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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Rodinazombie on Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:40 am

    kvs wrote:What's so bad about re-establishing "the Soviet sphere of influence"?   Nothing says it will be anti-democratic except for the
    fake NATO "democracies" who are all imperial vassals of the USA.   NATO does not get to decide for the rest of the planet what
    is important and how they should live.   It is time for NATO to be contained.    These clowns have been attempting to dominate
    the planet for centuries.   They have a clear record of evil that is also still very much active.

    I have no issue with nato existing, a cohesive organisation that unites the majority of european states gives the continent a level of security and stability never before seen in history. The problem begins when nato believes it must constantly expand and take in new members and believs it can do whatever it wants with nobody to oppose it. You need an opposite force to push back and keep it in check. Since the breakup of the ussr this brief period of a unipolar world has given the US and nato the erroneous belief that they have the god given right to rule the world alone for all time. They will get the message, eventually. But there will be plently of blood, sweat, tears and lots of hysteria coming out of the white house and nato before then.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Captain Nemo on Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:43 pm

    The US goal is not to prevent the restablishment of "the Soviet sphere of influence" but to cut Russia economically and politically from its neigbours and prevent the creation of an economic alliance that could function independently from the US sphere of influence.

    From an US perspective, countries, and moreover alliances, that are independent from US effective hegemony are a bad thing.

    Since the US understood that it could eventually lose its dominant position in the World, it seems to have decided to prevent this outcome at all costs, and becomes more and more active, even agressive in attempts to counter any chain of events that would weaken its dominant global position.

    I remember the TV debate about security with McCain in Obama's first campaign.

    He stated that increasing economic ties between China and South America represent a security (!) threat to the United States...

    No one in the US or Western media found this statement problematic. (The Chinese also kept quiet, probably to avoid "influencing" the campaign).

    BTW. economic ties of South America with China are a "security threat" for the USA, but the expansion of NATO, attempts to cut economic ties with neighbours and sabotage Russian efforts to create its own economic alliances would not represent a security threat to Russia, and Russia has no reasons to worry...

    Interestingly, Brzezinski aso appeared on TV (CNN or CNBC, I don't remember) during that first campaign, and higly praised Obama for having read all his books and "was impressed" how well he understood and agreed with the geostrategic concepts in his books. (Let's remind that in his books, he advocates the dismembering of Russia among other things - for the "good of Russia" of course - to "free its creativity"... )

    Unfortunately, I can't find that interview on Youtube, but here is a speech where Obama praises Brzezinski as the greatest US intellectual / thinker of our times:

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    That speech is clearly a reassurance to some circles of power that he will not deviate from the US hegemonic strategic line.


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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:01 am

    http://fortruss.blogspot.ru/2015/09/putin-critic-navalny-exposed-as.html

    Former adviser to the Kirov Region Governor, Alexei Navalny, has reported on his general work and campaign trail to American diplomats, we are told by Cyril Strelnikov. He personally visited the informal meeting of the members of the RPR-Parnassus, which was attended by foreign guests.

    The US is brazen in its support for sedition in Russia. Russia needs to act accordingly.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:16 pm



    The Al Nusra alleged photograph of Russian jets is a total fake.  

    The source of the above is from a poster, Drutten, on Mark Chapman's blog called Kremlin Stooge.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:28 am

