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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  navyfield on Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:17 pm

    better by 2120 , no need to rush things after all Laughing

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:03 am

    Sarcasm... or you finally unbunched your panties... hard to tell.

    I am guessing Sarcasm as those panties were right up in there... careful that sand could come out as marbles...


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:14 pm

    Can we already change the title of this thread to "Vagina Monologues"?

    Getting tired already.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:19 pm

    USC will give the Russian Navy 14 ships before the end of 2014

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:40 am

    Putin to discuss new Far East ship-building plant in Vladivostok November 13

    Vladimir Putin will also participate in a satellite TV link-up in a ceremony to commission the second hydropower unit of the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power plant

    MOSCOW, November 10. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin will chair a meeting over creation of a ship-building plant on the basis of the far eastern Zvezda shipyard on November 13, the Kremlin press service said Monday.

    An industrial center to produce marine machinery and equipment for prospecting, production and delivery of hydrocarbons will be set up on Russian president's instructions.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin will go on a working trip to Russian far eastern city of Vladivostok on November 12 to 13.

    On November 12, the head of state will participate in a satellite TV link-up in a ceremony to commission second hydropower unit of the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power plant which is the last one of ten hydropower units at the plant fully renovated in restoration after the man-made hydropower disaster on August 17, 2009, the Kremlin press service said. The president will also visit a laboratory building of Far Eastern Federal University operating since September 1, 2014 with laboratories of underwater robotic equipment, mechanics, basic chair of petrochemistry of Russian oil major Rosneft and will study the process of learning at lectures given by invited professors, the press service said.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:21 am

    Russia to Create Shipbuilding Cluster in Kaliningrad Region

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    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:17 pm

    Plant "Zvezda" modernizing power to repair submarines

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    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:33 pm

    Kronstadt Naval plant will be part of "United Shipbuilding Corporation" on June 1st, 2015

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:55 am

    Rogozin: Shipbuilding Complex "Zvezda" in Far East to start work in 2016

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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:02 am

    Annual Report of JSC Shipyard "Yantar" for 2014


    Key events in the activities of "Shipyard" Yantar "that occurred during 2014

    In 2014, as part of the basis for the activities of the Company were as follows the main events:
    During the construction and repair of ships for the Russian Defense Ministry:

    BDK continued construction of the project 11711 "Ivan Gren" (Head. Wc-301):
    work was carried out on completion and installation, electrical installation standard equipment.

    BDK continued construction of the project 11711 "Peter Morgunov" (Head. Wc-302):
    carried out construction work started stacker assembly hull.

    continued construction of the oceanographic vessel of project 22010 "Amber" (Head. №01602) - carried out the order completion, mooring trials in November 2014 launched the order to the factory sea trials.

    continued work on the construction project orders 11356R for the Russian Defense Ministry:
    - "Admiral Grigorovich" order manager. №357 - launched, over completion, started preparing for the kind of tests
    - "Admiral Essen" order manager. №358 - launched, over loading and installation of mechanical and special equipment, pipelines and systems
    - "Admiral Makarov" inquiry head. №359 loaded main and auxiliary engines, hull and superstructure are fully formed, the order is ready to be launched.

    works on service maintenance and repair of ships and vessels of the Baltic Fleet in the framework of the state defense order.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1355151.html


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:28 pm

    Shipbuilding complex "Zvezda" will attract 10 thousand new workers

    Ship-building complex is created on the basis of the factory "Zvezda" - the only in the Far East, specializes in the repair, refurbishing and modernizing ships nuclear missile submarines.

    VLADIVOSTOK, July 2 - RIA Novosti. Under construction in Primorye shipbuilding complex "Star" will attract 10 thousand new employees, according to the regional administration with reference to the governor of the region Vladimir Miklushevsky.

    "The complex will allow us to develop production, create new jobs, improve the tax base. Ten thousand is planned to attract professionals to work: some of them - residents of Primorye, part - the newcomers. They need to build housing with developed social infrastructure," - said Miklushevsky.

    He stressed that today there are four options for the future of housing professionals. One of them - the federal program "Housing for Russian families," the second option - the creation of cooperatives of shareholders, which allows you to build housing cheaper by 30%. It is also possible to build departmental housing. And planned construction of a kindergarten for 240 places to the 2018-2019 years.

    Plant "Zvezda" in Big Stone is a leading enterprise on repair of submarines of the Pacific Fleet and the only one in the Far East, specializing in the repair, refurbishing and modernizing ships nuclear missile submarines. Now here comes the creation of the shipbuilding complex "Star".

