 636’s target detection range/stealth ratio is optimal. A Varshavyanka sub is capable of identifying enemy ships and other targets at the maximum distance, approaching and monitoring them without being exposed and, if need be, of putting its powerful weaponry to use.

    The Varshavyanka’s main task is to protect naval bases and sea routes and attack enemy submarines and surface ships. Also, it can perform reconnaissance and patrol missions on high seas and hit coastal infrastructures by cruise missiles.


    More Subs in the Family

    St. Petersburg’s Admiralty Shipyards has built a family of six submarines for the Black Sea Fleet. All bear the names of Russian cities that enjoy the City of Military Glory title.

    The first four submarines were named after southern Russian cities: Novorossiysk, Rostov-on-Don, Stary Oskol and Krasnodar. The fifth (Veliki Novgorod) and sixth (Kolpino) were named after an ancient Russian city in the country’s northwest and a suburbs of St. Petersburg.

    At the Army-2016 forum near Moscow in early September 2016 a contract was signed for another batch of six submarines to be built for the Pacific Fleet in 2019-2021.

    In the Pacific, the Varshavyanka submarines will add muscle to the Russian Navy’s combat potential in the Far East. They will be able to ply international waters of the South China Sea and the Sea of Japan, “quietly” monitoring the ongoing developments in the region.


    Baptism by fire

    Varshavyanka submarines displayed their combat capabilities in real action in December 2015 during Russia’s military operation in Syria. The Rostov-on-Don submarine (B-237) fired a round of Kalibr-PL cruise missiles at facilities of the Islamic State (terrorist organization outlawed in Russia) in Syria’s Raqqa province.

    It was the Russian submarine fleet’s first-ever missile attack against a real enemy.


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:52 am

    MOSCOW, October 21. /TASS/. Russia’s Black Sea Fleet will get its fifth and sixth submarine of project 636.3 (Varshavyanka) - The Veliki Novgorod and The Kolpino - on October 25 and November 25 respectively, the CEO of the Admiralty Shipyards, Aleksandr Buzakov, said on Friday.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:07 pm

    Fifth Varshavyanka submarine joins Russia’s Navy

    By the end of this year the Russian Navy will have the sixth submarine in the series, The Kolpino


    ST. PETERSBURG, October 26. /TASS/. The fifth non-nuclear submarine of project 636.3, The Veliki Novgorod, has joined the Russian Navy, a TASS correspondent reports from the flag-hoisting ceremony at the Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg, attended by the Russian Navy’s Deputy commander, Vice-Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov and the shipyards’ CEO Alexander Buzakov.

    "The Veliki Novgorod submarine has been through all government certification tests. All of the previous submarines in that series built for the Black Sea Fleet have confirmed the expected parameters, too," Buzakov said.

    The Veliki Novgorod is the fifth in the group of six submarines of project 636.3 (Varshavyanka) built for the Black Sea Fleet. The first two - The Novorossiysk and The Rostov-on-Don were delivered in 2014, and another two, The Stary Oskol and The Krasnodar, in 2015. By the end of this year the Russian Navy will have the sixth submarine in the series, The Kolpino. The flag-hoisting ceremony is due November 25.

    Another six Varshavyanka subs will be built at the Admiralty shipyards for the Pacific Fleet. The contract was signed at the Army-2016 forum near Moscow. The last submarine in the second group is to be delivered in 2021.


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:21 pm

    Submarine "Veliky Novgorod" transferred to the Russian Navy





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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:57 pm

    Sixth Varshavyanka class diesel submarine joins Russian Navy

    The batch of six submarines for the Black Sea Fleet began to be built in 2010. The work on another such series meant for the Pacific Fleet will commence in 2017. The estimated completion date is 2021.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:55 pm

    Thats super fast finishing off.
    6yrs for 6 subs and they are planning for 4yrs for the 6 to the Pacific fleet Shocked

    How many have actually made it to Black Sea? Only the first 3 right?
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  kvs on Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:39 pm

    hoom wrote:Thats super fast finishing off.
    6yrs for 6 subs and they are planning for 4yrs for the 6 to the Pacific fleet Shocked

    How many have actually made it to Black Sea? Only the first 3 right?

    The shipyard has managed to streamline its construction schedule. So the same amount in
    33% less time is perfectly reasonable. Another detail is that financing and supply chain management
    is likely much better today than it was in 2010.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:12 am


    I see no reason to stop with 6 for Pacific. These subs are still top of the line. One more batch for Baltic later on would be in order. And why not some extra for all fleets.

    Does Caspian fleet need subs?
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  kvs on Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:27 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    I see no reason to stop with 6 for Pacific. These subs are still top of the line. One more batch for Baltic later on would be in order. And why not some extra for all fleets.

