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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:17 pm

    Thank you KVS. That can finally put an end to this.

    PS, I am sending you a PM, I got some matters I would like to discuss.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:19 am

    ESA, Roscosmos to sign cooperation agreement on Russian satellites

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:13 am

    Work of Russia’s RadioAstron space observatory extended till late 2018

    RadioAstron comprises a space radio-telescope mounted on the Spektr-R satellite orbited in 2011 and a network of ground-based radio-telescopes

    MOSCOW, June 21. /TASS/. Russia’s state space corporation Roscosmos has decided to extend the work of RadioAstron space observatory until the end of 2018, according to a press release of the Lebedev Physical Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences obtained by TASS on Tuesday.

    "We’re glad to share the news that Roscosmos has extended the work of RadioAstron until the end of 2018," the press release said.

    According to the Lebedev Physical Institute, the fourth year of the Russian space observatory’s open program of observations will begin in July 2016. During the past period, 11 projects were selected for implementation.

    "The leaders of applications accepted for implementation are three representatives of Russia, two from the Netherlands and one from Spain, Japan, South Africa and the United States each. As many as about 155 persons are the co-authors of the applications and represent 19 countries. The largest number of the applications' co-authors comes from Russia, followed by the United States, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Australia, Italy and others," the press release said.

    RadioAstron comprises a space radio-telescope mounted on the Spektr-R satellite orbited in 2011 and a network of ground-based radio-telescopes.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  max steel on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:43 pm

    Russia to Publish Catalog Disclosing US Military Satellites

    If US can publish ours, then Russia can publish theirs.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:39 am

    The number of nodes of "Angara" can migrate to the latest rocket "Phoenix"

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/science/20160623/1449834933.html#ixzz4Cii4N7YJ


    MOSCOW, June 23 — RIA Novosti, Alexander Kovalev. The number of fulfilled nodes and components of media type "Angara" will go to the newest Russian rocket "Phoenix", said in an interview with RIA Novosti General Director of the state space Center Khrunichev Andrew Kalinowski.
    General Director of state Corporation for space activities of Roscosmos Igor Komarov. Archive photo

    "In cooperation with someone in the project "Phoenix" will participate. Today the situation is such that one design Bureau to raise such a complex project from scratch is inefficient. Therefore, we will create with the consolidation of the efforts of several engineering schools, which will give positive results both temporary and financial. We are willing to use tried and tested at the "Hangar" experience. Some hosts will surely go with "Angara" and "the Phoenix," said Kalinowski.
    The new missile is planned to create by 2025, the efforts of cooperation of the leading Russian space enterprises. For the development of the "Phoenix" plan to spend almost 30 billion rubles. The media will output to low-earth orbit of up to 17 tonnes payload, including, for the manned program, and in geostationary orbit (with booster) — up to 2.5 tons. The "Phoenix" should be the first step of the prospective super-heavy rocket.


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/science/20160623/1449834933.html#ixzz4CiiOv87b










    Russian rocket  "Phoenix" can get the engine tested Atlas American


    Previously, the TASS source in the space industry reported that the Phoenix can use the RD-171 engines, which are on the media, "Zenit"
    MOSCOW, June 10. /TASS/. Developed in Russia, the rocket middle class "Phoenix" can get the RD-180 engine - the same used in the American media Atlas, the CEO of Issuer rocket engines NPO "Energomash" Igor Arbuzov.
    "As the RD-180 has great practice of using foreign carriers, it would be unwise not to consider this experience for the Russian launch vehicles, so it is most likely that the engine will be installed on new Russian carrier rocket "Phoenix", - said Arbuzov, whose words are included in the corporate edition of the "Energomash".
    "Phoenix" is planned to create by 2025, to develop a new launch vehicle will spend nearly 30 billion rubles. The media will output to low-earth orbit of up to 17 tonnes payload, including the manned program, and in geostationary orbit (with booster) - up to 2.5 tons. The "Phoenix" should be the first step of the prospective super-heavy rocket.
    Previously, the TASS source in the space industry reported that the Phoenix can use the RD-171 engines, which are on the vehicles "Zenith".

