Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


    Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Share

    JohninMK
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3360
    Points : 3403
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:07 am

    Erk wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    par far wrote:Why are the Kurds taking Azaz?

    INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA, FEB. 5, 2016


    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-feb-5-2016/



    The Kurds are trying to close/control the border between Syria and Turkey.
    The Kurds are in a much better position to quickly cut off the town, it is still quite a way for the SAA to fight their way up. What will be interesting is what happens, assuming the Kurds take the area, when the SAA gets there. Is the Government going to insist on taking it over? Then how do the Turks react?

    I am not sure what the Kurdish long term game plan it, they want their own territory and they seem to be choosing it to be a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey, on the Syrian side of the border. It would be interesting to know what Assad/Putin think of this.
    Probably let them get on with it. Then at the end of the war the Kurds will get a self rule area within Syria. The border will probably have to be a Government operation to reduce the Turks pain at having all those 'orrible Kurds next to them.

    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3663
    Points : 3775
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:22 am


    My guess is that future Syrian state will be modeled closely after Russian Federation. Kurds become part of the greater whole. Hence the leeway they been getting.

    kvs
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 2500
    Points : 2633
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Canuckistan

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  kvs on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:24 am

    Solncepek wrote:Meanwhile, somewhere in Germany :




    So Russian forces have killed over 250,000 Syrian civilians? F*ck off Deutscher tarden.

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1189
    Points : 1207
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:59 am

    Hamosh ‏@Hamosh84  1h1 hour ago
    Footage battle of #Rityan earlier which #SAA #Hezbollah + allies captured earlier today. #Syria #Aleppo

    https://twitter.com/Hamosh84/status/695740221414121472

    Doesn't get more gucci than that, kit, heavy loadouts, T-90(?)
    dafuq is going on.. these folks mean biznis, messing things up left and right.

    OminousSpudd
    Major
    Major

    Posts : 803
    Points : 822
    Join date : 2015-01-03
    Age : 21
    Location : Nelson, New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:04 am

    Looks like Soviet Auxiliary Army is in overdrive. thumbsup

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1728
    Points : 1768
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  franco on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:05 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    par far wrote:Why are the Kurds taking Azaz?

    INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA, FEB. 5, 2016


    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-feb-5-2016/



    The Kurds are trying to close/control the border between Syria and Turkey.
    The Kurds are in a much better position to quickly cut off the town, it is still quite a way for the SAA to fight their way up. What will be interesting is what happens, assuming the Kurds take the area, when the SAA gets there. Is the Government going to insist on taking it over? Then how do the Turks react?

    I am not sure what the Kurdish long term game plan it, they want their own territory and they seem to be choosing it to be a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey, on the Syrian side of the border. It would be interesting to know what Assad/Putin think of this.
    Probably let them get on with it. Then at the end of the war the Kurds will get a self rule area within Syria. The border will probably have to be a Government operation to reduce the Turks pain at having all those 'orrible Kurds next to them.

    The Kurds have crossed the Euphrates at Tishrin and can advance to Manbij. Meanwhile the Tiger Force will soon be able to go after al-Bab and then advance to meet the Kurds after they take Manbij... cutting off ISIS from Turkey.

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1189
    Points : 1207
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:05 am

    Erk wrote:I am not sure what the Kurdish long term game plan it, they want their own territory and they seem to be choosing it to be a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey, on the Syrian side of the border. It would be interesting to know what Assad/Putin think of this.

    They approve it. The real estate YPG want to control is OKish but nothing great, no access to sea and lacks strategic depth. I.e. can be penetrated at anyone's choosing. They lack air assets too. So if they voluntarily want to be a buffer autonomous republic, facing Turkey. Well let them be. Aleppo-Al Bab is on SAA plans for control, so are the largest population centres. And their largest populations centers, Qamilsi and Hasaka are full of strong pro-SAA folks.

