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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:18 pm

    First woman in space says Russians will be first on Mars

    The first female cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova told a forum she would have been ready to go to the Red Planet herself, if it was not for her age

    YAROSLAVL, November 21. /TASS/. The first female cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova said on Monday she believed Russians would be the first to land on Mars and she would have been ready to go to the Red Planet herself, if it was not for her age.

    Tereshkova made this statement at the All-Russian gifted children forum titled: "Future Intellectual Leaders of Russia."

    "I believe that we’ll be the first on Mars after all. Look, they are using sanctions against us but Americans fly aboard our space vehicles with the help of our carrier rockets and are not going to create their own spaceships," Tereshkova said.

    The world’s first female cosmonaut said she had long dealt with the theme of Mars and "had studied this planet specially."

    "It is regrettable that years are passing. Otherwise, I would have not ceded the place [in the spacecraft]," the Soviet female cosmonaut said in reply to a question about whether she would fly to Mars.

    The audience greeted her with a storm of applause.


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  franco on Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:49 pm

    Some updates from the Space Forces Command;

    - major upgrades to OKNA and Krona space surveillance systems. The range of OKNA has been increased to 50,000 kms from 40,000.
    - new Glonass K satellites to have a life of 10 years, 2.5 x the old ones.
    - Voronezh installations should be completed and operational by the end of 2019. Four are presently on combat duty, 3 others are coming on duty and the last two are under construction.
    - The space monitoring locations in Crimea, Altai, Buryatia and the Far East are to receive major upgrades.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  kvs on Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:00 am

    franco wrote:Some updates from the Space Forces Command;

    - new Glonass K satellites to have a life of 10 years, 2.5 x the old ones.

    They must have finally abandoned the pressurized vessel format for their satellites. For some bizarre reason
    the USSR did not develop vacuum-exposed satellites and chose to package the electronics in a pressurized air
    box. The short life was due to this box leaking out its air and not the longevity of the electronics and other
    components.

    Of course all instruments exposed to the vacuum must be designed and tested in vacuum chambers on Earth.
    But this is not a technology Russia cannot handle.

    OK... just found a link that confirms my speculation:

    http://spaceflight101.com/spacecraft/glonass-k1/
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    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:32 pm

    Air defense unit in Siberia apparently saw two falling fragments of Progress spacecraft

    A cargo space vehicle of the Progress serie has been lost at an altitude of 190 kilometers


    YEKATERINBURG, December 2. /TASS/. An air defense unit of Russia’s Central Military District stationed in West Siberia says that on Thursday evening it identified two objects within its area of responsibility that may turn out to be fragments of the Progress MS-04 cargo spacecraft, Central Military District spokesman, Yaroslav Roshchupkin, has told TASS.

    "Radio-technical means of the Central Military District’s air defense unit on December 1 identified two flying objects on radar screens at 17:56 and 17:57 Moscow time. Specialists studied their flight paths to arrive at the conclusion with nearly 100% certainty that the objects were fragments of the Progress spacecraft," Roshchupkin said.

    Military personnel are not involved in search operations, the Central Military District said.

    A cargo space vehicle of the Progress series, launched from the Baikonur space site in Kazakhstan at 17:51 Moscow time on Thursday was lost at an altitude of 190 kilometers over the Tyva region. Most of its fragments burned down in the atmosphere.

    According to some reports several fragments may have reached the Earth’s surface in a sparsely populated area 60-80 kilometers west of the city of Kyzyl. Search groups of the Emergencies Ministry have inspected territories around four communities in the Ulug-Khem, Chaa-Khol and Sut-Khol districts of Tyva to find nothing.


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    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:58 pm

    Russian astronomers fail to detect meteorite’s crash in Siberia

    The meteorite went undetected as there are not enough astronomical observatories in Siberia

    NOVOSIBIRSK, December 7. /TASS/. The meteor seen on Tuesday night in the city of Sayanogorsk, in Russia’s Siberian Republic of Khakassia, went undetected by ground telescopes as there are not enough astronomical observatories in Siberia, the Novosibirsk Planetarium’s Director, Sergei Maslikov, told TASS on Wednesday.

