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    Dima

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Dima on Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:30 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:If we go by the counted fired tubes, there's about 1500+ delivered to the beheaders (Tubes are trickled down by 50/100 batches and according to tactical situation). I count basically about 80/100 tubes a month starting from April 2014. Some have been captured (the most recent case was in Rityan where two TOW tubes were captured) some have been duds. Most of them fired with a lot of hits. Not all of them fatal or worthy, but who cares.

    There have been all sorts of TOWs (US invetory, KSA, Turkish, Jordanian etc). Supplies haven't stopped. After a very poor month of January, the TOWs have been back in February (already 20 fired in a week) mostly because the Turks have found another way to deliver them. Most intriguing is the number of TOWs in Souther Syria. Usually 6 a month, they've fired already 4 the first week of February.

    Jordan playing games?
    Jordan probably yes but maybe outside of the official mandate (?). But south is not bordered just by Jordan, Israel has been another $hit supporting terrorist inside Syria.
    Btw, hope none of the newer RPG-32 whose production/assembly started in Jordan with Russian assistance last year (?) or earlier do not find its way to the terrorists.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:40 pm

    Dima wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:If we go by the counted fired tubes, there's about 1500+ delivered to the beheaders (Tubes are trickled down by 50/100 batches and according to tactical situation). I count basically about 80/100 tubes a month starting from April 2014. Some have been captured (the most recent case was in Rityan where two TOW tubes were captured) some have been duds. Most of them fired with a lot of hits. Not all of them fatal or worthy, but who cares.

    There have been all sorts of TOWs (US invetory, KSA, Turkish, Jordanian etc). Supplies haven't stopped. After a very poor month of January, the TOWs have been back in February (already 20 fired in a week) mostly because the Turks have found another way to deliver them. Most intriguing is the number of TOWs in Souther Syria. Usually 6 a month, they've fired already 4 the first week of February.

    Jordan playing games?
    Jordan probably yes but maybe outside of the official mandate (?). But south is not bordered just by Jordan, Israel has been another $hit supporting terrorist inside Syria.
    Btw, hope none of the newer RPG-32 whose production/assembly started in Jordan with Russian assistance last year (?) or earlier do not find its way to the terrorists.

    Even with the Hashem the AFV tactical environment wouldn't change that much. The only supplemental threat would come from remote controlled ATGM's, like the Ukro-Belarussian Skiff/Baryer. Many want the Javelin but that's just silly. Ironically the Javelin is less conspicuous than the TOW.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:45 pm

    Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Militarov on Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:13 pm



    Syrian-Turkish border, guess sides xD
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:30 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    Syrian-Turkish border, guess sides xD

    Where are those bombers when you need 'em.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:00 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.

    lol1
    Damn you Kotemore, you owe me a keyboard!!!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:22 pm

    Anytime brother.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:42 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.

    Holy hell, this guy is literally both crying and coughing out blood admitting that the Russians are gonna be victorious both militarily and politically. Shocked lol!

    This fool shows a complete and other lack of objective self-awareness, it's like he's channeling McCain, Brzezinski and even the ghost of McCarthy all at the same time. Suspect

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:56 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Syrian-Turkish border, guess sides xD

    Where are those bombers when you need 'em.
    It looks like trucks cars buses that people fleeing across the border have just dumped there. No tents or mass of people visible.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  VladimirSahin on Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:01 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Dima wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    Book. wrote:

    Russia T90 the SAA
    Intersting thing to note is that one guy right in front of the tank is in woodland camo heavily employed by SAA, but his hair is blonde.
    There are Syrian guys with similar blonde hair.

    There's also Syrians with red hair, there's also Syrians with blue eyes, like Bashar.

    I'm a Russian both parents green eyed and light hair, But I came out dark hair brown eyes. It's all in the facial structure and skin color.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  kvs on Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:05 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Syrian-Turkish border, guess sides xD

    Where are those bombers when you need 'em.
    It looks like trucks cars buses that people fleeing across the border have just dumped there. No tents or mass of people visible.

    Likely not even civilians.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:05 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.

    Holy hell, this guy is literally both crying and coughing out blood admitting that the Russians are gonna be victorious both militarily and politically. Shocked lol!  

