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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:44 am

    Ukraine: Violence hits council meeting as Right Sector force mayor to resign


    Part of channel(s): Ukraine (current event)

    A brawl broke out in the Ukrainian city of Smila, Wednesday, after a group of activists from the far-right nationalist Right-Sector tried to force the mayor of the city Alexei Tsibko, to resign during an assembly of the local city council.

    The fighting broke out after a Right Sector activist attempted to snatch the microphone from the mayor and the mayor's advisor Kamil Valetov, got involved and tried to stop the Right Sector member. Others joined after punches were thrown and the violence increased.

    Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e6c_1456949254#WRGS4fO5m15Rh2ty.99

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:48 am

    Armored columns being moved by rail in to the Kherson region:


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:57 am

    New resource WebDNR http://webdnr.ru/  It is a search engine specifically for everything about DNR and works on cyrillic or latin. Enter Гиви or Givi and the same 419 results are displayed. Works for people, places and organisations, everything. Also good that it is only results specific for DNR, like if you search Вольво-Центра or Volvo-Center, the results are only for the Volvo-Center by Donetsk airport, not 4,280,000 Google results for Volvo-Center around the world. And general search terms for events, like "Battle for Debaltsevo" in latin and it gives the correct results, but of course all the links in the results are Russian.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:51 am

    European countries are losing patience over Ukraine. The upcoming Dutch referendum on EU association with Kiev may give a clear signal that Europe is ready to get rid of the irritating issue.

    Europe is challenging the idea of supporting the Ukrainian government. Voters at the upcoming Dutch referendum on EU association with Ukraine may for the first time openly stand against the EU’s policy toward Ukraine, an article in The Wall Street Journal read. The traditionally tolerate Dutch will stage a national "advisory" referendum next month on whether the European Union should grant associate status to Ukraine, observer John Vinocur wrote. And, according to polls, they are likely to tell the Ukrainians to "buzz off."

    He underscored that calls are decreasing in Europe to extend anti-Russian sanctions, an issue which will be brought up in several months. The author also criticized efforts by German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s and French President Francois Hollande to establish constructive dialogue with Russian leader Vladimir Putin. "Merkel and Hollande appear battered," the article read.

    At the same time, the journalist highlighted the fact that Europe is getting tired of the Ukrainian issue. "It [Ukraine] is an enormous irritant. There are countries that think, 'couldn’t Ukraine be bargained off in some way?'" a high-ranking official in Brussels told the author.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160304/1035763728/europe-ukrainian-problem.html#ixzz41vjYqiDB

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:21 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Armored columns being moved by rail in to the Kherson region:

    That is a lot of mixed gear. Does it represent a standard RuA grouping?

    Do we know why it is going to Kherson, in effect away from the Donbas front? Is that its final destination or will it roll on somewhere else?

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Ispan on Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:00 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Armored columns being moved by rail in to the Kherson region:

    That is a lot of mixed gear. Does it represent a standard RuA grouping?

    Do we know why it is going to Kherson, in effect away from the Donbas front? Is that its final destination or will it roll on somewhere else?


    Weeks ago another train loaded with artillery was spotted and form reports it indeed seems as if the Ukrops have massed artilery in the border with Crimea. I don't believe they will ever try to attack the peninsula but I find possible artillery bombardments across the border just like in the Sinai during the Attrition War of 1967-1973.

    Given the layout of railroads, moving materiel to the Donbass front by way of Kherson is a circuitous route, and is time consuming, and it spends diesel fuel, as those lines don't have electricity. it does not make any sense, unless the ukranians are trying a maneuver of distraction. Pretending to mass forces for an attack on Crimea, then shifting them eastwards along the single track line from Nikolaev to the frontline terminus at Volnovakha. This would make sense as the most logical place for a Ukranian offensive with prospects of gaining ground would be an attack on the southern front.

    See the railroad map






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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:31 pm

    Ispan wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Armored columns being moved by rail in to the Kherson region:

    That is a lot of mixed gear. Does it represent a standard RuA grouping?

    Do we know why it is going to Kherson, in effect away from the Donbas front? Is that its final destination or will it roll on somewhere else?


    Weeks ago another train loaded with artillery was spotted and form reports it indeed seems as if the Ukrops have massed artilery in the border with Crimea. I don't believe they will ever try to attack the peninsula but I find possible artillery bombardments across the border just like in the Sinai during the Attrition War of 1967-1973.