    Vladimir Alexeyevich Braginski Xie wrote:Russia can win Cold War

    We have entered a new stage of the Cold War with the United States. This can be seen in remarks expressed by leading American politicians, political scientists and numerous articles. Russian officials still prefer to use more abstract expressions and definitions. The Russian cult of hunger for justice still tries to prove something in the debate about what is happening in Ukraine. Obviously, the new cold war has started again because of Russia’s belief in the power of a simple handshake. If leaders shake hands, it means that we do not have “black thoughts,” nor do we prepare any treacherous attacks on opposite number. This is what we, the Russians, thought. They were shaking our hand as the hand of an opponent that was defeated in the previous cold war. Smiling their dazzling Hollywood smiles, American leaders were moving their military-political bloc eastwards, closer to Russia’s borders. We were wondering: Russia and America were friends, damn it, we shared common democratic values. Vladimir Putin once suggested Russia should join NATO and EU. In return, Russia could only see American smiles against the background of ideological and military offensive, as the Americans were deploying more and more of their military bases closer and closer to our borders. Now, in hindsight, we understand that there was one goal: Russian energy resources (how primitive, some will say). Yet, energy resources – oil, coal, gas – stand above all for those who thought of themselves as masters of the world after the collapse of the bipolar system. Russia, from their point of view, is just a big fat land of cash that has to be appropriated. If the current Ukrainian authorities think of themselves as masters of the universe, they are sadly mistaken. Their country, and all events that are now happening there, serves as a bargaining chip in the global game for Russian resources. There is shale gas in Ukraine too. In the area of Luhansk and Donetsk, Washington does not bother to think of civilians, because all those people will die anyway, when the extraction of shale gas begins. As for the new stage of the war between Russia and the USA – the war has been going on for all these years. Last century, Russia offered quite a correct approach to the issue of mutually beneficial cooperation: Russia cuts prices on energy carriers, and the West gives Russia technology. America showed Russia the finger. America was attracting Russian scientists, declining technologies. Noteworthy, the USA has only 30 percent of scientists, who received education in the USA. I’ve been asking myself: were we stupid all this time? And the answer is – no, of course not. We were trying to proceed from what was hammered into our heads during the perestroika period. We were proceeding from academician Sakharov’s ideas of the unified world that would be so much better than the world divided into blocs. American politicians were proceeding from different things. Remember the remarks from, Hillary Clinton, who will always be referred to as anti-Monica, who said that Siberia should by rights belong to the world (i.e. to America). That is, Russia was always seen as a victim that should be snatched up and torn apart. Vladimir Putin, as a pragmatist, was doing one very important thing. He was trying, even at the cost of losses, to build the country into the structure of world economy. One can see from Moscow’s very restrained sanctions against the West that he managed to make Europe react sharply to Russia’s dissatisfaction. Russia can impose other sectoral sanctions on the West. Needless to say that the field of energy is the main trump card, but there are lots of other sanctions that Russia can use. This is where we begin to understand the true meaning of president’s actions that were seen as his deviation from short-term interests of Russian business. Today, announcing retaliatory sanctions on certain sectors of economy, Russia is striking a sensitive blow on the political supremacy of the United States in Europe. The USA declared a new Cold War on Russia. Fine. Russia has not started this war yet, in America’s vulnerable field. We still have not used so-called Helsinki groups. Hello, Ms. Lyudmila Alekseeva? If you continue to remain silent on what has been happening in Ferguson, all Russians will think of you as a vulgar hireling of the US State Department! All your excuses that you think only of Russia sound very cheap, because human rights have no national boundaries. We have not used the funding for the activity of Rossotrudnichestvo (Russian Cooperation), which still believes that it is vitally important to hold concerts, distribute booklets about Russia and tell stories about the studies of the Russian language. Mr. Konstantin Kosachev, Russia needs the rest of the world to understand her logic. We need others to understand that the lives of the people of western Donbass are Russian lives, which the Kiev government is exterminating today under the patronage of Western instructors. Russian unions of journalists said nothing about the abuse of freedom of speech in Ferguson, nor did they comment the fact that Obama had done nothing to prevent the execution of James Foley. Colleagues, not that long ago you were so outraged about the detentions of political activists on Moscow’s Triumfalnaya Square. Washington officials, declaring the new cold war on Russia, do not realize that we have been studying their logic for a quarter of a century, and we can work in synch with the State Department now. In Russia, there are many specialists, who understand the logic of the United States. Washington officials can dictate anything to the elites that they bought. Yet, we all know: elite is one thing, and people is a completely different thing. When the views of elite come into sharp confrontation with the views of people, then people overthrow elites. “The king is naked!” – many will shout this in different parts of the world as a result of America’s new Cold War on Russia. Washington does not understand that here lies the end of its power. It always happens like that.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:31 pm

    Energy War Game: Syrian Turmoil, Ukrainian Coup Two Sides of the Same Coin

    The Syrian civil war and the Ukrainian coup of 2014 are parts of one and the same "energy war" game started by the Western political and financial elite, US political analyst Phil Butler told Sputnik, adding that Georgia is the central piece in this game.

