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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:10 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:........................

    That's why you simply don't leave stray dogs like Erdogan roam around, you either put them down or kick them out.  

    Smart thing for DC to do would be to just give turk generals phone call and order them to take out the trash in presidential palace.

    It not like they don't have plenty of experience with it already.

    Very complicated. For all the Ultra-Nationalist talk the former Turkish Armed Forces were keen to display (Kemalist BS and all), they have been two points Erdogan has managed to achieve.

    1. Overtime (starting from the failed "coup" in 2003) it has purged a lot of "Kemalist" people out of the positions of power within the Army (it will be 5 years the 12th of February from Bayloz/Ergenekon cases 2011).
    2. It has been using MHP filth in Syria with such a liberality that I find VERY hard to believe that someone will put Erdogan out of his misery while wearing epaulettes.

    The only thing I see happening is for Russia and US to stir a double blow-wall (Helping the Kurds in Turkey and Starting a Coloured revolution in Azerbaijan) which would force Turkey to stretch. For that to happen, Assad (and Iran) would have to be partly thrown under the bus. That's unacceptable to Russia. Erdogan is a problem, just not Russia's (only or biggest) problem. And they you have the LGBT crowb from Brussels trying to buy the dog with pastrami...

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:42 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    I am reminded of the old joke for the USSR - "There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth".  It is such a fitting epitaph for the elite-owned corporate-controlled MSM echo-chamber that we laughingly call the "free press"....

    IF you live in Australia ? , how does the average australian thinks about the whole
    war of Americans in Syria?  ARe they still blind or majority really angry with US sponsor
    of terrorism?  In Latin America is not very good ,the opinion today. even though it was never
    good ,today is to the lowest ever.

    The truth is that most "straylians" don't care much, don't discuss it, and our media sticks solidly to the US-NATO propaganda line without deviation. Its almost as if the Syrian terrorist war isn't happening. Uh'Murica is not loved down here though. Our politicians may get down on their knees and give oral service to the Masters, but most people I think recognise the US for what it really is.
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    Post  Neutrality Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:02 am

    So Turkish intervention is going to happen eventually. Why? Because usually when military forums and the MSM talk about it it's bound to happen ("when there's smoke, there's fire" - kind of thing). The very same scenario with Crimea basically. When people were only starting to suggest Russia might intervene in Crimea, Russian forces were most likely already on their way. So I'm quite certain the Turkish armed forces are at this stage.

    I didn't have sufficient time to think about the (detailed/precise) likely consequences of such actions. The UNSC would be forced to condemn this move, perhaps even unanimously. I simply see no possible grounds of justification for NATO to support the Turks in this or they'd be basically saying: "We are ready to support our ally no matter what, even if that means an open confrontation with Russian, Iranian and Syrian armed forces in the region". Obama will either go completely silent or be forced to pull out the biggest damage control out of his ass in his career. The EU will most likely unanimously condemn this move and Turkey will NEVER have a chance to join the EU in the next 3 centuries.
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:18 am

    Neutrality wrote:So Turkish intervention is going to happen eventually. Why? Because usually when military forums and the MSM talk about it it's bound to happen ("when there's smoke, there's fire" - kind of thing). The very same scenario with Crimea basically. When people were only starting to suggest Russia might intervene in Crimea, Russian forces were most likely already on their way. So I'm quite certain the Turkish armed forces are at this stage.

    I didn't have sufficient time to think about the (detailed/precise) likely consequences of such actions. The UNSC would be forced to condemn this move, perhaps even unanimously. I simply see no possible grounds of justification for NATO to support the Turks in this or they'd be basically saying: "We are ready to support our ally no matter what, even if that means an open confrontation with Russian, Iranian and Syrian armed forces in the region". Obama will either go completely silent or be forced to pull out the biggest damage control out of his ass in his career. The EU will most likely unanimously condemn this move and Turkey will NEVER have a chance to join the EU in the next 3 centuries.

