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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  archangelski on Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:08 am

    Cheetah wrote:
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    Surely my eyes are playing tricks, but, does the tail look like it is slopped down at some ridiculous angle in this shot. Looks as if it's pointed at that aircraft nose.

    The horizontal stabilizer doesn't seem much more inclined than what has already been seen on other Il-76.
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  robognus on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:43 pm

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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Stealthflanker on Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:22 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Part of the equipment

    The A-100 as a whole repeats the appearance of the A-50 AWACS aircraft, which has a radar installed in the rotating fairing over the fuselage. The radar operates in the S-band (wavelength 7.5-15 cm), has an electronic scanning in height and mechanical - along the horizon. The radar makes 12 revolutions per minute, that is, twice as fast as the A-50 Shmel radar. The efficiency of detection of flying targets is also improved. All other systems are also new, among them the navigation and flight control system PNK-PM.

    On the fuselage A-100 installed additional antennas, especially noticeable round fairing in the nose, which is supposedly located antenna passive accompaniment. A similar antenna is also available at the rear of the fuselage. Another antenna is located on the side of the fuselage in the area of ​​the fairing of the chassis. Presumably, this is an element of the airborne complex of defense. Like the A-50, the A-100 has a satellite communication antenna in the upper part of the fuselage.
    The characteristics of the A-100 can be estimated from its export version A-100E. Its radar is capable of escorting up to 300 targets at a distance of 650 km (for example, a heavy bomber at a high altitude) or 215 km (an EPR target of the order of 1 km.) And control 30 fighters. The aircraft can be in the air up to six hours at a distance of 1000 km from its base. A-100 should replace the existing ARL-50 and A-50U aircraft. Russia has 17 A-50 aircraft based in Ivanovo, 250 km from Moscow.

    A-50 and A-50U

    By 2017, four A-50s were upgraded to version A-50U with the installation of the Shmel-M system. In comparison with the original version, "Shmel-M" is equipped with a new digital data processing system, which replaced the analog system of the previous modification. This reduced mass and increased reliability. According to some sources, the modernized aircraft can detect up to 150 targets at distances up to 600 km, compared to 45 targets for the A-50. The "Bumblebee" radar with mechanical scanning remained unchanged. The transfer of data was improved by installing LCD monitors instead of cathode ray tubes. Communication and navigation facilities have also been replaced. Unlike the base A-50, the A-50U is equipped with not only a kitchen and restrooms, but also a rest room for the crew. The old D-30KP-2 engines remained on the plane. The only external difference between the two modifications is the small planes in the fairing area of ​​the main landing gear rails. At A-50 they served to protect the radar from reflected signals from the Earth.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2607102.html


    Oh so the A-100 Radar only scans in elevation. Similar as the E-3 Sentry. I wonder why they not adopt full 3D scanning. Thus allow optimized sector scan mode like E-2D Hawkeye.
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:32 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:Oh so the A-100 Radar only scans in elevation.  Similar as the E-3 Sentry.  I wonder why they not adopt full 3D scanning. Thus allow optimized sector scan mode like E-2D Hawkeye.

    Do you mean scan electronically 360deg ?



    A-100 provides control drones

    The developers of radar surveillance aircraft A-100, which recently made its first flight, were given the task to manage unmanned aircraft, reports Interfax Post newspaper "Red Star".

    The new multifunctional aviation complex has the ability to not only receive and process information more targets at long range. It has been tasked to provide control of the developers UAV from board A-100

    It is also reported that the new complex should not only work on air and ground targets, but also ensure the implementation of more complex tasks in the field of air and space defense. Last Saturday, the A-100 made its maiden flight. It took off from the airfield of Taganrog Aviation Scientific-Technical Complex. GM Beriev.


    Aircraft equipment can "quickly build radar picture at a given operating direction, detect and track aircraft and other objects, as well as participate in the management of fighter and attack aircraft when hovering on air, land and sea targets."


    The new complex of A-100 is equipped with a new generation system made based on the most advanced technologies and components. "This applies to the means of obtaining information, and the computer system for its processing, as well as the automated workplaces of operators", - stated in the material.

    All radio equipment created concern Vega (included Rostec). The work on the project involved extensive co-operation of the domestic industry enterprises with the support of the leading scientific centers of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

    Also it carried planned upgrading electronic systems which are already in the armament VKS Russia, in particular, A-50 upgrade to A-50U.

    https://topwar.ru/130025-rossiyskiy-a-100-obespechit-upravlenie-bespilotnikami.html
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Stealthflanker on Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:56 am

    Cyberspec wrote:

    Do you mean scan electronically 360deg ?


    Scan electronically in both azimuth and elevation. The same manner as A-50EI.
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Ives on Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:17 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    Part of the equipment

    The A-100 as a whole repeats the appearance of the A-50 AWACS aircraft, which has a radar installed in the rotating fairing over the fuselage. The radar operates in the S-band (wavelength 7.5-15 cm), has an electronic scanning in height and mechanical - along the horizon. The radar makes 12 revolutions per minute, that is, twice as fast as the A-50 Shmel radar. The efficiency of detection of flying targets is also improved. All other systems are also new, among them the navigation and flight control system PNK-PM.

