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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:06 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:17 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

    Not only titanium, many alloys are welded like that, magnesium, some aluminium alloys...

    Also they welded Alpha subs in sections with argon being poured onto weld so to say. It would be mindblowingly expensive to weld major sized sections in chambers.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Singular_Transform on Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:57 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

    Not only titanium, many alloys are welded like that, magnesium, some aluminium alloys...

    Also they welded Alpha subs in sections with argon being poured onto weld so to say. It would be mindblowingly expensive to weld major sized sections in chambers.

    The alpha/sierra submarines are mindblowingly expensive.


    It is cheaper to flood the whole building with argon than to blow contentiously argon onto the hull.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:02 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

    Not only titanium, many alloys are welded like that, magnesium, some aluminium alloys...

    Also they welded Alpha subs in sections with argon being poured onto weld so to say. It would be mindblowingly expensive to weld major sized sections in chambers.

    The alpha/sierra submarines are mindblowingly expensive.


    It is cheaper to flood the whole building with argon than to blow contentiously argon onto the hull.

    Doubtful its cheaper, where is that building now, because i never saw such module in any Russian shipyard. Place like that would be very famous in engineering circles.

    Small parts and sections are welded in complete argon atmosphere, rest are 99,99% of the time welded with "conventional" protective gas layer formed on the weld itself. But sure, if you can show me 100m long welding chamber i am open minded.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:22 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    Doubtful its cheaper, where is that building now, because i never saw such module in any Russian shipyard. Place like that would be very famous in engineering circles.

    Small parts and sections are welded in complete argon atmosphere, rest are 99,99% of the time welded with "conventional" protective gas layer formed on the weld itself. But sure, if you can show me 100m long welding chamber i am open minded.

    You need to recycle the gas.

    Cost of gas supply to cover the weld of a main submarine part makes the 120 meter long gas chamber cheap.


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:57 am

    Russian shipbuilding industry in 2016

    According to Anastasia Vedeneyeva in the article "And immediately emerged," published in the newspaper "Kommersant", in 2016 the number handed over to customers by Russian shipyards ships fell by 16%, but their total value increased by 15% to RUB 141.2 billion . The bulk of the revenue shipbuilders continue to ensure the state defense order (SDO), but the cost is handed over civilian vessels increased by 72% last year. According to experts, this trend will continue and in general this year: SDO will provide up to 70% of revenue shipyards, but due to various measures of state support will increase the number of orders and the total value of civil shipbuilding production will increase by 50%.

    At the end of 2016 at Russian shipyards were put 168 ships (66 civilian and 102 military), 16% less than in 2015, it follows from the rating "Infoline-Analysts" "Infoline Shipbuilding Russia Top", which examined "Kommersant" . Total tonnage increased by 3.4% to 219 thousand. Tonnes. Increased and the aggregate value of surrendered vessels: shipbuilding - by 4.4%, to 106.9 billion rubles in civil shipbuilding - 72%, to 34.3 billion rubles..



    Preserved the dominance of the military: in 2016 handed shipbuilding orders quantified occupied more than 60%, in terms of money - more than 75% (but 30% in tonnage). According to forecasts "Infoline-analysts", in 2017 the trend continues: in the state defense order for 30% of the tonnage of vessels scheduled for delivery, in terms of value is about 70%. Sources "Kommersant" in the industry previously noted that the bias in favor of shipbuilding will be stored as the scale of the SDO, and because of the economic situation in the country.

    According to the rating, in terms of tonnage and total cost of surrendered vessels leading position preserves the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC): more than 80% of orders in terms of money on it. In 2016, USC shipyards court passed by 86.1 billion rubles. tonnage of 119.3 thous. tons. As of the first quarter, under construction at the corporation 163 vessels with a total value of 926.3 billion rubles. The second place on the appraised value of orders taken holding "Ak Bars" - 8.9 billion rubles. In the first quarter under construction he still has 24 vessels by 90.4 billion rubles. and 69 thousand. tonnes. Closes the three UCL Holding Vladimir Lisin, who has passed the court in the amount of 2.3 billion rubles. Now in its shipyards built four ships (1.4 billion rubles., And 11.4 thous. Tons).

    According to the calculations "Infoline-Analysts' in the list of enterprises in terms of money are controlled by the USC leader" Admiralty Shipyards ", although in 2016 the value of surrendered factory ships decreased by a third, to 37.2 billion rubles. In second place - also controlled by USC Shipyard "Yantar" in 2016 who passed orders for 27 billion rubles. In third place - a private shipbuilding company "Almaz" has increased over the year, the value of orders handed over by SDO is almost 2.5 times to 11.5 billion rubles. In addition, the top five on the total value of orders entered handed Petersburg "Pella" (for "Kartoteke.Ru" controlled Herbert Tsaturova) and Finnish Arctech Helsinki Shipyard (USC). Arctech was among the leaders by putting a diesel-electric icebreaker Polaris Project AkerARC 130, before the plant is also built ice-class vessels, but the final stages of construction and commissioning were other USC shipyards. Leaders in the tonnage of steel enterprises USC for 2016 "Red Sormovo" and Astrakhan "Lotos". And last year was able to get up on the list for nine positions due to the transfer to the customer two tankers RST 25 and three self-propelled pontoons 6516. The third position is occupied Oka Shipyard UCL, and the leader of the 2015 Vyborg Shipyard USC fell to fifth place.