    "No one carries out astronomic research in that area, unfortunately. Krasnoyarsk is the closest city but there is neither a planetarium, nor an observatory there," he said.

    Maslikov elaborated that the observatories closest to Khakassia were located in Novosibirsk and Irkutsk. "We could not see it here. In Irkutsk, the skies are constantly observed but Irkutsk is also rather far. I don’t think Irkutsk’s residents could see the meteor since it was smaller than the one that had crashed in the Chelyabinsk region, so it could have been seen in a limited area," Maslikov added.

    A source in the Astronomical Observatory of the Irkutsk State University confirmed to TASS that they had not detected any celestial bodies.

    The director of the Novosibirsk planetarium also said that comets were constantly observed from space as these observations were of great interest to astronomers. "We should now what celestial bodies come down from space and in what numbers. We know the approximate numbers but not specific figures," Maslikov noted.

    According to him, ‘shooting stars’ come down from space almost every day but they usually fall away from human settlements, into the oceans or deep forests.

    As the Sayanogorsk city website reported on December 6, a falling star considered to be an meteorite landed in the region of Khakassia, presumably in the Babik valley near Sayanogorsk.

    The meteorite that hit the ground in Khakassia was not detected by the multichannel monitoring telescope (MMT) aimed at searching for quick-changing and fast-moving space objects, researcher officer of the Special Astrophysical Observatory of the Russian Academy of Science, head of the MMT project Grigory Beskin told TASS earlier. He added that a multichannel system was capable of detecting such meteorites at a height of around 100 kilometers provided the meteorite would be flying not more than several dozen kilometers from the observatory. To cover the entire territory of the country, a vast network containing scores of such telescopes is necessary, Beskin said.


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:16 pm

    Russsian cosmonaut reveals details about future international station in Moon’s orbit

    The International Space Station consists of fifteen modules, five of which are Russian

    MOSCOW, December 12. /TASS/. A future international space station that may be put in orbit around the Moon will be one-fourth or even one-fifth the size of the International Space Station currently orbiting the Earth, the chief of the Manned Programs Center at the space industry’s main research institute, cosmonaut Oleg Kotov, has told TASS.

    "The discussion over plans for creating an international station in the Moon’s orbit is in the initial phase. Pre-project talks are being held by the ISS partner countries at the working group level. The purpose of the station will be to create a near-Moon infrastructure for subsequent exploration and development of the Moon. Currently the station is seen as a small visitable orbiter consisting of three or four modules in the Moon’s polar highly elliptical orbit," he said.

    The International Space Station consists of fifteen modules, five of which are Russian.

    Kotov said a future lunar space station will help polish technologies crucial to exploring the Moon and deep space. In particular, it may explore the Moon’s surface using rovers and landing probes.

    "The lunar station is regarded as an international project and this is very good, because it would be very wrong to neglect the experience of international cooperation in designing and operating the ISS accumulated over years when the ISS life cycle is over.
    Russia’s lunar plans

    Russia’s Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that on presidential instructions work had begun on technical documents for creating an extra-heavy space rocket that will make it possible to start creating a visitable or inhabitable research laboratory in the Moon’s orbit.

    In the spring of 2016 it was announced that Russia’s Energia and the United States’ Boeing corporation were working jointly on two concepts of a lunar station - two smaller livable modules or one larger module. The current proposal is NASA’s future SLS super-heavy space rocket would be used to take lunar station components and crew to an orbit around the Moon. If the multi-modular project is selected, the modules will be launched in combination with a US spacecraft Orion (also being developed by NASA).

    In either case the station will have a crew of four. The duration of space missions will last 30 to 360 days. Missions to the Moon will be dispatched once a year.