    PS. YPG zone of control will discourage any Turkmen-related issues in Aleppo province

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1189
    Points : 1207
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:13 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:Looks like Soviet Auxiliary Army is in overdrive. thumbsup

    And the rest. They made it all the way down to Jordanian border with T-90s giving moderates a final ride on the fvck truck.
    Few years ago claiming "SAA & friends will roll with T-90s on the Jordan border" would earn you a place in a mad house.

    unshaven

    Vann7
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3221
    Points : 3345
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:21 am



    does anyone knows if Russia is making any attack drone to be used in conflicts like Syria?
    The Iranian one can do the job ,but 4 missiles is a bit limited. The US predator carry up to 6
    air to ground missiles. Wondering if Russia is working in Attack drones against mercenaries
    in conflicts and their pickups.. anyone knows?

    Erk
    Junior Lieutenant
    Junior Lieutenant

    Posts : 474
    Points : 485
    Join date : 2015-04-26

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  Erk on Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:43 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    does anyone knows if Russia is making any attack drone to be used in conflicts like Syria?
    The Iranian one can do the job ,but 4 missiles is a bit limited. The US predator carry up to 6
    air to ground missiles. Wondering if Russia is working in Attack drones against mercenaries
    in conflicts and their pickups.. anyone knows?

    Russia uses drones for intelligence gathering, they have bombers, jets, and cruise missiles for blowing things up.


    par far
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1055
    Points : 1190
    Join date : 2014-06-26

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  par far on Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:46 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Erk wrote:I am not sure what the Kurdish long term game plan it, they want their own territory and they seem to be choosing it to be a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey, on the Syrian side of the border. It would be interesting to know what Assad/Putin think of this.

    They approve it. The real estate YPG want to control is OKish but nothing great, no access to sea and lacks strategic depth. I.e. can be penetrated at anyone's choosing. They lack air assets too. So if they voluntarily want to be a buffer autonomous republic, facing Turkey. Well let them be. Aleppo-Al Bab is on SAA plans for control, so are the largest population centres. And their largest populations centers, Qamilsi and Hasaka are full of strong pro-SAA folks.

    PS. YPG zone of control will discourage any Turkmen-related issues in Aleppo province


    The SAA need to grab as much oil territory as they can, the cocksucker Jews took Golan Heights, said the SAA need to hurry to get all the oil territory they can.

    Big_Gazza
    Lieutenant
    Lieutenant

    Posts : 506
    Points : 530
    Join date : 2014-08-25
    Location : Melbourne, Australia

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:59 am

    par far wrote:
    The SAA need to grab as much oil territory as they can, the cocksucker Jews took Golan Heights, said the SAA need to hurry to get all the oil territory they can.

    Correction - the cocksucker Jews have temporarily occupied the Golan Heights. One fine day they will be evicted, and they will scream loudly on the short fiery descent to Hell when the day finally comes...

    Solncepek
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 277
    Points : 280
    Join date : 2015-08-27
    Location : USSR

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  Solncepek on Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:50 am

    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:These devices seem to be appearing all over the place, so someone is making them in reasonable numbers. Iran?



    What are these are devices? And what is the purpose of these devices?


    Zivo
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1504
    Points : 1540
    Join date : 2012-04-13
    Location : U.S.A.

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  Zivo on Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:52 am

    Solncepek wrote:
    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:These devices seem to be appearing all over the place, so someone is making them in reasonable numbers. Iran?



    What are these are devices? And what is the purpose of these devices?


    So it is a dazzler. Interesting.

    GunshipDemocracy
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1516
    Points : 1558
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:55 am

    if this is true then how they want to move those masses of people to support terrorists? then clash with SAA seems to be  inevitable as IMHO this is main reason to use them. I wonder if caliber-nukes start being used?

