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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:51 pm

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=338096&download=2&type=.jpg
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    Boikii.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:27 am

    http://forums.airbase.ru/2012/03/t85910,34--storozhevye-korabli-korvety-proekta-20380-stereguschij-5.html

    Superb photos of 20380 on last several pages of the thread.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:47 am

    http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/dmirg78/album/353629/?&p=10

    Good photos of Soobrazitelny.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:25 pm

    Great photos of the CORVETTE TYPE «GREMYASHY» PROJECT 20385
    First unit is under construction.

    http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/20385_01.html


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Viktor on Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:53 pm

    Second serial 20385 thumbsup 


    "Severnaya Verf" laid the first Project 20385 corvette "Agile"

    JSC Shipbuilding Plant "Severnaya Verf" 25 July 2013 laid the first production Corvette Project 20385 "Agile", reports IAA "IAA." Project 20385 corvette designed by the Central Marine Design Bureau "Almaz"). Multipurpose ship near maritime zone of the project 20385 is designed to combat surface ships, submarines, to provide air defense and artillery support for the landing and amphibious operations. "Severnaya Verf" dates back to 1912. Production capacity of the shipyard are designed for repetitive construction, modernization and repair of surface ships and commercial vessels. For a hundred years the shipyard has built for Russian Navy and export more than 200 surface combat ships of total displacement of more than 500 tons and more than 200 commercial vessels of various types. "Severnaya Verf" Resolution of the Russian Government appointed the main supplier of the frigate class ships (Project 22350 ) and a corvette (Project 2038/20385), the decision of the Federal Service for Defense Contracts (Rosoboronzakaz) is included in the register of the only suppliers of Russian weapons and military equipment as the sole supplier of vessels communications project 18280.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Austin on Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:32 pm

    http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/819686.html
    16 corvettes to be put into service of Russian Navy before 2020

    The Russian Navy will put into service 16 corvettes of the near maritime zone before 2020, Russian Deputy Defence Minister Yuri Borisov told Itar-Tass on Thursday.

    Borisov was participating in a festive ceremony of laying the first Project 20385 serial corvette Provorny at the shipyard Northern Wharf on Thursday.

    In his words, the shipbuilders of the Northern Wharf mainly fulfil the orders to build ships of this type.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Viktor on Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:54 pm

    Interesting - project 20386 / further modernization

    According to the chief engineer of the Central Design Bureau "Almaz" Konstantin Golubev, currently being developed improved project 20386. Development time and technical details of the project Golubev did not disclose, but said that the development of the ship is "a reference to the Russian arms.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:58 pm

    Austin wrote:http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/819686.html
    16 corvettes to be put into service of Russian Navy before 2020

    The Russian Navy will put into service 16 corvettes of the near maritime zone before 2020, Russian Deputy Defence Minister Yuri Borisov told Itar-Tass on Thursday.

    Borisov was participating in a festive ceremony of laying the first Project 20385 serial corvette Provorny at the shipyard Northern Wharf on Thursday.

    In his words, the shipbuilders of the Northern Wharf mainly fulfil the orders to build ships of this type.

    This is what we call, the art of talking out of ones behind.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:40 am

    Viktor, the article you posted says nothing of a 20386 model. Did you post the correct link?

    There are some differences between the first two 20385 ships (Gremyashyy and Provorny).
    For example: look at the one versus two masts.

    This is the second unit that was just laid down: Provorny



    And this is the first one: Gremyashyy


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Viktor on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:33 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Viktor, the article you posted says nothing of a 20386 model. Did you post the correct link?

    I dont know. The link works for me fine.


    Anyway all that is said about 20386 I quoted. Basically it is said that 20386 is in development and who said that - no info about the ship.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:35 pm

    That 20385 model above is outdated, I am pretty sure all the 20385s have the new unified mast.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:58 am

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354059&download=2&type=.jpg
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    Stoiky today, probably will be completed sometime 1st quarter next year.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:50 pm

    http://www.balancer.ru/sites/me/vk/vk/cs402828/v402828184/aa0e/O_ph6T4ss08.jpg

    Gremyshy under construction @ Severnaya.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:12 pm

    the construction is too slow

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:42 pm

    Stoikiy to start trials in about a week

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:02 pm



    Stoiky soon to be in service. Can't wait for photos of the Baltic squadron of 4 in action together.