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/kosmos/3355241

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Austin on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:42 pm

    In Roskosmos plan to expand the constellation of remote sensing satellites with 8 to 23
    06.28.2016 12:29:57

    Moscow. June 28. Interfax-AVN - Within the framework of the Federal Space Program (FCP) 2016-2025 it is planned to increase the constellation of eight Earth remote sensing (ERS) satellites to 23, the Federal Space Agency said Tuesday. "

    "By 2025 it is planned to increase the constellation of eight satellites (in 2015) to 23 satellites orbital constellation means of remote sensing will greatly reduce the dependence of the Russian Federation on the use of foreign space data and simultaneously fulfill international obligations in the field of global hydro-meteorological observation." - Said in the text of the provisions of the French Communist Party 2016-2025, posted on the website of the state corporation.

    It says that the expansion of the constellation of remote sensing capability improves the reliability of short-term forecasts in the region and increase the frequency of the data on the state of the surrounding built-up areas, suburban areas and rural settlements, the construction of roads, the state of the surrounding forests.

    "In addition, space remote sensing systems are able to provide the creation of inventories of natural resources, the definition of places and scope of emergencies, monitoring ice conditions in the Arctic," - said in a press release.

    The text also says that the spacecraft hydrometeorological support "Meteor-M" planned installation target apparatus COSPAS-SARSAT.
    COSPAS-SARSAT - international satellite search and rescue system designed for distress and personal location beacons and beacons installed on board ships and aircraft in the event of emergencies.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:20 pm

    Roscosmos will develop sample of a reusable first stage booster


    MOSCOW, 29 Jun — RIA Novosti. Roscosmos is ready to proceed to the creation of the flight model, the return of the first stage of the carrier rocket, the Khrunichev center, assembled a team of specialists, writes the newspaper "Izvestia".
    According to the principal designer of the Roscosmos space missile system, Alexander Medvedev, the company has recreated the Department for reusable launch vehicles.
    "It happened just a month ago. To work there we invited people who were created in his time "Buran". The Department is headed by Paul A. the Lehov, one of the designers of the system "Energy-Buran", — leads edition of the words of principal designer.

    The center Khrunichev designs winged first stage that can return to the spaceport like a plane and land on the runway. Medvedev is convinced that Russia returned the first stage with wings coming out is the best option.
    As explained by the chief designer of the Russian space Agency for space rocket complexes, the work on the return of the first stage of the center is already about 20 years old, in 2001 was introduced the first prototype system "Baikal".
    The first stage of the rocket is the most expensive to produce: there are boosters that determine the media. The cost of the engines is can be up to $ 70 million.


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/science/20160629/1454001287.html#ixzz4Cxiwup1Y





    Laser ignition of rocket engines was included in "100 best inventions of Russia"

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/science/20160628/1453783262.html#ixzz4CxjLEHfP





    Austin wrote:In Roskosmos plan to expand the constellation of remote sensing satellites with 8 to 23



    so now Free Beacons can be better surveilled  Smile

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:17 pm

    Russia’s Progress cargo spacecraft re-docked to ISS

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:07 pm

    Carrier rocket with new series manned spacecraft installed on launch pad

    The blastoff of the Soyuz-FG carrier rocket with the Soyuz MS transport manned spacecraft is scheduled for 04:36 am, Moscow time on July 7




    BAIKONUR, July 4. /TASS/. The Soyuz-FG carrier rocket with the Soyuz MS manned spacecraft, the first in a new series, is installed on the launch pad of the Baikonur Cosmodrome (Kazakhstan), the press service of the Russian State Space Corporation Roscosmos told TASS on Monday.

    "In accordance with the decision of the state commission, the Soyuz-FG carrier rocket with the Soyuz MS transport manned spacecraft has been rolled out from the assembly and testing facility to the launch pad," the Roscosmos source said.

    Read also
    Russia has no plans to deliver US astronauts to ISS after 2018 — official

    The state commission is planned to meet on July 6 to approve on the results of the training of cosmonauts and astronauts the main crew of the next mission to the International Space Station (ISS).

    The blastoff of the Soyuz-FG carrier rocket with the Soyuz MS transport manned spacecraft is scheduled for 04:36 am, Moscow time on July 7.

    The international ISS crew trio - Commander Anatoli Ivanishin of Russia’s Roscosmos and Flight Engineers - Japanese astronaut Takuya Onishi and NASA astronaut Kate Rubins - finished their last training operations at the Baikonur Cosmodrome and are now having a rest enjoying ahead of their planned liftoff on Thursday.

    Soyuz MS introduces a number of systems upgrades on the trusted Russian spacecraft, primarily focused on the vehicle’s navigation, control and communications system. The modified systems were tested in an operational environment aboard a pair of Progress cargo missions starting in December 2015 to fully check out all new components in space before committing to a crewed flight.