    CNN: Riyadh allies are preparing for 150 thousand military action in Syria




    http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160206/1370482179.html

    MOSCOW, 6 Feb — RIA Novosti. Saudi Arabia and its allies among the Arab countries prepare up to 150 thousand troops for a possible operation in Syria against the group "Islamic state" (IG, is prohibited in the Russian Federation), according to the sources of the TV channel CNN.

    Advisor to the Saudi Minister of defense Ahmed Asiri said Thursday that the country is ready to send troops to participate in a ground operation in Syria, provided that it coordinates the command of the international coalition led by the United States. He suggested that such a decision can be made at the NATO summit in Brussels next week. The U.S. Secretary of defense Ashton Carter confirmed that at the NATO summit will discuss with the representatives of Saudi Arabia the initiative.

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1189
    Points : 1207
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:07 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:if this is true then how they want to move those masses of people to support terrorists? then clash with SAA seems to be  inevitable as IMHO this is main reason to use them. I wonder if caliber-nukes start being used?

    It's political hot air. They have no base or logistics for such a campaign, away from their border. Their only option for insertion would be Jordan, but with SAA in Daraa, pro-SAA Suwaida on east.. sounds impossible. Unless they were to move into FSA part of Golan, IS is also there in a pocket (ironically).


    Last edited by KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:43 am; edited 1 time in total

    chinggis
    Private
    Private

    Posts : 35
    Points : 40
    Join date : 2015-06-11
    Age : 49
    Location : karlovac, croatia

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  chinggis on Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:24 am

    Zivo wrote:
    Solncepek wrote:
    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:These devices seem to be appearing all over the place, so someone is making them in reasonable numbers. Iran?



    What are these are devices? And what is the purpose of these devices?


    So it is a dazzler. Interesting.

    No it is not. It is jamming device and operate in IR spectrum, how I guessed before. But I am wrong because I think that device have a passive detectors which turn on active device of IR light.
    No, when you turn on that device from drivers cabin, it work all the time until battery will be dry. I do not know if this IR light is modulated or not but it can be done quite easy in any electronic workshop and messed up more ATGM guidance(if any up to date ATGM have a modulated source of light for guidance). What is interesting is, we can see that this device have a convex lens and normal glass is not good material for IR light, so that lens will be from SiO2. It is not space science, but is harder to manufacture lens from SiO2 than normal glass, that mean, after 4+ years of war they are consolidate itself and decide what they need and what they do not need for fight and after that decision, they channeled resources in production needed equipment. That is important, because after you decide something, you need to find material and financial resources, you need to find laboratories where will be devices and equipment developed, approved by authorities, then you need to find workshops where that will be produced. You need to round up able workers for that job. So, what we see today, that process is start before 1 more probably 2 years. It is time what you need to transfer your manufacturing from normal peace production to war production. It can tell you a lot.
    And every source of light can damage your eyes, if it is powerful enough.

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1189
    Points : 1207
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:00 pm

    chinggis wrote:What is interesting is, we can see that this device have a convex lens and normal glass is not good material for IR light, so that lens will be from SiO2. It is not space science, but is harder to manufacture lens from SiO2 than normal glass, that mean, after 4+ years of war they are consolidate itself and decide what they need and what they do not need for fight and after that decision, they channeled resources in production needed equipment. That is important, because after you decide something, you need to find material and financial resources, you need to find laboratories where will be devices and equipment developed, approved by authorities, then you need to find workshops where that will be produced. You need to round up able workers for that job. So, what we see today, that process is start before 1 more probably 2 years. It is time what you need to transfer your manufacturing from normal peace production to war production. It can tell you a lot.
    And every source of light can damage your eyes, if it is powerful enough.

    Or they bought from China or the Norks.
    If this is indigenous Syrian product, hats off to them yes sir

    KoTeMoRe
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3547
    Points : 3582
    Join date : 2015-04-21
    Location : Krankhaus Central.