    Reyling what people say on forums would mean china would have overrun russia a billion times, russia would have nuked caucasus according to lot of lobotomized and russia is so corrupt that it should have vaporized by now due to oil cartell and its dependency on it, the sanctions, the corruption by putin himself, the bad shithole country russia is (TR1) etc etc.

    Forums hold no authority or glass ball to predict anything. Some things get obvious some not so.
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    Post  Neutrality Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:23 am

    Werewolf wrote:

    Reyling what people say on forums would mean china would have overrun russia a billion times, russia would have nuked caucasus according to lot of lobotomized and russia is so corrupt that it should have vaporized by now due to oil cartell and its dependency on it, the sanctions, the corruption by putin himself, the bad shithole country russia is (TR1) etc etc.

    Forums hold no authority or glass ball to predict anything. Some things get obvious some not so.

    Except for the fact that there are already Turkish soldiers stationed near Mosul. Ex-officio ofcourse.

    My point wasn't about relying on what people say on forum. My point is that it's sometimes worthwhile to listen to what people on military forums have to say. To rely on someone/something means you completely trust him/it which is far from what I was saying.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:23 am

    Neutrality wrote:So Turkish intervention is going to happen eventually. Why? Because usually when military forums and the MSM talk about it it's bound to happen ("when there's smoke, there's fire" - kind of thing). The very same scenario with Crimea basically. When people were only starting to suggest Russia might intervene in Crimea, Russian forces were most likely already on their way. So I'm quite certain the Turkish armed forces are at this stage.

    I didn't have sufficient time to think about the (detailed/precise) likely consequences of such actions. The UNSC would be forced to condemn this move, perhaps even unanimously. I simply see no possible grounds of justification for NATO to support the Turks in this or they'd be basically saying: "We are ready to support our ally no matter what, even if that means an open confrontation with Russian, Iranian and Syrian armed forces in the region". Obama will either go completely silent or be forced to pull out the biggest damage control out of his ass in his career. The EU will most likely unanimously condemn this move and Turkey will NEVER have a chance to join the EU in the next 3 centuries.

    You have one right and one wrong.

    1.Turks are already in Syria. They have got beaten by a margin, both on the organisation level and command level. The biggest issue seems to be that someone tips the Russians about sensitive material (TOW's have gone from 105 in October to 22 in January/ Total ATGM 45 in January). And most of those Glorious Weapons of Conquest either don't get where they need to be or get destroyed plain and simple. The other big deal is also that average ammo has been halved according to Pro-Beheader people. In the north it's litterally half of the small arms ammo and ordnance.
    2. Not the same scenario with Crimea. For the reasons I explained above. There was no one trying to bomb the BSF guys out of Crimea. There's a couple of people more than happy to protect Syrian Territorial Integrity (tm) with OFABS and beyond.
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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:48 am

    http://news.yahoo.com/syria-regime-forces-enter-besieged-villages-aleppo-advance-083952791.html

    A sample of NATO agitprop about Syria. Note how they insinuate that Aleppo is 100% controlled by the "rebels" and
    how there so much worry about refugees when in fact the terrorist controlled parts are already essentially depopulated
    since Syrians have brains and living under 7th century goat f*cking headchoppers is not something most of them
    desire.

    I am glad those lame Minsk style "peace" talks have failed. Peace talks should be held after the terrorists have
    been routed.

    As noted elsewhere, Assad's forces control territory with over 10 million people who live in the west of the country
    away from the eastern desert. Daesh rules over 2 million and supposedly the other "rebels" rule over 4 million although
    I do not buy this number judging by the maps. It is the Damascus city region that has 10 million people so a more
    realistic figure is that the "rebels" which include Daesh control between 3 and 4 million people. Syria had a population
    of 23 million before the war and now has 16 million.
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:32 am

    So it is official that peace talks failed and ceasefire is over?  Good.
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:20 am

    zg18 wrote:I mean, Ottoman Egyptian period is classical example of colonial rule, Mameluks kept their privileges, Ottoman porte rarely kept viceroys for Egypt longer time in office to prevent new center of power besides Istanbul which meant no effective long term management, which meant in the end, Muhammed Ali of Egypt, famous Albanian Khedive, inherited the land that was the same in early 1800s as was in early 1500s when Ottomans defeated Mamluk Sultanate. Basically no progress for 3 centuries in Arab world, and we in Balkans complain about Ottomans Smile They at least here invested some money.

