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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:31 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    So they planning to refit all of their Slava's, Kirovs and Udaloys plus Sovremennyy's?

    i have the same wonder Question


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:51 pm

    George1 wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    So they planning to refit all of their Slava's, Kirovs and Udaloys plus Sovremennyy's?

    i have the same wonder Question

    Given the fact they have yet to finish the Marshal Ustinov they put her in at 2011 right?.

    Not to mention the Tigr and Leopard have been in refit since 2011, the Stormy 2012.

    I have serious doubts they can finish the 15 destroyers, the two remaining Kirov's (unsure if they will refit Lazarev, the slava, the aircraft carrying cruiser.

    Not to mention they want to refit all their Pikes all 10 and haven't finished one yet. The four Sierra's not one is done ether. The eight Oscar's which one isn't done yet.

    Plus build all the stuff they are currently building and plan to.

    I have serious doubts, their ship building industry can pull such a tall order off.

    At the pace they are going zero point in refitting has these ships by the time they get them done they could just build something to replace them.

    I mean hell combined with all the other ships, do they even have enough men to crew this many vessels?. Once you add up the corvettes, subs, support ships, the new frigate classes. The other ships they want to build

    I mean why update the old DD's if your just going to replace them? refitting them wmeans they plans to keep those things in service for a long time.

    Do they even have enough money to maintain such a massive fleet when combined with the newer stuff?
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:54 pm


    @SeigSoloyvov

    It is more about maintaining fleet numbers than increasing them of we talk about retrofitting old ships.

    As for new stuff, keep in mind that they are building new shipyards in addition to expanding existing ones.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:02 am



    Russian Far East Zvezda Shipyard to Build First Vessel in 2019

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20160901/1044839116/zvezda-shiyard-ships.html
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    Post  kvs on Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:00 am

    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/russian-shipyards-backward-you-make-me-laugh/ri16436

    The above article compares numbers for the build times of various naval ships and submarines
    in the USA, Russia, Japan and Europe. Russia is doing quite well for a country coming out of
    one of the worst depressions in history during the 1990s (50% GDP drop).
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:40 pm


    Pella took over More shipyard in Crimea

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2260331.html
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    Pella took over More shipyard in Crimea

    Post  hoom on Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:42 am

    I think its just a formalisation of the situation.
    Pella has already been heavily involved in getting that shipyard up & running esp with the 22800 build, now has an official lease on it.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:37 pm

    Plans for the creation of marine instrument-making corporation in Russia

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2291498.html


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Militarov on Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:28 am

    George1 wrote:Plans for the creation of marine instrument-making corporation in Russia

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2291498.html

    Well considering they needed to import almost 35% of the marine instruments, this is good idea... abit late, but better than never.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:39 am

    Severnaya Verf is unable to cope with the orders of the Ministry of Defense of Russia

    According to the publication "Business Petersburg" in the material Alexandra Sologub "Severnaya Verf not cope with the orders of the Defense Ministry. Defense Department sends them Kaliningrad" Amber ". A USC preparing to replace the head of Severnaya Verf", the Russian Ministry of Defense has decided to continue the construction of ships of the auxiliary fleet on Kaliningrad JSC "Baltic Shipyard" Yantar "(included in the JSC" United shipbuilding Corporation ", USC). Although a contract for 12 billion rubles for a series of three ships military logistics 23120 Ministry of Defence project signed with the Severnaya Verf (also" daughter "OSK) more . in June 2012. The lead ship "Elbrus" shipyard laid in November 2012. The second ship, "Vsevolod Bobrov", founded in November 2013 and the summer of 2014 Severnaya Verf laid the third ship in the series -. "The captain Shevchenko" is designed. this series of St. Petersburg JSC "Spetssudoproekt".

    I do not missed the deadline


    Under the contract, Severnaya Verf was to pass the lead vessel "Elbrus" Northern Fleet in November 2014, a second ship was to leave the Black Sea Fleet in November 2015, and the third - to the Pacific Fleet in November 2016. During construction, the project was adjusted, which was one of the reasons for increase in terms of work, stated earlier in Northern Shipyard.

    According to the newly approved schedule of the Navy will receive "Elbrus" in March 2017. On the timing of the transfer of "Vsevolod Bobrov" Severnaya Verf even some no longer speaks. And about the "Captain Shevchenko" and forgot to think. From 2015 th Defense Ministry does not allocate funds for its construction. At the end of 2016 the Ministry of Defense has decided to build a support vessel at the "Yantar". At Shipyard declined to comment, citing the fact that the contract for this order has not been signed, so too early to talk about details.

