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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:16 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The Navy seems keen to keep this shipyard in work. The boat looks like an updated E-Boat from WW2.

    A contract for two boats of torpedolike the project 1388Н3 June 18th, 0:03 http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1968526.html

    As reported in the published annual report of OJSC "Sokolskaya Sudoverf" (Sokol'skoye, Nizhny Novgorod oblast) for 2015, the company in the reporting year, has signed a state contract for construction for the Russian Navy of two boats-torpedolab the project 1388Н3 (serial numbers 451 and 452) for delivery in 2018 and 2019, respectively.




    Boat torpedoman TL-1603 project 1388 Baltic fleet (C) www.arms-expo.ru

    Interestingly, these boats-torpedolike must be created on the basis of a draft 1388Н3 serially built on Sokolskaya shipyard boats communication, a project which he, in turn, is based on the boat design-torpedolike 1388 (the last was built for the Navy at Sosnovskoye shipyard from 1974 to 1990 in the amount of 39 units). Project 1388 (code "Cormorant") was developed by design Bureau "Vympel". We can assume that the phrase "on the basis of the project 1388Н3" means the use of imported engines (project 1388Н3 used Carterpillar diesel engines 3512В).

    In addition to the conclusion of the contract the two-boats-torpedolike, OJSC "Sokolskaya Sudoverf", according to its report, handed over in 2015, the Russian defense Ministry two ships-target project 436бис (factory numbers 020 and 021) and continued to build another communication boat project 1388Н3 (serial number 403). Military orders make up 99.8% of the production of the small shipyard (172 employees).

    Since 2006 the company has passed the Ministry of defense of Russia, eight of the target vessels project 436бис (with serial numbers for 014 021) and three communication boat project 1388Н/H3 (serial number 482, 401, and 402). In October 2014, was signed state contract for the supply of another three boats when the project 1388Н3 (factory room 403 at 405) for delivery in 2017-2019 years.

    Heap of trash would be an understatement,
    What were they thinking? Also Caterpillar engines angry

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  franco on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:26 pm

    It's not a war ship but a support vessel used for testing. If anything the naval support fleet was older and in worse shape then it's combat fleet. Over a hundred new ones are being built between 2011-2020.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:36 pm

    franco wrote:It's not a war ship but a support vessel used for testing. If anything the naval support fleet was older and in worse shape then it's combat fleet. Over a hundred new ones are being built between 2011-2020.

    Hah OK. That article translation makes it seem as if they're inducting torpedo boats with US-made engines. lol1

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  franco on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:38 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    franco wrote:It's not a war ship but a support vessel used for testing. If anything the naval support fleet was older and in worse shape then it's combat fleet. Over a hundred new ones are being built between 2011-2020.

    Hah OK. That article translation makes it seem as if they're inducting torpedo boats with US-made engines. lol1


    If it was a warship then the Americans wouldn't let them use their engines.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:42 pm

    franco wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    franco wrote:It's not a war ship but a support vessel used for testing. If anything the naval support fleet was older and in worse shape then it's combat fleet. Over a hundred new ones are being built between 2011-2020.

    Hah OK. That article translation makes it seem as if they're inducting torpedo boats with US-made engines. lol1


    If it was a warship then the Americans wouldn't let them use their engines.

    Still interesting that US-supplied engines are kosher on Ru Navy support vessels.
    Wait until the likes of McCain find out.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:04 am

    CMDB "Almaz" Annual Report 2015

    GENERAL DIRECTOR

    The past 2015 was quite interesting in the sense that for the first time after overcoming the crisis of the Russian shipbuilding 90-ies of the last century in six domestic shipyards at the same time were in various stages of testing eight head of vessels designed JSC "CMDB" Diamond ":

    • Oceanographic research vessel "Amber" Project 22010 "Cruys" built on Primorsky shipyard "Yantar" in Kaliningrad;

    • Maritime transport arms "Academician Kovalev" project 20181, built in ship repair "Zvezdochka" in Center
       Severodvinsk;

    • Rescue ship "Igor Belousov" Project 21300 "Dolphin", built at the Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg;

    • Border patrol ship "Polar Star" Project 22100 "Ocean", built at a shipyard named after AM Gorky Zelenodolsk, Republic of Tatarstan;

    • Small patrol ship (corvette) 20380 "Perfect", built at the Amur Shipbuilding plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur;

    • Basic minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov" Project 12700 "Alexandra", built on the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard in St. Petersburg

    • Raid Minesweeper "Alatau" project 10750E built at the same shipyard;

    • «Sviyaga" transport floating dock project 22570, built at a shipyard named after AM Gorky Zelenodolsk, Republic of Tatarstan.

