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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  George1 on Tue May 19, 2015 12:56 am

    TheArmenian wrote:
    - In the last paragraph, we see Yak-130 and Su-30 orders. Why are they not included in the previous orders mentioned before?

    they are for navy

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Tue May 19, 2015 1:05 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Thanks for the numbers franco. My vote.

    Do you have the numbers for helicopter orders.

    413 delivered since 2006. Will work on putting something similar together.


    Also can you explain the following:

    - The Il-62M order ?????

    Delivery was 2009 and there may have been some previous. The long range passenger fleet of the RFAF includes 5-7 Il.62M and 3-5 Tu.154M


    - In the last paragraph, we see Yak-130 and Su-30 orders. Why are they not included in the previous orders mentioned before?

    Last group is Navy orders.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Tue May 19, 2015 1:13 am

    mack8 wrote:Good posts Franco. Have you kept track of helicopter deliveries by any chance? Thanks.

    413 since 2006 but will work on putting something together.

    Just to chip in, regarding modernized Su-24Ms there is also the Gefest&T upgrade adding the SVP-24 system, they do fly already in several units, but it's not clear (to me at least) exactly how many, some blogs like bmpd mentioned as many as 50 upgraded as of last year.

    I have seen a few mentions of 50 also but more of 40. I tend to go low.

    As for the MiG-29s, again it's unclear if the armenian ones and those at Millerovo did received only an overhaul or they were also upgraded, at least one article i read mentioned some sort of upgrade, but if so it's fairly limited, likely focused on the interception capability, so perhaps a N-019M radar, ability to use more modern missiles, GLONASS?

    Upgrading to SM standard allows a ground attack ability with guided weapons. I can't see them doing any less as only 14-16 of these aircraft were the 9-13S variant which is ground attack without guided weapons and the others were strictly 9-13 fighters.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue May 19, 2015 1:23 am

    Regarding the Su-24 upgrades, AFAIK only 24 were upgraded to the M2 version (promoted by Sukhoi). It was then decided to switch to the Gefest-T upgrade

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Tue May 19, 2015 1:35 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Regarding the Su-24 upgrades, AFAIK only 24 were upgraded to the M2 version (promoted by Sukhoi). It was then decided to switch to the Gefest-T upgrade

    Thanks for the info. Nothing is easy here trying to track the Russian Forces Wink

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Wed May 20, 2015 10:20 pm



    MOSCOW, May 20 /TASS/. The Russian army will receive over 250 aircraft, including planes, helicopters and drones, in 2015, Russia’s First Deputy Defense Minister Arkady Bakhin said on Wednesday.

    Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry said that the Russian armed forces were expected to receive about 150 planes and helicopters before year’s end.

    "In 2015, about 250 new aircraft will come in service with the Russian army," Bakhin went on to say.

    He added the receipt of new aircraft could increase many times the risks of huger damage from the loss of aircraft in air accidents.

    Bakhin called on chief commanders of the Russian Air Force and Navy and commanders of military districts to focus on technical retooling of aviation military units and qualitative retraining of all categories of aviation personnel and tighten control over the safety of flights when new aircraft were going to be mastered.

    Would assume this includes rebuilt and new aircraft.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed May 20, 2015 10:59 pm

    franco wrote:

    MOSCOW, May 20 /TASS/. The Russian army will receive over 250 aircraft, including planes, helicopters and drones, in 2015, Russia’s First Deputy Defense Minister Arkady Bakhin said on Wednesday.

    Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry said that the Russian armed forces were expected to receive about 150 planes and helicopters before year’s end.

    "In 2015, about 250 new aircraft will come in service with the Russian army," Bakhin went on to say.

    He added the receipt of new aircraft could increase many times the risks of huger damage from the loss of aircraft in air accidents.

    Bakhin called on chief commanders of the Russian Air Force and Navy and commanders of military districts to focus on technical retooling of aviation military units and qualitative retraining of all categories of aviation personnel and tighten control over the safety of flights when new aircraft were going to be mastered.

    Would assume this includes rebuilt and new aircraft.

    I think that number is so large because they included drones in overall tally. They should keep those 2 things separate.

    And what did he try to say in bolded part?

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Thu May 21, 2015 12:23 am

    "And what did he try to say in bolded part?"

    New technology, new planes, new to pilots, new to ground crews = increased chances of accidents.

    So ensure proper training and controls systems are in place.