    The MS modification replaces the old Kvant radio system of Soyuz with a Unified Command and Telemetry System and the new communications system enables Soyuz to use the Luch data relay satellites to keep in contact with mission control for the majority of its treks around the planet.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:27 pm



    Very nice information about the last Soyuz launch..
    with all new instruments installed by Russia ,must see!!

    LIVE: Expedition 48 lifts off for Space Station





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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:11 am

    Progress MS-03 cargo spacecraft launched from Baikonur site - Roscosmos

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:01 pm

    Ukraine cannot live a day without throwing a jab at Russia.  lol1

    Is now claiming will build a rocket to replace Russia RD-180 engines.


    http://sputniknews.com/science/20160705/1042435813/ukraine-us-rocket-launch.html


    you have to give credit to US and Ukraine for understanding how to counter the very small
    influence Russia have in the world. By replacing Russia space program. For sure the whole
    thing will be a reverse engineering of the RD-180 engines and claim them to be Ukrainian
    made. in any case ,All this goes back ,for what i have been saying for a long time. There is a
    WAR OF INFLUENCE.  And Ukraine could have chosen to compete with Russia in agriculture
    since they have plenty of land ideal for that.. even more than Russia. but why Ukraine wants to
    compete with Russia in Space rockets ? and not in farming potatoes?  What does space technology have that Americans and now Ukraine takes the first shot (by an Ukraine-American cooperation ),the place to compete with Russia? when Ukraine could more easily compete with Russia in agriculture or in mining of steel and other construction materials. ?


    This is similar to observing two men competition for one women. And one go and choose to impress a girl by study a Phd in Aeronautical Engineering..and the other go and choose to not study at all , and just live with easy jobs ,washing cars.. which one of them will have a far better chance to get the attention of the women and even be taken seriously?

    And this is exactly Russia problem in the world.. an Image problem.
    That does not lead ,do not impress in the things it really matters for the average
    civilians .in the things that makes headlines and draw world attention.

    If a nation as broken ,like Ukraine ,the poorest country in all Europe ,can be ambitious in space , i don't see why Russia cannot move away from its comfort zone in space being just a taxi and do something amazing in space that they have never done before.

    There is a war of influence , of  US against Russia.  and Americans unfortunately fully understand how to target and downplay Russia role in the world. Russia is just a gas station
    says Obama.. regardless if its true or not.. doesn't matter. What matter is the image ,the influence ,the leading or lack of leading image in Business that Russia project in the world.
    So every day there is a war on influence.. and Russia not doing much to advertise or promote better its nation. you only have to look how Putin downplayed Russia itself by claiming US is the only super power .. in other words that america was better that Russia. No

    No idea what kind of advisors Putin have. but they all should be shot in the head .
    for failing to advice Putin to project a better confidence and a better image of their nation .
    and to explain him , that leading in most influential Business in the world is extremely important For Russia . To attract business and counter american total domination of the west.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:21 pm

    Who cares... look at the experience of countries buying ukrainian products... the level of corruption means anything you pay up front for you will likely never see... along with your money...

    BTW the only thing worth a damn in Russia is a rocket engine?

    Are you trying to be a dick?


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:01 pm

    GarryB wrote: BTW the only thing worth a damn in Russia is a rocket engine?

    and vodka Razz

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:17 am

    GarryB wrote:

    BTW the only thing worth a damn in Russia is a rocket engine?


    Never said Russia does not produce anything. They are leading in Nuclear reactors,
    Space Rockets and military technology. But when it comes to civilians oriented Business influence , the only thing Russia have that capture the attention of the the most developed nations in the world ,is their rockets and nothing else.

    Russia problems as i said many times is that is does not influence anyone in the world ,or
    to be more correct ,that doest do much other than space rockets and weapons..
    It does not represent not even close an alternative to the American world . It doesnt
    find its own way.. that you clearly believe Russia should do. But does nothing of that.
    Since Russia follows the American World and later complain that it doesn't like the rules
    when americans cheat them.. as doing in sports . No

    So then why Russia continues following the American world then? why in hell Russia
    does not creates its own way? Continue using American Internet ,with
    American computers , and continues to allow Americans to influence its society with American
    entertainment and later Putin does not understand why he creates so many "Traitors" and 5t column.