    The first phase of construction of the shipyard ends in 2016 (it is allocated 45 billion rubles), the second and third stages - in 2018. Start of production is scheduled to begin in the first quarter of 2016. It is expected that the complex will be engaged in the construction of ships for the development of hydrocarbon deposits on the Arctic shelf.


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:34 pm

    The main activities of JSC "Far East Plant" Zvezda "in 2014:

    1. In the reporting year, the main work on the SDO segment were conducted in the Premier League "Irkutsk" Project 949A head. Number 619 [modernization project 949AM within state contract from 05.04.2013 № R / 1/2/0117 / GK-13-DGOZ] and submarines "Ryazan" 667BDR project manager. Number 376 [on-condition repair under the state contract from 26.08.2011 № R / 1/2/0526 / GK-11-DGOZ with the initial maturity date in 2013.]. In accordance with the decree of the Russian Government recognized the Company the sole executor of the state defense order in part to repair the deep modernization of submarines [probably submarine project 949A].
    2. Completed repairs of "Tomsk" Project 949A head. Number 663 on the main state contract [is unclear what is meant - state contract from 27.11.2009 № 714/13/27 / EC / 1339-09 for the repair of a technical extension of overhaul life of 3.5 years, or government contract from 18.12. 2012 number P / 1/2/0722 / GK-12-DGOZ to identified during repair work extra cost 499 million rubles. with maturity date in October 2013.]. December 25, 2014 the ship departed to the place of permanent deployment. Formalized accounting documents for the closure of the state contract.
    3. In the process of repair PLAC "Kuzbass" Project 971 head. Number 516 identified an additional amount of work not covered by the state contract [Again, it is unclear about the first government contract from 17.08.2009 № 714/13/27 / EC / 0974-09 to renovate the technical condition with date 2010. with the price of 1.01 billion rubles. or a second contract for additional work with unaccounted cost 463.9 million. from 18.12.2012 № R / 1/2/0723 / GK-12-DGOZ with a maturity date in 2013.]. Concluded new government contract to date November 2015
    4. Work on the federal targeted programs are not executed in full. Change the requirements for the project of reconstruction, providing for the possibility of their use without building alterations to repair submarines Generation IV, changes the fundamental technology of repair and modernization of submarines of the third generation, with the result that there was a necessity to adjust the PSD feasibility study.
    5. Unable to fully execute its investment program for the construction of shipbuilding complex "Star" due to transfer the bulk of funding for the coming years.
    6. Segment military-technical cooperation were working on submarine dismantlement "Zelenograd" 667BDRM project manager. Number 393 on an agreement with the Agency to reduce the threat of US Department of Defense [according to the site of public procurement in 2014-15g. was taken two orders for disposal of nuclear submarines worth more than 745 mln., the planned completion date 2017.].

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  franco on Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:33 pm

    Still having productivity issues though. That is a lot of production penalties.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:26 am

    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150709/1123632132.html

    Seems that shipbuilding organization USC is still in trouble, and Borisov is quite pissed that they did what all they could in terms of measures, and same issues still persist. My best bet is piss poor management. Also, Zvezda shipyard is apparently under staffed and from what I heard, it is due to piss poor pay and lack of accommodation for workers. Piss poor pay is a problem and could become a bigger one if the government cuts defense spending at all.

    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150709/1123714387.html

    So it seems that they will be using military scientists(?) at shipyards and he stated specifically Zvezda shipyard as an example of using military scientists to provide assistance.

    I say, if the shipyard is that much of a problem, why not privatize it. I imagine someone else may be able to make better of it if the government/USC cannot.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:15 pm

    I say, if the shipyard is that much of a problem, why not privatize it. I imagine someone else may be able to make better of it if the government/USC cannot.

    Why do westerners think privatisation is a solution?

    First of all producing military equipment... which private companies would you like to own this shipyard... Boeing? The French?

    Privatisation means basically firing half the workers and then making the remaining workers do three times more work than they did before for less wages, while the new management steal the profits and retirement funds of the workers...


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  Firebird on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:34 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    I say, if the shipyard is that much of a problem, why not privatize it. I imagine someone else may be able to make better of it if the government/USC cannot.

    Why do westerners think privatisation is a solution?

    First of all producing military equipment... which private companies would you like to own this shipyard... Boeing? The French?

    Privatisation means basically firing half the workers and then making the remaining workers do three times more work than they did before for less wages, while the new management steal the profits and retirement funds of the workers...

    Its only SOME westerners Garry.
    Usually those who feast off others labour and do fuck all themselves.

    Personally I think it all depends on the *type* of enterprise.