    Huger means enormous or colossal.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Sat May 23, 2015 1:37 am

    http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-air-force-navy-receive-200-new-aircraft-2015-more-most-world-air-forces-have-1805100

    Article is pretty basic but the quote below is a fact that most either are not aware of or don't consider. By the way, 67% is a big improvement over the 49% from 2008. As an example of these figures it would take 18 aircraft to maintain a 12 aircraft normal Russian squadron or 16 if you were operating on the American serviceability level, which is one of the highest. The rate varies per different aircraft with some requiring more maintenance per flight hours and of course the age of the aircraft plays a factor. This is why a 2-squadron regiment will have over 30 aircraft assigned to it's air base.


    "The defense minister made it clear that in 2015 the Russian air force’s modernization is a priority for the government. The minister said "the serviceability status (will increase) up to 67 percent," meaning that two out of three aircraft will be ready to fly at any one time. That is not an impressive number: for the U.S. Air Force, that rate was 78 percent in 2013."

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Sat May 23, 2015 2:38 pm

    PLANNED AIR FORCE HELICOPTER FORCE

    The planned force for 2020 is around ~1200 helicopters. Around 1,000 are to be new or rebuilds.

    Attack Helicopters will number ~400;

    Mi-28N - 78/97 by end of 2014. Talks concerning another 60 to be ordered.
    Ka-50 - 10/10. Used for training and testing, not ordered as replaced by Ka-52
    Ka-52 - 64/140. Does not include the K version for the Navy. Have also seen a 146 figure.
    Mi-35M - 33/49.
    Mi-24 - there will probably still be a few in service most likely as trainers. They would include the 24-30 VN versions which were the last produced.

    Transport and Utility Helicopters will number ~800;

    Mi-26T - 16/18 by end of 2014. Plan calls for 48 total including new and rebuilds.
    Mi-8MTR - 3/18. EW /ECM version will be replacing the Mi-8PPS of which there are ~60 so would expect more orders.
    ANSAT-U - 25/32. Used as basic trainers.
    Ka-226 - 25/36. Used as trainers and utility. Would expect more of these or ANSAT's to be ordered (30-40)
    Ka-62 - 0/16. Planned total of the various versions to be ~100.
    Mi-8 AMTSh / MTV-5 - the two present versions under production with ~300 to be produced. Since 2010, 124 delivered of which most would be AMTSh.
    Mi-8 MT / MTV - ~200 will still be in service including the ~30 delivered 2005-2009. Some upgrading of the older versions.
    Mi-2UM - 16-18 were rebuilt to be used as trainers. They are scheduled to be withdrawn by 2020.

    NOTES
    - The Mi-8's are hard to track with all the various models and the orders being small (20-40) at a time. I believe that there have been total orders so far, for 140 AMTSh and 70 MTV-5's, but would not swear to it.
    - Figures 25/32 indicate CONFIRMED deliveries/ordered.
    - Does not include Naval Aviation which presently have ~200 helicopters and will probably have 250 by 2020.
    - Would expect the combined Armed Forces helicopter force to be around 1500 in 2020.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  Werewolf on Sat May 23, 2015 7:46 pm

    franco wrote:PLANNED AIR FORCE HELICOPTER FORCE

    The planned force for 2020 is around ~1200 helicopters. Around 1,000 are to be new or rebuilds.

    Attack Helicopters will number ~400;

    Mi-28N - 78/97 by end of 2014. Talks concerning another 60 to be ordered.
    Ka-50 - 10/10. Used for training and testing, not ordered as replaced by Ka-52
    Ka-52 - 64/140. Does not include the K version for the Navy. Have also seen a 146 figure.
    Mi-35M - 33/49.
    Mi-24 - there will probably still be a few in service most likely as trainers. They would include the 24-30 VN versions which were the last produced.

    Transport and Utility Helicopters will number ~800;

    Mi-26T - 16/18 by end of 2014. Plan calls for 48 total including new and rebuilds.
    Mi-8MTR - 3/18. EW /ECM version will be replacing the Mi-8PPS of which there are ~60 so would expect more orders.
    ANSAT-U - 25/32. Used as basic trainers.
    Ka-226 - 25/36. Used as trainers and utility. Would expect more of these or ANSAT's to be ordered (30-40)
    Ka-62 - 0/16. Planned total of the various versions to be ~100.
    Mi-8 AMTSh / MTV-5 - the two present versions under production with ~300 to be produced. Since 2010, 124 delivered of which most would be AMTSh.
    Mi-8 MT / MTV - ~200 will still be in service including the ~30 delivered 2005-2009. Some upgrading of the older versions.
    Mi-2UM - 16-18 were rebuilt to be used as trainers. They are scheduled to be withdrawn by 2020.

