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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:52 am

    GarryB wrote:
    WASHINGTON, (Sputnik) — Washington announced additional visa restrictions against Venezuelan officials and their families tied to human rights violations and corruption, according to the statement released by the US Department of State.

    Venezuela should do the same for all US officials in the current administration and the one before it for their complicity in kidnapping and torture and illegal detention... and indeed on spying on the entire worlds population.

    What's even crazier is that they're now grasping straws and trying to associated Venezuela with WMD's:

    'Venezuelan Bomb Plot' a Figment of FBI's–and US Media's–Imagination

    ...To take their oil...err, I mean bring democracy to them!
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:18 am

    Blaming russia for their false flag on ukraine...make enemy
    Blaming North Korea for some shit sony crap movie with a false flag hack/hoax....making an enemy to the public again
    Blaming Venezuela with a Hoax after Iran and Iraq of nuclear weapons...while backing up and vetoing every UN resolution against Israels illegal nukes... and some people have the guts to say Israel does not controll US foreign policy.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:26 pm

    Russia to Give ‘Adequate’ Response to NATO’s Expansion

    According to the Russian envoy to NATO, the "serious changes in the military-political situation" along the Russian border will "naturally" lead to changes in Russia's military planning, aimed at ensuring the country's security.

    BRUSSELS (Sputnik) – NATO's recent decision to set up additional command centers in six different countries will inevitably lead to "adequate" changes in Russia's military planning, the country's envoy to the alliance, Alexander Grushko, has told Russian journalists.

    "The opening up of additional military potential along our borders is nothing more than an attempt to exert pressure on Russia," Grushko said, adding that Russia's response will be "adequate" in any case.

    According to the envoy, the "serious changes in the military-political situation" along the Russian border will "naturally" lead to changes in Russia's military planning, aimed at ensuring the country's security.

    On Thursday, the defense ministers of NATO member-states agreed on the creation of six new command and control posts in Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Romania during a meeting in Brussels. The ministers also announced that NATO's Response Force would be doubled to include up to 30,000 people.

    NATO Chief Admits Russia Poses No Threat to Baltic States, Eastern Europe
    The decision "creates a great risk for Russia", primarily in the Baltics, which could become a region of "military confrontation", Grushko stressed.

    On Thursday, the defense ministers of NATO member-states agreed on the creation of six new command and control posts in Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Romania during a meeting in Brussels. The ministers also announced that NATO's Response Force would be doubled to include up to 30,000 people.

    The decision "creates a great risk for Russia", primarily in the Baltics, which could become a region of "military confrontation", Grushko stressed.

    The envoy added that the creation of a joint training center in Georgia, announced by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Thursday, will also contribute to geopolitical tensions and the aggravation of regional security.

    "The training center in Georgia is a step that cannot be considered anything but provocation. There is no necessity for NATO to create any [training] centers," Grushko said, stressing that countries in the Black Sea region are capable of ensuring their own security.

    Stoltenberg said at a press conference Thursday, following the Brussels meeting of NATO defense ministers, that the training center, to be set up in the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, will train both Georgian and NATO troops.

    NATO's growing presence in Eastern Europe has been the subject of geopolitical tensions, with Russia having expressed growing concern over the buildup of NATO forces along its western border.

    NATO, which has accused Russia of being involved in the Ukrainian crisis, claims that the expansion is aimed at protecting its member-states and allies.

    NATO Weapon Supplies to Ukraine Would Lead to ‘Unpredictable’ Consequences


    If NATO decides to give lethal aid to Kiev, which continues to fight independence supporters in the southeast, it could have "unpredictable" results, Alexander Grushko, has stressed.

    "NATO tells us that it does not supply anything, that lethal arms are not being supplied [to Ukraine]. The NATO leadership draws a line between supplies from the alliance and declares that NATO does not have weapons, all weapons are national, there are no NATO systems per se…however, from the perspective of the situation on the ground there would be no difference whether weapons would be supplied by NATO or separate NATO member-states," Grushko told Russian journalists.

    "In either case, we presume that these deliveries are unacceptable, they would significantly aggravate the situation [in Ukraine] and could lead to the most dangerous and unpredictable consequences", the envoy stressed.

    NATO allies disagree about providing lethal aid to Kiev that launched a military operation against independence supporters in Ukraine's southeast last spring.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel confirmed Tuesday that Germany will not provide weapons to Ukraine and will pursue a peaceful solution to the military conflict. However, US Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain continues to urge the Obama administration to provide Ukraine with lethal assistance.

