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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:34 am

    Silent Runner: Russian Kilo Class Sub is Back in Action

    Vladikavkaz, a Kilo-class diesel submarine first commissioned by the Russian Navy in 1990, will return to service on Wednesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The Russian Navy will accept its advanced diesel submarine into service a month ahead of schedule after extensive overhauls, a Navy spokesman said Tuesday.

    "The Navy will accept the repaired and upgraded Project 877 diesel-electric submarine Vladikavkaz a month ahead of schedule," Capt. 1st Rank Igor Dygalo told reporters.

    Dygalo said the Vladikavkaz, a Kilo-class diesel submarine first commissioned by the Russian Navy in 1990, will return to service on Wednesday having had its military and performance characteristics significantly improved.

    He cited Navy Deputy Commander Rear Adm. Viktor Bursuk as saying the overhaul included hull, equipment and other system repairs, as well as upgrades to communications, navigation, traffic control, naval combat data, propulsion control and other systems.

    Vladikavkaz passed all the speed, handling, noise and many other parameters designated by the Navy during tests in early August 2015, the Navy spokesman added.

    The ceremony marking the signing of the submarine’s handover is slated to take place at the Zvezdochka shipyard in north Russia in the presence of the Main Command of the Navy.

    Kilo-class submarines, sometimes dubbed "Black Holes" for their ability to "disappear," are thought to be one of the quietest diesel-electric submarine classes in the world.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150922/1027355883.html#ixzz3mVeEbiQ3


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:44 pm

    More photos of the Novorossiysk Passing through the Bosphorus. Five photos including a couple of head-on shots.

    http://turkishnavy.net/2015/09/17/russian-submarine-novorossiysk-passed-through-bosphorus/

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:10 pm

    Russian Sub Rostov-on-Don Passes Verification Tests and Heads to Black Sea

    Capt. 1st Rank Vyacheslav Trukhachev said that Russia's submarine Rostov-on-Don has completed verification tests.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russia's submarine Rostov-on-Don has completed verification tests, and is on the way to join the Black Sea Fleet, a spokesman for the fleet, Capt. 1st Rank Vyacheslav Trukhachev, said Friday.

    The submarine is expected to arrive to its permanent location in early December, according to Trukhachev.

    The Rostov-on Don is a third generation Varshavyanka-class submarine designed to modernize Russian Black Sea Fleet submarine capacity.

    In September, Russia's Black Sea Fleet submarine Novorossiysk, the first new Russian Black Sea Fleet submarine in post-Soviet history, arrived at its permanent location at the Novorossiysk Naval Base.

    Earlier on Friday, Russian submarine Stary Oskol arrived at the main naval base of the Kola Flotilla of the Northern Fleet for further testing. As soon as it successfully undergoes a comprehensive military and technical capacity verification procedure, it will leave to join the Black Sea Fleet.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151016/1028635893/Russia-Submarine-Tests.html#ixzz3oq1V2gLb


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Rmf on Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:07 pm

    why dont they transfer subs trough internal russian waterways -using north canal-volga-don-azov.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  artjomh on Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:12 pm

    Rmf wrote:why dont they transfer subs trough internal russian waterways -using north canal-volga-don-azov.

    Because it can sail under its own power in open seas, while on river-canal system it will require a floating dock to transport it.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:49 pm

    Renovated "Alrosa" will return to the Black Sea Fleet at the end of the year


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Militarov on Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:58 pm


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  kvs on Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:21 am

    Militarov wrote:

    Very informative documentary. In particular, the USSR had the quietest submarine (I am referring not just to nuclear) before
    the vaunted Toshiba NC machines were sold to it. The first boat went on a 10 month mission in 1984 and got the nickname
    "black hole" from NATO since it couldn't track it. One would expect the experience gained in quieting these boats would have
    been applied to Soviet nuclear submarines. But naturally NATO blowhards would like to peddle their racist BS about Russians
    needing western "ubber tech" to achieve any progress.