    Thus it is necessary to take into account the complex geopolitical situation in the world, costing side of our industry and have a negative impact on the performance of our obligations to customers: the imposition of sanctions by Western countries raised questions about the supply of certain types of marine equipment, including power plants, what else
    sharper revealed sore import problem in our industry in general and shipbuilding in particular.

    In spite of the aggravating factors of the situation, Bureau staff fulfilled the main objectives set for 2015. During the reporting year, in addition to the parent vessels were transferred to government customers serial ships and boats, designed by the Bureau:

    - Serial coast guard vessel project 10410;

    - Serial patrol boat project 12200 "Sable";

    - Seven serial high-speed patrol boat project 12150 "Mongoose".

    In the area of ​​military-technical cooperation with foreign states in the reporting year was handed over to the naval forces of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, the two series of missile boats 12418 project, built on the shipyard Ba Son Limited in Ho Chi Minh City under license and under the technical supervision of engineers of "TTSMKB" Diamond". Part of the work designated for the Bureau in the framework of this project was successfully completed in 2015. In addition, Vietnam continues to implement the project TP-400 in favor of the Navy in Vietnam. The project of "CMDB" Diamond "also fulfills its part of the design work.

    These directly report:

    In the reporting year as part of a military ship were transferred to government customers the following ships and boats, designed by JSC "CMDB" Almaz "and built on 13 shipyards:

       - Head the rescue ship "Igor Belousov" Project 21300 "Dolphin"

       - The leading oceanographic research vessel "Amber" Project 22010 "Cruys"

       - Head sea transport weapons "Academician Kovalev" project 20181

       - Parent "Sviyaga" floating dock project 22570

       - Seven serial high-speed patrol boat project 12150 "Mongoose"

       - Serial coast guard vessel project 10410

       - Serial patrol boat project 12200 "Sable"

       - Two series of missile boat project 12418.


       In the reporting year we were under construction head 5 and 13 series units, namely:

       - The head of the project 20385 corvette and one serial of the same project

       - Two serial corvette 20380

       - Head sea transport weapons "Academician Makeyev" project 20183

       - Head base minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov" Project 12700 "Alexander" and the serial "George Kurbatov" the same project

       - The parent raid minesweeper "Alatau" project 10750E

       - Head coast guard vessel "Polar Star" Project 22100 "Ocean"

       - Serial small missile ship project 1234EM

       - Serial towing vessels Project 11982 "Ilmen" and "Ladoga"

       - Two series of missile boat project 12418

       - Two serial service-crew boat project 21270.


       JSC "CMDB" Almaz "has traditionally been an active participant in the process of military-technical cooperation of the Russian Federation with foreign states. For more than 65-year history of the development of the Office for his projects were built and exported about 1,000 naval engineering units in over 40 countries around the world.

       The following projects in the Russian Federation with foreign states military-technical cooperation is planned to be completed after the reporting year:

       • Project 12418 - construction of missile boats (RCA) under the license of "CMDB" Almaz "in the shipyard in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. The contract covers the construction of the first 2 RCA in Russia and the subsequent 8 RCA in Vietnam.

       • 10750E Project - construction raid trawlers "Alatau" for the Navy of Kazakhstan is scheduled for completion by mid-2016

       • 1234EM Project - works to correct and support the modernization of small missile ship Navy Algeria will
       completed after the reporting year.

       • Project TP-400 - work on creation of patrol ships for the Navy in Vietnam.


       During the period of "CMDB" Almaz "has worked in the following areas of development of design documentation:

       1. Development of technical projects 20386, 22800, 23550.

       2. Develop a working design, production, acceptance documentation: - Projects 21300, 20181, 20380 (A-A), 22010, 20380 (4), 12200, 20385, 20183, 22570, 22100, SVP-30, 12270M, 11982, 12700 , 22800.

       3. Technical support of construction orders - Projects 12150, 12700, 20380 (K-A, 4), 21300, 20180, 11982, 12200, 20181, 20183, 22570, 11982, and others.

       4. Other design trends.

       5. Implementation of FTP-OCD-2 theme.



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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:11 am

    Annual Report of the Northern Design Bureau for 2015

    Published annual report of joint stock company "Northern Design Bureau" (St. Petersburg) in 2015.