    But the ottoman period is not when history of Middle east Began.

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    Turkey did not existed until the 1,500. Syria was part of Armenian Empire .then later was independent when it collapsed. Turkey was Armenia and bizantine lands. Syria is one of the oldest nations in the world. have been a colony many times but still exist in that location before Europe existed and was only a land of savages and tribes ,only Italy and hellenics greeks and macedonia and perhaps Egypt are older ,with the creation of Roman Empire. Persia was also older too. so you can count with one hand the nations that still today exist and comes from bible times.

    Syria as a country even shows in the bible ,its existence. while Turkey is a relative more modern
    middle east nation. Syria have at least 1,500 years older than Turkey ,and interestingly its
    geographical lines today are close to the ones they had before Christianity began. that is more than 2,000 years ago. Actually Syria lost territories to Ottoman Empire/Turkey and to the artificially created Israel. The zones that Turkey have today were part of Armenia kingdom and Greeks ,and Muslins terrorist took control of the zones by mass scale genocide of Christians civilians in the millions. literary crucified like christ. This is well documented that Turkey muslins and earlier Ottomans made their empires by murdering millions of civilians women and children kicking them from their lands.. and the most amazing thing of all ,that they still today trying to do that with their support to ISIS.

    So Syria have more rights than Turkey to live in those lands ,in fact turkey should return the lands they stole from Syria and Armenia by means of mass genocide of millions. Even the Nazis were horrified at Turks treatment of civilians , and the ambassador of germany to Turkey documented the mass genocides of turks against Armenian population , pure perverse they were. Armenian womens after raped ,were left naked and crucified with their children and left for months its bodies to rotten , like taken from an vampires ,demons movie.

    violence images of armenians womens crucified naked by Turkey terrorist.
    This is what Mustafa and Erdogan support , criminals with no respect for human civilization.

    https://patriceayme.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/crucified-armenian-women.jpg

    people talks about ISIS this and ISIS that.. but ignore that thats the mentality
    of close to half of the muslin sunnies  in middle east. Muhhamend himself did many crimes ,
    and behead people but such things are largely not told in any western media. Like the son of Hamas told , the problem in the middle east  and no media will say that ,is Islam ,
    that it have an extremist God and prophet. The Son of hamas leader fully understand
    why Muslins do terrorism and he claims is because their religion ISLAM is bipolar and contradictory. and their prophet was the biggest terrorist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peppSQC0XTA  


    Turkey is full of Roman edifications from the bizantine empire and the first Christian church
    apparently began in Turkey.. when it was Armenia. So is a muslin nation occupying a Christian historical land. Since Islam came 600 years later after Christianity.and Muslins only got control of it through Genocides of millions of civilians women and children. It was said Turks are not originals from that zone and came from Asia.

    Is the most evil nation ever existed in the world .Erdogan is more dangerous even more than Hitler ,because have the ISIS mentality  ,but mixed with Power addiction and obssession to revive its ottoman empire. and if that was not enough is fully backed by Americans.
    So i will not really complain if after turkey provokes a war with Russia ,Russia goes and nuke
    Turkey and totally erase it from the world map.at least as a nation and split it in many parts ,and give Armenia ,Syria and greece back its lands. Turkey even invaded Cyprus and kicked through genocide of its army was that they managed to take half of it. And today they invading
    IRAQ and Syria .. so is simply a purely evil nation ,that its leadership ,just like in Ukraine today ,have been carefully selected for its Ottoman Ambitions and their lack of values for human life.

    and Neither kurds ,neither chechens have any legitimate claim to land for historical reasons ,since they were never a recognized independent Nation by any power. British Empire, and now US always used Turks as a weapon against Russia. So in case of any major war Russia should invade Ankara and split turkey in many parts. So no longer Americans or NATO can use them again against Russia.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:12 am

    I am no security council strategist nor general but how I can see this based on past:

    1) This is not erdoggie himself but he was unleashed after visit of (monats) Bi(n)den. Action is planned and coordinated form ISIS hq DC. Objective take over lil part of Iraq/ and Syria to breed terrorists likely with goats

    2) hostilities in Ukraine likely to start to stretch Russia in 2 directions.

