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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:57 am

    Tehran Issues Stern Warning as Saudis Launch Persian Gulf War Games

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20161007/1046080185/terhan-warns-saudi-persian-drills.html


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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:02 pm

    Atallah said that Auon has received greater support from parties closer to Iran, than from parties with ties to Syria.

    "Even Saudi Arabia and the Americans have conceded his presidency, in one way or another. It was actually more of a win for Iran over Syria, in terms of actually getting him to the presidential palace."

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610311046934869-lebanon-president-election/


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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:50 am

    Arab countries cut diplomatic ties with Qatar

    Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates accuse Qatar of financing terrorism and undermining security in the region

    MOSCOW, June 5. /TASS/. Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates said on Monday they were breaking off diplomatic relations with Qatar, accusing it of supporting terror.

    Bahrain blamed Qatar for "media incitement, support for armed terrorist activities and funding linked to Iranian groups to carry out sabotage and spreading chaos in Bahrain." Authorities of Bahrain have given Qatar’s citizens fourteen days to leave the country.

    The Saudi Foreign Ministry said in a communique posted in Twitter the country had used its sovereign right guaranteed under international law to break off relations with Qatar to protect its security against the threats of terrorism and extremism.

    Egyptian news services said Cairo was severing relations with Qatar over the latter's reported support to terrorist organizations, including the Muslim Brotherhood.

    All the four nations said they were also breaking off land, sea and air contacts with Qatar.

    Later Yemen also announced it was severing diplomatic relations with Qatar, the Al Arabiya TV channel reported. "The government has accused Doha of supporting extremist groups in the country and also backed a decision of the Arab coalition to halt Qatar’s participation in the military operation in Yemen," the TV channel said.

    The interim government of Libya also followed suit declaring that it will cut diplomatic ties with Qatar.

    Earlier in the day, the command of the Arab coalition led by Riyadh announced the decision on expelling Qatar from the alliance struggling against the Houthi rebels in Yemen because of its "practices that strengthen terrorism" and its support to groups "including al-Qaeda and Daesh [IS], as well as dealing with the rebel militias."

    Hamid Aboutalebi, deputy chief of staff of Iran's President Hassan Rouhani, wrote on Twitter that the decision of the Arab countries will destabilize the situation in the region. "The era of cutting diplomatic ties and closing borders is over … it is not a way to resolve crisis. These countries have no other option but to start regional dialogue," he tweeted.
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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  nomadski on Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:34 pm

    Always secure all advantages before going to war . They rush into war , by terror attacks . Since they can not secure any advantages by waiting . Iranian IRGC and security forces have vowed retaliation . Of course Iran has a right to retaliate . And a right to interfere in their domestic affairs . But if possible this retaliation should be aimed at securing all the advantages before a hot international war .

    Supporting the democratic forces in the Arabian peninsula ( gather your democratic forces and then mobilise them ) . By aiming to overthrow the despotic monarchies is now a legitimate and permissible aim . Anything and everything apart from military aid to the Arabian revolutionaries . Since the aim is to open people's eyes and not to close them .

    Waiting and increasing security in Iran , or fighting a hot war ( against the terrorists ) in Iran and against the imperialist and monarchist backed forces ( by also increased democracy in Iran ) is the much preferred option . The trick is not fighting a hot international war . For Iran . But securing public and moral support . Both in Iran and in Arab world . Let them make the first definitive move . By launching an aggressive hot war . If they have to . And they imagine like saddam that sowing international and sectarian discord will save their dictatorial rule . For them there is only the dust bin of history .

    Down with saudi royal family . Down with yank imperialist . Down with their proxy terrorists .

    Long live democracy . Long live people power . Long live peace .

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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  par far on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:29 am

    nomadski wrote:Always secure all advantages before going to war . They rush into war , by terror attacks . Since they can not secure any advantages by waiting . Iranian IRGC and security forces have vowed retaliation . Of course Iran has a right to retaliate . And a right to interfere in their domestic  affairs . But if possible this retaliation should be aimed at securing all the advantages before a hot international  war .

