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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  franco on Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:54 pm

    No, suspect sanctions playing a part right now. Laid down in 2011 and 2013 apparently.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:55 pm

    For Pacific Fleet build at least six corvettes of 20380 project will be built


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:29 pm

    Is there any word for the other fleets to get the same?  To make them economical and longevity, they need to build quite a few.  Since Russia is in desparate need of ships and these smaller ships pack a massive punch, I think it would be ideal to concentrate building more of these for other areas too.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Isos on Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:56 pm

    Is it possible to integrate a naval version of the kh-31 to teregoushchy corvettes ? It has almost the same size of the Uran.

    Does someone has the cost of the Molnyia bought by India (the one with 16 Urans) ?

    If they are used with other Molnyia equiped with Moskits, 1-2 Steregoushchy and 1-2 grigorovich frigate, it would be a very powerfull task force even against US navy. They should propose task force for the export market insted of ships "alone". I'm sure countries like India, algeria and vietnam would be interested.



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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:59 am

    Actually isn't India and Russia creating a modified version of Brahmos that is smaller and lighter and can be carried by a wider range of aircraft platforms... and is faster.

    Bung a huge solid rocket booster to get it airborne and you have a much better anti ship missile for light naval vessels.

    The Kh-31 lacks weight range range from a ground stationary start... not so important for the Kh-35 as it is much slower but has a bigger warhead... (90kg for Kh-31 and 145kg for Uran).


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Isos on Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:06 pm

    GarryB wrote:Actually isn't India and Russia creating a modified version of Brahmos that is smaller and lighter and can be carried by a wider range of aircraft platforms... and is faster.

    Bung a huge solid rocket booster to get it airborne and you have a much better anti ship missile for light naval vessels.

    The Kh-31 lacks weight range range from a ground stationary start... not so important for the Kh-35 as it is much slower but has a bigger warhead... (90kg for Kh-31 and 145kg for Uran).

    Yes I know but the design of Moskit and Kh-31 is so agrassive and beautifull ... It's cheaper too. They give a better disign to the ship, now with VLS they have all the same disign. An Udaloy II is so much cooler than a tico or a gorshkov.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:12 am

    Not to disagree with you, but you do realise that by talking about Moskit and Kh-31 you are covering most of the field in terms of rocket ramjet powered anti ship missiles...

    Both Kh-31 and Moskit are from the 1980s... Kh-31 being a mach 3 600kg missile for tactical aircraft, while Moskit is a 4.5ton mach 2.5 very heavy missile first carried by Sovremmeny class destroyers as well as a surface effect ship and a missile patrol vessel.

    The thing is that the Moskit was replaced by Onyx and Brahmos is a modification of the Yakhont which is the export model of Onyx.
    A Brahmos-M would be an ideal substitution for Moskit as it is much smaller and lighter and faster and longer ranged... in fact the only better option would be the Zircon because it is a scramjet powered mach 7-8 missile but it isn't ready yet...


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:09 pm

    Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"

    http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/598792.html


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:56 am

    George1 wrote:Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"

    http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/598792.html

    They seem to be installing different mast (from 22350 it seems) or I might be wrong, don't speak lingo... confused

    http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/1136592.html

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:01 pm

    The newest corvette "Gremyashchy" will be launched in 2017


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:51 pm

    [quote="PapaDragon"][quote="George1"]Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"



    They seem to be installing different mast (from 22350 it seems) or I might be wrong, don't speak lingo... confused

    Like the picture window size portholes. All they need is a veranda and a few deck chairs, perfect for watching a missile launch.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:06 pm

    Latest composites will make the Russian corvettes and frigates invisible

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2690570&usg=ALkJrhj3y5X7YwI1_4DjZVqHDn7UvV7y1Q


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Isos on Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:29 pm

    http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/ryska-militarfartyg-hotade-smhi-forskare/

    Idk if it was already posted but nice pictures (from 2014) of a Steregushchy with Ka-27 on it, intercepting a dannish reseach vessel. Idk what's writen in the article.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:26 pm


    Another 20380 corvette will be laid in July 2016 at Almaz shipyard. Name is "Reskiy" ("Резкий")