    NOTES
    - The Mi-8's are hard to track with all the various models and the orders being small (20-40) at a time. I believe that there have been total orders so far, for 140 AMTSh and 70 MTV-5's, but would not swear to it.
    - Figures 25/32 indicate CONFIRMED deliveries/ordered.
    - Does not include Naval Aviation which presently have ~200 helicopters and will probably have 250 by 2020.
    - Would expect the combined Armed Forces helicopter force to be around 1500 in 2020.

    Can you please provide a link to that, because 2013 was the last Ka-50 that was flying?

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Sat May 23, 2015 9:29 pm

    "Can you please provide a link to that, because 2013 was the last Ka-50 that was flying?"


    If the Ka-50 is not flying anymore, that makes perfect sense to me. I included it in the totals simple because they exist.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  mack8 on Sat May 23, 2015 9:38 pm

    Good resume Franco, thanks.

    Upgrading to SM standard allows a ground attack ability with guided weapons. I can't see them doing any less as only 14-16 of these aircraft were the 9-13S variant which is ground attack without guided weapons and the others were strictly 9-13 fighters.
    Regarding MiG-29 upgrades, at least concerning the armenian ones i have read that the reason for their alleged upgrade (i'm pretty sure the article mentioned they could now fire R-27ER missiles which regular 9.13 can't) was that as interceptors (their main role) they were severely outclassed by late model turkish F-16C and their AIM-120 missiles. This is why the kind of limited upgrade i mentioned makes sense to me without any air to ground capability because A-G is not their role.

    Mind you, one other possibility is, considering there are about 14 9.13S in VVS service, could it be that some or all those in Armenia are of this version anyway (so no need to upgrade, just overhaul), and if not, where are the 9.13S birds based, Millerovo? Apparently a few are at Lipetsk judging by RP.net photo captions if i'm not mistaken.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  George1 on Sun May 24, 2015 1:25 am

    franco wrote:"Can you please provide a link to that, because 2013 was the last Ka-50 that was flying?"


    If the Ka-50 is not flying anymore, that makes perfect sense to me. I included it in the totals simple because they exist.

    from my own search these numbers are 90% accurate, good work from franco

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Sun May 24, 2015 3:26 am

    mack8 wrote:Good resume Franco, thanks.

    Upgrading to SM standard allows a ground attack ability with guided weapons. I can't see them doing any less as only 14-16 of these aircraft were the 9-13S variant which is ground attack without guided weapons and the others were strictly 9-13 fighters.
    Regarding MiG-29 upgrades, at least concerning the armenian ones i have read that the reason for their alleged upgrade (i'm pretty sure the article mentioned they could now fire  R-27ER missiles which regular 9.13 can't)  was that as  interceptors (their main role) they were severely outclassed by late model turkish F-16C and their AIM-120 missiles. This is why the kind of limited upgrade i mentioned makes sense to me without any air to ground capability because A-G is not their role.

    Mind you, one other possibility is, considering there are about 14 9.13S in VVS service, could it be that some or all those in Armenia are of this version anyway (so no need to upgrade, just overhaul), and if not, where are the 9.13S birds based, Millerovo? Apparently a few are at Lipetsk judging by RP.net photo captions if i'm not mistaken.

    The 9.13's were listed in Millerovo, Armenia, Lipetsk, Kubinka and Akhtubinsk. Have never found where the 9.13S are based. Always suspected Millerovo but no proof. The only difference between the 9.13 and the 9.13S is the ability to conduct ground attack missions so I believe they would look the same externally. On the list that I saw all Armenia and Millerovo aircraft were listed as 9.13's and they were mixed with 9.12's at the other bases.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  mack8 on Sun May 24, 2015 11:00 am

    Franco, the difference between 9.13 and 9.13S is that the S has N-019M radar capable to guide R-77 and R-27ER missiles. As for the ground attack role 9.12, 9.13 and 9.13S can attack ground targets with unguided bombs and rockets, and i need to check, but i think i read that the maximum warload has been increased from 3000kg to 4000kg for a 9.13S, however the munitions are still unguided. Only starting with 9.13SM guided munitions have been introduced.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  Manov on Sun May 24, 2015 10:10 pm

    guys, is there any news about advanced weapons procurement? (kh-31, kh-29, kh-35, kab 500/1500 kr,l,ke, kh-59, rvv bd, sd md)? They need those badly

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  franco on Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:43 pm

    Only 30-35 Il-76MD's will be upgraded to MDM status by 2020.
    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fria.ru%2Fdefense_safety%2F&sandbox=1

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:44 am

    Work plans of Experimental Machine Building Factory (EMZ) named after VM Myasishcheva in the years 2015-2017:


       Il-76MD-90A, IL-78MD 90A (COR) "Kuznetsk-2"
       Development of design documentation IL-90A-78M - April 2015.