    Both the Syrian civil war and the Ukrainian coup are actually two sides of the same coin — both are used by Western political and financial elites in their grand "energy war" game, political scientist and expert on Eastern Europe Phil Butler notes.

    "This is absolutely the case, as we can clearly see. The same methodology is present not only in the Ukraine-EU-NATO intervention, and in the CIA-Ossetia-Georgia-NATO strategy, but in the current situation in Syria as well," Butler told Sputnik.

    Georgia is playing a crucial role in the game, the expert emphasized. Conflicts which erupted in the post-Soviet space in the recent years are deeply interrelated.

    "It is no coincidence that Georgia's highly controversial ex-president is now in charge of Odessa. In the days and weeks to come we will see more clearly this new Cold War against Russia played out. Look for the "West" to attempt to reinstall Odessa's Governor, Georgian Mikheil Saakashvili in power in Tbilisi. Just this afternoon Sputnik reported the mayoral election documents being seized by police in Ukraine. There's more to come, I assure you," the political scientist underscored.

    But what is the cornerstone of the new Cold War game? Is it all about natural gas routes?

    "The so-called "New Cold War" is not completely about "gas", but it is about what natural resources can buy. Ukraine as a transit or supply route for Russian or any gas from the East, this does play a vital role. However important we make Ukraine or Syria though, it is Georgia that is the central piece in this "energy war" game," Butler pointed out.

    "The equation is fairly simple actually. Russia and to a lesser extent Iran, have both been curtailed and held back for decades, via sanctions and other methodologies. They were held back by the so-called West. This is not rocket science. Now the key variables come totally into view thought. Discoveries only recently of the sixth largest natural gas field on Earth, in Georgia, tell us where all the conflict comes from. Russia, along with Iran, and especially with these new Georgia deposits found, control more than 50% of the remaining gas reserves on Earth. This says nothing about other resources. I think anybody with any common sense at all will follow these facts to the truth," the expert elaborated.

    Meanwhile, some experts say the Russian military operation in Syria can be used by NATO war strategists to drive a wedge between Ankara and Moscow. And here it is seemingly "all about natural resources" again. On December 1, 2014 Russian President Putin announced the proposed Turkish Stream project — an alternative to the South Stream, which was earlier downplayed and undermined by both Washington and Brussels.

    Is it possible that a potential political confrontation between Moscow and Ankara over Russia's Syrian airstrikes could ruin the Turkish Stream project?

    "I think Russia's (Putin's) play in Syria is perfect by design. If Turkey does not fall in line with Russia and Iran, the so-called "South Stream" will pass that nation by. Look at it this way, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Russia and probably the entire Caucasus region… why does anybody need Turkey in that geo-strategy?" Butler noted with a touch of irony.

    By now, both the Washington-instigated Ukrainian regime change and the Syrian turmoil have not borne the fruit Western politicians were expecting. Russia's economy is up and running, Moscow is establishing new alliances and deepening the existing ones, the country is gaining considerable prestige globally despite the anti-Russian propaganda campaign.

    What other political or economic instruments could the Western elite use against Russia?

    "Washington and London have very few options left, in my opinion," Butler underscored.

    "I fail to include Frankfurt or Rome in this because both of those centers will fall in line with whoever they see as the winner in this energy war. Washington and her cohorts can continue to print bribe money to incite revolution. Or, the smart players underneath this game can come to terms with one undeniable fact. Russia sits on all the cards… When the world needs energy 50 years from now, guess where they will get it from? I'll give you a hint, it won't be from a fracked out oil well in Texas. It's time our nations began thinking about truly sustainable energy, and truly sustainable peace," the political scientist told Sputnik.