    On Tuesday, Denis Pushilin, the negotiator of the self-proclaimed people's republic of Donetsk (DPR) at the Minsk talks on Ukrainian reconciliation announced that shells with NATO markings have been used in Horlivka in southeastern Ukraine.

    Pushilin also said that US warfare tactics are being used by Kiev forces that are fighting independence supporters in the region.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150206/1017858328.html#ixzz3Qy13kz5l
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:13 pm

    Russia, China Not to Accept America’s Vassalage Status Despite US Pressure

    The US is playing with fire by instigating a military standoff off Russian and Chinese borders, while neither the South China Sea nor Ukraine can be considered America’s backyards; Washington needs to understand that neither Russia nor China will accept its vassalage status, according to the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia.

    The bipolar world ended with the end of the Cold War, the US attempt of a unipolar world has ended up in fiasco, but what is now being suggested as true pluralism and consensus in international relations, is seen by the US as "uncertainty" and "danger", which must be ended by force, the newspaper correspondent Rafael Poch wrote in his blog.

    Washington is now committed to blocking the rise of two large nuclear-armed countries, the journalist says, echoing US economist and a columnist Paul Craig Roberts who served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration.

    To restrain Russia, the US has created the crisis in Ukraine.

    China is now confronted with the Pivot to Asia and the construction of new US naval and air bases to ensure Washington’s control of the South China Sea, now defined as an area of American national interests.

    Just last week US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter announced the US New Maritime Security Initiative at the Shangri-La Dialogue, Asia’s premier security summit held annually in Singapore.

    It comes as ‘the next phase’ of the US rebalances to the Asia-Pacific.

    As it is done with Russia, the bloggers explains, the US regularly resorts to the provocative practice of sending aircraft and warships on patrol just within the limits of the areas of its adversary, which generates constant tensions in the regions.

    Washington however needs to understand that neither Russia nor China will yield to the US pressure and won’t accept the vassalage status prepared for them by the US, as did Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20150606/1023034681.html#ixzz3cIqLgkHo
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:42 pm

    The idiots in Washington think their sanctions games and saber rattling will somehow cut off China and Russia from
    advancing. This is epic retardation. All that will happen is that the USA and its EU vassals will shrivel up as the
    global economy moves on and leaves them behind.

    It is important to point out that NATO and close associates about for half of the world's GDP (I will give the western
    sources of this information the benefit of the doubt and assume they are not inflated numbers). Back during the
    1970s this block accounted for almost 75% of the world's GDP. Clearly the Washington retards are stuck in the
    past and think nothing has changed.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:22 pm

    US Would 'Stand Up' to Russian Revival of Soviet Sphere of Influence

    The United States is not going to make an enemy out of Russia, but will counter any effort by Moscow to reestablish the Soviet sphere of influence, US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said in a speech at the Atlantik Brucke (Atlantic Bridge) conference in Berlin.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The Defense Secretary claimed Russia had flouted international law, and destabilized the European security order by annexing Crimea and allegedly supporting continuing violence in eastern Ukraine.

    “We do not seek a cold, let alone a hot war with Russia. We do not seek to make Russia an enemy. But make no mistake, we will defend our allies… We will stand up to Russia's actions and their attempts to reestablish a Soviet-era sphere of influence.”

    Since Crimea’s reunification with Russia, Carter asserted, the United States, NATO and the European Union (EU) “have made clear to Russia that its aggressive actions have no place in today's world.”

    Russia, however, contends NATO has relentlessly expanded eastward breaking solemn commitments given by US leaders before the collapse of the Soviet Union, increasing the threat-level on its borders.

    Moscow has pointed out it is the United States and the European Union that supported the violent coup toppling Ukraine’s democratically-elected President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014, and this set off the secession of Ukraine’s two eastern provinces of Lugansk and Donetsk.

    Since then, the Kiev successor regime of President Petro Poroshenko, backed by Washington, has used heavy artillery and air attacks against cities and villages in Eastern Ukraine.

    Moreover, Russia has pointed out that more than 90 percent of Crimea’s voters chose to reunify with Russia through a democratic referendum.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150623/1023724197.html#ixzz3dulXaqPh
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:25 pm

    What's so bad about re-establishing "the Soviet sphere of influence"? Nothing says it will be anti-democratic except for the
    fake NATO "democracies" who are all imperial vassals of the USA. NATO does not get to decide for the rest of the planet what
    is important and how they should live. It is time for NATO to be contained. These clowns have been attempting to dominate
    the planet for centuries. They have a clear record of evil that is also still very much active.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Rodinazombie on Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:40 am

    kvs wrote:What's so bad about re-establishing "the Soviet sphere of influence"?   Nothing says it will be anti-democratic except for the
    fake NATO "democracies" who are all imperial vassals of the USA.   NATO does not get to decide for the rest of the planet what
    is important and how they should live.   It is time for NATO to be contained.    These clowns have been attempting to dominate
    the planet for centuries.   They have a clear record of evil that is also still very much active.

