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    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:46 pm

    Pretty close.
    If my eyes were not deceiving me, the fins were a bit more towards the rear.
    I hope someone finds the TvZvezda video somewhere to make sure.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:50 am

    Redut

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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:46 am

    Thanks Morpheus. You got my vote.
    The fins are just like the ones on Viktor's picture (maybe a few centimeters back, hard to tell).
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:03 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Thanks Morpheus. You got my vote.
    The fins are just like the ones on Viktor's picture (maybe a few centimeters back, hard to tell).

    Thanks Armenian.


    TR1 wrote:Yes, as I thought from the start.

    It is a small ship, Redut is a pretty potent system on a corvette.

    I stand corrected. I was one of the people that thought there would be 48 of the 9M96/9M96D class missiles in the 12 launcher wells.

    My current assessment is as follows.

    Having twelve of such highly potent missiles in this warship qualitatively represents a very high level of capability but also a low quantity of missiles. Also this arrangement makes inefficient use of the deck area; it is worth noting all of the empty, unused space in each well.

    It is possible to fit, may be, 9 X 9M100 class missiles in each well, but that would equate to a case diametrically opposite to the above situation. A combination of 9M96-class and 9M100-class would still not address a requirement for a moderately large number of moderately capable missiles.

    Based on the above considerations, I think these ships will additionally use a class of moderate-size radar guided missile (similar to 9M338 or 9M339 class) where four of each can fit in each well.

    My calculations show that the 9M338-class and the 9M339-class of missiles have a fuselage diameter of about 195 mm; TLC diameter is 240 mm. 9M96/9M96D missiles, on the other hand, have fuselage diameters of 240 mm.

    Also to consider is, for example, Agat's "9B-1103M-150" Ka band active seeker which is designed for missiles with fuselage diameters of 150 mm.

    In conclusion, I think the load-out would include a few larger missiles, a few smaller missiles, and many medium-size ones.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:11 am

    It is supposed to be a universal launcher, so I would expect a range of different tube liners for different weapons used.

    Perhaps this is a test tube liner with monitoring equipment and recording equipment and sensors fitted, with the real launch liners allowing more missiles to be carried.
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:37 pm

    Or this is the real thing and we can stop the wishful thinking that anything more than 1 9M96 sized missile was ever intended for each cell.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:41 pm

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:47 am



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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:23 am

    But Sigma itself could not send correcting signals to missiles. Engagement radars do, so 9M96 missile from Steregushi corvette still depend on radar on ship or on information received from Sigma before launch. It could not receive correcting signal from it.

    Why could it not send a new intercept location for the missile in flight?

    We are not talking about a continuous SARH beam that has to be kept on the target till impact... the A-100 is supposed to be able to take over S-400 guidance to ensure kills at max range even if the launch site is not in line of site with the target.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:52 am

    I can be wrong here, but for whatever it's worth I would like to make the following observations.

    By comparing the missile in the first three pictures with the missile in the fourth (older) picture, it seems that the location of the control thrusters have moved forward with respect to the missiles longitudinal axis. This may point to the possibility that the newer pictures show a newer variant of the missile which uses more compact guidance electronics ahead of its thruster section.

    The thruster design is pretty curious in itself. It may have a design somewhat reminiscent of the solid fuel thrusters used in many of the MIRV buses used in Russian ICBMs and also the solid-fuel thrusters in some of the Russian MARVs, where one or more solid-fuel gas generators feed the control nozzles.

    In the missile in the first three pictures, it maybe that the excess gases get vented out when the thrusters aren't thrusting. This aspect of the design can lead to a lighter gas reservoir.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:20 pm

    Looks like the Brits are getting nervous, it's like they don't know that the Russian corvette was in international waters, then again the Atlanticist-supremacists rarely ever take international law seriously, nor does anyone ever hold them accountable for breaking international law:

    Russian stealth corvette put British Navy on alert off Danish coast - media

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    A British frigate was dispatched to track a mysterious battleship that covertly sneaked in close to Denmark’s coast. The ship turned out to be Russian stealth corvette conducting a complex checkout of battle systems, according to British media.

    Russian naval drills in the Baltic Sea drew some heat after British HMS Montrose (a type 23 frigate) had to establish line-of-sight range with an unidentified warship cruising off the territorial waters of NATO-member Denmark on June 19.

    In harsh conditions of 30 knot winds, British sailors identified the warship as Russia’s 104-metre-long RFS Soobrazitelny (Project 20381), Steregushy-class stealth corvette, armed with a vast arsenal of anti-ship and air-defense missiles, and anti-submarine torpedoes.