    On the fuselage A-100 installed additional antennas, especially noticeable round fairing in the nose, which is supposedly located antenna passive accompaniment. A similar antenna is also available at the rear of the fuselage. Another antenna is located on the side of the fuselage in the area of ​​the fairing of the chassis. Presumably, this is an element of the airborne complex of defense. Like the A-50, the A-100 has a satellite communication antenna in the upper part of the fuselage.
    The characteristics of the A-100 can be estimated from its export version A-100E. Its radar is capable of escorting up to 300 targets at a distance of 650 km (for example, a heavy bomber at a high altitude) or 215 km (an EPR target of the order of 1 km.) And control 30 fighters. The aircraft can be in the air up to six hours at a distance of 1000 km from its base. A-100 should replace the existing ARL-50 and A-50U aircraft. Russia has 17 A-50 aircraft based in Ivanovo, 250 km from Moscow.

    A-50 and A-50U

    By 2017, four A-50s were upgraded to version A-50U with the installation of the Shmel-M system. In comparison with the original version, "Shmel-M" is equipped with a new digital data processing system, which replaced the analog system of the previous modification. This reduced mass and increased reliability. According to some sources, the modernized aircraft can detect up to 150 targets at distances up to 600 km, compared to 45 targets for the A-50. The "Bumblebee" radar with mechanical scanning remained unchanged. The transfer of data was improved by installing LCD monitors instead of cathode ray tubes. Communication and navigation facilities have also been replaced. Unlike the base A-50, the A-50U is equipped with not only a kitchen and restrooms, but also a rest room for the crew. The old D-30KP-2 engines remained on the plane. The only external difference between the two modifications is the small planes in the fairing area of ​​the main landing gear rails. At A-50 they served to protect the radar from reflected signals from the Earth.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2607102.html


    Oh so the A-100 Radar only scans in elevation.  Similar as the E-3 Sentry.  I wonder why they not adopt full 3D scanning. Thus allow optimized sector scan mode like E-2D Hawkeye.

    Russian MoD said, that A-100 is gonna be superior to NATO AWACS,actually Sentry already has a detection range of 650km something, so I suppose A-100 will have detection range of around 700-750km.
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Isos on Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:26 pm


    Russian MoD said, that A-100 is gonna be superior to NATO AWACS,actually Sentry already has a detection range of 650km something, so I suppose A-100 will have detection range of around 700-750km.

    That statement has 0 value. And detection range is not the only parametre for AWACS specially that now with stealth technology those max range are useless numbers.
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Ives on Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:29 pm

    Isos wrote:

    Russian MoD said, that A-100 is gonna be superior to NATO AWACS,actually Sentry already has a detection range of 650km something, so I suppose A-100 will have detection range of around 700-750km.

    That statement has 0 value. And detection range is not the only parametre for AWACS specially that now with stealth technology those max range are useless numbers.

    Why 0 ? What is the point to make the same toy as your potential enemy? Especially considering that potential enemy has bigger numbers you definetely needs to have better quality.

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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Ives on Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:18 pm

    Plus, Sentry is sorta old af, and new system should definetely show better results.

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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Isos on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:30 pm

    Ives wrote:
    Isos wrote:

    Russian MoD said, that A-100 is gonna be superior to NATO AWACS,actually Sentry already has a detection range of 650km something, so I suppose A-100 will have detection range of around 700-750km.

    That statement has 0 value. And detection range is not the only parametre for AWACS specially that now with stealth technology those max range are useless numbers.

    Why 0 ? What is the point to make the same toy as your potential enemy? Especially considering that potential enemy has bigger numbers you definetely needs to have better quality.

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    They always say that. US upgrade constantly their AWACS fleet and they worked much more on them than Russian. Indians use israeli radars on their A-50...

    I'm not saying they are bad but when I hear superior to everything it is like the comments we found from pro-US for their stuff. It is probably on pair with them.
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:51 am

    Going by what's been said so far, it's going to be more multifunctional compared to existing AWACS's
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:47 pm

    Yes, "a multi-purpose command and control, electronic warfare, and intelligence gathering platform": hedrive.com/the-war-zone/16281/bristling-with-antennas-russias-a-100-is-likely-more-than-just-a-new-radar-plane

    I wonder what will they do with A-50M/U airframes later?
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Ives on Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:26 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Yes, "a multi-purpose command and control, electronic warfare, and intelligence gathering platform": hedrive.com/the-war-zone/16281/bristling-with-antennas-russias-a-100-is-likely-more-than-just-a-new-radar-plane

    I wonder what will they do with A-50M/U airframes later?

    More likely sell to India or any other sorry-country.
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:45 am

    Ives wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:Yes, "a multi-purpose command and control, electronic warfare, and intelligence gathering platform": hedrive.com/the-war-zone/16281/bristling-with-antennas-russias-a-100-is-likely-more-than-just-a-new-radar-plane

    I wonder what will they do with A-50M/U airframes later?

    More likely sell to India or any other sorry-country.

    I doubt it...they wouldn't be upgrading them if they were for sale. They'll probably serve for a long time to come
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  Isos on Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:08 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Ives wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:Yes, "a multi-purpose command and control, electronic warfare, and intelligence gathering platform": hedrive.com/the-war-zone/16281/bristling-with-antennas-russias-a-100-is-likely-more-than-just-a-new-radar-plane

    I wonder what will they do with A-50M/U airframes later?

    More likely sell to India or any other sorry-country.

    I doubt it...they wouldn't be upgrading them if they were for sale. They'll probably serve for a long time to come

    I hope so for them because they receiced A-50U months ago ...
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    Re: AWACS-Airborne Command Posts of RuAF

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:40 pm

    Do you mean scan electronically 360deg ?

    It said it scanned 12 times a minute horizontally.... vertical scan is electronic.

    You don't need AESA to just scan a sector.... you just have the signal on in the sectors you want to scan and off in the sectors you don't.


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