    3) Western press-titutes vide Gauleiter Julian R. will justify this aggresion: humanitarian disaster avoided!
    Stalin/Putin/Assad/Hitler killed 250 thousands of civilians but due to nato , erdoggie and moderate head choppers this is not anymore.
    After burning alive Assad with moderate usage of gasoline peace process can start. First is agreed a gas pipe from Qatar  to Mediterranean.


    4)  No there will be no war between Turkey and Russia, otherwise in Ukraine would be the same.
    maybe some Turkish planes will fall unless US will be shooting to ISIS and hitting Assad forces instead.


    5)

    a) If Iran sends troops to help Assad will be new sanctions and maybe proxy war Turkey/Saudis against Iran. On Iraqi territory

    b) Russia will not let NATOto Syria already in Assad possession. Eventually what Remained form tochkas in Russia will be delivered to Syria.
    c) Kruds might be armed by proxy like Assad/Iran with shiny toys form Russia´s  vast arms depots
    d) Probably support to Houtis increase
    e) New harsher sanctions against Russia (economically, media reach uber-bottom level or Polish/Ukrainian in anti-Russian blatant lies)

    and elections in Russia soon...
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:13 am

    Erdogan/mustafa terrorist leaders killed like pigs in just 2 days in aleppo recently.  
    the Turks guinea pigs have to be suffering watching their goat suckers leaders collapsing
    across all fronts in Syria.  lol1

    cleaning the planet from turkey jihadi scum.

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    Rest in pieces the cowards terrorist. Is a great week for Syria.
    ERdogan-mustafa friends falling like guinea pigs.. Cool


    Interesting there is more..
    ERdogan was received with very warm reception in Ecuador..with a surprise
    2 days visit... with insults.. lol1  


    Ecuatorians callign Erdogan in spanish..
    "Terrorista ERdogan" = " Erdogan terrorist"..   lol1
    "Asesino"  = "Assasin ,Criminal "
    and demanding the pig to leave Ecuador. Poor Erdogan and poor Mustafa..
    They will be rejected in the entire civilized world.
    No one likes terrorist.. only degenerates bandits and losers.
    if he goes to any other place it latin America ,will be no different. lol1


    Now leaving the fun aside.. this is  the kind of movement that can stop any war
    in Syria or any other place. if the entire world protest in every place kerry ,Obama and Erdogan show up.the pressure will be enormous on US to end their alliance with terrorism and declare
    Erdogan a criminal and international arrest. and Turkey kicked from NATO and isolated
    from the world like they deserve. Bank Accounts frozen and Turkey will be a worse economy
    than africa , and mustafa the pig will live like a homeless drug addict on the streets.  lol1

    if he goes to Venezuela people will throw molotov bombs at his plane.
    Latins never forget Criminals.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:18 pm

    A new style map of whole country, zoomable at link http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/desyracuse-syria-civil-war-feb-1st-2016_69215#7/34.493/38.502

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:46 pm

    Is this a gun?

    A gun fires a shell during an assault on the town of Osman in Syria's province of Daraa. February 3.

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    Post  Guest Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:52 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Is this a gun?

    A gun fires a shell during an assault on the town of Osman in Syria's province of Daraa. February 3.