    According to the head "Infoline-Analysts' Mikhail Burmistrov, in 2017 the total cost of surrendered ships will grow by more than 20%, exceeding 170 billion rubles. The naval shipbuilding he expects growth of more than 15%, to 120 billion rubles, and in civil shipbuilding -. 50%, to more than 50 billion rubles.

    It will be the largest project of the nuclear icebreaker "Arktika", which is being built on the Baltic Plant. The key trend 2016-2017 years Mr. Burmistrov called the formation of the Russian shipowners portfolio of orders for Russian shipyards for new types of passenger ships (two cruise ships ordered "Vodohod" and the Moscow River Shipping Company) and fishing fleets. In the 2018-2020 years it will continue to grow share in the civil fleet of ships surrendered cost.

    Nadezhda Malysheva from PortNews said that government support and financial instruments (leasing), aimed at stimulating shipbuilding industry should increase the number of orders. We can expect growth to vessels "river-sea" in demand, as the government is aimed at the development of inland waterways and the construction of new hydraulic structures, the expert said.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:19 am

    The Ministry of Defense will order a tanker for the Pacific Fleet at the Far Eastern Zvezda Plant

    On March 7, 2017, the Department of Information and Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov, in the framework of his working visit to the defense enterprises of the Far East and Siberia, visited the Far East Zvezda Plant in Primorye.

    During the visit, the deputy head of the military department said that the Russian Defense Ministry and the Zvezda Far East plant in 2017 will sign a contract for the construction of a universal supply vessel - an average marine tanker with a displacement of 20,000 tons for the Pacific Fleet (Pacific Fleet).

    "Taking advantage of the fact that new production capacities for large-capacity construction have been launched at the plant, we will place an order for the construction of an auxiliary fleet - a series of tankers. So, this year it is planned to conclude a contract with the delivery in 2020 of a universal tanker supply vessel, "Yury Borisov said.

    He specified that the displacement of the tanker will be 20 thousand tons and it will provide for the needs of the Pacific Fleet.

    The Deputy Minister of Defense noted that the Zvezda plant is one of the most sought-after assets of the military department, since it is there that the submarine fleet of the Pacific Fleet is being practically renovated and serviced.

    "Therefore, we cherish this plant very much, we are constantly here, we look at how its reconstruction is going on. The civilian component of shipbuilding is very well developed here, "Yury Borisov emphasized.

    The bmpd comment.
    This news is another confirmation that the new shipbuilding complex "Zvezda", being built at JSC "Far East Zvezda Plant" in Bolshoy Kamen (Primorye Territory), contrary to the original plans, has not yet been seriously loaded with commercial orders, and, apparently, the essence will be "stretched" by the state mainly due to budget injections and orders, including the placement of orders through the state defense order. It is noteworthy that the floating unit (dock complex) Zvezda of Project 23380, also for the Russian Navy, was the first unit launched by the construction on the occasion of the launch of the first stage of the Zvezda shipbuilding complex on September 1, 2016.

    The enterprise is being built by a consortium of ZAO Modern Shipbuilding Technologies as part of Gazprombank and GC Rosneft.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:53 am

    Amur Shipbuilding Plant will complete and surrender ships in Nakhodka

    As TASS reported on April 19, 2017, the Amur Shipyard has changed the location of the delivery base in Primorsky Krai, from the end of summer the ships will be returned to the sea not in Bolshoy Kamen, but in Nakhodka. This was reported to the journalists by the chief of the plant's shoal department Ivan Khiz.

    "The new delivery base of the plant will be located in Nakhodka, where all the necessary preparatory work is now going on." On the old base at the shipyard Zvezda in Bolshoy Kamen, the contract expired, there is now the first corvette, but it will also be transferred to a new base, Told Khiz to journalists during a press tour to the Amur Shipyard.

    Khiz added that in the autumn a new corvette will be transported to Nakhodka, which is now being prepared for withdrawal from the shop. "The approximate date for the withdrawal from the shop is July 15. All the shops of the plant are now working on the withdrawal of the ship at this time. After the withdrawal some of the tests will take place at the docking yard at the plant - these are mooring tests, tank tests and others, in order to minimize the work on the delivery basis "- said the head of the stapling shop. In the fall, the first of the two supply vessels for the work with floating semisubmersible drilling rigs, which are being built for Gazprom, will also be overtaken after completion of the outfitting operations.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:59 pm



    Zvezda shipyard
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:18 am

    Man they got ways to go yet with that project only just finished phase 1. Look forward to see what the shipyard will look like when all three are done.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Thu May 04, 2017 12:01 am

    Photo-report from Shipyard "Severnaya Verf"

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2587994.html


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Austin on Fri May 05, 2017 12:41 pm

    Found this interesting write up comparing Ukrainian GT Engine and Comparing with what Saturn managed to develop , Quite an Achievement for NPO Saturn

    http://mil.today/2017/Science8/
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu May 11, 2017 2:03 pm


    Huge photodump of construction of Zvezda shipyard:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/93113/



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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu May 11, 2017 4:11 pm

    Holy sh#t!! Shocked





    Looks like Russia might be serious about getting some Aircraft Carriers. russia
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu May 11, 2017 7:42 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:Holy sh#t!! Shocked

    ...................