    NATO should be careful. The story of arrogant invaders trying to dominate Russia has been very sad.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:56 pm

    Russian Navy New Submarine Krasnodar to Enter Service Thursday

    The Krasnodar, a new diesel-electric submarine, will be put into service of the Russian Navy on Thursday, Russia’s Defense Ministry said in a statement on Monday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The Krasnodar, a new diesel-electric submarine, will be put into service of the Russian Navy on Thursday, Russia’s Defense Ministry said in a statement on Monday.

    According to the statement, a flag raising ceremony for the warship will be held in Saint Petersburg.

    The Krasnodar is the fourth of six 636.3 Project submarines, all expected to be in service by the end of 2016. They feature advanced stealth technology, extended combat range and the ability to strike land, surface and underwater targets.

    The first, the Novorossiysk, has already joined the Black Sea Fleet. The second and third ships, the Rostov-on-Don and the Stary Oskol, will join the fleet after undergoing armament trials with the Northern Fleet.

    Russia is currently performing a $325-billion rearmament program to achieve a 70-percent modernization of its military by 2020.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151102/1029482402/submarine-krasnodar-navy.html#ixzz3qLl6MvZC


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:03 pm

    Looks like there could be a problem, this is from last Thursday. A lot more at the link.

    Very early this morning, St. Petersburg blogger Ilya Kurganov (citing unnamed "navy officials") reported that Kilo-class submarine "Rostov-na-Donu" had arrived in Kronshtadt for unscheduled repairs of its electrical plant. According to the blogger:

       "...it began its scheduled transfer to its home port of Novorossiysk on October 16, 2015, but within literally a few days it was necessary to call for a rescue tug, with which it headed to a location where unscheduled repairs will be performed by technicians from Admiralty Shipyards, where the submarine was built."

    Interfax, citing an unknown source in the shipbuilding industry, confirmed that the submarine is in the Baltic Sea, but the source would only say that "it was forced to return to the Baltic for technical reasons." Finally, Admiralty Shipyards denied that any Russian Navy officials had contacted the shipyard to provide any technical assistance to the submarine.


    http://7fbtk.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/why-did-rostov-na-donu-return-to-baltic.html

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:55 pm

    Diesel-electric submarine "Krasnodar" delivered to Russian Navy

    This is the fourth submarine of 636.3 in the series, it was launched in April. The ship lifted the naval flag.

    PETERSBURG, November 5 - RIA Novosti. Diesel-electric submarine of Project 636.3 "Krasnodar" passed on Thursday in St. Petersburg, to Russian Navy, the correspondent of RIA Novosti.

    "This ship - the fourth submarine in a series of upgrade project. The three ships have already completed the test and work out combat training tasks. The ship is the result of the work of designers, shipbuilders, and we have great pleasure in raising the naval ensign," - he said at the ceremony of raising Flag head of the combat training of the Navy Minister Viktor Kochemazov.

    He recalled that the submarines of this series will be based in Novorossiysk. "We look forward to when the ship joins the ranks of the Fourth Brigade," - he said.

    As the general director of JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" Alexander Buzakov, "today we can say that the construction of a series of submarines is on time, and this contract gives up early."

    Submarine "Krasnodar" Project 636.3 - the fourth in the series, built at the JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" for the Russian Navy, was launched in April 2015.

    Parent submarine "Novorossiysk" was handed over to the Russian Navy in August 2014, the second submarine "Rostov-on-Don" - the end of December 2014, the third submarine "Stary Oskol" - in July 2015. Until 2016, the plans of the High Command of the Navy, to be built six submarines of Project 636.3. All of them will be part of the submarine forces of the Black Sea Fleet.

    636.3 submarine project "Varshavyanka" refers to the third generation, has a displacement of 3.95 million tons, submerged speed - 20 knots, dive depth of 300 meters, the crew of 52 people. Submarines 636 modified the project have a higher (compared to previous projects) combat effectiveness. Their armed with torpedoes caliber of 533 millimeters (six units), Mines, percussive missile complex "Caliber". They can detect the target at a distance of three to four times higher than that on which they can detect the enemy. During his stealth boat the project received NATO name "black hole".

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151105/1314097793.html&usg=ALkJrhigMjgv3vV0xSjfBpYrEnzOaOBaGg


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:58 pm

    Navy: 2nd Varshavyanka-class submarine will arrive on Black Sea Fleet at the end of November


    Final Varshavyanka-class submarines "Kolpino" and "Veliky Novgorod" will be launched in spring


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    Post  calripson on Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:55 am

    How many Kalibr missiles can the Varshavyanka class carry ?