    "Choice" Amber "as a platform for building seems only right - believe in USC -. On startup Severnaya Verf order the transfer will not affect Shipyard will focus on the implementation of the state defense order of tasks.".

    "In the" Amber "will build until one ship on the updated draft 23120M: with refined objectives to deck machinery, the speed, the other crane system is slightly changed shape of the body, will be a helipad without hangar While basing the helicopter on the ship is not provided.." - explains Anton Sobolewski, CEO of "Spetssudoproekta".

    The Russian Navy does not comment on the reasons for the order transfer to another plant. But shipbuilders, close to the Defense Ministry, gently suggest that one of the main reasons could be the increase in construction is the timing at Severnaya Verf.

    What losses can be of the order of failure, do not speak the Shipyard. Though, most likely, the company incurred costs. According to the rules of the Russian Maritime Register of Shipping vessel is considered pledged when installed on the slipway of the hull weighing not less than 50 tonnes (on the third tab ship shipyard announced in the summer of 2014). "Inventory for the construction of sections of the costs carried out, the information is transferred to the customer", - is spoken in the USC.

    The application has been received

    The results of financial and economic activities of Northern Shipyard USC leadership apparently not quite believe shipbuilders, or rather the way yard run. "Usually, directors are not laid off, they go away on their own I know that Alex Seleznev several times already going to leave the yard." - Says the source, "DE". The USC confirmed that the statement Director General of the resignation of the shipyard received and will soon be considered by the Board of Directors of the USC. "He will make a decision and at the request of, and future leaders," - added to the USC.

    Among the contenders for his place - the chief engineer of the Shipyard "Yantar" 39-year-old Dmitry Ermakov. "His appointment brings some reputational risks, - said one of the interlocutors" DP "-. In the Kaliningrad press top manager mentioned in connection with the scandal over his involvement in a deadly accident."

    It is much more preferable, according to the shipbuilders, the appointment of the head of Severnaya Verf 62-year-old Igor Ponomarev, Vice-President of JSC "USC" on military shipbuilding. In addition, he led the "Amber" in difficult times for the company. Severnaya Verf and "Amber" technologically very similar. According to the head of the Vyborg Shipyard Solveva Alexander Ponomarev - the best option for Northern Shipyard.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  franco on Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:30 pm

    Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Militarov on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:00 pm

    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:06 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:17 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

    Not only titanium, many alloys are welded like that, magnesium, some aluminium alloys...

    Also they welded Alpha subs in sections with argon being poured onto weld so to say. It would be mindblowingly expensive to weld major sized sections in chambers.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Singular_Transform on Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:57 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

    Not only titanium, many alloys are welded like that, magnesium, some aluminium alloys...

    Also they welded Alpha subs in sections with argon being poured onto weld so to say. It would be mindblowingly expensive to weld major sized sections in chambers.

    The alpha/sierra submarines are mindblowingly expensive.


    It is cheaper to flood the whole building with argon than to blow contentiously argon onto the hull.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:02 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:Welding in the shipbuilding yards Laughing

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2437835.html

    Mind you special welding but I couldn't resist No

    Welding in inert gas, Argon. There was recently some documentary on Borei subs that featured few minutes of video regarding welding in argon.

    Titanium welding.

    They manufactured the whole Alpha submaines in those suits.

    Not only titanium, many alloys are welded like that, magnesium, some aluminium alloys...

    Also they welded Alpha subs in sections with argon being poured onto weld so to say. It would be mindblowingly expensive to weld major sized sections in chambers.

    The alpha/sierra submarines are mindblowingly expensive.


    It is cheaper to flood the whole building with argon than to blow contentiously argon onto the hull.

    Doubtful its cheaper, where is that building now, because i never saw such module in any Russian shipyard. Place like that would be very famous in engineering circles.

    Small parts and sections are welded in complete argon atmosphere, rest are 99,99% of the time welded with "conventional" protective gas layer formed on the weld itself. But sure, if you can show me 100m long welding chamber i am open minded.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:22 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    Doubtful its cheaper, where is that building now, because i never saw such module in any Russian shipyard. Place like that would be very famous in engineering circles.

    Small parts and sections are welded in complete argon atmosphere, rest are 99,99% of the time welded with "conventional" protective gas layer formed on the weld itself. But sure, if you can show me 100m long welding chamber i am open minded.

    You need to recycle the gas.

    Cost of gas supply to cover the weld of a main submarine part makes the 120 meter long gas chamber cheap.