    Russia is in Syria alone ,nobody following Russia for fear of Americans sanctions.
    Not even Russian allies follows Russia when it more need it..

    The Elephant in the Chinese porcelain store ,is Russia lack of leadership in the
    world . Russia follows Americans and later complains of Americans rules .. and later complain when nations Join NATO and do not defend their independence ,but Russia does not offers an alternative for them. Putin is in total disconnection from the world he lives. Americans have setup a business world ,where they dominate in almost everything and Russia does not compete, and stay happy with just making easy money. but later do not understand why their interest are not respected.  Rolling Eyes

    In more news Russia doing more of what they love to do , they have mastered the art
    of cheerleading their American Heroes. to lead Russia in a join mission to the moon.   No

    http://sputniknews.com/world/20160721/1043371899/america-russia-plan-moon-mission.html

    I don't see the point of Putin promoting patriotism with words ,but doing nothing in the world
    to turn Russia into a leading Nation in the world , if continues be happy to follow Americans
    direction and happy to help NASA to be more effective in their leadership in space and over Shadow Russia.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:14 pm

    Putin is not under the same delusion as you.

    He understands that he rules Russia and is not trying to rule the whole world.

    Putin trying to rule the world from Russia would be like the English Prime Minister trying to Rule the world.

    She has some influence in some places but no real authority to command anyone except those that elected him.

    Unlike the US president Putin does not want to rule the world... it is not his responsibility or his problem... his problem is to sort things out for Russia not fix the problems of the world.

    Just because you want a world dominated by Russia does not mean it could or should or will happen.

    To be honest I would expect a world where putin was in charge of the US to be not so hypocritical, and rather more fair, but it will never actually be totally fair.. the best solution is a multipolar world where no cuontry can command or demand everyone do as they say... a few dozen more Putins in the larger countries that can say no when it is in their countries interests to say so is what the world really needs... not a Russia doing what the US is now... not an American Russia.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Project Canada on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:44 pm

    GarryB wrote:Putin is not under the same delusion as you.

    He understands that he rules Russia and is not trying to rule the whole world.

    Putin trying to rule the world from Russia would be like the English Prime Minister trying to Rule the world.

    She has some influence in some places but no real authority to command anyone except those that elected him.

    Unlike the US president Putin does not want to rule the world... it is not his responsibility or his problem... his problem is to sort things out for Russia not fix the problems of the world.

    Just because you want a world dominated by Russia does not mean it could or should or will happen.

    To be honest I would expect a world where putin was in charge of the US to be not so hypocritical, and rather more fair, but it will never actually be totally fair.. the best solution is a multipolar world where no cuontry can command or demand everyone do as they say... a few dozen more Putins in the larger countries that can say no when it is in their countries interests to say so is what the world really needs... not a Russia doing what the US is now... not an American Russia.

    After reading your post, i realized what i desire in my mind too is a Russia that has a tremendous global power, but only as payback for decades of American hegemony in that position. Actually it doesn't matter if Russia never gets back its Superpower status, but at least the USA must be dethroned of its Superpower status at any costs, yes even if it means a global financial collapse, people should stop being greedy, at least be preapared to lose some, be ready to sacrifice a few, otherwise, the USA will continue to thrive on people's fears that its collapse will deprive people of their everyday luxury and entertainment! I think this is a major reason why even though so many people hate/dislike USA, they are not in favor of its demise. All because of Greed and Fear.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:56 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    Just because you want a world dominated by Russia does not mean it could or should or will happen.


    Im not asking Russia to "Dominate the world". Im asking Russia to stop depending in Americans
    for everything ,to do something they refuse to do , that is compete and become a LEADER too
    in the world. Is not that Russia needs to dominate in everything.  Look at Japan , Japan is a leader in technology and entertainment and give a very strong competition to Americans.
    But japan does not control the world. but they are Respected for being a leading nation too.
    A nation that leads in many things.  Russia needs to influence the world , in positive ways..
    not with Nuclear weapons.

    Is Outrageous that with all the talent Russia scientist and engineers have ,they go and focus its business in safe  things /low risk business like Agriculture or Selling cheap gas and oil. And allow Americans to dominate heavily in the business that Leads nations into the future. Even a nation
    as tiny as South Korea with 1/3 the population of Russia ,and 1/100 its territory ,is more respected than Russia ,when it comes with consumer business ,technology and automobiles and entertainment.   Neutral

    Observing the fight between US and Russia ..is like observing an adult taking the candies
    of a children. and he then cry , then look for another candy and again the adult take it.
    Russia is being Humiliated Left ,center and right in the world by Americans.  And the only
    Thing they do is be Sorry about it.  Instead of Developing in a way that does not depend
    from American business. Putin needs to wait for sanctions of the west , to start developing
    import substitution of technology. This is unbelievable that he could be so short of vision.