    Supporting the democratic forces in the Arabian peninsula ( gather your democratic forces and then mobilise them )  . By aiming to overthrow the despotic monarchies is now a  legitimate and permissible aim . Anything and everything apart from military aid to the Arabian revolutionaries  . Since the aim is to open people's eyes and not to close them .

    Waiting and increasing security in Iran , or fighting a hot war  ( against the terrorists ) in  Iran  and against the imperialist and monarchist backed forces ( by also increased  democracy in Iran )  is the much preferred option . The trick is not fighting a hot international  war . For Iran . But securing public and moral support . Both in Iran and in Arab world . Let them make the first definitive move . By launching an aggressive hot war . If they have to . And they imagine like saddam that sowing international and sectarian discord will save their dictatorial rule . For them there is only the dust bin of history .

    Down with saudi royal family . Down with yank imperialist . Down with their proxy terrorists .

    Long live democracy . Long live people power . Long live peace .

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    Very well said, Iran always take their time and do not do knee jerk reactions and the same will happen here.
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    2017 Qatar diplomatic crisis

    Post  Airman on Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:12 pm

    A group of Arab nations led by Saudi Arabia and Egypt cut ties with Qatar on June 5, accusing the gas-rich Gulf country of supporting extremism, while a number of regional and global actors, including Turkey and the U.S., called for dialogue to resolve the dispute.

    Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen and the Maldives joined the duo in severing relations with gas-rich Qatar, accusing Doha of harboring “terrorist and sectarian groups that aim to destabilize the region including the Muslim Brotherhood, Daesh [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – ISIL] and al-Qaeda.”

    Qatar reacted with fury, denying any support for extremists and accusing its Gulf neighbors of seeking to put the country under “guardianship.”

    Qatar hosts the largest U.S. airbase in the region, which is crucial to operations against ISIL.

    Ankara has urged dialogue and continued contacts between Gulf countries in a bid to resolve the unprecedented crisis, while expressing Turkey’s “sadness” over the incident.

    “Dialogue should be continued under any condition so that problems can be resolved peacefully. We feel saddened by this current picture. We can give all sort of support for the normalization of the situation,” Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu said at a joint press conference with German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel.

    Çavuşoğlu recalled that Turkey regards the “unity and togetherness” of the Gulf countries as equal to Turkey’s own unity, while underlining the need of solidarity of all regional countries in the fight against terror, radicalism and Islamophobia.  

    The Foreign Ministry issued a separate statement on the development. “Turkey, as a responsible actor in its region and as term president of the Organization of Islamic Conference, is ready to do its best for resolving this disagreement between friendly and brotherly countries as soon as possible,” read the statement.

    Turkey and Qatar have improved their bilateral relations in recent years, including accelerated economic ties, which allowed the former to open a military base in Qatari territories.

    Speaking in Sydney, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said he did not expect the announcement to have “any significant impact, if any impact at all, on the unified fight against terrorism.”

    He encouraged Qatar and its neighbors to “sit down together,” adding that Washington was ready for “any role that we can play” in helping to overcome divisions.

    Iran issued a neutral statement on the crisis, urging Qatar and its neighbors to resolve their differences “through political and peaceful methods and dialogue between the parties.”

    The announcement on June 5 came less than a month after U.S. President Donald Trump visited Saudi Arabia to cement ties with Riyadh and called for a united front among Muslim countries against extremism.

    It also followed weeks of rising tensions between Doha and its neighbors, including Qatari accusations of a concerted media campaign against it and the alleged hacking of the Qatar News Agency.

    The Gulf states and Egypt said they were severing diplomatic ties and closing transport links with Qatar, which relies on imports from its neighbors.

    The Gulf states banned their citizens from travelling to Qatar and ordered Qatari citizens to leave within 14 days.  

    Saudi Arabia also closed its borders with Qatar, effectively blocking food and other supplies exported by land to Qatar.

    Local media in Qatar reported there was already some panic buying as people stock up on food.

    The Qatar Stock Exchange tumbled eight percent on opening and eventually closed down 7.58 percent.