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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:57 am

    Russian shipbuilding industry in 2016

    According to Anastasia Vedeneyeva in the article "And immediately emerged," published in the newspaper "Kommersant", in 2016 the number handed over to customers by Russian shipyards ships fell by 16%, but their total value increased by 15% to RUB 141.2 billion . The bulk of the revenue shipbuilders continue to ensure the state defense order (SDO), but the cost is handed over civilian vessels increased by 72% last year. According to experts, this trend will continue and in general this year: SDO will provide up to 70% of revenue shipyards, but due to various measures of state support will increase the number of orders and the total value of civil shipbuilding production will increase by 50%.

    At the end of 2016 at Russian shipyards were put 168 ships (66 civilian and 102 military), 16% less than in 2015, it follows from the rating "Infoline-Analysts" "Infoline Shipbuilding Russia Top", which examined "Kommersant" . Total tonnage increased by 3.4% to 219 thousand. Tonnes. Increased and the aggregate value of surrendered vessels: shipbuilding - by 4.4%, to 106.9 billion rubles in civil shipbuilding - 72%, to 34.3 billion rubles..



    Preserved the dominance of the military: in 2016 handed shipbuilding orders quantified occupied more than 60%, in terms of money - more than 75% (but 30% in tonnage). According to forecasts "Infoline-analysts", in 2017 the trend continues: in the state defense order for 30% of the tonnage of vessels scheduled for delivery, in terms of value is about 70%. Sources "Kommersant" in the industry previously noted that the bias in favor of shipbuilding will be stored as the scale of the SDO, and because of the economic situation in the country.

    According to the rating, in terms of tonnage and total cost of surrendered vessels leading position preserves the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC): more than 80% of orders in terms of money on it. In 2016, USC shipyards court passed by 86.1 billion rubles. tonnage of 119.3 thous. tons. As of the first quarter, under construction at the corporation 163 vessels with a total value of 926.3 billion rubles. The second place on the appraised value of orders taken holding "Ak Bars" - 8.9 billion rubles. In the first quarter under construction he still has 24 vessels by 90.4 billion rubles. and 69 thousand. tonnes. Closes the three UCL Holding Vladimir Lisin, who has passed the court in the amount of 2.3 billion rubles. Now in its shipyards built four ships (1.4 billion rubles., And 11.4 thous. Tons).

    According to the calculations "Infoline-Analysts' in the list of enterprises in terms of money are controlled by the USC leader" Admiralty Shipyards ", although in 2016 the value of surrendered factory ships decreased by a third, to 37.2 billion rubles. In second place - also controlled by USC Shipyard "Yantar" in 2016 who passed orders for 27 billion rubles. In third place - a private shipbuilding company "Almaz" has increased over the year, the value of orders handed over by SDO is almost 2.5 times to 11.5 billion rubles. In addition, the top five on the total value of orders entered handed Petersburg "Pella" (for "Kartoteke.Ru" controlled Herbert Tsaturova) and Finnish Arctech Helsinki Shipyard (USC). Arctech was among the leaders by putting a diesel-electric icebreaker Polaris Project AkerARC 130, before the plant is also built ice-class vessels, but the final stages of construction and commissioning were other USC shipyards. Leaders in the tonnage of steel enterprises USC for 2016 "Red Sormovo" and Astrakhan "Lotos". And last year was able to get up on the list for nine positions due to the transfer to the customer two tankers RST 25 and three self-propelled pontoons 6516. The third position is occupied Oka Shipyard UCL, and the leader of the 2015 Vyborg Shipyard USC fell to fifth place.

    According to the head "Infoline-Analysts' Mikhail Burmistrov, in 2017 the total cost of surrendered ships will grow by more than 20%, exceeding 170 billion rubles. The naval shipbuilding he expects growth of more than 15%, to 120 billion rubles, and in civil shipbuilding -. 50%, to more than 50 billion rubles.

    It will be the largest project of the nuclear icebreaker "Arktika", which is being built on the Baltic Plant. The key trend 2016-2017 years Mr. Burmistrov called the formation of the Russian shipowners portfolio of orders for Russian shipyards for new types of passenger ships (two cruise ships ordered "Vodohod" and the Moscow River Shipping Company) and fishing fleets. In the 2018-2020 years it will continue to grow share in the civil fleet of ships surrendered cost.

    Nadezhda Malysheva from PortNews said that government support and financial instruments (leasing), aimed at stimulating shipbuilding industry should increase the number of orders. We can expect growth to vessels "river-sea" in demand, as the government is aimed at the development of inland waterways and the construction of new hydraulic structures, the expert said.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:19 am

    The Ministry of Defense will order a tanker for the Pacific Fleet at the Far Eastern Zvezda Plant

    On March 7, 2017, the Department of Information and Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov, in the framework of his working visit to the defense enterprises of the Far East and Siberia, visited the Far East Zvezda Plant in Primorye.