       Il-76MD-M / IL-78M2 "Kuznetsk"
       Release of IL-RKD 78M2 - April 2015
       Support of production - November 2015

       LVTS (IL-112V)
       TP Development - March 2015
       RKD Issue - September 2015
       Release RKD (E3 series) - December 2015

       "Porubschik" (complex electronic warfare EW for Tu-214)
       ROC: Participation in the GOP - June 2015
       Correction CD on the results of the GOP, the assignment of the CD - September 2015
       "Porubschik" first serial:
       Support izgotovleniya- October 2015
       "Porubschik" 2nd serial:
       Accompanying production - June 2016
       Porubschik "third serial:
       Support of production - from January 2016. October 2017.

       Ed. 17M (Il-20M)
       Removing comments on the results of GSI, improvement RKD and ECD, assigning letters CD O1 - January 2016.

       Modernization of Il-38N
       Six aircraft - from November 2015. September 2016.
       Eight aircraft - from November 2016 to July 2017.
       Tenth aircraft - from December 2016 to September 2017.

       MS-21
       CD (RCD) - November 2015

       UAV "Odzor"
       CD (RCD) - December 2015
       Maintenance - December 2016

       MTA (work will start in January 2016.)
       Making cabin layout - October 2016
       ETP - April 2017

       PAK-TA (work will start in January 2016.)
       Awan. project - June 2016
       Removing comments avant. project - September 2016
       ETP - November 2017

       IL-96VKP "Link-3C" (work will begin in October 2015.)
       Development of design documentation - June 2017
       Support of production - 2017 and beyond

       IL-96-400TZ (work will begin in April 2015.)
       Development of design documentation - June 2016

       Аn-140 ОКР "Съемщик"" modification of aircraft for observation and probably intelligence. (work will begin in July 2015.)
       Development of design documentation - June 2016
       Maintenance - November 2016
       Participation in ground and flight tests of the LCI - May 2017
       Participation in the CIO - June 2017

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    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:46 am

    So we will have IL-478 based on Il-476, IL-96 Airborne command post variant and a version of An-140 for reconnaissance

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    Post  franco on Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:33 pm

    From this article, 112 new military airplanes in 2015, 88 in 2016 and 114 in 2017.
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1337330.html

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:12 am

    Results of activity of JSC "Rostvertol" in 2014

    State Defense Order.

    Work on the contract with the Russian Defense Ministry to supply Mi-26

    In September it was completed the contract for the supply of Mi-26. In 2014, the troops were supplied 3 Mi-26, and just within the specified contract - 15 [Upon resumption of supplies to the Russian Air Force Mi-26 in 2011. Within four years, there were delivered not 15, but 17 helicopters. All passed in 2014. made available to the air base in the long-range aviation Olenegorsk.]

    Work on the contract for the supply of SDO Mi-35M Defense Ministry.

    In November, it was fully completed the contract for the supply of Mi-35M. In 2014, the troops were supplied 16 cars, but only in the framework of the contract - 27 [Concerning the contract of 1 March 2011. This is the second contract for the Mi-35M. The first of 2010 for 22 cars was probably executed in 2012. As reported in the Russian Defense Ministry releases, ten cars were received at the airbase AA in Rostov-on-Don with the assignment of board numbers 103-112 blue, the other - to the airbase Pushkin, of which only one is confirmed by the board room - 32 red].

    In September 2014 a contract with the Department to repair and service the State Aviation JSC "Helicopters of Russia" in the State soispolneniya contract for servicing of aviation equipment of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the repair of 3 Mi-26 helicopters.

    The contract for completion of the Mi-28N to the Russian Defense Ministry

    In July, a contract with the Department of repair and service of state aviation JSC "Helicopters of Russia" in the State soispolneniya contract for servicing of aviation equipment of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to perform completion of the Mi-28N to the bulletin.


    Exports


    • A contract for the supply of 6 Mi-35M in Nigeria. In this country has operated Mi-35P manufactured by JSC "Rostvertol".


    • In November 2014 it was carried out the delivery of the 4th, the final batch of Mi-35M for the Brazilian Air Force in the framework of the concluded contract in late 2008.


    • In August it carried out the delivery of the first batch of 3 Mi-28NE for foreign customer [Iraq].