    Gulf states have for years accused Qatar of supporting extremist groups, in particular the Muslim Brotherhood, the world’s oldest Islamist organization.

    Riyadh also accused Doha of supporting Iran-backed “terrorist activities” in Saudi Arabia’s Shiite-dominated area of Qatif, as well as in Bahrain, both of which have seen Shiite unrest in recent years.

    Any suggestion that Qatar is backing the agenda of Shiite-dominated Iran - Sunni Saudi Arabia’s regional arch-rival - is especially sensitive, particularly in the wake of Trump’s comments last month.

    Qatar has consistently denied any support for extremists or Iran and did so again on June 5.

    “The measures are unjustified and are based on false and baseless claims,” the Qatari Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    “The aim is clear, and it is to impose guardianship on the state,” it said, insisting authorities would “take all measures necessary ... to foil attempts to affect or harm Qatar’s society and economy”.

    Economic consequences were already emerging, with UAE carriers Emirates, Etihad, flydubai and Air Arabia, as well as Saudi Airlines, announcing the suspension of all flights to and from Qatar as of June 6.

    Qatar Airways - one of the region’s busiest airlines - said it had suspended all flights to Saudi Arabia with immediate effect.

    The Saudi-led coalition battling Iran-backed rebels in Yemen said it had expelled Qatar from the group.

    The coalition accused Qatar of providing “support to [terrorist] organizations in Yemen,” the first time it has made such a claim.

    Gulf countries previously recalled their ambassadors from Qatar in 2014, ostensibly over its support for the Muslim Brotherhood, but the moves on June 5 go much further.

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/saudi-egypt-axis-cuts-ties-to-isolate-qatar.aspx?pageID=238&nID=113926&NewsCatID=352

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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:25 pm

    UAE pulling all money out of Qatar, real liquidity problem for the 6 main banks there.

    This is turning into a very real economic war.
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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  Airman on Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:51 am

    #Qatar: 6th batch of 171 #Turkish troops with T-155 Fırtına howitzers arrived to #Qatar today via @Acemal71 https://t.co/cRGZ2MtCGc
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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:59 am

    Airman wrote:#Qatar: 6th batch of 171 #Turkish troops with T-155 Fırtına howitzers arrived to #Qatar today via @Acemal71 https://t.co/cRGZ2MtCGc

    whats the role of Turkish troops so far from their country? just reward to Qatar because maybe they get economic aid from them?


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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  Airman on Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:47 am

    George1 wrote:
    Airman wrote:#Qatar: 6th batch of 171 #Turkish troops with T-155 Fırtına howitzers arrived to #Qatar today via @Acemal71 https://t.co/cRGZ2MtCGc

    whats the role of Turkish troops so far from their country? just reward to Qatar because maybe they get economic aid from them?

    I think it's because of the economic relationship between Turkey and Qatar. Qatar has some investments in Turkey.
    http://www.mfa.gov.tr/turkey_s-commercial-and-economic-relations-with-qatar.en.mfa
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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  Airman on Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:49 pm

    Turkey, Qatar start joint military exercise

    The Turkish and Qatari militaries started a joint exercise yesterday as the crisis between Qatar and Gulf countries continues. Over 250 Turkish soldiers and 30 armored vehicles are participating in the drill at a base in Qatar.

    The Turkish Fleet Command's TCG Gökova Frigate arrived in Hamad Port, southeast of the capital Doha, on July 31, as part of the naval section of the drill. The Qatari Defense Ministry announced in a written statement that the TCG Gökova arrived in Qatar with a unit of 214 sailors to participate in the joint naval exercises.

    The naval exercises are taking place in Hamad Port, Doha Naval Base and Qatari territorial waters. The exercises are conducted as part of military cooperation agreements between Turkey and Qatar in the fight against extremism and terrorism.

    Turkey, Qatar start joint military exercise





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    Re: Iran-Saudi Middle East Cold War

    Post  Airman on Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:33 pm

    The #Qatar Emiri Naval Forces (QENF) today concluded the joint maritime exercise (Rapid Response) carried out with its Turkish counterpart.
    https://twitter.com/MOD_Qatar/status/894586817034555392








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