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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon May 06, 2019 3:30 pm

    medo wrote:Su-34 PESA radar V004 have 15kW peak power and range of 370 km. I know, you use capabilities of this radar from prototype in nineties and even that radar was comparable with zaslon in MiG-31. Serial Su-34 have well upgraded radar with increased range to 370 km comparing to 200 -250 km range of prototype from nineties.

    The V004 certainly doesn't have those capabilities. It is about as cheap of a multi-function radar as one can produce.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon May 06, 2019 7:36 pm

    https://www.sukhoi.org/products/samolety/254/

    This is the info about the radar for Su-32 (not local 34). So there is no doubt that V004 is far more advanced now
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon May 06, 2019 11:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:https://www.sukhoi.org/products/samolety/254/

    This is the info about the radar for Su-32 (not local 34). So there is no doubt that V004 is far more advanced now

    Those are the same specs listed for the reveal at MAKS 2005, nothing about the capabilities of V004 has changed.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue May 07, 2019 12:14 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:https://www.sukhoi.org/products/samolety/254/

    This is the info about the radar for Su-32 (not local 34). So there is no doubt that V004 is far more advanced now

    Those are the same specs listed for the reveal at MAKS 2005, nothing about the capabilities of V004 has changed.

    Yes they have like everything else.

    Bars was 140km at first.  Now over 300km for adjustments.  This is actually documented.

    Things don't sit idle.  ZaslonM/AM is not same as Zaslon.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue May 07, 2019 8:59 am

    miketheterrible wrote:

    Yes they have like everything else.

    Bars was 140km at first.  Now over 300km for adjustments.  This is actually documented.

    Things don't sit idle.  ZaslonM/AM is not same as Zaslon.

    Then post some new specs because detecting a railway bridge at 100km isn't new. It is still only detecting a vehicle at 30km.
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    Post  Isos on Wed May 08, 2019 1:35 pm

    Maybe they need to stop the production of su-34 and shift to su-64, twin seat bomber of su-57, once su-57 start production.

    Family of planes like the armata family. It will reduce the price per fighters as more will be build.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 08, 2019 2:15 pm

    I think more details will emerge when Su-34M debuts
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    Post  medo on Wed May 08, 2019 6:44 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:https://www.sukhoi.org/products/samolety/254/

    This is the info about the radar for Su-32 (not local 34). So there is no doubt that V004 is far more advanced now

    Those are the same specs listed for the reveal at MAKS 2005, nothing about the capabilities of V004 has changed.

    Those specs are from early prototype from nineties. That radar is not in Su-34, because RuAF didn't accept it and was than upgraded. RuAF Su-34 have upgraded radar according to RuAF needs. Su-34 is very important fighter-bomber in RuAF and we could well see its value in Syria. There is a good reason, why Russia didn't bring much info for that upgraded radar.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu May 09, 2019 2:22 am

    Information about export models is generally easy to get, but in service equipment is secret and they have no real reason to give that sort of information to anyone.

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