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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:35 pm

    That 20385 model above is outdated, I am pretty sure all the 20385s have the new unified mast.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:58 am

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354059&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354060&download=2&type=.jpg

    Stoiky today, probably will be completed sometime 1st quarter next year.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:50 pm

    http://www.balancer.ru/sites/me/vk/vk/cs402828/v402828184/aa0e/O_ph6T4ss08.jpg

    Gremyshy under construction @ Severnaya.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:12 pm

    the construction is too slow
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:42 pm

    Stoikiy to start trials in about a week
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:02 pm



    Stoiky soon to be in service. Can't wait for photos of the Baltic squadron of 4 in action together.

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    Post  calripson on Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:49 pm

    Baltic and Caspian fleet modernizations going well, Black Sea Fleet will start to rebuild soon(improved kilo and Grigorovich) as will Northern (Gorshkov and Yassen and 20381). Pacific Fleet seems to get no love and those shipyards in the Far East haven't proven they can produce in a timely manner. It would make sense to me to assign some Gorshkov class, maybe improved kilos, 20381 ect to the Pacific Fleet.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:23 pm

    Bigger ships will go to North and Pacific, so they will have to wait their turn. BSF was a priority due to age of most of the fleet, once Yantar is done with them we will see what they build and for what fleet. Same with Baltisky and its current 636 load.

    Like you said Pacific Fleet needs Amur Shipbuilding and Zvezda to get themselves into shape (among others), along with that new Pacific shipyard.
    The mistrals are going to need escorts....
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:12 am

    Uh, when I said Baltisky I meant Admirality. Ooops.
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    "Stoiky" ready for state tests

    Post  zg18 on Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:59 pm

    "Stoiky" ready for state tests



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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:17 pm

    Stoikiy successfully tested 9M96 (air defense)  thumbsup 

    Corvette "Resistant" successfully tested air defense and communication

    There where some issues with this (reported in Almaz-Antey 2012 report) and Im glad this is over now
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Deep Throat on Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:20 am

    Viktor wrote:There where some issues with this (reported in Almaz-Antey 2012 report) and Im glad this is over now

    Viktor , is it not possible to upgrade the 76mm or 127 mm Naval guns to 137mm or 155mm guns ?

    BAE Systems is overhauling and upgrading two Mk 45 naval guns, bringing them to the 5-inch, 62-caliber Mk 45 Mod 4 configuration for US destroyers.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:29 am

    Viktor , is it not possible to upgrade the 76mm or 127 mm Naval guns to 137mm or 155mm guns ?

    BAE Systems is overhauling and upgrading two Mk 45 naval guns, bringing them to the 5-inch, 62-caliber Mk 45 Mod 4 configuration for US destroyers.

    That is what the hold up has been about... vessels that in the Soviet Navy would have been fitted with 76mm guns are getting 100mm guns and vessels that would have gotten 100mm guns are getting 130mm guns. Likely the vessels with 130mm guns (Destroyers and Cruisers like Sovremmeny and later model Kirovs) will likely get 152mm guns.


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Deep Throat on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:19 pm

    GarryB wrote:That is what the hold up has been about... vessels that in the Soviet Navy would have been fitted with 76mm guns are getting 100mm guns and vessels that would have gotten 100mm guns are getting 130mm guns. Likely the vessels with 130mm guns (Destroyers and Cruisers like Sovremmeny and later model Kirovs) will likely get 152mm guns.


    Hey thanx Garry . So , just to be clear are the 76 mm guns been upgraded to 100mm , 130 mm or are they replacing the 76mm with news 100 mm , 130 mm guns ?
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:43 am

    Hey thanx Garry . So , just to be clear are the 76 mm guns been upgraded to 100mm , 130 mm or are they replacing the 76mm with news 100 mm , 130 mm guns ?

    The corvettes that are the subject of this thread would have gotten an armament in Soviet times of a single 76mm gun and probably either two 30mm gatling turrets or perhaps a single turret and an SA-N-4 naval OSA equivalent and perhaps 4-6 large anti ship missiles like SS-N-22 Moskit.

    Fitting a 100mm gun would have been out of the question because of the weight of the 100mm guns.

    The Corvettes being made now will be fitted with 100mm guns that weigh about the same as the old 76mm gun but with a much heavier shell fired over much greater range, plus much more heavily armed in terms of other weapons and choices.

    For instance the single UKSK launcher will allow it to carry 8 Onyx supersonic anti ship missiles, but could just as easily carry anti submarine missiles that deliver torpedoes to targets 40km away at mach 2.5, or land attack cruise missiles able to hit targets 2,500km away or any combination of these weapons.

    They have developed new light weight 100mm and 130mm guns that are the weight of 76mm and 100mm guns respectively.

    The new 152mm gun was developed with the Army and in the army it is entering service as the Koalition. It has an effective range of about 70km and has Glonass/laser guidance to allow precision targeting.


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:54 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgMgUk2V70

    Great photos of the frigates on patrol! You can see the combat information center.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:16 am

    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgMgUk2V70

    Great photos of the frigates on patrol! You can see the combat information center.

    Cool :3


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Austin on Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:14 pm

    A Documentary video hosted by Haydn Gwynne, published by BBC in 2013 about Cold War NATO submarines struggle to counter the advancing of Soviet submarines

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:02 pm

    Austin wrote:A Documentary video hosted by Haydn Gwynne, published by BBC in 2013 about Cold War NATO submarines struggle to counter the advancing of Soviet submarines
    Is there anything in this BBC gibberish related to proekt 20380?
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:47 am

    http://www.flotprom.ru/news/?ELEMENT_ID=164194

    What the.

    The contract with Aur over 20380 construction had DOUBLE the price the MOD is paying for one ship. The first ship was for 6.5 billion rubles, now the contract is for 13 billion rubles.
    Yes, you heard that right. For that sort of money Amur better turn into a magic yard.

    And this isn't even for 20385!!!


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  xeno on Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:29 am

    Amur Shipyard has been totally ruined during past 20 years. MOD knows it very well and is actually rebuilding the shipyard(infrastructure and staff recruiting and training, etc).
    BTW I would rather pay 400M dollars for a 20381 instead of a 11356M...
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:39 am

    TR1 wrote:http://www.flotprom.ru/news/?ELEMENT_ID=164194

    What the.

    The contract with Aur over 20380 construction had DOUBLE the price the MOD is paying for one ship. The first ship was for 6.5 billion rubles, now the contract is for 13 billion rubles.
    Yes, you heard that right. For that sort of money Amur better turn into a magic yard.

    And this isn't even for 20385!!!


    Well, if it comes with restructuring the facility, modernize it, and training staff, then I have to say it will be money well spent. If not, then wow.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Austin on Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:38 am

    Looking at the way SY rips of money from  MOD ......I am quite certain they wont be able to meet Navy SAP 2020 needs within alloted money ...... not to mentioned the economy problem does not help either.

    Generally for production batches the cost is lower over lead ship but here is exactly the opposite.
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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:26 am

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/821840.html#comments

    First 20380 from Amur is expected at the earliest in late 2015.
    So probably 2016.

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