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    Post  calripson on Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:49 pm

    Baltic and Caspian fleet modernizations going well, Black Sea Fleet will start to rebuild soon(improved kilo and Grigorovich) as will Northern (Gorshkov and Yassen and 20381). Pacific Fleet seems to get no love and those shipyards in the Far East haven't proven they can produce in a timely manner. It would make sense to me to assign some Gorshkov class, maybe improved kilos, 20381 ect to the Pacific Fleet.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:23 pm

    Bigger ships will go to North and Pacific, so they will have to wait their turn. BSF was a priority due to age of most of the fleet, once Yantar is done with them we will see what they build and for what fleet. Same with Baltisky and its current 636 load.

    Like you said Pacific Fleet needs Amur Shipbuilding and Zvezda to get themselves into shape (among others), along with that new Pacific shipyard.
    The mistrals are going to need escorts....

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:12 am

    Uh, when I said Baltisky I meant Admirality. Ooops.

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:17 pm

    Stoikiy successfully tested 9M96 (air defense)  thumbsup 

    Corvette "Resistant" successfully tested air defense and communication

    There where some issues with this (reported in Almaz-Antey 2012 report) and Im glad this is over now

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Deep Throat on Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:20 am

    Viktor wrote:There where some issues with this (reported in Almaz-Antey 2012 report) and Im glad this is over now

    Viktor , is it not possible to upgrade the 76mm or 127 mm Naval guns to 137mm or 155mm guns ?

    BAE Systems is overhauling and upgrading two Mk 45 naval guns, bringing them to the 5-inch, 62-caliber Mk 45 Mod 4 configuration for US destroyers.


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:29 am

    Viktor , is it not possible to upgrade the 76mm or 127 mm Naval guns to 137mm or 155mm guns ?

    BAE Systems is overhauling and upgrading two Mk 45 naval guns, bringing them to the 5-inch, 62-caliber Mk 45 Mod 4 configuration for US destroyers.

    That is what the hold up has been about... vessels that in the Soviet Navy would have been fitted with 76mm guns are getting 100mm guns and vessels that would have gotten 100mm guns are getting 130mm guns. Likely the vessels with 130mm guns (Destroyers and Cruisers like Sovremmeny and later model Kirovs) will likely get 152mm guns.


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  Deep Throat on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:19 pm

    GarryB wrote:That is what the hold up has been about... vessels that in the Soviet Navy would have been fitted with 76mm guns are getting 100mm guns and vessels that would have gotten 100mm guns are getting 130mm guns. Likely the vessels with 130mm guns (Destroyers and Cruisers like Sovremmeny and later model Kirovs) will likely get 152mm guns.


    Hey thanx Garry . So , just to be clear are the 76 mm guns been upgraded to 100mm , 130 mm or are they replacing the 76mm with news 100 mm , 130 mm guns ?

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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  GarryB on Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:43 am

    Hey thanx Garry . So , just to be clear are the 76 mm guns been upgraded to 100mm , 130 mm or are they replacing the 76mm with news 100 mm , 130 mm guns ?

    The corvettes that are the subject of this thread would have gotten an armament in Soviet times of a single 76mm gun and probably either two 30mm gatling turrets or perhaps a single turret and an SA-N-4 naval OSA equivalent and perhaps 4-6 large anti ship missiles like SS-N-22 Moskit.

    Fitting a 100mm gun would have been out of the question because of the weight of the 100mm guns.

    The Corvettes being made now will be fitted with 100mm guns that weigh about the same as the old 76mm gun but with a much heavier shell fired over much greater range, plus much more heavily armed in terms of other weapons and choices.

    For instance the single UKSK launcher will allow it to carry 8 Onyx supersonic anti ship missiles, but could just as easily carry anti submarine missiles that deliver torpedoes to targets 40km away at mach 2.5, or land attack cruise missiles able to hit targets 2,500km away or any combination of these weapons.

    They have developed new light weight 100mm and 130mm guns that are the weight of 76mm and 100mm guns respectively.

    The new 152mm gun was developed with the Army and in the army it is entering service as the Koalition. It has an effective range of about 70km and has Glonass/laser guidance to allow precision targeting.


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    Re: Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

    Post  TR1 on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:54 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgMgUk2V70

    Great photos of the frigates on patrol! You can see the combat information center.

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