    Energia’s proposal is to start creating an orbital lunar platform at the end of 2022 and to send the first crew to it in the first half of 2025. Earlier reports said Russia hoped to see its first cosmonaut on the Moon in 2031.


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    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:58 pm

    Russian astronomer discovers new comet using his own cutting-edge telescope

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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:05 am

    Looks like there are issues in rocket manufacturing at Voronezh , specifically claims of a material substitution scam with lower-cost but less heat-resistant metals being used in engines (turobopump shafts?) and leading to numerous emission losses due to engine failure.  Kommersant  has reported that RosCosmos is recalling all engines for Proton 2nd & 3rd stages. Shocked

    Only libtard sources available so far, but it sounds very plausible, and explains the loss of both Mexsat-1 and Express AM4R, as well as the recent Progress MS-04.

    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/experts-check-russian-rocket-engines-for-low-quality-metal-56918
    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/proton_2017.html

    If this is genuine, they need to catch the c*nts responsible and make a clear example of them.  Despicable corrupt b*stards.... angry
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Project Canada on Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:56 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Looks like there are issues in rocket manufacturing at Voronezh , specifically claims of a material substitution scam with lower-cost but less heat-resistant metals being used in engines (turobopump shafts?) and leading to numerous emission losses due to engine failure.  Kommersant  has reported that RosCosmos is recalling all engines for Proton 2nd & 3rd stages.  Shocked

    Only libtard sources available so far, but it sounds very plausible, and explains the loss of both Mexsat-1 and Express AM4R, as well as the recent Progress MS-04.

    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/experts-check-russian-rocket-engines-for-low-quality-metal-56918
    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/proton_2017.html

    If this is genuine, they need to catch the c*nts responsible and make a clear example of them.  Despicable corrupt b*stards....  angry

    I would say such activities is tantamount to Treason! Indeed the authorities need to make a strong example to these scumbags! A life imprisonment without parole in a remote siberian neo gulag is a good start. Twisted Evil cause a slap in the wrist kind of sentence (2 or less years in prison) will not make this kind of sabotage go away. FSB should also run a background check on the perpetrators to learn if their scheme is being directed abroad by foreign powers to cause as much havoc to Russian space industry.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Rmf on Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:08 pm

    of course this was obvious with anyone who knows a thing or two about space program, i and some others here were right, we were talking about backward ,corrupt ,inefficient  russias space program has become ,only to be insulted here ,but that cant change hard facts -  0 launches of angara in 2016 , -0 ,aaaand now proton aaand no angara launch yet for 2017 also!!!

    putins media might try to silence things but the news is already out....., will things change - too many lobbies there probably not!!!!
    So Russias space program will fade away slowly but surely.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:04 pm

    You are a retard. Russia may face issues but this isn't making them fade away. Amount of money they have now is far greater than roscosmos had in the 90's.

    You stupidity is showing again.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Project Canada on Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 pm

    Rmf wrote:
    putins media might try to silence things but the news is already out....., will things change - too many lobbies there probably not!!!!

    Why would Putin choose to "Silence things" instead of rooting out the Saboteurs in the space industry? And what Lobbies are you referring to?
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:20 pm

    Project Canada wrote:
    Rmf wrote:
    putins media might try to silence things but the news is already out....., will things change - too many lobbies there probably not!!!!

    Why would Putin choose to "Silence things" instead of rooting out the Saboteurs in the space industry? And what Lobbies are you referring to?

    he is making shit up.

    First off, Putin doesn't silence anything. That much is obvious. If I have to point it out for you, then euthanasia isn't such a bad concept.

    Second, no lobbies. It is just pure corruption of the plant itself. Almaz antey also gets issues at various of its plants even if the company itself isn't a problem.