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    “We picked up a vessel on our radar that was not showing any of the normal behavior expected of merchant vessels or allied warships,” said Lieutenant Chloe Lea, HMS Montrose’s watch officer, as quoted by the Daily Mail.

    "We have seen the Russians operate a lot in this area, but this is the closest we have seen them,” she said.

    The Royal Navy’s HMS Montrose, based in Plymouth, has a crew of 205 and is armed with Sea Wolf missiles, Harpoon missiles, and Sting Ray torpedoes.

    The RFS Soobrazitelny’s basic weapon is an X-35 (NATO code SS-N-25 Switchblade) Uran anti-ship missile complex, Redut anti-air missiles and Paket–NK torpedoes.

    Both Russian warships and aircraft were conducting routine maneuvers in international waters, so the British ship left the area.

    While HMS Montrose was tracking Soobrazitelny, a Russian Ilyushin IL-20 “Coot” maritime patrol aircraft was circling the British ship, analyzing the radar target signature of the Royal Navy destroyer.

    “Both the Russian vessel and aircraft appeared to be carrying out their normal business,” the British Ministry of Defense acknowledged in a statement.

    HMS Montrose was taking part in the BALTOPS multinational reinforced exercise that included 14 countries, the biggest NATO military drills in Eastern Europe since the Ukraine political crisis entered its critical phase.

    “All our interaction so far has been professional and effective, and we have gained huge benefit from working so closely with our allies in such a busy and challenging environment,” said Commander James Parkin, commanding officer of HMS Montrose.

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    Three warships of the Steregushy-class stealth corvette series, the prototype Stereguschy, accompanied by Soobrazitelny and Boiky production line ships, have taken part in the latest naval drills, conducting missile firing tests and practicing landings of on-board helicopters in various conditions, including at night time and in motion.

    Two days prior to the latest naval encounter, three RAF Typhoon fighter jets were scrambled to head off four separate groups of Russian aircraft taking part in drills in the Baltic.

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    Proekt 20380

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    Post  Austin on Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:48 am

    JANES:Steregushchiy frigate programme makes progress, but faces obstacles
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:46 am

    Austin wrote:JANES:Steregushchiy frigate programme makes progress, but faces obstacles

    Well ,by the info i have seen on internet ,it appears that the stergushchy was a temporary class ,until they had
    fixed all the problems with the more modern launchers and weapons. According to wiki the Gremyashchy-class corvette Is the replacement of the Sterengushchiy..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremyashchy-class_corvette

    according to this list of orders..

    http://russiamil.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/summary-of-russian-navy-ship-construction/

    There will be only 5 sterngushy with some already done.. and 10 from the Gremyashchy class corvette.

    So the misconception could be ,the believe that Russia plan to build many sterengushchiy when is only a temporary
    warship until the more advanced Gremyashchy-class corvette.

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    Post  Viktor on Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:58 pm

    4th project 20380 is in the house  russia  thumbsup 

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    Post  calripson on Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:39 am

    What is taking so long to complete the ships for the Pacific Fleet ? Is the shipyard in the Far East even capable of completing these ships /
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    Post  Mike E on Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:20 am

    The Russian naval builders are somewhat "loaded" at the moment. Not only that, but they have been inefficient, so hopefully they can speed things up.
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    Post  T055 on Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:59 pm

    calripson wrote:What is taking so long to complete the ships for the Pacific Fleet ? Is the shipyard in the Far East even capable of completing these ships /

    They've been very slow, no doubt about that. As with everything else. But al least 4th one will be inducted soon. It's not much at all or even close to original plans, but I guess it's better than nothing.

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    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:17 pm

    Well, at least they are working on making naval builders more efficient!
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    Post  Austin on Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:35 am

    Which ship is this and how many are being built ?

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:13 am

    Austin wrote:Which ship is this and how many are being built ?

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    Proekt 20385 variant of Proekt 20380. As of 2013, at least 10 were either being built or planned.
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    Post  Austin on Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:06 pm

    20385 looks superb , Any idea on how many SAM and AShM missile does it carries and what time , What is the CIWS system on it ?
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    Post  Mike E on Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:29 pm

    Austin wrote:20385 looks superb , Any idea on how many SAM and AShM missile does it carries and what time , What is the CIWS system on it ?
    I believe it is 8 UKSK and 8 Redut cells. - 16 cells. Two AK-630's of some variant (?).
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:49 pm

    Redut in action russia

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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:35 pm

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