    The report says that in the reporting period JSC "Northern PKB" provided documentation and technical experts on the promotion of construction, the builders of plants:

    - Three head orders (projects 22350, 11356 and 22160);

    - Nine serial orders (projects 22350, 11356 and 22460);

    - Modernization of the five orders (projects 11442M, 11551, 1155, 1164, the cruiser "Aurora").

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1984710.html


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:28 am

    George1 wrote:Annual Report of the Northern Design Bureau for 2015

    Published annual report of joint stock company "Northern Design Bureau" (St. Petersburg) in 2015.

    The report says that in the reporting period JSC "Northern PKB" provided documentation and technical experts on the promotion of construction, the builders of plants:

       - Three head orders (projects 22350, 11356 and 22160);

       - Nine serial orders (projects 22350, 11356 and 22460);

       - Modernization of the five orders (projects 11442M, 11551, 1155, 1164, the cruiser "Aurora").

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1984710.html

    So they planning to refit all of their Slava's, Kirovs and Udaloys plus Sovremennyy's?

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:31 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    So they planning to refit all of their Slava's, Kirovs and Udaloys plus Sovremennyy's?

    i have the same wonder Question


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:51 pm

    George1 wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    So they planning to refit all of their Slava's, Kirovs and Udaloys plus Sovremennyy's?

    i have the same wonder Question

    Given the fact they have yet to finish the Marshal Ustinov they put her in at 2011 right?.

    Not to mention the Tigr and Leopard have been in refit since 2011, the Stormy 2012.

    I have serious doubts they can finish the 15 destroyers, the two remaining Kirov's (unsure if they will refit Lazarev, the slava, the aircraft carrying cruiser.

    Not to mention they want to refit all their Pikes all 10 and haven't finished one yet. The four Sierra's not one is done ether. The eight Oscar's which one isn't done yet.

    Plus build all the stuff they are currently building and plan to.

    I have serious doubts, their ship building industry can pull such a tall order off.

    At the pace they are going zero point in refitting has these ships by the time they get them done they could just build something to replace them.

    I mean hell combined with all the other ships, do they even have enough men to crew this many vessels?. Once you add up the corvettes, subs, support ships, the new frigate classes. The other ships they want to build

    I mean why update the old DD's if your just going to replace them? refitting them wmeans they plans to keep those things in service for a long time.

    Do they even have enough money to maintain such a massive fleet when combined with the newer stuff?

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:54 pm


    @SeigSoloyvov

    It is more about maintaining fleet numbers than increasing them of we talk about retrofitting old ships.

    As for new stuff, keep in mind that they are building new shipyards in addition to expanding existing ones.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  Isos on Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:05 pm

    Is Russian navy operating midget subs like yugo class or smaller ? Do they have projects of that type ?

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:02 am



    Russian Far East Zvezda Shipyard to Build First Vessel in 2019

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20160901/1044839116/zvezda-shiyard-ships.html

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:36 am

    Is Russian navy operating midget subs like yugo class or smaller ? Do they have projects of that type ?

    Piranha, and Losharak are two small subs they operate... there are a few more including rescue subs.


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  kvs on Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:00 am

    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/russian-shipyards-backward-you-make-me-laugh/ri16436

    The above article compares numbers for the build times of various naval ships and submarines
    in the USA, Russia, Japan and Europe. Russia is doing quite well for a country coming out of
    one of the worst depressions in history during the 1990s (50% GDP drop).

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:37 pm

    Plans for the creation of marine instrument-making corporation in Russia

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2291498.html


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  Militarov on Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:28 am

    George1 wrote:Plans for the creation of marine instrument-making corporation in Russia

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2291498.html

    Well considering they needed to import almost 35% of the marine instruments, this is good idea... abit late, but better than never.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  franco on Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:55 pm

    Interfax 18:59 Batch production of naval engines replacing Ukrainian to begin in Rybinsk in a year - MIC

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    Post  franco on Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:08 am

    Also Saturn has developed 3 marine gas turbines for production;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2418429.html

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    Also Saturn has developed 3 marine gas turbines for production;

    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:24 am

    So from what I can tell they have produced first products and designs/drawings on old equipment and tooling but the new engines they make now will be on new tooling/equipment.

    Interesting.