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    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/photo/20160205/1034260768/pictures-week-february-5.html#ixzz3zIyM36yP

    Type 63 MLRS more likely xD

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:44 pm


    Swiped one more map:

    https://twitter.com/Gjoene/status/695614696532131840

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    Post  Dima Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Swiped one more map:

    https://twitter.com/Gjoene/status/695614696532131840

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    Ha...you beat me to it. Very Happy

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 30 minutes ago
    Syrian Army and Hezbollah continue their advance in northern Aleppo - they have just seized Rityan!
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CadcMaXUsAA1-5T.jpg:large

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-hezbollah-capture-the-strategic-village-of-rityan-in-northern-aleppo/
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    Post  Dima Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:08 pm

    SAA's recent offensives have been unpredictable (atleast for me) and thats a true beauty. The below one possibly shows SAA might be in a race to grab Azaz or other cities to quickly make contact with the Turkish border and in the process wipe out the moderate terrorists from those areas. It leaves the so-called anti-ISIS international coalition only ISIS targets to bomb and will be short of excuses.

    Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha  4 hours ago
    #Aleppo | #SAA & allies with #RuAF CAS take control of Rityan, Soap Factory & are close to taking Mayer v @A7_Mirza
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    Šerif Imamagić ‏@Serif_Imamagic0 5 hours ago   (Its a pro-FSA terrorists account)
    Pro-#Assad/#Russian forces are advancing quickly as rebel defence collapses across #Syria.
    #Atman taken over.
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    Post  Dima Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:20 pm

    Rook ‏@2Rook14  46 minutes ago
    #Syria: PHOTOS: T-90 in #SAA/#Hezbollah position near #Meyer, #Aleppo
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    Rook ‏@2Rook14  2hours
    PHOTOS: #SAA/#NDF in the #Atman central roundabout after taking control. Daraa
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    Post  Solncepek Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:47 pm

    Meanwhile, somewhere in Germany :

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:34 pm

    Solncepek wrote:Meanwhile, somewhere in Germany :

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    Just Soviet Things.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:35 pm

    Looks like the Russia/France love in on Syria is over. My highlight. That's clearly only acceptable when its the US side doing the destroying.

    BRUSSELS (Sputnik) — French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said Friday that Russia and Iran were sabotaging the intra-Syrian peace talks in Geneva.

    "This [Iranian and Russian involvement in Syria] completely torpedoes the peace talks in Geneva. There needs to be a political solution. There cannot be political discussion if one of the sides is engaged in destroying the other," Fabius told reporters upon arriving at Friday's informal EU defense and foreign ministers' meeting in Amsterdam.

    The EU ministerial meeting is set to discuss key elements of Europe's foreign policy and security policies, an EU diplomatic source said Thursday.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:41 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Looks like the Russia/France love in on Syria is over. My highlight. That's clearly only acceptable when its the US side doing the destroying.

    BRUSSELS (Sputnik) — French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said Friday that Russia and Iran were sabotaging the intra-Syrian peace talks in Geneva.

    "This [Iranian and Russian involvement in Syria] completely torpedoes the peace talks in Geneva. There needs to be a political solution. There cannot be political discussion if one of the sides is engaged in destroying the other," Fabius told reporters upon arriving at Friday's informal EU defense and foreign ministers' meeting in Amsterdam.

    The EU ministerial meeting is set to discuss key elements of Europe's foreign policy and security policies, an EU diplomatic source said Thursday.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160205/1034297808/syria-peace-talks.html#ixzz3zJdooXL5

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    Post  par far Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:43 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Looks like the Russia/France love in on Syria is over. My highlight. That's clearly only acceptable when its the US side doing the destroying.

    BRUSSELS (Sputnik) — French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said Friday that Russia and Iran were sabotaging the intra-Syrian peace talks in Geneva.

    "This [Iranian and Russian involvement in Syria] completely torpedoes the peace talks in Geneva. There needs to be a political solution. There cannot be political discussion if one of the sides is engaged in destroying the other," Fabius told reporters upon arriving at Friday's informal EU defense and foreign ministers' meeting in Amsterdam.

    The EU ministerial meeting is set to discuss key elements of Europe's foreign policy and security policies, an EU diplomatic source said Thursday.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160205/1034297808/syria-peace-talks.html#ixzz3zJdooXL5


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