    Russia have a problem of Influence , of leadership or not being able to convince
    other developed nations , specially EUROPE , to stop following the American world. To stop supporting American wars . That they can cut relations with americans and it will not matter ,because Russia-CHINA combination can offer a solution ,an alternative .

    The world will only follow leaders, nations that leads in the world ,that innovate and do things
    that others dont do.. and Russia stays happy with just making easy money and do not take big
    risk. Now exploring the idea of join mission with NASA for the moon ,with the same country
    that is banning Russia from the olympics. Neutral


    it looks to me that Putin's Strategy for Russia development since he came to power
    in 2000 was all about defeating Saudi Arabia energy business and becoming a monopoly in the world in natural Gas , while allowing Americans to continue win the hearts of the world ,influence it , and dominate in the world in most technology and civilians popular business.  No
    NASA new discoveries here .. NASA new images there.. NASA this NASA that. While Putin
    drink chanpange with gasprom for the profits on any year , Americans wins the world hearts ,including Russian people hearts with their companies  Intel ,Apple ,Microsoft ,movies,  and  endless entertainment.

    Why Europe is the one that needs to be influenced and not others?
    Because without Europe support ,United States becomes a regional power and
    lose NATO and no longer will be able to lead any war anywhere. Without Europe
    NATO disband ,Sanctions on Russia economy ends and an Alliance of Russia with Europe +CHINA can create combined an alternative to the American business world a new internet , banking system etc.  a new alternative world without Americans controlling it. This is what Russia needs to do. Is not only about money.. but about amazing people with your business.
    innovating and leading too in the world. thats what Russia needs to stop americans exceptionalism.

    But because Europe see Russia as a totally leaderless nation , that does not lead in business
    and for the only reason needs Russia is for cheap gas and cheap taxi to ISS ,
    then they continue supporting the American exceptionalism world.


    But Russia cannot stay happy with taxi to the ISS. and needs to eclipse American in space.
    Why Space? Because is the place Russia have better chance to compete and win. But it could
    be any other thing if they scared to take risk is space. they could try to compete in IT
    or create a new internet etc. Internet free of American NSA spy ..will be a major selling point.

    Anyway is not your fault ,but  is so pathetic to see Putin and Russia being humiliated again and again and Putin slapped in the face and he turning the other cheek. Now it looks Russia will throw the towel too in space by doing join missions with NASA for a few dollars. ,helping
    americans to more easier humiliate Russia later .  No

    If Putin focused in space as much he focus in Sports ,($62 billions in sports from 2014 to 2018)  im sure we will be seeing already Russia with manned mission to moon and mars , already. and not in the year 2030-2035 ,as Russia claims will like to try again the moon.



    USA must be dethroned of its Superpower status at any costs ..., yes even if it means a global financial collapse, people should stop being greedy, at least be prepared to lose some, be ready to sacrifice a few, otherwise, the USA will continue to thrive on people's fears that its collapse will deprive people of their everyday luxury and entertainment! I think this is a major reason why even though so many people hate/dislike USA, they are not in favor of its demise. All because of ... ....Greed and Fear.


    All because of fear of not being able to replace Americans business and leadership of the world.
    Without American business leadership ,without American internet imagine what kind of world
    we will be?  The infrastructure have to be created to replace Americans business in case its economy collapse. Russia will do right in start thinking about a new internet with China and a new banking system and a new swift which is the banking transanctions private "internet network".  Now you have western banks ,allied with America ,directly stealing from Russian banks millions.. this is something never before in history of the world happened. a bank stealing another bank with full complicity of swift who monitors and controls the transanctions. and later  blamed on "hacking".

    If American were not leading in so many important business , you can be sure ,no one will be following them. Ukrainians replace LEnin Statues for American Movies statues. is just an example how the American Business  is like a drug that dominates so much , that helps them
    to win the hearts of people in the world.. even from its enemies. North Korea for example
    love american basketball , Russians love american movies and music. and so and so.
    Americans almost total domination in every business is what makes them really dangerous ,
    is what makes them believe they should rule the world.