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:39 am

    Severnaya Verf is unable to cope with the orders of the Ministry of Defense of Russia

    According to the publication "Business Petersburg" in the material Alexandra Sologub "Severnaya Verf not cope with the orders of the Defense Ministry. Defense Department sends them Kaliningrad" Amber ". A USC preparing to replace the head of Severnaya Verf", the Russian Ministry of Defense has decided to continue the construction of ships of the auxiliary fleet on Kaliningrad JSC "Baltic Shipyard" Yantar "(included in the JSC" United shipbuilding Corporation ", USC). Although a contract for 12 billion rubles for a series of three ships military logistics 23120 Ministry of Defence project signed with the Severnaya Verf (also" daughter "OSK) more . in June 2012. The lead ship "Elbrus" shipyard laid in November 2012. The second ship, "Vsevolod Bobrov", founded in November 2013 and the summer of 2014 Severnaya Verf laid the third ship in the series -. "The captain Shevchenko" is designed. this series of St. Petersburg JSC "Spetssudoproekt".

    I do not missed the deadline


    Under the contract, Severnaya Verf was to pass the lead vessel "Elbrus" Northern Fleet in November 2014, a second ship was to leave the Black Sea Fleet in November 2015, and the third - to the Pacific Fleet in November 2016. During construction, the project was adjusted, which was one of the reasons for increase in terms of work, stated earlier in Northern Shipyard.

    According to the newly approved schedule of the Navy will receive "Elbrus" in March 2017. On the timing of the transfer of "Vsevolod Bobrov" Severnaya Verf even some no longer speaks. And about the "Captain Shevchenko" and forgot to think. From 2015 th Defense Ministry does not allocate funds for its construction. At the end of 2016 the Ministry of Defense has decided to build a support vessel at the "Yantar". At Shipyard declined to comment, citing the fact that the contract for this order has not been signed, so too early to talk about details.

    "Choice" Amber "as a platform for building seems only right - believe in USC -. On startup Severnaya Verf order the transfer will not affect Shipyard will focus on the implementation of the state defense order of tasks.".

    "In the" Amber "will build until one ship on the updated draft 23120M: with refined objectives to deck machinery, the speed, the other crane system is slightly changed shape of the body, will be a helipad without hangar While basing the helicopter on the ship is not provided.." - explains Anton Sobolewski, CEO of "Spetssudoproekta".

    The Russian Navy does not comment on the reasons for the order transfer to another plant. But shipbuilders, close to the Defense Ministry, gently suggest that one of the main reasons could be the increase in construction is the timing at Severnaya Verf.

    What losses can be of the order of failure, do not speak the Shipyard. Though, most likely, the company incurred costs. According to the rules of the Russian Maritime Register of Shipping vessel is considered pledged when installed on the slipway of the hull weighing not less than 50 tonnes (on the third tab ship shipyard announced in the summer of 2014). "Inventory for the construction of sections of the costs carried out, the information is transferred to the customer", - is spoken in the USC.

    The application has been received

    The results of financial and economic activities of Northern Shipyard USC leadership apparently not quite believe shipbuilders, or rather the way yard run. "Usually, directors are not laid off, they go away on their own I know that Alex Seleznev several times already going to leave the yard." - Says the source, "DE". The USC confirmed that the statement Director General of the resignation of the shipyard received and will soon be considered by the Board of Directors of the USC. "He will make a decision and at the request of, and future leaders," - added to the USC.

    Among the contenders for his place - the chief engineer of the Shipyard "Yantar" 39-year-old Dmitry Ermakov. "His appointment brings some reputational risks, - said one of the interlocutors" DP "-. In the Kaliningrad press top manager mentioned in connection with the scandal over his involvement in a deadly accident."

    It is much more preferable, according to the shipbuilders, the appointment of the head of Severnaya Verf 62-year-old Igor Ponomarev, Vice-President of JSC "USC" on military shipbuilding. In addition, he led the "Amber" in difficult times for the company. Severnaya Verf and "Amber" technologically very similar. According to the head of the Vyborg Shipyard Solveva Alexander Ponomarev - the best option for Northern Shipyard.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding: News

    Post  franco on Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:30 pm

    Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

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    Post  Militarov on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:00 pm

    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

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    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:06 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

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    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:17 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

    Not only titanium, many alloys are welded like that, magnesium, some aluminium alloys...

    Also they welded Alpha subs in sections with argon being poured onto weld so to say. It would be mindblowingly expensive to weld major sized sections in chambers.

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