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B072/
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:55 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Another 20380 corvette will be laid in July 2016 at Almaz shipyard. Name is "Reskiy" ("Резкий")

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B072/

    Correction:
    That vessel is going to be laid down in Amur shipyard in the far East. It is an Almaz design.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:41 am

    So we have in building process:

    2038.1
    Komsomolsk Shipyard, Komsomolsk-on-Amur
    Sovershennyy, Laid: 30 June 2006 - Pacific Fleet
    Gromkiy, Laid: 17 February 2012 - Pacific Fleet
    Aldar Tsydenzhapov, Laid: 22 July 2015 - Pacific Fleet
    Reskiy, Laid: July 2016 - Pacific Fleet

    Severnaya Verf, St. Petersburg
    Retiviy, Laid: 20 February 2015
    Strogiy, Laid: 20 February 2015


    20385

    Severnaya Verf, St. Petersburg
    Gremyashchy, Laid: 2 Feb 2012 - Northern Fleet
    Provornyy, Laid: 25 July 2013 - Northern Fleet


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  marat on Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:51 am

    When Amur SY will finally finish Sovershennyy? They need 10 years and ship isnt ready jet....
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:32 pm

    marat wrote:When Amur SY will finally finish Sovershennyy? They need 10 years and ship isnt ready jet....

    Agreed, they really need to sort out this mess with corvette production. This entire series is already obsolete and  freakin' Gosrhkov frigates are being built lot faster than these corvettes at only slightly higher price. To say nothing of Grigorevich class.

    Finish this series, start new models and mind the deadlines FFS...
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  medo on Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:39 pm

    Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles. Twisted Evil
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:49 pm

    medo wrote:Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles. Twisted Evil

    There won't be any more Gremyashy (pr. 20385) corvettes other than the 2 that are building at Severnaya Werf (St. Petersburg). Reason: they cost almost as much as an Admiral Gorshkov class frigate.
    On the other hand there will be more Pr. 20380 class corvettes coming from the Far -East. 3 are being built there currently with a fourth one to be laid out in June 2016.
    As for Severnaya, it is still unsure what they plan to build next. They may continue with 20380 or the newer version (20386). They could also stop corvettes altogether and concentrate on the Gorshkov class frigates. Currently they have 2 more 20380 corvettes building (apart from the two 20385 mentioned above).
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  medo on Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:21 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    medo wrote:Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles. Twisted Evil

    There won't be any more Gremyashy (pr. 20385) corvettes other than the 2 that are building at Severnaya Werf (St. Petersburg). Reason: they cost almost as much as an Admiral Gorshkov class frigate.
    On the other hand there will be more Pr. 20380 class corvettes coming from the Far -East. 3 are being built there currently with a fourth one to be laid out in June 2016.
    As for Severnaya, it is still unsure what they plan to build next. They may continue with 20380 or the newer version (20386). They could also stop corvettes altogether and concentrate on the Gorshkov class frigates. Currently they have 2 more 20380 corvettes building (apart from the two 20385 mentioned above).

    20385 is for northern fleet, while 20380 is for Baltic fleet. With 2 more 20380, which are now in the process of building in Severnaya will bring full number of 6 corvettes for Baltic fleet. Pacific fleet will also get 6 20380 corvettes. Role of Gremyashy corvettes in Norhtern fleet will be different than the role of Gorshkov frigates and considering the importance of Northern fleet, they need 6 of them to protect brown water area, while Gorshkovs will form blue water fleet.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:34 pm

    medo wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:
    medo wrote:Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles. Twisted Evil

    There won't be any more Gremyashy (pr. 20385) corvettes other than the 2 that are building at Severnaya Werf (St. Petersburg). Reason: they cost almost as much as an Admiral Gorshkov class frigate.
    On the other hand there will be more Pr. 20380 class corvettes coming from the Far -East. 3 are being built there currently with a fourth one to be laid out in June 2016.
    As for Severnaya, it is still unsure what they plan to build next. They may continue with 20380 or the newer version (20386). They could also stop corvettes altogether and concentrate on the Gorshkov class frigates. Currently they have 2 more 20380 corvettes building (apart from the two 20385 mentioned above).

