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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  marat on Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:09 am

    Thank you,

    Sad months of work will be needed to finish it, evenin faster shipyards, i hope they will make it during 2016....
    Do you have any info about Gromky ( same shipyard) or about Gremyashchy or Provorny ?

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:29 am

    marat wrote:Thank you,

    Sad months of work will be needed to finish it, evenin faster shipyards, i hope they will make it during 2016....
    Do you have any info about Gromky ( same shipyard) or about Gremyashchy or Provorny ?

    I want to know when will they start building 20386? Gremyashchy is considered dead end...


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  marat on Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:53 pm

    Even if they are "dead end" they should be finnished as soon as posible, Russia desperately need each modern ship.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:51 am

    marat wrote:Even if they are "dead end" they should be finnished as soon as posible, Russia desperately  need each modern ship.

    I don't think they need that particular type of ship given time and money wasted. And after all this time it is not even remotely modern anymore...

    Start fresh, 20386 or 22800 since they already want to build them, can't be worse than this boondoggle.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:54 am

    Completed ships don't take up shipyard space... and the Russian navy has an enormous range of roles and missions that need to be performed... even a flawed new vessel is better than nothing.

    A bird on the water is worth 1,000 times more than keel frames on the floor of a shipyard...


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:37 pm

    GarryB wrote:Completed ships don't take up shipyard space... and the Russian navy has an enormous range of roles and missions that need to be performed... even a flawed new vessel is better than nothing.

    A bird on the water is worth 1,000 times more than keel frames on the floor of a shipyard...

    Agreed on that.

    What I was saying is: finish the ones still being built but only lay down new types of ships from now on.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:22 am

    Ahhh, yes... I fully agree with that.... Smile


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  AyalaBotto on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:54 pm

    Hi,

    Any idea of the Pennant Number on the hull for the Gremyashchy-class (Project 20385) corvettes?


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  franco on Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:08 pm

    AyalaBotto wrote:Hi,

    Any idea of the Pennant Number on the hull for the Gremyashchy-class (Project 20385) corvettes?


    thanks.
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    Only two in the works and numbers aren't assigned until they are commissioned.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  AyalaBotto on Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:19 pm

    franco wrote:
    AyalaBotto wrote:Hi,

    Any idea of the Pennant Number on the hull for the Gremyashchy-class (Project 20385) corvettes?


    thanks.
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    Only two in the works and numbers aren't assigned until they are commissioned.

    Hi,

    Thanks for the information.
    Any idea regarding the commission date?
    I'm also looking for photos of this class. Any idea where to look?


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  franco on Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:54 pm

    No, suspect sanctions playing a part right now. Laid down in 2011 and 2013 apparently.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:55 am

    For Pacific Fleet build at least six corvettes of 20380 project will be built


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:29 am

    Is there any word for the other fleets to get the same?  To make them economical and longevity, they need to build quite a few.  Since Russia is in desparate need of ships and these smaller ships pack a massive punch, I think it would be ideal to concentrate building more of these for other areas too.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Isos on Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:56 pm

    Is it possible to integrate a naval version of the kh-31 to teregoushchy corvettes ? It has almost the same size of the Uran.

    Does someone has the cost of the Molnyia bought by India (the one with 16 Urans) ?

    If they are used with other Molnyia equiped with Moskits, 1-2 Steregoushchy and 1-2 grigorovich frigate, it would be a very powerfull task force even against US navy. They should propose task force for the export market insted of ships "alone". I'm sure countries like India, algeria and vietnam would be interested.




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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:59 am

    Actually isn't India and Russia creating a modified version of Brahmos that is smaller and lighter and can be carried by a wider range of aircraft platforms... and is faster.

    Bung a huge solid rocket booster to get it airborne and you have a much better anti ship missile for light naval vessels.

    The Kh-31 lacks weight range range from a ground stationary start... not so important for the Kh-35 as it is much slower but has a bigger warhead... (90kg for Kh-31 and 145kg for Uran).


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Isos on Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:06 am

    GarryB wrote:Actually isn't India and Russia creating a modified version of Brahmos that is smaller and lighter and can be carried by a wider range of aircraft platforms... and is faster.

    Bung a huge solid rocket booster to get it airborne and you have a much better anti ship missile for light naval vessels.

    The Kh-31 lacks weight range range from a ground stationary start... not so important for the Kh-35 as it is much slower but has a bigger warhead... (90kg for Kh-31 and 145kg for Uran).

    Yes I know but the design of Moskit and Kh-31 is so agrassive and beautifull ... It's cheaper too. They give a better disign to the ship, now with VLS they have all the same disign. An Udaloy II is so much cooler than a tico or a gorshkov.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:12 am

    Not to disagree with you, but you do realise that by talking about Moskit and Kh-31 you are covering most of the field in terms of rocket ramjet powered anti ship missiles...

    Both Kh-31 and Moskit are from the 1980s... Kh-31 being a mach 3 600kg missile for tactical aircraft, while Moskit is a 4.5ton mach 2.5 very heavy missile first carried by Sovremmeny class destroyers as well as a surface effect ship and a missile patrol vessel.

    The thing is that the Moskit was replaced by Onyx and Brahmos is a modification of the Yakhont which is the export model of Onyx.
    A Brahmos-M would be an ideal substitution for Moskit as it is much smaller and lighter and faster and longer ranged... in fact the only better option would be the Zircon because it is a scramjet powered mach 7-8 missile but it isn't ready yet...


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:09 pm

    Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"

    http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/598792.html


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:56 pm

    George1 wrote:Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"

    http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/598792.html

    They seem to be installing different mast (from 22350 it seems) or I might be wrong, don't speak lingo... confused

    http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/1136592.html


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:01 am

    The newest corvette "Gremyashchy" will be launched in 2017


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:51 am

    [quote="PapaDragon"][quote="George1"]Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"



    They seem to be installing different mast (from 22350 it seems) or I might be wrong, don't speak lingo... confused

    Like the picture window size portholes. All they need is a veranda and a few deck chairs, perfect for watching a missile launch.

    Barely able to look out of a US Zumwalt. Very Happy

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:06 pm

    Latest composites will make the Russian corvettes and frigates invisible

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2690570&usg=ALkJrhj3y5X7YwI1_4DjZVqHDn7UvV7y1Q


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Isos on Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:29 pm

    http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/ryska-militarfartyg-hotade-smhi-forskare/

    Idk if it was already posted but nice pictures (from 2014) of a Steregushchy with Ka-27 on it, intercepting a dannish reseach vessel. Idk what's writen in the article.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:26 pm


    Another 20380 corvette will be laid in July 2016 at Almaz shipyard. Name is "Reskiy" ("Резкий")

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B072/

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:55 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Another 20380 corvette will be laid in July 2016 at Almaz shipyard. Name is "Reskiy" ("Резкий")

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B072/

    Correction:
    That vessel is going to be laid down in Amur shipyard in the far East. It is an Almaz design.

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