    Looks like Russia might be serious about getting some Aircraft Carriers. russia

    Yeah, this thing looks like it will definitely be able to handle something like that down the road.

    I would love to see several Avalanche class helicopter carriers first. Practice run and fleet replacement before going crazy. Cool
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    Post  GarryB on Fri May 12, 2017 11:39 am

    Some very large LNG carriers will be built there too...


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 12, 2017 6:33 pm

    Rmf wrote:they bought chinese built cranes, even medium ones, does russia even have crane manufacturing ??  Laughing
    lack of skilled workers and low wages make this even harder. unshaven

    Japan buys American airplanes, does Japan even have airplane manufacturing? Rolling Eyes

    If it were easy even Kazakhstan would be doing it. Laughing
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri May 12, 2017 6:35 pm

    Rmf wrote:they bought chinese built cranes, even medium ones, does russia even have crane manufacturing ??  Laughing
    lack of skilled workers and low wages make this even harder. unshaven

    Way to troll jerk.

    Russia has, last I counted, 3 crane manufacturing companies. 1 being a Russian/Chinese JV.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  kvs on Sat May 13, 2017 2:57 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Rmf wrote:they bought chinese built cranes, even medium ones, does russia even have crane manufacturing ??  Laughing
    lack of skilled workers and low wages make this even harder. unshaven

    Way to troll jerk.

    Russia has, last I counted, 3 crane manufacturing companies.  1 being a Russian/Chinese JV.

    Don't worry, in the precious little head of the typical troll a JV counts for 100% non-Russian activity. Russians are all mud hut dwelling
    primitives who can't do basic math.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat May 13, 2017 4:48 pm

    Rmf wrote:they bought chinese built cranes, even medium ones, does russia even have crane manufacturing ?? Laughing
    lack of skilled workers and low wages make this even harder. unshaven

    The cheapest is if the manufacturer next to the sea.

    Russia doesn't have too much usable seaport , so there is not so many crane manufacturer where you can get this big crane.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Rmf on Sat May 13, 2017 6:50 pm

    well its no point being toxic you can stuff it into your ass as far as i am concerned i dont read and block those idiots like  above , they bought all cranes from china , now go weap and die..
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat May 13, 2017 7:23 pm

    Rmf wrote:well its no point being toxic you can stuff it into your ass as far as i am concerned i dont read and block those idiots like  above , they bought all cranes from china , now go weap and die..

    By magnitude the 80% of the shipbuilding capacity of the world is in China/Korea/Japan, and China build enough capacity to make half of all ships in the past ten years.

    Means that they have a lot of capacity fro shipbuilding equipment too.


    There is no crane manufacturer in the US as well. At least not for shipbuilding crane ....
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat May 13, 2017 7:32 pm

    Rmf wrote:well its no point being toxic you can stuff it into your ass as far as i am concerned i dont read and block those idiots like  above , they bought all cranes from china , now go weap and die..

    As I see your behaviour is simply trolling. The post was no related to the topics, it was simply a try to start a flame war.

    You try to make emotional response, and seems like you enjoying that if you make frustration/anger in humans.

    Typical psychopathic behaviour.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat May 13, 2017 7:36 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Rmf wrote:well its no point being toxic you can stuff it into your ass as far as i am concerned i dont read and block those idiots like  above , they bought all cranes from china , now go weap and die..

    As I see your behaviour is simply trolling. The post was no related to the topics, it was simply a try to start a flame war.

    You try to make emotional response, and seems like you enjoying that if you make frustration/anger in humans.

    Typical psychopathic behaviour.

    Especially when he makes such comments and we call him out on it. No crane manufacturing in Russia? It was posted on this site before as well. Oh well.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Rmf on Sat May 13, 2017 9:16 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Rmf wrote:well its no point being toxic you can stuff it into your ass as far as i am concerned i dont read and block those idiots like  above , they bought all cranes from china , now go weap and die..

    As I see your behaviour is simply trolling. The post was no related to the topics, it was simply a try to start a flame war.

    You try to make emotional response, and seems like you enjoying that if you make frustration/anger in humans.

    Typical psychopathic behaviour.
    i think youre an idiot -simple as that , and many people on other more reasonable forums already stated same thing that i posted - you know people who live and work there moron..... Rolling Eyes

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