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    Chengdu J-10

    Post  milky_candy_sugar on Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:49 am

    Jian-10B Multirole Fighter Aircraft

    The J-10B is a modified variant of the J-10 multirole fighter aircraft, with modifications in airframe and avionics. Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of AVIC began to develop a follow-on variant of its J-10 fighter around 2004/05. A J-10B prototype reportedly made its maiden flight in December 2008. Photos of the aircraft began to emerge on the Chinese Internet in March 2009. Once commissioned, the J-10B is likely going to become the standard for later J-10 productions.
    Rampless Inlet

    The J-10B features a chin-mounted diffuser supersonic inlet (DSI) air inlet. The traditional rectangle-shape air inlet on the J-10 requires a large moveable inlet ramp to generate a rearward leaning oblique shock wave to aid the inlet compression process. The ramp sits at an acute angle to deflect the intake air stream from the longitudinal direction. The air inlets comprises many moving parts, which increases the aircraft’s weight and radar reflections.

    The newly designed rampless inlet, first tested on the FC-1/JF-17 fighter design by Chengdu, employs a one-piece bump at the top of the inlet replacing the movable ramp. This eliminates all moving parts on the inlet, lightening the overall weight and reducing the aircraft’s radar signature.

    Electro-Optic Targeting System

    The J-10B has been added with an electronic-optic targeting system (EOTS) commonly found on all fourth-generation Russian fighter aircraft such as Su-27 and MiG-29. Placed forward of the cockpit canopy to the right, the system comprises an infrared search and track (IRST) sensor and a laser rangefinder, which can detect enemy targets passively without requiring to turn on the fire-control radar, thus reducing the chance of the aircraft being detected. The EOTS of the J-10B is likely based on a Russian design.

    Tailfin ECM Pod

    The upper edge of J-10B’s tailfin is curved, in contrast to the straight-edged tailfin of the J-10. A large fairing is added to the tip of the tailfin to accommodate electronic warfare and countermeasures (EW/ECM) equipment.

    ECM Antenna Array

    The J-10B has four black antenna arrays attached externally to the fuselage, a larger one on either side of the cockpit and a smaller one on either side of the rear fuselage near the engine nozzle. The specific purpose of these antennas is unknown but they are thought to be for electronic countermeasures purpose.

    http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/j10b.asp


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    Jian-10B Multirole Fighter Aircraft

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:01 pm

    The intention of the J-10B was for China to make a 4th generation fighter as the current J-10 is a 3+ gen. Chinese avionics are not making any sells, even to Pakistan or Burma. The engines they still cannot make.

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    J-10 has Russian radar?

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:22 am

    One is represented at the air show - the fourth-generation combat aircraft J-10. It was created with the help of Russia. He wears a Russian engine, the Russian radar, but overall this is a demonstration of certain success of Chinese aviation industry, the spokesman said.

    http://vpk.name/news/46739_obem_rabot_po_obsluzhivaniyu_istrebitelei_su_v_kitae_sostavlyaet_sotni_millionov_dollarov.html

    Must be a Zhuk

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:01 pm

    the radar is believed to be comparable to the early 1990s-era Western fighter radar designs. Alternatively the J-10 could be fitted with a fire-control radar introduced by Russian manufacturers.
    http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/j10.asp

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:36 pm

    Well that settles that, J-10 has Russian radar.

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:39 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:Well that settles that, J-10 has Russian radar.
    what about j20??
    will russia help them too??

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  Viktor on Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:41 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:Well that settles that, J-10 has Russian radar.

    Yea ... some old one, Chinese would said "modernized" LOL

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  Russian Patriot on Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:18 pm

    more like "copyed" from A Russian Version.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:38 pm

    Russian Patriot wrote:more like "copyed" from A Russian Version.

    The comment was made by Deputy Director Sukhoi. It has neither copied engines or radar apparently. China still buys our turbofans, infact looking to buy 117S.

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  nightcrawler on Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:56 pm




    J-10 has a lot bunch of radar guided missiles & I doubt they can be integrated with Russian provided radars; or are the Russians so open so as to provide the source-codes as well for proper integration; because in no way the Chinese warplanes are using the Russian missiles as is the case with Indians. Engines are provided by the Russians; but work is still going on with the W10 Chinese turbofans & test flights already has taken place


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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:42 am

    J-11s use Chinese missiles and have Russian radar. It apparently isn't a problem. It shouldn't be since it is a matter of software. The source code on a radar that old is not a matter of national security.

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  KRON1 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:56 am

    nightcrawler wrote:

    I have seen Chinese HUDs, they are anything but holographic. No conformal fuel tanks, no AESA, I have seen that targeting pod, never seen a WS-10 on a J-10. Think they are too afraid to put it on a single engine plane.

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  IronsightSniper on Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:33 pm

    The fact that it looks like a sketching from an Etch a sketch implies that the drawing is what they're hoping for. Radar wise, could always buy a Zhuk.

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  nightcrawler on Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:04 pm

    Bill Sweetman from Aviation Weeks made some intresting points

    He thinks The JXX is almost as Big as F111 strike aircraft from the 1970s. JXX could be a long range strike plane rather than fighter

    The size is estimated at 75ft long far larger than both F22 & T50

    He also states This maynot be a genuine prototype and just a tech demonstrator like the (YF23) so could be some massive changes yet.

    The engine is stil russian powered and there is news that the chinease are haviing to rely on russian engines for all current fighters including J10 & J11B as well as JXX testing.

    Anyways here the 2 page analysis
    China's J-20 Stealth Fighter In Taxi Tests | AVIATION WEEK
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    By the way i still don't believe that Russians had given radar source codes to China; French never gave us the source codes to Mirage planes & we have been unable to integrate radar-homing SD-10 bvr with Mirages. So the olddy theory is just a fallacy. My speculation revolve around a domestic built albeit way too inferior Chinese radar.



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    Chengdu J-10:

    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:07 pm

    PLAAF has enough J-10B fighters for a regiment: report

    The J-10B, the upgraded variant of the J-10 fighter designed by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation, has been produced in sufficient numbers to equip a fighter regiment of the People's Liberation Army Air Force, according to China's Global Times.

    A photo on a Chinese military website showed the newest J-10B has 120 as its fuselage number. Photos of J-10Bs with the numbers 101, 102, 103, 104, 106, 107, 110, 120 and 201 have also been posted on the internet. Global Times said at least 20 J-10B fighters have been produced, enough for the PLAAF to equip a fighter regiment.

    Unlike its predecessor, the J-10B is powered by the upgraded WS-10B engine built domestically in China.

    The J-10B is also equipped with more advanced active electronically scanned array radar. It can not only carry air-to-air missiles as the PL-12, which the J-10A carries, but also the more powerful CM-400AKG supersonic missile which can be used against ground targets and enemy vessels. J-10B pilots may also use head-mounted displays to track and engage targets in aerial combat, Global Times said.

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:31 am

    China Starts Producing Fighters with Russian Engines

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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:32 pm

    J-10B fighter with Taihang engine made its first flight


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    Re: Chengdu J-10

    Post  Militarov on Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:53 am

    "A People’s Liberation Army Naval Air Force (PLANAF) from the 4th Division, 12th Air Regiment, crashed this evening in Zeguo town, Taizhou city, Zhejiang Province. Both pilots ejected safely. Postings on Chinese Internet suggests the aircraft’s Russian AL-31F engine failed in mid-air."







    Source: http://alert5.com/2015/12/17/planaf-j-10sh-from-4th-division-12th-air-regiment-crashed-today/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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