    And what Putin's Russia policies are doing.. is encouraging americans even more to
    fight them. by showing no competition to them. So Russia have an obligation in the world
    to fight back American top business.  

    What Putin did when Americans sanctions Russia in 2014?  told all its billionaires to invest
    in agriculture.  Neutral    Which is not a terrible idea ,but neither is the best one they could have taken. Russia could just fight back Americans to hit them where it will hurt really them.
    It defeating Americans top business..  ie.. NASA,Internet,Microsft,Intel,Apple, or as a bonus compete with American entertainment industry etc.... any of those companies dethroned or
    at least giving a real strong alternative ,will have a monumental impact in diminishing Americans leadership in the world. Because those are companies that Europe (the ones Russia needs to lure away from US) do not have an alternative.  If a nation like ITALY for example ,
    choose to defend its nation sovereignty and listen Russia call ,to fight back ,and move to the Russia world. It will be overthrow its prime minister in no time by street protest , when Italy disconnected from Internet ,disconnected from swift banking ,and sanctions of americans companies on them.

    So Putin tells Europe.. hey defend your independence and interest..
    Europe respond to Russia.. But you don't offer us any other alternative.. how you want
    us to move closer to Russia ,if Russia itself follows United States ? and depends on United States?  Neutral

    So Putin's policies in Russia, helps tremendously United States to keep its allies tight and ignore Russia calls for a fairer world. This is because Russia consumer business does not lead the world in anything in the things that are most important for a modern society to exist.  Europe can find
    a decent replacement if not something better for 100% of the things Russia Business offers in the world. but it cannot do the same with United States business ,that almost leads in all.

    As of matter of fact.. is not Russia the one causing real problems American.. but CHINA.
    China is not leading with an Asian pacific bank ,that is growing at a huge pace and already have 100 countries behind it ,including American top allies. it was a major slap in the face of American banks. and China moved closer to UK , provoking that country to take a distance from the Americans leadership in trade ,politics and banking industry and now compete too by leaving the EU with the BREXIT.

    So is China the one that puts in trouble Americans leadership and not Russia. Americans can continue forever arming jihadist in the middle east to fight Russia and Syria. CHina is even trying to gets its currency replace the american one.

    US leading business is what allows Americans to lead the world the way they do. And if Russia ever wants to stop turning the other cheek and stop being humiliated again and again and again , with coups after coups on their borders ,and make its interest to be respected in the world,
    and be taken more seriously.  Then Mr Putin Better stop being So Lazy and So Lame ,
    and move away from its comfort zone of easy low risk business and start competing with Americans top business too to make Russia a much more attractive nation for Europe and
    lure them away from the american world . Russia does not need to totally replace USA.
    All it needs ,is to show some leadership in some business key , that people world wide really
    value and love.. to send a strong signal to Europe ,that Russia will no longer be Lazy nation
    and can become an alternative to Americans business where they really dominate and no one
    in Europe have anything to counter it effectively.

    But Mr Putin ... No   He is living a parallel world of past soviet glories.
    The more Americans humiliate Russia the more follower and obedient to the American PArtners they become. ASking permission Americans to defend their allies from Alqaeda. No  And later Putin dont understand why Russia is not respected ,NATO keeps growing and no one listen Russia . is because MR PUTIN is totally wrong the way is leading Russia.

    Putin See Americans Attacking Russia left center and right, shuting down their planes ,overthrowing its allies , and he look to the sides , and all they do is complain and business as usual after the protest.  Im not suggesting Russia should start a world war 3 with nukes. But that Russia cannot ,i repeat cannot continue ignoring americans domination of the world ,and needs to block it , counter it and neutralize it ,so that no longer Europe follows them.
    Because American business hegemony is really from where all Americans powers come ,and needs to fight back.  Is not American weapons what makes Europe follow Americans. Is not their race , or because Americans are more cool ,is American business what does that. american leadership in business in the world.

    Putin leads Russia to become a useless nation for the west. the retard really believe that by pivoting to Asia ,or selling more potatoes ,and increasing its exports in wheat or making more nukes ,or winning more medals in sports ,will be able to counter Americans hegemony in the world. or that as soon Russia economy start to grow they will be fine. WRONG. AMericans will only continue repeating Ukraine and Syria ,on Russian borders ,will continue aiding freedom fighters forcing Russia to waste a LOT of money in wars that are not theirs.