    Given the layout of railroads, moving materiel to the Donbass front by way of Kherson is a circuitous route, and is time consuming, and it spends diesel fuel, as those lines don't have electricity.  it does not make any sense, unless the ukranians are trying a maneuver of distraction. Pretending to mass forces for an attack on Crimea, then shifting them eastwards along the single track line from Nikolaev to the frontline terminus at Volnovakha. This would make sense as the most logical place for a Ukranian offensive with prospects of gaining ground would be an attack on the southern front.

    See the railroad map


    The map link is not displayed for some reason and this link in it doesn't work either http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/maps/ukraine/ukraine.gif
    Thanks, I did wonder if there was a link line across the south. Still its destination will not be a surprise for those who watch these things from on high.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:32 pm

    The newly Kiev appointed "governor" of Donetsk, Pavel Zhebrivskiy has visited Artemovsk and was asked questions about constructing housing for people from the "occupied regions". he said it would take at least two years to build apartment blocks. Then crucially says that nobody is going to wait that long and that the "occupied territories" will return to Ukraine in the near future. Maybe he simply flaps his jaws, but he said what he said, "the near future"

    Also Zhebrivskiy has said that soon a TV transmitter will be built in what Kiev still calls "Donetsk oblast", to transmit their TV all the way to Urals. He also repeated what in the past mostly extreme ukropians have said, and that Kursk, Voronezh, Rostov and Krasnodar will return to Ukraine. He is not a senior man in Kiev, but he has a voice and is at least in name the "Governor of Donetsk oblast", so what he says reflects what is thought in Kiev, and that is a desire to take Russian land. The extremists also want Orenburg as "ancestral ukropian"......

    I occasionaly post link to 112 as it is useful on streaming and not rabidly Russophobic, but unfortunately the link to the various comments made by Zhebrivskiy is total Russophobic crap, so unless anybody specifically needs the link to verify what I have written, then no link, but I don't need to make this stuff up.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Vann7 on Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:50 pm

    Take a look about a genuine Traitor , a rat ,Russian hater ,liberal who will like to see his nation destroyed.He is saying Russia commited a major violation of international laws by anexing Crimea. No mention the bastard of the ethnic cleansing of Russians by Ukraine. and the how Ukraine stole lands from Russia by declaring its independence in the 90s. And no mention of the coup by his American sponsors in kiev ,how it created the whole conflict.



    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/yavlinsky-says-he-will-beat-putin-in-2018-presidential-elections/561511.htmlf

    He have to be offered big money for becoming a traitor. We are speaking about luxury properties
    abroad. Fortunately that rat have no chance ever to even win defeat the last place in Russia elections. his support have to be at the level of nalvany. if not worse.

    My question is if he a jew ?   Is amazing to even be aware such kind of rats can exist in Russia.
    and try to mislead people. Im aware that before Putin came to power.. there were Russian liberals , just like that idiot , who were encouraging NATO to hurry up and militarize Russian borders and take advantage of Russia being weak after the collapse of Soviet Union. So unbelievable as it looks , the jews billionaires who flee to UK when Putin came to power.
    Were wishing to see Russia invaded and destroyed. How can such hate exist ,can only come from very radical racist jews who hate christianity and anything of Russia history ,aside of Lenin times ,when jews took the power.

    The only way such kind of Monsters exist in RUssia is that he hates humanity and is only
    interested in his own personal gain and fortune.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:29 pm

    Now we know why Leo won it this time.




    Huehuehuehe.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:19 pm

    Friday night "concert", real life, not for actors..

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:38 pm

    Vann7 wrote:..........................
    My question is if he a jew ?   Is amazing to even be aware such kind of rats can exist in Russia..............................

    Yes, because that is how real world works... Rolling Eyes

    Google "Elvis is alive and alien" it will blow your mind...

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:17 pm

    Don't obsess too much about Poroshenko's Jewishness... since he does not practice Judaism, does not speak Hebrew nor Yiddish (he speaks Russian and Ukrainian) etc. Damn, he even looks East Slavic.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:18 am

    US bringing in EW gear and we must assume the troops to operate it.

    MOSCOW, March 4. /TASS/. US Department of Defense has deployed two radio-electronic intelligence stations in the Kiev-controlled Markovo district of the Lugansk Region, the spokesman for the militia of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People’s Republic, Igor Yashchenko, has said.