    I have no issue with nato existing, a cohesive organisation that unites the majority of european states gives the continent a level of security and stability never before seen in history. The problem begins when nato believes it must constantly expand and take in new members and believs it can do whatever it wants with nobody to oppose it. You need an opposite force to push back and keep it in check. Since the breakup of the ussr this brief period of a unipolar world has given the US and nato the erroneous belief that they have the god given right to rule the world alone for all time. They will get the message, eventually. But there will be plently of blood, sweat, tears and lots of hysteria coming out of the white house and nato before then.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Captain Nemo on Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:43 pm

    The US goal is not to prevent the restablishment of "the Soviet sphere of influence" but to cut Russia economically and politically from its neigbours and prevent the creation of an economic alliance that could function independently from the US sphere of influence.

    From an US perspective, countries, and moreover alliances, that are independent from US effective hegemony are a bad thing.

    Since the US understood that it could eventually lose its dominant position in the World, it seems to have decided to prevent this outcome at all costs, and becomes more and more active, even agressive in attempts to counter any chain of events that would weaken its dominant global position.

    I remember the TV debate about security with McCain in Obama's first campaign.

    He stated that increasing economic ties between China and South America represent a security (!) threat to the United States...

    No one in the US or Western media found this statement problematic. (The Chinese also kept quiet, probably to avoid "influencing" the campaign).

    BTW. economic ties of South America with China are a "security threat" for the USA, but the expansion of NATO, attempts to cut economic ties with neighbours and sabotage Russian efforts to create its own economic alliances would not represent a security threat to Russia, and Russia has no reasons to worry...

    Interestingly, Brzezinski aso appeared on TV (CNN or CNBC, I don't remember) during that first campaign, and higly praised Obama for having read all his books and "was impressed" how well he understood and agreed with the geostrategic concepts in his books. (Let's remind that in his books, he advocates the dismembering of Russia among other things - for the "good of Russia" of course - to "free its creativity"... )

    Unfortunately, I can't find that interview on Youtube, but here is a speech where Obama praises Brzezinski as the greatest US intellectual / thinker of our times:

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    That speech is clearly a reassurance to some circles of power that he will not deviate from the US hegemonic strategic line.


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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:01 am

    http://fortruss.blogspot.ru/2015/09/putin-critic-navalny-exposed-as.html

    Former adviser to the Kirov Region Governor, Alexei Navalny, has reported on his general work and campaign trail to American diplomats, we are told by Cyril Strelnikov. He personally visited the informal meeting of the members of the RPR-Parnassus, which was attended by foreign guests.

    The US is brazen in its support for sedition in Russia. Russia needs to act accordingly.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:16 pm



    The Al Nusra alleged photograph of Russian jets is a total fake.  

    The source of the above is from a poster, Drutten, on Mark Chapman's blog called Kremlin Stooge.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:28 am