    By disconnecting from the west, (with the pivot to Asia) What Russia does is to make it easier for Americans to damage Russia even more ,by increasing NATO size. now Findlan is under a huge pressure to join NATO. and what Findlan can do? if Russia do not lead and only follows Americans too?


    Putins policies are 100% wrong ,Since Russia fights Americans influence in very superficial things ,that does not minimize in any way ,shape or form ,the leadership of Americans.. With the only exception of space. Where Russia have been able to humiliate Americans. But Putin do not see the big opportunity he have in space to totally eclipse Americans leading role in the world ,if he only took more seriously its space program. as serious as he takes sports. if Putin switched the budgets of Russia ,that he spend in sports ,for Space. that is 62 billions in 4 years for Russia space program (the money spend or will do by Russia since 2014 to 2018 in sochi and fifa2018) and used what he spend in space for sports. that is 2 billion a year x 4 - 8billions.  then we will have a totally different Russia today. Putin spend in sports infrastructure as much Americans spend in NASA space program ,and Americans spend 10% of what Russia does in Sports.. . Laughing

    If Russia was leading in space ,taking all the world headlines and Russia was walking in the moon or mars with humans and sending every day transmission live from there. it will be
    stealing the show worldwide and nobody will care to see those silly games in Olympics ,
    when history is being made in the world in space. But Mr Putin the Genius NOT.. will cooperate
    with their "American partners" with join missions to the moon ,to help United States to be more
    prepared to humiliate Russia more. Russia even allows Americans to reverse engineers its Engines. No   So that Russia can become even more irrelevant nation in the world.  Laughing

    Hopefully young generations of politicians in Russia with a more forward thinking ,will help Putin to see how his own mediocre policies ,strengten Americans domination of the world. i do not see Putin ever ,to put Russia in a leadership position ever in the world. he prefers to keep a low profile and that Russia is allowed to raise its economy in peace selling a lot of cheap gas and potatoes. Perhaps Medvedev could do it. but not sure. still he looks to be more aware of how important is Russia image and modernization of its business.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Project Canada on Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:46 am


    Russian finance ministry eyeing 15% cuts in financing space programs — media

    According to Izvestia daily, the biggest cut - of 30% - will be in the Glonass program

    http://tass.ru/en/economy/891111

    Very disappointing times

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:14 am

    Project Canada wrote:

    Russian finance ministry eyeing 15% cuts in financing space programs — media

    According to Izvestia daily, the biggest cut - of 30% - will be in the Glonass program

    http://tass.ru/en/economy/891111

    Very disappointing times


    Indeed..  


    Is a Total Waste of talent , that a nation like Russia
    with all the scientific capabilities it have , is lead by Monkeys ,
    that continues destroying the future of Russia , by taking so lame decisions
    that will handle on a silver plate to the Americans , the domination of space .
    Allowing Russia to become even more Useless Nation in the world.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:30 am

    Project Canada wrote:

    Russian finance ministry eyeing 15% cuts in financing space programs — media

    According to Izvestia daily, the biggest cut - of 30% - will be in the Glonass program

    http://tass.ru/en/economy/891111

    Very disappointing times

    That's because Medvedev is a liberast, and the current agreement is that Siloviki runs the foreign policy (Putin) while the liberals run domestic economy (Medvedev)...with the collapse of relations with Western nations it basically means the liberals outlived their usefulness. Russia has already some of the lowest debt-GDP ratio, and lowest taxes among the top 10 economies in the world...it's time to kick the Medvedevs, Grefs, Potanins, Gaidars to the curb and bring in the economic Siloviki (Glazyev) to take their place.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:21 am

    Looks like Russia is aiming at bringing the budget of Roscosmos to that of same levels of India's space agency.  It is understandable that if exchange rates were still the same as it was in 2014, then the budget would look much higher, but in reality, this is still not good imo as Russia has quite a bit to it in terms of its space industry.

    What this will do is a couple of things:
    1) Expansion of Glonass will fall.  It will end up being very limited outside of Russia, South Africa and Brazil.
    2) Force Roscosmos to look towards private investments and development, which could undermine future development through the government programs as the private ones may end up taking priority.
    3) Development of other systems may be pushed back a few years (so heavy rocket may be scrapped or pushed back 5+ years longer).
    4) Technological development will be curbed unless there is a push by the military.
    5) Layoffs and other purges in Roscosmos to save money.

    I imagine some people in Russia's government looks and says "Well, China and India are successful with such a small space budget", but what they do not realize is that costs for development in those countries are a lot less than in Russia due to human capital.