    What children like rmf think is that of a company is working on something and doesn't produce in a year or two, its done for. What he fails to grasp though is that isn't how things work. ANGARA IS PURELY Russian and has its issues rooting out. It will take time. Its mission will be the same and purpose is just. Its customer is Russian government and agencies. Which are not ready to launch much anyway thanks to import substitution taking time. I heard same shit about Russia's mic and look at it now, thriving. I think people here are too childish and have a memory + logical deduction skills that of a rodent.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Rmf on Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:46 pm

    dont listen to that idiot i just turn him off hes useless cunt just cant stfu with moronic explanations.
    maybe not putin himself  but someone else down the line and media dont want to badmouth government.
    angara is 20 years in the making and still problems and no production let alone mass production  Laughing  
    imagine how many expensive machines have been bought from abroad to assemble angara modules , just collecting dust and rust.
    its a fiasco every cent is important for a roscosmos limited budget but throwing money into money pit and someones pockets for decades is justified by some imbeciles here.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:15 am

    Rmf wrote:BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS.................

    While there are plenty of problems I can guarantee you 2 things:

    1) Russian space program will exists for very very long time (it will certainly outlive shithole known as Kazakhstan)

    2) Baikonur will NEVER AGAIN be in full use. It will be shut down and inevitably forgotten

    So enjoy Razz
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  kvs on Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:49 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Looks like there are issues in rocket manufacturing at Voronezh , specifically claims of a material substitution scam with lower-cost but less heat-resistant metals being used in engines (turobopump shafts?) and leading to numerous emission losses due to engine failure.  Kommersant  has reported that RosCosmos is recalling all engines for Proton 2nd & 3rd stages.  Shocked

    Only libtard sources available so far, but it sounds very plausible, and explains the loss of both Mexsat-1 and Express AM4R, as well as the recent Progress MS-04.

    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/experts-check-russian-rocket-engines-for-low-quality-metal-56918
    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/proton_2017.html

    If this is genuine, they need to catch the c*nts responsible and make a clear example of them.  Despicable corrupt b*stards....  angry

    Since the cat is out of the bag they are toast. After this I am sure "Putin's" FSB will make sure to comb over other companies
    since this sort of brazen opportunism smells of foreign meddling. If I was patriotic Russian crook I would look elsewhere to make money:

    1) cutting corners of rocket engine components is not lucrative. The cost is in the assembly and not in the alloys. These are not
    gold, platinum or palladium that can be resold for big money. Who the f*ck would even know the value of some steel alloy used in
    a Russian rocket engine? There is no market.

    2) compromising the operation of the company means disrupting the money flow. So we have a clear indication that the objective
    was not to boost profits but to sabotage Russian aerospace. The US has a long tradition of recruiting criminals to further its geopolitical
    agenda. It was doing this during the USSR era by establishing contacts with the Russian underworld. I bet it increased these links
    during the 1990s Yeltsin rot fest.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:42 am

    Persistent defects ground Russian rocket engines

    as usual NATO agents continue to sabotage Russian space launches
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:58 am

    I doubt NATO agents involved. More like corruption which probably existed for quite some time but cannot continue on.

    Since Roscosmos is now considered a company and not a state run agency, they can now follow legal actions against other companies who supply to them. As well, they can do their own investigations and take whatever actions they legally can.

    And this is probably they are going to do. They will be compensated for the loss. By who, I don't know.

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    Post  Austin on Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:17 am

    Project Canada wrote:Persistent defects ground Russian rocket engines

    as usual NATO agents continue to sabotage Russian space launches

    There seems to be QA issue , It was not abnormal to loose 1 or 2 Proton launch vehical each year due to some or the other issue which they couldnt issue.

    While Sabotage Angle needs to be investigated too but its a good thing such defects are getting detected before launch and getting fixed , Thats better than loosing the satellite after launch.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  kvs on Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:13 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:I doubt NATO agents involved.  More like corruption which probably existed for quite some time but cannot continue on.

    Since Roscosmos is now considered a company and not a state run agency, they can now follow legal actions against other companies who supply to them.  As well, they can do their own investigations and take whatever actions they legally can.