    20385 is for northern fleet, while 20380 is for Baltic fleet. With 2 more 20380, which are now in the process of building in Severnaya will bring full number of 6 corvettes for Baltic fleet. Pacific fleet will also get 6 20380 corvettes.  Role of Gremyashy corvettes in Norhtern fleet will be different than the role of Gorshkov frigates and considering the importance of Northern fleet, they need 6 of them to protect brown water area, while Gorshkovs will form blue water fleet.

    Agreed.
    However, some time ago the Navy mentioned that they don't want more 20385. They just are too expensive for the role you mentioned.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  medo on Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:27 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    medo wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:
    medo wrote:Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles. Twisted Evil

    There won't be any more Gremyashy (pr. 20385) corvettes other than the 2 that are building at Severnaya Werf (St. Petersburg). Reason: they cost almost as much as an Admiral Gorshkov class frigate.
    On the other hand there will be more Pr. 20380 class corvettes coming from the Far -East. 3 are being built there currently with a fourth one to be laid out in June 2016.
    As for Severnaya, it is still unsure what they plan to build next. They may continue with 20380 or the newer version (20386). They could also stop corvettes altogether and concentrate on the Gorshkov class frigates. Currently they have 2 more 20380 corvettes building (apart from the two 20385 mentioned above).

    20385 is for northern fleet, while 20380 is for Baltic fleet. With 2 more 20380, which are now in the process of building in Severnaya will bring full number of 6 corvettes for Baltic fleet. Pacific fleet will also get 6 20380 corvettes.  Role of Gremyashy corvettes in Norhtern fleet will be different than the role of Gorshkov frigates and considering the importance of Northern fleet, they need 6 of them to protect brown water area, while Gorshkovs will form blue water fleet.

    Agreed.
    However, some time ago the Navy mentioned that they don't want more 20385. They just are too expensive for the role you mentioned.

    True, but situation now has changed. They have domestic engines for Gremyashy corvettes, but not yet for Gorshkovs. Gremyashy is now fully domestic ship and not much weaker than Grigorovich frigate and could be built in Far East as well. In the mean time, when Saturn will build new domestic engines for both Gorshkov and Grigorovich frigates, they could concentrate to build more Gremyashy corvettes. Why waisting time and waiting few more years forbuilding ships, when Steregushy and Gremyashy corvettes have their domestic engines and could be build without problems with supplies. Navy simply need new ships.
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    Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:44 pm


    Does anyone know what happened with Tiger class corvette concept? It was shown on Naval expo in St. Petersburg last year, it is supposed to be based on Gremashi class.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:22 am

    'Red' Corvette: Russia Ready to Install Engines in Its New Stealth Warship

    The Gremyashchy, a sophisticated new Russian naval ship, will be equipped with domestically made engines, according to the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry.

    The Project 20385 Gremyashchy corvette will get the engines before the end of May 2015, according to the Ministry.

    The Russian Navy had previously planned to equip the corvette with engines produced by the German company MTU. However, like dozens of other contracts with companies from countries which imposed sanctions against Russia in 2014, these plans were scrapped.

    With the four engines due to be transported to the Gremyashchy by the end of May, the warship's state trials will begin in 2017, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

    This multi-role ship is being built at St. Petersburg's Severnaya Verf Shipyard; it is designed for antisubmarine and surface warfare as well as for supporting land operations. The vessel is made of composite materials and incorporates stealth technology, which has considerably reduced its radar and infrared signatures.

    The Gremyashchy has a crew of 99 and is equipped with artillery, missile and anti-submarine weaponry, as well as an advanced radar sytem.
    Its armaments include Kalibr-NK universal missiles, a Redut anti-aircraft missile system and a A-190-01 100mm gun. It also has a hangar for operating a Kamov Ka-27 antisubmarine warfare helicopter.

    The 104-meter-long corvette has a full displacement of 2,200 metric tons and a maximum speed of 27 knots (about 50 kilometers) per hour.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160430/1038879192/russia-corvette-engines.html#ixzz47If3y4wO


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