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:04 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Hamosh ‏@Hamosh84  1h1 hour ago
    Footage battle of #Rityan earlier which #SAA #Hezbollah + allies captured earlier today. #Syria #Aleppo

    https://twitter.com/Hamosh84/status/695740221414121472

    Doesn't get more gucci than that, kit, heavy loadouts, T-90(?)
    dafuq is going on.. these folks mean biznis, messing things up left and right.

    Iran means bizniss, Hizb means Hostile Takeover. What's really pissing me off right now is how they need to film these people around. FFS stop it, let the guys work, make a good hard footage about how things went down and taunt the WDC with it.


    Also 150K Saudis&Friends in Syria...Jesus why exaggerating things like this. The Saudis can't get a couple thousand retards to stay alive in Yemen with those FlipFlop Armada, how do you think they will get/fare in Syria.

    Also: You know what sour grapes look like when reading this.

    http://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/assad-regime-gains-aleppo-alter-balance-power-northern-syria

    I would pay a pretty penny to drink some of those tears.

    DerWolf
    Corporal
    Corporal

    Posts : 60
    Points : 62
    Join date : 2015-12-06

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  DerWolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:32 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:if this is true then how they want to move those masses of people to support terrorists? then clash with SAA seems to be  inevitable as IMHO this is main reason to use them. I wonder if caliber-nukes start being used?

    CNN: Riyadh allies are preparing for 150 thousand military action in Syria




    http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160206/1370482179.html

    MOSCOW, 6 Feb — RIA Novosti. Saudi Arabia and its allies among the Arab countries prepare up to 150 thousand troops for a possible operation in Syria against the group "Islamic state" (IG, is prohibited in the Russian Federation), according to the sources of the TV channel CNN.

    Advisor to the Saudi Minister of defense Ahmed Asiri said Thursday that the country is ready to send troops to participate in a ground operation in Syria, provided that it coordinates the command of the international coalition led by the United States. He suggested that such a decision can be made at the NATO summit in Brussels next week. The U.S. Secretary of defense Ashton Carter confirmed that at the NATO summit will discuss with the representatives of Saudi Arabia the initiative.
    150.000 troops are to manu of them, yeh seems a very difficult task. But anyway we will wait and see if that will became reality.

    zg18
    Major
    Major

    Posts : 868
    Points : 944
    Join date : 2013-09-26
    Location : Zagreb , Croatia

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  zg18 on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:46 pm

    If Yemen is any telling, Saudi Arabia bringing 150,000 troops to Syria is science fiction.

    zg18
    Major
    Major

    Posts : 868
    Points : 944
    Join date : 2013-09-26
    Location : Zagreb , Croatia

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  zg18 on Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:05 pm

    Gentle threat from Iran:

    They claim they will send troops (to Syria) but I don't think they will dare do so. They have a classic army and history tells us such armies stand no chance in fighting irregular resistance forces," the Fars news agency quoted Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari as saying. wrote:

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160206/1034334942/iran-saudi-arabia-syria.html?utm_source=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FTsXdT5QTgB&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=a9Jt&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1189
    Points : 1207
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:31 pm

    zg18 wrote:If Yemen is any telling, Saudi Arabia bringing 150,000 troops to Syria is science fiction.

    Here's how it's going to go down, they will deploy to Yemen. When air-conditionined MRAPs break down, KFC supply dries out, they'll run away cross the dessert, all the way to Syria. We might end up collecting them from the Aegean as refugee folk. Razz

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1189
    Points : 1207
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:13 pm

    yeah they look the part alright
    Ratyan town.



    Also Naimah has fallen to SAA:



    I am sensing the creation of yet another kettle in Daraa unshaven

    KoTeMoRe
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3547
    Points : 3582
    Join date : 2015-04-21
    Location : Krankhaus Central.

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:23 pm

    They should shoulder those Type 56/2 better though. clown

    Sponsored content

    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5

    Post  Sponsored content Today at 7:43 am


      Current date/time is Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:43 am