    Does Caspian fleet need subs?

    Not really since Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan are not going to be naval threats to Russia any time soon.
    Maybe if a colour revolution succeeds in Iran...
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Militarov on Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:38 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    I see no reason to stop with 6 for Pacific. These subs are still top of the line. One more batch for Baltic later on would be in order. And why not some extra for all fleets.

    Does Caspian fleet need subs?

    I doubt they will order more after this Pacific batch, even this is stretching it abit as subs do not have AIP, but they badly need new diesels for Pacific and neither Lada or Amur are ready. Hopefully after this batch Amur will be ready.

    I dont think so, USSR never operated subs in Caspian sea at least not in post WW2 period (there were some subs deployed there before and during WW1 and between World Wars), nor did anyone that i remember. Iran has 1 light Fateh sub in Caspian tho, planning another one.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Benya on Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:19 pm

    Russia’s Project 877 SSK Komsomolsk-on-Amur completes builders sea trials


    The upgraded Project 877 B-187 diesel-electric submarine Komsomolsk-on-Amur has completed builders sea trials, the Amur Shipyard’s press office said. "On December 10, the submarine Komsomolsk-on-Amur arrived at the Amur Shipyard’s acceptance base in Bolshoi Kamen [in Russia’s Far East] after its builders sea trials," the press office said


    The Project 877 B-187 diesel-electric submarine Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Picture: korabli.eu

    "The tasks specified in the test program have been accomplished thanks to the professionalism and efficient work of the test team and the submarine’s crew," the press office added.

    The Project 877 B-187 diesel-electric submarine Komsomolsk-on-Amur was built by the Amur Shipyard. It joined the Russian Navy in 1991.

    The Project 877 B-187 diesel-electric submarine is designed to fight the enemy’s submarines and ships, defend naval bases and coastal and sea facilities and conduct reconnaissance and patrolling activities.

    The submarine has a displacement of more than 3,000 tons, a length of 72.6 meters, a submerged speed of 17 knots and a depth of submersion of 300 meters. The submarine’s cruising capacity is 45 days and its crew totals 57.
    The Project 877 submarine is armed with six 533mm torpedo tubes.

    Source: Arrow http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2016/december-2016-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/4699-russia-s-project-877-ssk-komsomolsk-on-amur-completes-builders-sea-trials.html
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:39 am

    Must have had a Refit/modernisation?
    English Wiki lists it as in reserve from 2007.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:02 pm


    First two Kilo subs for Pacific Fleet will be called Mozhaysk and Volkhov (Можайск, Волхов)

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:55 am

    Still no sign of the rest of the 6 moving to Black Sea dunno
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:02 am

    hoom wrote:Still no sign of the rest of the 6 moving to Black Sea dunno

    For some reason(s), the remaining 3 Kilos and the Admiral Essen Frigate are not being transferred to the Black Sea fleet and are being kept in the Baltic.
    Furthermore, the 2 Buyan class corvettes (Zeleony Dol and Serpukhov) were transferred from the Black Sea to the Baltic.

    One can only speculate why the MoD wants to keep the Baltic Fleet stronger...
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  franco on Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:21 am

    TheArmenian wrote:
    hoom wrote:Still no sign of the rest of the 6 moving to Black Sea dunno

    For some reason(s), the remaining 3 Kilos and the Admiral Essen Frigate are not being transferred to the Black Sea fleet and are being kept in the Baltic.
    Furthermore, the 2 Buyan class corvettes (Zeleony Dol and Serpukhov) were transferred from the Black Sea to the Baltic.

    One can only speculate why the MoD wants to keep the Baltic Fleet stronger...

    With those ships the only purpose would be for the Kalibers missile system and the fact that this is NATO country... makes one worry there is something afoot that is most ominous. Remember the Islander has also been moved to Kalinigrad. Sure looks like they are countering some expected provocation in that area.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Isos on Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:44 pm

    franco wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:
    hoom wrote:Still no sign of the rest of the 6 moving to Black Sea dunno

    For some reason(s), the remaining 3 Kilos and the Admiral Essen Frigate are not being transferred to the Black Sea fleet and are being kept in the Baltic.
    Furthermore, the 2 Buyan class corvettes (Zeleony Dol and Serpukhov) were transferred from the Black Sea to the Baltic.

    One can only speculate why the MoD wants to keep the Baltic Fleet stronger...

    With those ships the only purpose would be for the Kalibers missile system and the fact that this is NATO country... makes one worry there is something afoot that is most ominous. Remember the Islander has also been moved to Kalinigrad. Sure looks like they are countering some expected provocation in that area.

    Now that NATO/turkish relations are bad, black sea fleet is safer. So they can keep more ships for the baltic were there are more NATO activities.

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