    Vladimir Alexeyevich Braginski Xie wrote:Russia can win Cold War

    We have entered a new stage of the Cold War with the United States. This can be seen in remarks expressed by leading American politicians, political scientists and numerous articles. Russian officials still prefer to use more abstract expressions and definitions. The Russian cult of hunger for justice still tries to prove something in the debate about what is happening in Ukraine. Obviously, the new cold war has started again because of Russia’s belief in the power of a simple handshake. If leaders shake hands, it means that we do not have “black thoughts,” nor do we prepare any treacherous attacks on opposite number. This is what we, the Russians, thought. They were shaking our hand as the hand of an opponent that was defeated in the previous cold war. Smiling their dazzling Hollywood smiles, American leaders were moving their military-political bloc eastwards, closer to Russia’s borders. We were wondering: Russia and America were friends, damn it, we shared common democratic values. Vladimir Putin once suggested Russia should join NATO and EU. In return, Russia could only see American smiles against the background of ideological and military offensive, as the Americans were deploying more and more of their military bases closer and closer to our borders. Now, in hindsight, we understand that there was one goal: Russian energy resources (how primitive, some will say). Yet, energy resources – oil, coal, gas – stand above all for those who thought of themselves as masters of the world after the collapse of the bipolar system. Russia, from their point of view, is just a big fat land of cash that has to be appropriated. If the current Ukrainian authorities think of themselves as masters of the universe, they are sadly mistaken. Their country, and all events that are now happening there, serves as a bargaining chip in the global game for Russian resources. There is shale gas in Ukraine too. In the area of Luhansk and Donetsk, Washington does not bother to think of civilians, because all those people will die anyway, when the extraction of shale gas begins. As for the new stage of the war between Russia and the USA – the war has been going on for all these years. Last century, Russia offered quite a correct approach to the issue of mutually beneficial cooperation: Russia cuts prices on energy carriers, and the West gives Russia technology. America showed Russia the finger. America was attracting Russian scientists, declining technologies. Noteworthy, the USA has only 30 percent of scientists, who received education in the USA. I’ve been asking myself: were we stupid all this time? And the answer is – no, of course not. We were trying to proceed from what was hammered into our heads during the perestroika period. We were proceeding from academician Sakharov’s ideas of the unified world that would be so much better than the world divided into blocs. American politicians were proceeding from different things. Remember the remarks from, Hillary Clinton, who will always be referred to as anti-Monica, who said that Siberia should by rights belong to the world (i.e. to America). That is, Russia was always seen as a victim that should be snatched up and torn apart. Vladimir Putin, as a pragmatist, was doing one very important thing. He was trying, even at the cost of losses, to build the country into the structure of world economy. One can see from Moscow’s very restrained sanctions against the West that he managed to make Europe react sharply to Russia’s dissatisfaction. Russia can impose other sectoral sanctions on the West. Needless to say that the field of energy is the main trump card, but there are lots of other sanctions that Russia can use. This is where we begin to understand the true meaning of president’s actions that were seen as his deviation from short-term interests of Russian business. Today, announcing retaliatory sanctions on certain sectors of economy, Russia is striking a sensitive blow on the political supremacy of the United States in Europe. The USA declared a new Cold War on Russia. Fine. Russia has not started this war yet, in America’s vulnerable field. We still have not used so-called Helsinki groups. Hello, Ms. Lyudmila Alekseeva? If you continue to remain silent on what has been happening in Ferguson, all Russians will think of you as a vulgar hireling of the US State Department! All your excuses that you think only of Russia sound very cheap, because human rights have no national boundaries. We have not used the funding for the activity of Rossotrudnichestvo (Russian Cooperation), which still believes that it is vitally important to hold concerts, distribute booklets about Russia and tell stories about the studies of the Russian language. Mr. Konstantin Kosachev, Russia needs the rest of the world to understand her logic. We need others to understand that the lives of the people of western Donbass are Russian lives, which the Kiev government is exterminating today under the patronage of Western instructors. Russian unions of journalists said nothing about the abuse of freedom of speech in Ferguson, nor did they comment the fact that Obama had done nothing to prevent the execution of James Foley. Colleagues, not that long ago you were so outraged about the detentions of political activists on Moscow’s Triumfalnaya Square. Washington officials, declaring the new cold war on Russia, do not realize that we have been studying their logic for a quarter of a century, and we can work in synch with the State Department now. In Russia, there are many specialists, who understand the logic of the United States. Washington officials can dictate anything to the elites that they bought. Yet, we all know: elite is one thing, and people is a completely different thing. When the views of elite come into sharp confrontation with the views of people, then people overthrow elites. “The king is naked!” – many will shout this in different parts of the world as a result of America’s new Cold War on Russia. Washington does not understand that here lies the end of its power. It always happens like that.

    http://unreportedtruth.com/russia-can-win-cold-war/
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:42 pm

    Sweden Adopts Cold War Military Strategy, Ramps Up Against Russian ‘Threat’

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160318/1036495162/sweden-adopts-cold-war-military-strategy.html#ixzz43GWzsCI1
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  kvs on Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:06 pm

    George1 wrote:Sweden Adopts Cold War Military Strategy, Ramps Up Against Russian ‘Threat’

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160318/1036495162/sweden-adopts-cold-war-military-strategy.html#ixzz43GWzsCI1

    Russia needs to adopt a NATO quarantine strategy. This includes winding down all economic links with the EU. In particular,
    fossil fuel exports. Let the EU and its collection of retard deciders eat US LNG cake and choke on it. Imports from NATO are
    a security threat to Russia since NATO can at any time cut them off. If at some stage the EU reduces the sanctions on Russia,
    Russia must impose new sanctions to maintain the atrophy of imports from the EU.

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    Who is building the Intermarium?

    Post  par far on Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:03 pm

    We all know the US is behind this, how can Russia deal with this?

    https://southfront.org/intermarium-a-hare-brained-scheme-whose-time-has-come/

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:15 pm

    Stand back and laugh. These nations all dislike each other from one point or another. They cannot stand each other, what makes you think they can work together? Add to that, seems they have their own little ambitions too, like Ukraine wanting dominance.