    "According to our intelligence sources, the US Department of Defense representatives have placed two Trailblazer radio-electronic intelligence stations in the village of Kuryachovka, the Markovo district," the LuganskInformCenter news agency quotes him as saying.

    Yashchenko believes the Ukrainian government has been using ceasefire for building up the potential of its armed forces, for which it extensively uses assistance from foreign partners. "Also, US military prepares positions and permanent sites for placing two more medium-range radio relay stations capable of identifying air targets, including supersonic ones," he added.

    More: http://tass.ru/en/world/860661


    Target detection is accomplished using all available assets in the division, including the TSQ-114 "Trailblazer" radio intercept and direction finder. The systems was fielded in a typical Army Communications, Electronic Warfare, and Intelligence (CEWI) battalion in the late-1980�s, along with support vehicles. Throughout the 1980�s, multiple and substantial product improvements were made to the systems in an attempt to maintain pace with the rapidly changing threat environment within which the CEWI battalions must operate.

    The Trailblazer AN/TSQ-138 is a mobile, groundbased electronic warfare signals intelligence (EW/SIGINT) intercept system with VHF direction finding (DF) capability. It is used as a tactical direction finding and intercept system providing support to the tactical commander. It is mounted in the shelter of a tracked vehicle which tows a trailer support unit. Authorized level of distribution is for five TRAILBLAZER systems to be assigned to each heavy division. The system is used to search for, intercept, record, identify, locate, and report on radio signals in the HF/VHF/UHF frequency ranges. Trailblazer is capable of performing netted direction finding operations with other Trailblazers and various other platforms. The system interoperates with the airborne QUICKFIX system for direction finding.

    The Trailblazer Master Control Group consists of five AN/TSQ-138A Master Control Sets (MCS), and is organic to a heavy division military intelligence battalion. Each MCS is mounted on a M923A2 5-ton carrier. A Trailer Support Unit, which houses a 30 kilowatt generator is the primary power source for the MCS. The MCS and all it's electronic equipment is housed in an S-661 shelter. A quick erecting, self supporting telescopic mast for the DF antenna group, and separate antennas for HF intercept and voice link are attached to the top of the shelter. The shelter has a ballistically protected exterior to resist small arms fire. The MCS operator is capable of intercepting and monitoring signals in the HF, VHF, and UHF frequency bands. The MCS operator determines the locations of signal emitters by intercepting and analyzing signals of interest in the VHF band. DF tasking and other communications between MCSs are controlled by a secure data link.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:42 pm

    SIMFEROPOL (Sputnik) – Turkish military instructors, whose objective is to train mercenaries, have gathered in Ukraine's southern region of Kherson, which borders Crimea, the deputy prime minister of Russia's Republic of Crimea said Saturday.

    "We have reliable information that a plenty of military instructors from Turkey have gathered in the Kherson Region of Ukraine. Currently, there are attempts to create there a site for training mercenaries for fighting in open terrain and urban environments," Ruslan Balbek told RIA Novosti.

    The drills are backed by the Mejlis, Crimean Tatars' self-governing body, the official said.

    Balbek said that Turkey interested in the destabilization of the political situation in Ukraine and acting independently without the knowledge of the Kiev authorities.

    According to Balbek, the Kherson Region is facing the arrivals of radicals from Turkey, as well as militants who have fought in Syria for the Islamic State jihadist group, banned in Russia, and helped coups in Egypt and Libya.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:30 pm

    Saakashvili has brain seizure or is attempting to create new language by mixing Ukranian and Georgian and nobody understands what he is saying, probably drunk or drugs.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:01 pm

    Article on Lenta about ukrops 10th Naval Aviation Brigade which was based in Crimea. I'm editing the article to point out specific details of relevance. The commnader, Igor Bedzay, said that of the 900 men in his brigade in February 2014, only 300 left Crimea with the remainder deciding that it was better for them and their families to have more pay, better conditions and a better future by becoming Russians and joining Russian armed forces. Of the 300 who went back to Ukraine, 50 have since decided to return to Crimea. So out of a brigade of 900, ultimately only 250 have decided they want to be Ukranian, and Bedzay admits that 70% of his men now serve Russia. Article also reminds that in August last year Ukranian military prosecutors compiled list of 8000 serving members of Ukranian armed forces who changed sides. The prosecutors say "To Russia", but they joined Donetsk and Lugansk militias, and with what and now much equipement we still do not clearly know, but very substantial.
    http://lenta.ru/news/2016/03/04/zrada/