    "But I am sure the dinosaurs in think tanks in the West will still puff their cigars, in their leather chairs, among all those law books, and push some more of the same buttons for a while. As for Mr. Putin, he and his advisers have so far done the best anybody could for their people," Phil Butler stressed.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151028/1029244271/syrian-war-ukrainian-coup-parts-energy-war.html#ixzz3q3NSmp4d


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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:42 pm

    Sweden Adopts Cold War Military Strategy, Ramps Up Against Russian ‘Threat’

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160318/1036495162/sweden-adopts-cold-war-military-strategy.html#ixzz43GWzsCI1


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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:06 pm

    George1 wrote:Sweden Adopts Cold War Military Strategy, Ramps Up Against Russian ‘Threat’

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160318/1036495162/sweden-adopts-cold-war-military-strategy.html#ixzz43GWzsCI1

    Russia needs to adopt a NATO quarantine strategy. This includes winding down all economic links with the EU. In particular,
    fossil fuel exports. Let the EU and its collection of retard deciders eat US LNG cake and choke on it. Imports from NATO are
    a security threat to Russia since NATO can at any time cut them off. If at some stage the EU reduces the sanctions on Russia,
    Russia must impose new sanctions to maintain the atrophy of imports from the EU.

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    Who is building the Intermarium?

    Post  par far on Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:03 pm

    We all know the US is behind this, how can Russia deal with this?

    https://southfront.org/intermarium-a-hare-brained-scheme-whose-time-has-come/


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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:15 pm

    Stand back and laugh. These nations all dislike each other from one point or another. They cannot stand each other, what makes you think they can work together? Add to that, seems they have their own little ambitions too, like Ukraine wanting dominance.

    These countries will end up being just some piss poor block of has beens living a dream but barely cooperating.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  par far on Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:56 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Stand back and laugh. These nations all dislike each other from one point or another. They cannot stand each other, what makes you think they can work together? Add to that, seems they have their own little ambitions too, like Ukraine wanting dominance.

    These countries will end up being just some piss poor block of has beens living a dream but barely cooperating.


    Also, I don't think they have economies that can handle all their dreams, am I right in saying that they depend, somewhat to a lot on the Russian economy and if Russia wanted they can somewhat collapse their economies?

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:06 pm

    par far wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Stand back and laugh. These nations all dislike each other from one point or another. They cannot stand each other, what makes you think they can work together? Add to that, seems they have their own little ambitions too, like Ukraine wanting dominance.

    These countries will end up being just some piss poor block of has beens living a dream but barely cooperating.


    Also, I don't think they have economies that can handle all their dreams, am I right in saying that they depend, somewhat to a lot on the Russian economy and if Russia wanted they can somewhat collapse their economies?
    Well, Ukraine relied majority of its exports to Russia as its non-resource based goods are not wanted/demanded outside besides some middle eastern countries, and other industries like metallurgy is going to get snuffed out by competition.

    Poland is less dependent but the baltic nations are quite dependent on sales to Russia for end goods and transportation. Now that transportation has dried up and competition from China's investors that invested in new manufacturing in Russia (as well as European countries), the baltics are losing out big time. Biggest sales was agriculture as well, now that is gone for them.

    Essentially, they are living off of debt and borrowed money + Rent. But the biggest restraint is what I mentioned and even hinted in the article about their dreams on who will rule who in the little group.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  KiloGolf on Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:25 am

    I love this guy Cohen. I've been listening/watching him since Maidan coup.


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    Why Russia loses to America?

    Post  Resistance on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:36 pm

    Unlike America's policy of regime change, which happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Syria, Russia's policy is friendship. After the Maidan coup, Poroshenko would have been overthrown by the people in a revolution. If was Putin who legitimized the coup government and prevented Ukrainian people from toppling Poroshenko. As a result, thousands of Ukrainians and Russians continue to die, the war continues on.

    Americans are atheists. They use Sun Tzu's strategy of deception to lie to Russians and win. Russians are Christians. Cannot lie. So Russians get tricked by Americans over and over again and lose. First USSR, then NATO on border, then Yugoslavia, then Iraq, then Libya, then Ukraine, then Syria.

