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    Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:24 am

    Yes, they have been promising this for some time... a little disappointing that they haven't completed development yet to make an actual operational system.

    More than a little ironic because it was the artillery part of the military that actually paid more than just lip service to UAVs in Soviet times with the Bumblebee being the only operational UAV system in Soviet regular use...
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  George1 on Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:48 am

    Motorized rifle units of the 2nd Combined Arms Army of the Central Military District, within the state defence order, received fifteen Tornado-G MLRS.

    http://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12201418@egNews
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:26 pm

    Heavy flamethrowers unit assumes combat duty in northwest Russia

    The TOS-1A Solntsepyok heavy flamethrower is a multiple launch rocket system, which comprises a BM-1 combat vehicle, a TZM-T transporter-loader and an ammunition load of rockets

    ST. PETERSBURG, November 13. /TASS/. A company armed with TOS-1A Solntsepyok (Scorching Sun) heavy flamethrower systems has been set up within the radiation, chemical and biological defense regiment of the combined arms army in the Western Military District, the District’s press office reported on Tuesday.

    The heavy flamethrowers company is based in the Leningrad Region in northwest Russia, the press office said.

    Before the company was set up, drills were held at a proving range in the Leningrad Region, using Solntsepyok heavy flamethrowers and RPO-A rocket-propelled infantry flamethrowers to practice strikes against enemy engineering fortifications. Now it has been officially announced that a new unit armed with TOS-1A heavy flamethrowers has been set up.

    "A unit of heavy flamethrower systems of the Western Military District has been formed in the Leningrad Region. The regiment has completed establishing the unit of heavy flamethrower systems, which has received TOS-1A Solntsepyok weapons as its armament. Also, reconnaissance units have received the most advanced RKhM-6 chemical reconnaissance vehicles under the defense procurement program this year," Commander of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Regiment Colonel Alexei Suslov was quoted by the District’s press office as saying.

    The TOS-1A Solntsepyok heavy flamethrower is a multiple launch rocket system, which comprises a BM-1 combat vehicle, a TZM-T transporter-loader and an ammunition load of rockets. The TOS-1A heavy flamethrower system is a unique weapon by its incorporated technical solutions, assigned combat missions and combat efficiency and is unrivaled in the world.

    The TOS-1A is capable of firing both thermobaric rockets and smoke-incendiary munitions. The flamethrower is designed to set ablaze and destroy buildings and structures and damage an enemy’s lightly armored vehicles.


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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:42 am

    The grad is a sort of step between nothing and MLRS the usa and uk are missing.

    I suspect the problem is precision.

    You can't fire a single rocket and hit a point target with it at range.

    The other aspect is that the individual munitions would be cheap and simple and could be made in enormous numbers, while the launch platforms are relatively simple and cheap too... and truck the right size would do, so the potential for profit is not really that good...

    It seems that NATO has no area targets and always knows precisely where all of its targets are located, so having a weapon that flattens a large area in a way that makes sure anything there gets hurt bad even if you can't actually see it from the launch area is interesting.

    I know the UK army prides itself on precision rifle fire even from infantry but I have seen plenty of video footage of western troops... not just British... just pointing their rifle in a general direction and firing long bursts not really sure what or where the target actually is...

    That is suppressive fire... I appreciate that is normal... I also remember CNN news docos about Afghanistan showing Soviets firing like that too, and of course criticism of the failure of the Soviets to take villages... normally they resort to artillery or air power to destroy the problem... which is exactly what we seem to see NATO doing today in places like Afghanistan.

    Certainly some sort of direct fire weapon with a range of 1.5-2km or so like an upgraded SPG-9 would be valuable even today, not to mention rocket artillery and indeed 120mm mortar support.

    Regarding these flamethrowers... originally they were intended to clear minefields as the blast wave from the thermobaric rounds lasts longer than with HE detonations and is more effective in setting off mines, but also has the benefit of using up oxygen in tunnels and bunkers because as it burns it consumes the oxygen in the air to do so...
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  dino00 on Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:47 am

    The drone built into the MLRS Smerch missile has been tested

    The first samples of the drone are likely to be sold abroad, since Russia has already identified "structures that ensure the use of drones in the interests of the army."

    The press service of the concern "Tehmash" stated that work on the creation and testing of the UAV launched in the projectile of the Smerch multiple rocket launcher is in the final stage.

    As the General Designer of the Splav Research and Production Association Nikolay Makarovets said earlier, the UAV was developed, which is launched in the Smerch rocket launcher. According to him, the first customer is likely to become a foreign buyer, as in the Russian Federation "structures were identified that ensure the use of UAVs in the interests of the army."

    Recall, the MLRS "Smerch" is a 300-mm caliber Russian rocket launcher system designed to destroy personnel, armored vehicles, as well as artillery and mortar batteries and other targets.

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201811270752-468a.htm

    The delivery time of the drone to the target area is about 150 seconds.

    The MLRS "Smerch" UAV was created according to the aircraft scheme. Its main tasks are to determine wind parameters in the target area, transfer data on the recognition of reconnaissance objects with their coordinates to the command and staff vehicle, and conduct shooting results in real time mode.

    The information provided to the drone reported that the time spent in the air drone is up to half an hour, the mass of the payload - 7 pounds.

    The speed of the UAV is about 100 kilometers per hour, the maximum height is 3000 meters.


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    The UAV is equipped with a TV and an IR camera, the resolution of the observed surface with a flight height of 500 m is at least 0.5 m in the center and 0.7 m at the edges

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201811271118-1myj.htm
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:17 am

    Pretty much the same model they have been showing for 15 years...
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:34 am

    GarryB wrote:Pretty much the same model they have been showing for 15 years...

    Yeah, they've had that thing close to 2 decades, why is now only being tested? Perhaps journalistic folly.
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:53 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Pretty much the same model they have been showing for 15 years...

    Yeah, they've had that thing close to 2 decades, why is now only being tested? Perhaps journalistic folly.

    concept was last 20 years but this one is IMHO updated implementation. Finally they got resources to implement that it.
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  Hole on Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:34 pm


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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  Isos on Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:17 pm

    Hole wrote:

    This can be used for two big long range rockets in place of the 2×6 tubes.
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:39 pm

    Hole wrote:

    where did u find it?
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    Re: Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

    Post  magnumcromagnon Yesterday at 3:40 am

    George1 wrote:
    Hole wrote:

    where did u find it?

    Probably on the Otvaga forums.
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