       Overhaul of Mi-35M Air Force of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
       In 2014, for the first time in the history of "Rostvertol" started repair of Mi-35M in the interests of foreign customers

       In September, a demonstration of the Mi-35M and Mi-28NE delegation of Kazakhstan.
    The Ministry of Defence of the country is considering updating its helicopter fleet, in connection with which "Rostvertol" was sent a request for proposals for commercial helicopters Mi-35M.

       Demonstration of Mi-28NE delegation of the Republic of Peru
       In April, "Rostvertol" visited by the delegation of the Republic of Peru. On the flight test station, a demonstration of the company Mi-28NE. Negotiations on the prospects for the purchase of helicopters "Rostvertol".

       Demonstration of Mi-28NE Brazilian delegation
    In September, "Rostvertol" visited by the delegation of Brazil, which was headed by General of the Army, the commander of ground operations Eduardo Dias da Costa Villas Boas. Demonstration of Mi-28NE. Currently, in Brazil operated Mi-35M. It is considering the acquisition of Mi-28NE.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:13 am

    So all 49 Mi-35M have been delivered, as well as 17 new Mi-26

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    Post  franco on Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:55 am

    Interesting to see if more 35M's will be ordered.

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    Re: Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:54 pm

    Annual Report of PSC "Tupolev" for 2014

    The first relay aircraft Tu-214SR (registration number RA-64526, serial number 026), delivered FGBU "AO" Russian "Administrative Department of the Presidential Administration of Russia under the contract in 2013 to build three such aircraft.

    The main activities in 2014. (I will put only data for the Ministry of Defense aircrafts)

    Create 3x Tu-214SR for the Office of the President
       Under the contract number 1352 of April 10, 2013 between the Company and JSC "UAC":
       · Carry out maintenance work on the manufacture of 1st plane (№026);
       · Designed and decorated additional certification program of ground and flight tests;
       · Held additional certification ground and flight tests;
       · Participated in the testing of the 1st aircraft with equipment "MNIIRS";
       · Corrected CD and ED on the results of tests;
       · Settlement and design documentation assigned letter O1;
       · First aircraft delivered to the customer;
       Currently, works are carried out in support of manufacturing the 2nd, 3rd aircraft (№027,028).


    Construction of 2x Tu-214 for the Russian Defense Ministry
       In reporting this trend is not mentioned, but in the recent procurement of company indicated that the aircraft №029 and №030 built for the needs of the Russian Air Force. Unknown Modification.

    R & D PAK DA
       30 April 2014. №1411 contract with JSC "UAC" in the development of part-sketched technical project development work to create electronic products.

    Design support repair of Tu-142MK
       In 2014. signed a contract with JSC "Beriev" to support the repair of two Tu-142MK aircraft of the Northern Fleet  and one Tu-142MZ for PF.

    Modernization of the Tu-95MS
       Signed a contract with SPE "isopentane FRI":
       1) The contract for the execution of services to support the implementation of 10 tactical operations, 1-2 major operations and 24 ground "runs" ed. "504AP" (missile of class "air - surface") with Tu-95MS №15101;
       2) Additional agreement number 1/95 / M / 2014 to the contract number 6004/95 / M / 2013 on 17.05.2013 for the supply of 11 sets of information-measuring system IMS-32 (ADB) in the amount of 119.5 million rubles. Delivery schedule: 2 sets - 03/01/2015, at 2 sets - 05/01/2015, at 1 set - 01/07/2015, at 2 sets - 10/12/2015, at 2 sets - 02/01/2016, at 2 sets - 04/01/2016

       Signed a contract with JSC "Beriev. GM Beriev "to perform the bulletin number 021-1170BU for retrofitting unit for use of the product" 504B "by restoring the structure of the wing and the installation of beam holders.

    Repair of the Tu-95MS
       As the prime contractor of the state contract for the repair of the Tu-95MS PSC "Tupolev" signed a contract with the direct executors Overhaul:
       1) From 360 to perform ARP 2nd repair of three Tu-95MS with the release in 2015 (Head. №24610; Head. №19215, board №60; Head. №00905, overboard. №20). The cost of work 836.7 million.
       2) to perform Beriev 2nd repair of two Tu-95MS turn to 15.10.2015g. (Head. №19429, board №49; Head. №21914, overboard. №55, which in 2013 carried out work in the amount of disassembly and fault detection). The cost of work 583.8 million.
       3) to perform Beriev 1st stage 2nd repairs in the amount of disassembly and fault detection of two Tu-95MS up to 31.03.2015g. (Head. №21906, overboard. №54; Head. №34444, overboard. №25). The cost of work 113.2 million.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1338967.html

    Translation isnt so accurate but we have a view in Tupolev aircrafts also


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