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  artjomh on Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:16 am

    calripson wrote:How many Kalibr missiles can the Varshavyanka class carry ?

    18

    But usually only carries around 4, with the rest being torpedoes.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Isos on Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:51 pm

    What is the range of a kilo class sub ? I know it's not the same if it sails sumerged or surfaced but in case of war it's dangerous to be surfaced while searching for the enemy.

    On wiki they said it's about 300 km submerged which is very small considering that early soviet subs were able to sail 20 000 km (see foxtrot on English wiki, I can't post the link I'm new)

    why don't don't they build it bigger with higher fuel/battery capacity to allow them to attack with the SNA's in ocean far from land bases ?

    For the norther fleet it would be better as they are far from England and North sea and they don't have enough SNA's to patrol in the atlantic, protect north pole from nato's SSBN, protect their SSBN.

    How would be the kilo used in a war ?

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:14 pm

    Isos wrote:What is the range of a kilo class sub ? I know it's not the same if it sails sumerged or surfaced but in case of war it's dangerous to be surfaced while searching for the enemy.

    On wiki they said it's about 300 km submerged which is very small considering that early soviet subs were able to sail 20 000 km (see foxtrot on English wiki, I can't post the link I'm new)

    why don't don't they build it bigger with higher fuel/battery capacity to allow them to attack with the SNA's in ocean far from land bases ?

    For the norther fleet it would be better as they are far from England and North sea and they don't have enough SNA's to patrol in the atlantic, protect north pole from nato's SSBN, protect their SSBN.

    How would be the kilo used in a war ?

    With snorkel: 6,880 miles at 7 knots
    Submerged: 400 miles at 3 knots

    I think their role isnt for big oceans, but for coastal defense roles

    http://russianships.info/eng/submarines/project_877.htm


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  zg18 on Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:55 pm

    Two Project 677 U/C , Admiralty shipyards


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Militarov on Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:29 pm









    Type 877EKM model at Armiya-2015.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Militarov on Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:20 pm

    Kalibr-capable Kilo sub "Novorossiysk" completed 50-day repair cycle, returned to normal pier, Nov. 26.


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Austin on Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:21 pm

    Should give a good idea what upgraded Kilo is all about , Even though it belongs to IN , Watch this video please


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Isos on Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:00 pm

    Austin wrote:Should give a good idea what upgraded Kilo is all about , Even though it belongs to IN , Watch this video please


    At 1 min 14s, It was just one torpedo ?

    If this is the case, it's pretty impressive Shocked

    There was a study from chinese where they said you need like 5 torpedos or 6 (not the real numbers, can't remember exactly) anti ship missiles to sunk an aircraft carrier. When I saw videos of torpedo's hit I belive 2 is really enough ...

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    Post  Militarov on Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:07 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Austin wrote:Should give a good idea what upgraded Kilo is all about , Even though it belongs to IN , Watch this video please


    At 1 min 14s, It was just one torpedo ?

    If this is the case, it's pretty impressive Shocked

    There was a study from chinese where they said you need like 5 torpedos or 6 (not the real numbers, can't remember exactly) anti ship missiles to sunk an aircraft carrier. When I saw videos of torpedo's hit I belive 2 is really enough ...

    Carriers have thousand of compartments that can be sealed, water draining pumps and over all they are huge. Its very hard to actually sink one, to damage, take it out of service etc sure, but to sink it you would need more than 1-2 torpedos. There is a reason why there exist nuclear tipped torpedos and anti-ship missiles.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  ult on Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:02 pm

    It was confirmed by the Director General of the Admiralteyskie Verfi that all 6 torpedo tubes can launch Kalibr cruise missiles.

    https://youtu.be/zCNU3XImTOs?t=23m

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:58 pm

    How many Kalibrs an Imp Kilo actually carries?


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  ult on Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:14 pm

    George1 wrote:How many Kalibrs an Imp Kilo actually carries?

    It can carry 18 torpedoes/cruise missiles. So it depends. I guess it would need at least a couple of torpedoes for self-defense.

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