    During the visit, the deputy head of the military department said that the Russian Defense Ministry and the Zvezda Far East plant in 2017 will sign a contract for the construction of a universal supply vessel - an average marine tanker with a displacement of 20,000 tons for the Pacific Fleet (Pacific Fleet).

    "Taking advantage of the fact that new production capacities for large-capacity construction have been launched at the plant, we will place an order for the construction of an auxiliary fleet - a series of tankers. So, this year it is planned to conclude a contract with the delivery in 2020 of a universal tanker supply vessel, "Yury Borisov said.

    He specified that the displacement of the tanker will be 20 thousand tons and it will provide for the needs of the Pacific Fleet.

    The Deputy Minister of Defense noted that the Zvezda plant is one of the most sought-after assets of the military department, since it is there that the submarine fleet of the Pacific Fleet is being practically renovated and serviced.

    "Therefore, we cherish this plant very much, we are constantly here, we look at how its reconstruction is going on. The civilian component of shipbuilding is very well developed here, "Yury Borisov emphasized.

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    This news is another confirmation that the new shipbuilding complex "Zvezda", being built at JSC "Far East Zvezda Plant" in Bolshoy Kamen (Primorye Territory), contrary to the original plans, has not yet been seriously loaded with commercial orders, and, apparently, the essence will be "stretched" by the state mainly due to budget injections and orders, including the placement of orders through the state defense order. It is noteworthy that the floating unit (dock complex) Zvezda of Project 23380, also for the Russian Navy, was the first unit launched by the construction on the occasion of the launch of the first stage of the Zvezda shipbuilding complex on September 1, 2016.

    The enterprise is being built by a consortium of ZAO Modern Shipbuilding Technologies as part of Gazprombank and GC Rosneft.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:53 am

    Amur Shipbuilding Plant will complete and surrender ships in Nakhodka

    As TASS reported on April 19, 2017, the Amur Shipyard has changed the location of the delivery base in Primorsky Krai, from the end of summer the ships will be returned to the sea not in Bolshoy Kamen, but in Nakhodka. This was reported to the journalists by the chief of the plant's shoal department Ivan Khiz.

    "The new delivery base of the plant will be located in Nakhodka, where all the necessary preparatory work is now going on." On the old base at the shipyard Zvezda in Bolshoy Kamen, the contract expired, there is now the first corvette, but it will also be transferred to a new base, Told Khiz to journalists during a press tour to the Amur Shipyard.

    Khiz added that in the autumn a new corvette will be transported to Nakhodka, which is now being prepared for withdrawal from the shop. "The approximate date for the withdrawal from the shop is July 15. All the shops of the plant are now working on the withdrawal of the ship at this time. After the withdrawal some of the tests will take place at the docking yard at the plant - these are mooring tests, tank tests and others, in order to minimize the work on the delivery basis "- said the head of the stapling shop. In the fall, the first of the two supply vessels for the work with floating semisubmersible drilling rigs, which are being built for Gazprom, will also be overtaken after completion of the outfitting operations.

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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:05 pm

    Flurry of naval shipbuilding activity in Russia these days:

    Ivan Papanin armed icebreaker (pr. 23550)has been laid down yesterday.
    Vladimir Emelyanov minesweeper (pr. 12700) has just been laid down today.
    Grad missile ship (pr. 21631 Buyan-M) will be laid down on the 24th.

    Also upcoming this spring/summer:

    Gremyashy corvette (pr. 20385) will be launched
    Sovershenny corvette (pr. 20380) will be commissioned
    Admiral Makarov frigate(pr. 11536) will be commissioned
    Admiral Gorshkov frigate will be commisioned
    Ivan Gren landing ship will be commissioned
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    Post  Luq man on Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:54 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Also upcoming this spring/summer

    Gremyashy corvette (pr. 20385) will be launched
    Sovershenny corvette (pr. 20380) will be commissioned
    Admiral Makarov frigate(pr. 11536) will be commissioned
    Admiral Gorshkov frigate will be commisioned
    Ivan Gren landing ship will be commissioned

    Also, 2 improved kilos for pacific fleet will be laid down this year.
    Vyshniy Volochek [BUYAN-M] will be commisioned for caspian or black sea fleet this year.
    Maybe first project 22160 Vasily Bykov also in 2017.

    Btw does anyone know if the last two improved kilos for bsf will stay in the baltic or will be transferred later.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Today at 12:18 am

    Man they got ways to go yet with that project only just finished phase 1. Look forward to see what the shipyard will look like when all three are done.

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