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  auslander on Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:02 pm

    I don't see anything odd about that clip, he sounds like the rest of that herd of fools in Kiev.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:37 pm

    Lugansk deputy chief of staff Yaschenko has given a run down of what ukrops have brought to the frontline in the last week. There is a lot of vague equipment of unspecified type, but amongst it can be seen enough identified equipment to make a tank battalion and an artillery brigade, not all in one place but spread along the Lugansk sector of the front, tho this is all extra to what is already known to be in place. He also points out that large numbers of men are now seen being brought to the front, and that amongst the latest equipment seen are Tunguska, as is also seen being brought from Kherson to the border with Crimea. http://lug-info.com/news/one/vsu-razmestili-v-stanichno-luganskom-raione-esche-8-tankov-i-2-rszo-grad-narodnaya-militsiya-11347

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:45 pm

    Do we know if there are Russian forces on Crimea able or even ready to strike north, that is the UA repositioned stuff is defensive, or is the UA stuff primarily offensive aimed at Crimea (as a diversion in the event of a UA strike into LPR/DNR) or southern Donbas?

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:02 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Do we know if there are Russian forces on Crimea able or even ready to strike north, that is the UA repositioned stuff is defensive, or is the UA stuff primarily offensive aimed at Crimea (as a diversion in the event of a UA strike into LPR/DNR) or southern Donbas?

    From the current state of the UAF there can't be two pushes at the same time. And divinding Ukrainian forces to attack both objectives, looks like:

    1. Automatic Peremoga.
    2. Posturing.

    If you want an analogy, it's like a company would align in two fronts against two battalions, on each front.

    Oh and guys, I'm going for a small trip in a nice country. Going to check out what remains of the Alexander in the Fire country.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:00 pm

    On thursday night there were explosions of grenades in apartments in two villages in Odessa oblast. It seemed odd and perhaps gangster related, but today another explosion in an apartment, this time in Chernigov. Three of these mysterious explosions in 48 hours seems more than coincidence maybe. In other news it has been denied about the reports from ukrops that VSN DRG had suffered 30 casualties during opertations near Mariupol.

    On the movements of ukrops from Kherson to the border. IMO it is for home comsumption, to make it seem something is being prepared to back up the rhetoric of Poroshenko and others about seizing Crimea. There is no possibility of them doing that, or in the present circumstances of any "invasion" of Ukraine from Crimea. However, the troop re-enforcements can be used to create an atmosphere of impending "Russian invasion" for a western audience. These troop movements come at the same time that some western media have returned to Donbass, reporting only from ukrops occupied territory of course, and while saying that it all hots up, which is true, that it is all from "Russian supporting rebels" who are "planning an attack". It is all a very simplistic and transparent cover story designed to bring to attention in the west that something is happening, or about to happen, but it is the ukrops who are preparing to defend themselves, and not the reality that it is them who are the real agressors. When the Kiev offensive comes, the headlines in west will not the reality of Ukraine launching an offensive, but the lie of Ukraine fighting back after "Russian invasion".

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  franco on Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:13 am

    From the Ukrainian Rada hearings;
    - only 215 out of 2300 SBU stayed loyal to Kiev and left Crimea
    - only 6,000 out of 20,320 servicemen stayed loyal and left Crimea
    - servicemen include Armed Forces, Border Guards, Ministry of the Interior and Emergency Services

    http://interfax.com.ua/news/general/322663.html

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

    Post  Khepesh on Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:07 am

    Just to point out that the figure from Ukranian military prosecutors of 8000 for deserters is soldiers of ATO in Donbass, so this number from Crimea should be added to make about 22000 in total who in eyes of Kiev are "deserters" from February 2014 onwards.

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    Post  medo on Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:40 am

    In my opinion, majority of Ukrainian soldiers, which stay in Crimea were mostly Crimeans, who want to stay at home and even support the decision of Crimeans to join Russian in referendum. Considering large number of deserters, who join Novorussian army, this is what you get, when you mobilize soldiers by force in eastern part of Ukraine, who oppose Kiev junta.

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