    For instance. America's Apollo mission.
    A state run project using zillions of taxpayers money.
    Its purpose? To "prove" that private enterprise was better than state run enterprise.

    So they "proved" private enterprise was better than state enterprise... by having a (supposedly) successful state run enterprise.

    Hmm....

    You couldnt make this shit up.

    Altho they do claim to have "lost" the orginal moon landing tapes.
    So maybe... they did make the whole thing up!

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    I say, if the shipyard is that much of a problem, why not privatize it. I imagine someone else may be able to make better of it if the government/USC cannot.

    Why do westerners think privatisation is a solution?

    First of all producing military equipment... which private companies would you like to own this shipyard... Boeing? The French?

    Privatisation means basically firing half the workers and then making the remaining workers do three times more work than they did before for less wages, while the new management steal the profits and retirement funds of the workers...

    When it comes to shipbuilding Russia has tried every carrot in the book. No results whatsoever.

    Maybe generous application of stick is just what the doctor ordered.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:23 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I say, if the shipyard is that much of a problem, why not privatize it. I imagine someone else may be able to make better of it if the government/USC cannot.

    Why do westerners think privatisation is a solution?

    First of all producing military equipment... which private companies would you like to own this shipyard... Boeing? The French?

    Privatisation means basically firing half the workers and then making the remaining workers do three times more work than they did before for less wages, while the new management steal the profits and retirement funds of the workers...

    When it comes to shipbuilding Russia has tried every carrot in the book. No results whatsoever.

    Maybe generous application of stick is just what the doctor ordered.
    But that won't happen because because Putin is a capitalist and is veiws destroying the oligarchs plaguing the russian industry and finance in general would "be an attack upon the free market" and we all know the sacred "free market" is so less evil than socialism because the right wing global capitalist(russian included) bourgeoisie says so Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:57 pm

    Well, by sounds of it, it really boils down to piss poor management. So it has to be somewhere to fix this. It could also be funds as well. Russia has quite a few shipyards so I imagine it is hard to fund them all. I dont say privatize all of them, but let government concentrate on the shipyards most important and sell off the other ones. And selling off doesnt mean to some foreigner. It could be sold off to companies like Gazprom or Rosneft who can use the shipyards to build their own tankers/transporters, equipment for offshore drilling, logistics, etc. If they manage to turn it around, then could get profitable contracts from gov for military means. Could generate revenue.

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    Post  Cucumber Khan on Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:54 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I say, if the shipyard is that much of a problem, why not privatize it. I imagine someone else may be able to make better of it if the government/USC cannot.

    Why do westerners think privatisation is a solution?

    First of all producing military equipment... which private companies would you like to own this shipyard... Boeing? The French?

    Privatisation means basically firing half the workers and then making the remaining workers do three times more work than they did before for less wages, while the new management steal the profits and retirement funds of the workers...

    When it comes to shipbuilding Russia has tried every carrot in the book. No results whatsoever.

    Maybe generous application of stick is just what the doctor ordered.

    Beating a dead horse rarely helps.

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    Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:58 am

    If the problem is management then it shouldn't be a problem... they should be able to look at the practises in the shipyards that get things done and use that as a model for shipyards that are having problems.

    Of course the reality is that the shipyards that are having problems are the ones making brand new designs with new standardised systems that have not been integrated before... they can produce Krivak IVs or Vs of whatever they are called, and Improved Kilos quickly enough, but the technology in the Lada class SSKs is all new and experimental.

    Perhaps the MIC needs more than just money thrown at it... perhaps it needs real attention... attention that so far it has not received.


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:07 pm

    Russian shipbuilders "spare no effort" to fulfil state defense order — USC corporation


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    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:38 am

    Any information on Russian shipbuilding industry? I mean, any ideas if they will increase shipbuilding capabilities since from what i am aware they are greatly limited in size of the ships they can build atm since biggest shipyard ended up in Ukrainian hands. Coz this long term rearmament program is even mentioning future carrier (100.000t) and i must express my doubt that Russians have shipyard big enough for it, so its either to build it abroad (China?) or to expand some shipyard, Admiralty Shipyard, Sevmash...

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:10 pm

    I doubt they will ever get important ships built by over seas shipbuilders.

    they are building a new shipyard in the far east for building large vessels... oil tankers and gas transporters... it will likely build any carriers they decide to build.


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    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:56 pm

    Hmm, it would probably be easier just to build another drydock on some of the existing shipyards for major projects atm, tho i dont have anything aganist new shipyards on Far East either. Well they did try to obtain Mistrals which are not only built overseas but also built totally on foreign platform, so i wouldnt be suprised if they did such deal with China, they after all base alot of their navy on originally Russian designs.

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