    In the end, Roscosmos may look into joint work with both China and India for co-operation between each others in order to cut costs overall and still get somewhat the results they want.  But I truly think Russia should fund it by far more than it is now.

    Only benefit is, after 2020 when the defense budget drops, I imagine they will try to play catch up by increasing budget of the space program again.  But this concept of austerity isn't going to do them much other than lose talent and degrade the corporations capabilities for these few years, just to save a few rubles.  It will end up biting them in the butt later.

    Good thing is, this isn't set in stone as per the article.  We will find out in September regarding it.  I imagine they have all agreed with this excluding possibly the president.  There will be counter arguments to this that may prevent these cuts from happening.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:10 pm

    The american government , the Neocons have to be laughing real hard now
    and from their ass and in the floor .. at the huge mistakes Russia Government is doing.

    Russia government politics does more damage to Russia that any western Sanction
    could ever do. By slowing down significatively the development and progress of Russia.

    Russia is cutting his own Legs , in the only Business that Russia have that have earn
    respect in the world in the west. I can imagine NASA with the help of Ellon Musk
    and SpaceX stealing the Show away of Russia in the moon and mars for at least another
    decade and that we will see how Russia will be owned real bad in just 5 years more or less.
    And even its space program totally sanctioned , when no longer Americans have any need for it or any cooperation with Russia in space.  This means that Russia space program will have next to no client in the west ,for fear of retaliation by Americans. So is a chain reaction that will significantly reduce jobs in the space industry and significantly slow down Russia Technology and space industry.  All thanks to the Russia government total disconnection of the world and reality they live.

    Imho Russia should send all its Engineers to work for China , at least there ,they will not be
    wasted there ,because China will not cut its budget in space . and is the only nation that really
    not scared to shit to compete and defeat Americans in space. and have shown real ambitions
    in space.

    While Russia is planning to cut its budget even more , while at the same time
    funding more Soviet Veterans ,that not even live in Russia ,and spending more in
    useless Sports , NASA and China space program are increasing their budgets in space.  No
    NASA is even getting more money ,that the one originally Obama wanted.
    Unfortunately for us , Putin have gone full retard ,since the west gave sanctions on Russia ,
    Putin cuts the budget of Russia in the things he needs to invest more and over spending in the things Russia needs less or that are a total waste of money and  time.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:22 pm

    On topic:

    It is not a boom time economically for Russia... it is actually normal for a fiscally responsible country to reduce spending on non essential things when money isn't there to spend.

    It just means when more money is available then budgets can increase.

    Off topic:

    Im not asking Russia to "Dominate the world". Im asking Russia to stop depending in Americans
    for everything ,to do something they refuse to do , that is compete and become a LEADER too
    in the world. Is not that Russia needs to dominate in everything.

    Who says Russia depends on the US for anything?

    Even a nation
    as tiny as South Korea with 1/3 the population of Russia ,and 1/100 its territory ,is more respected than Russia ,when it comes with consumer business ,technology and automobiles and entertainment.

    Russia is just at the start of finding out where it is going and who it is... demanding that every 5th TV sold in the west is made in Russia by a Russian brand is just silly.

    The low value of the Russian currency will likely actually make it more likely western companies will shift their production to Russia to reduce costs... but only when the sanctions end.

    Anyway... enough off topic... RUSSIAN SPACE NEWS ONLY


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion #2

    Post  TheRealist on Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:47 pm

    A new eye in the sky.

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    Russia About to Drastically Boost Its Orbital Surveillance Capabilities

    A new type of advanced surveillance satellites will soon bolster the reconnaissance capabilities of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

    The mainstay of the new space surveillance system will be the new 14F156 Razdan satellites, which are expected to replace the existing 14F137 Persona craft.

    Several sources in Russian industrial and military circles have told the newspaper Kommersant that the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Progress State Research and Production Rocket Space Center are already discussing the specifics of engineering Razdan satellites.

    While little information regarding the new satellite’s capabilities and characteristics is currently available, the newspaper reports that Razdan is set to totally outclass its predecessors.

    The satellite will be able to maintain contact with Earth via a new high-speed secure radio channel, and will eventually be fitted with new telescopes with an objective lens diameter of 2 meters.

    The first Razdan satellite is expected to be launched from Plesetsk Cosmodrome in 2019, with the second and the third craft scheduled to join it in space in 2022 and 2024 respectively.


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