    These countries will end up being just some piss poor block of has beens living a dream but barely cooperating.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  par far on Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:56 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Stand back and laugh. These nations all dislike each other from one point or another. They cannot stand each other, what makes you think they can work together? Add to that, seems they have their own little ambitions too, like Ukraine wanting dominance.

    These countries will end up being just some piss poor block of has beens living a dream but barely cooperating.


    Also, I don't think they have economies that can handle all their dreams, am I right in saying that they depend, somewhat to a lot on the Russian economy and if Russia wanted they can somewhat collapse their economies?
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:06 pm

    par far wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Stand back and laugh. These nations all dislike each other from one point or another. They cannot stand each other, what makes you think they can work together? Add to that, seems they have their own little ambitions too, like Ukraine wanting dominance.

    These countries will end up being just some piss poor block of has beens living a dream but barely cooperating.


    Also, I don't think they have economies that can handle all their dreams, am I right in saying that they depend, somewhat to a lot on the Russian economy and if Russia wanted they can somewhat collapse their economies?
    Well, Ukraine relied majority of its exports to Russia as its non-resource based goods are not wanted/demanded outside besides some middle eastern countries, and other industries like metallurgy is going to get snuffed out by competition.

    Poland is less dependent but the baltic nations are quite dependent on sales to Russia for end goods and transportation. Now that transportation has dried up and competition from China's investors that invested in new manufacturing in Russia (as well as European countries), the baltics are losing out big time. Biggest sales was agriculture as well, now that is gone for them.

    Essentially, they are living off of debt and borrowed money + Rent. But the biggest restraint is what I mentioned and even hinted in the article about their dreams on who will rule who in the little group.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  KiloGolf on Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:25 am

    I love this guy Cohen. I've been listening/watching him since Maidan coup.


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    Why Russia loses to America?

    Post  Resistance on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:36 pm

    Unlike America's policy of regime change, which happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Syria, Russia's policy is friendship. After the Maidan coup, Poroshenko would have been overthrown by the people in a revolution. If was Putin who legitimized the coup government and prevented Ukrainian people from toppling Poroshenko. As a result, thousands of Ukrainians and Russians continue to die, the war continues on.

    Americans are atheists. They use Sun Tzu's strategy of deception to lie to Russians and win. Russians are Christians. Cannot lie. So Russians get tricked by Americans over and over again and lose. First USSR, then NATO on border, then Yugoslavia, then Iraq, then Libya, then Ukraine, then Syria.

    Putin should take a page from the Iranians. Smile on face. Stick in hand. That is the best foreign policy.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Resistance on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:56 pm

    USSR - dissolve then NATO will dissolve. Lied. USSR dissolved. NATO expanded to border.

    Iraq - chemical weapons. Lied.

    Libya - no fly zone. Lied. Turned into bombing zone

    Ukraine - ceasefire. Lied. Poroshenko continues bombing civilians in Donbas.

    Syria - ceasefire with moderate rebels. Lied. Moderate rebels are embedded in Qaeda.

    It's ridiculous how many times Russians got played by Americans. Even kindergarten children would be ashamed. Pardon my frankness. Yet, Putin still says Americans are friends when in reality Americans are enemies who are scheming to kill Putin and break up Russia.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:12 am

    Russia certainly got played over Libya and Gaddafi paid with his life and the Libyan people are now enjoying the democracy and peace the west has brought to them...

    Regarding your other comments... so you think Russia should act like the US?

    WTF for?

    So it can "win"?

    If that is what it takes to win then I am glad they do not win... for them to win is to recreate another US... we don't need a new US... we need a real alternative to the US... which is what I hope Russia and many other countries like China and India become.
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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:13 am

    BTW... 39 posts and no introduction... you are pushing it.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Project Canada on Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:59 am

    GarryB wrote:Russia certainly got played over Libya and Gaddafi paid with his life and the Libyan people are now enjoying the democracy and peace the west has brought to them...

    Regarding your other comments... so you think Russia should act like the US?

    WTF for?

    So it can "win"?

    If that is what it takes to win then I am glad they do not win... for them to win is to recreate another US... we don't need a new US... we need a real alternative to the US... which is what I hope Russia and many other countries like China and India become.


    If they dont win then the US wins, US needs to be demolished and replaced by a new power.

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    Re: Cold War II

    Post  Project Canada on Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:54 pm

    When will the US economy implode?? Researchers/Forecasters always say its economy is unsustainable, will crash etc etc but when will this finally happen?? is it possible in our lifetime? I can't want to see the USA burn to the ground.

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