    And this is probably they are going to do.  They will be compensated for the loss.  By who, I don't know.

    Corruption is a vapid catch all term for any process that is not understood. If as you say corruption is the causal mechanism,
    then the failure rate would have been worse during the 1990s and would never be tolerable to begin with. As I posted, there
    is no actual racket that can be run off cutting corners on the metals on rocket engines. Zero. Corruption would be in the
    pricing of these rocket engines as it is in the USA. Only full on retards would risk the gravy train by skimping a tiny fraction
    of the profit they make on the materials of the engines where they are critical and not cosmetic. So the corruption excuse is
    simply not credible.

    And to claim that NATO makes no interference in Russia is pure Technicolor Rainbow Ponies delusion. They have been using
    every dirty trick they can think of at the political level including blood libel hate propaganda in the mass media, but you think
    they are all chivalry when it comes to Russian industry. Get real. Industrial sabotage is one of the key elements of NATzO's
    attack on Russia.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:44 pm

    Germany’s eRosita telescope for Spektr-RG space observatory delivered to Russia for tests

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    Post  Singular_Transform on Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:23 pm

    Vann7 wrote: In summary the Rockets explosion was consequences of bad quality controls , which is consequence of bad supervision ,which is consequence of bad leadership and Putin is the ultimate leader. So it was his fault ,that proton crashed for not having the right people leading and supervising the Rocket manufacturing.  If you look always Bored with your job , calm and relaxed ,with no enthusiasm of your job, you will not encourage anyone to do better. and This is Russia problem a leadership problem. Putin ,Medvedev,Shoigu,Rogozin  ,total non sense. no idea how Russians think ,but they are not real leaders. they are actually weak all of them.  fortunately is not a total disaster..because at least they are patriotic and cares about Russia and more importantly understand the challenges they face ,just don't know how to solve them,it will have been a total disaster if they were corrupt ,like the Ukrainian leadership.


    The problems are natural, the question is how quickly and effectively you can solve them.


    And there is no ultimate one leader who responsible.

    The team is composition of the team members, not the shadow of the leader.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:39 pm

    Roscosmos starts recruitment of cosmonauts for future lunar missions

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    MOSCOW, March 14. /TASS/. Member-states of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) plan to pool together a united orbital grouping of satellites for remote sensing of the Earth, Nikolai Kushanryov, the director of the industrial policy department of the Eurasian Economic Commission told Izvestia daily.

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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:04 pm


    Oh how surprised I am (not).  Just decommission this piece of shit already and start ditching incompetent idiots....

    All engines of the second and third stages of the "Proton" are defective

    http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/1868655.html

    That is 71 engine total. And that same Clownhouse (AKA Voronezh Mechanical Plant) was also making third stage engines for Soyuz-U that was killing success rate of the platform (thankfully decommissioned now)...
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    Post  kvs on Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:57 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Oh how surprised I am (not).  Just decommission this piece of shit already and start ditching incompetent idiots....

    All engines of the second and third stages of the "Proton" are defective

    http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/1868655.html

    That is 71 engine total. And that same Clownhouse (AKA Voronezh Mechanical Plant) was also making third stage engines for Soyuz-U that was killing success rate of the platform (thankfully decommissioned now)...

    Wow. This is not idiocy, this is 5th column malice. I have met many from Russia of the liberast flavour who are rabidly
    anti-Russian and would gladly engage in outright sabotage. I do not understand the mentality of these clowns, since
    there are a lot of people in the rest of the world who were f*cked over by life and who do not turn into 5th column maggots
    to make themselves feel better.

    It looks like thorough investigation was carried out and nothing was hushed up. All that NATO fake stream media bleating
    about Russian corruption and Putin's tyranny has not a shred of fact to stand on. In fact, all the information I see is the
    exact opposite. Putin is actually doing something about corruption, unlike all of the NATO leaders.

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