    Putin should take a page from the Iranians. Smile on face. Stick in hand. That is the best foreign policy.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Resistance on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:46 pm

    Wrong place. Please move this to International Politics forum. Thanks.

    http://www.russiadefence.net/f14-international-politics-forum

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Resistance on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:56 pm

    USSR - dissolve then NATO will dissolve. Lied. USSR dissolved. NATO expanded to border.

    Iraq - chemical weapons. Lied.

    Libya - no fly zone. Lied. Turned into bombing zone

    Ukraine - ceasefire. Lied. Poroshenko continues bombing civilians in Donbas.

    Syria - ceasefire with moderate rebels. Lied. Moderate rebels are embedded in Qaeda.

    It's ridiculous how many times Russians got played by Americans. Even kindergarten children would be ashamed. Pardon my frankness. Yet, Putin still says Americans are friends when in reality Americans are enemies who are scheming to kill Putin and break up Russia.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:49 pm

    Introduce yourself first here please. It is forum's rule

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:12 am

    Russia certainly got played over Libya and Gaddafi paid with his life and the Libyan people are now enjoying the democracy and peace the west has brought to them...

    Regarding your other comments... so you think Russia should act like the US?

    WTF for?

    So it can "win"?

    If that is what it takes to win then I am glad they do not win... for them to win is to recreate another US... we don't need a new US... we need a real alternative to the US... which is what I hope Russia and many other countries like China and India become.


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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:13 am

    BTW... 39 posts and no introduction... you are pushing it.


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    Post  Project Canada on Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:59 am

    GarryB wrote:Russia certainly got played over Libya and Gaddafi paid with his life and the Libyan people are now enjoying the democracy and peace the west has brought to them...

    Regarding your other comments... so you think Russia should act like the US?

    WTF for?

    So it can "win"?

    If that is what it takes to win then I am glad they do not win... for them to win is to recreate another US... we don't need a new US... we need a real alternative to the US... which is what I hope Russia and many other countries like China and India become.


    If they dont win then the US wins, US needs to be demolished and replaced by a new power.

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    Post  Project Canada on Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:54 pm

    When will the US economy implode?? Researchers/Forecasters always say its economy is unsustainable, will crash etc etc but when will this finally happen?? is it possible in our lifetime? I can't want to see the USA burn to the ground.

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    Post  DerWolf on Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:11 pm

    Project Canada wrote:When will the US economy implode?? Researchers/Forecasters always say its economy is unsustainable, will crash etc etc but when will this finally happen?? is it possible in our lifetime? I can't want to see the USA burn to the ground.

    They have since a long time they say US economy will go down, and i personally think that all these event that we are seeing, the build-up in eastern Europe, the missile shield, tensions with China are as a consenguence of the dollar crises.

    Anyway i didn't get, do u like u see US burn to the ground or not?

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    Post  Project Canada on Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:39 pm

    DerWolf wrote:
    Project Canada wrote:When will the US economy implode?? Researchers/Forecasters always say its economy is unsustainable, will crash etc etc but when will this finally happen?? is it possible in our lifetime? I can't want to see the USA burn to the ground.

    They have since a long time they say US economy will go down, and i personally think that all these event that we are seeing, the build-up in eastern Europe, the missile shield, tensions with China are as a consenguence of the dollar crises.

    Anyway i didn't get, do u like u see US burn to the ground or not?

    to be honest, all I wanted is a balance of power between USA and Russia, just like in the cold war, but now things are getting out of balance especially with NATO taking advantage of a not so powerful Russia. if this continues then yes, unfortunately, the USA should collapse and a world power/powers should take over the leading role in the world. as a bonus I would like to see the decline and total demise of radical islamism as well.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:17 pm

    Project Canada wrote:I can't want to see the USA burn to the ground.

    You can't be serious Rolling Eyes
    Is this a typo? did you mean to say "wait" here?

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Mattke on Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:19 am

    The USA has the money, has the international media on its side and USA own the EU-puppetstates, hence why the USA is stronger currently.

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