    This fool shows a complete and other lack of objective self-awareness, it's like he's channeling McCain, Brzezinski and even the ghost of McCarthy all at the same time. Suspect

    That's because nobody told him how the game was played before. Also the demand for "counterweights" is idiotic. Given the clusterfuck the Syrian Moderats are about, giving "weaponry" those guys can't operate, this means US people killing Russian people. Or NATO getting caught killing Russians.

    I let you deduct what's going to happen in fronts where NATO is currently deployed. "Taliban" from Buryatia, sporting ATGM's is going to be one funny sight for US soldiers. Before they die.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  franco on Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:50 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.

    Holy hell, this guy is literally both crying and coughing out blood admitting that the Russians are gonna be victorious both militarily and politically. Shocked lol!  

    This fool shows a complete and other lack of objective self-awareness, it's like he's channeling McCain, Brzezinski and even the ghost of McCarthy all at the same time. Suspect

    That's because nobody told him how the game was played before. Also the demand for "counterweights" is idiotic. Given the clusterfuck the Syrian Moderats are about, giving "weaponry" those guys can't operate, this means US people killing Russian people. Or NATO getting caught killing Russians.

    I let you deduct what's going to happen in fronts where NATO is currently deployed. "Taliban" from Buryatia, sporting ATGM's is going to be one funny sight for US soldiers. Before they die.

    Atlantic Council is a neo-con institute so yeah, he is not happy!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:51 pm

    franco wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.

    Holy hell, this guy is literally both crying and coughing out blood admitting that the Russians are gonna be victorious both militarily and politically. Shocked lol!  

    This fool shows a complete and other lack of objective self-awareness, it's like he's channeling McCain, Brzezinski and even the ghost of McCarthy all at the same time. Suspect

    That's because nobody told him how the game was played before. Also the demand for "counterweights" is idiotic. Given the clusterfuck the Syrian Moderats are about, giving "weaponry" those guys can't operate, this means US people killing Russian people. Or NATO getting caught killing Russians.

    I let you deduct what's going to happen in fronts where NATO is currently deployed. "Taliban" from Buryatia, sporting ATGM's is going to be one funny sight for US soldiers. Before they die.

    Atlantic Council is a neo-con institute so yeah, he is not happy!

    Which reminds me, I wonder how our chum Elliot Higgins has been getting on these days...

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:03 pm

    I posted this in the Syria thread as most of it is relevant there. The last para makes more sense here. My highlight

    But more dangerous is Moscow’s statement that it has “strong grounds to believe that Turkey is preparing for a ground incursion into Syria”. The source comments, “Russia has red lines that it will allow no one to cross, Russia is preparing a strong Syrian military unit that will serve to repel any Turkish ground incursions, Damascus has the right to defend its borders, and will not stay silent anymore to any aerial violations of Syrian sovereignty, and is preparing for any ground offensive by the Turks with aerial bombardment and ground shelling. Russia considers any plane not operating within the US-Russia coordination agreement to be a threat and will be shot down, Russia has also taken further precaution by deploying the S-400 missile system, and has brought in Su-35 that is in service for the first time, and it has further upgraded the Syrians' MiG-29's in case they are needed to repel any Turkish advancements. The Kremlin wanted to send to Turkey a message that says any incursion by you will be met by force not diplomacy”.

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/02/russia-is-preparing-syrian-army-to.html
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  BKP on Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:32 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.

    Holy hell, this guy is literally both crying and coughing out blood admitting that the Russians are gonna be victorious both militarily and politically. Shocked lol!  

    This fool shows a complete and other lack of objective self-awareness, it's like he's channeling McCain, Brzezinski and even the ghost of McCarthy all at the same time. Suspect

    Running throughout that thing you'll notice the smug, unquestioned certainty that the West, and particularly the US, is morally superior to Russia and other official enemies. When you see that tell-tale word "humanitarian" bandied about so liberally, it brings on the gag reflex.

    I keep saying it, but this is the key propaganda self-delusion/insanity of the West. They can starve 500k children to death and call it "well worth it," organize and arm murderous lunatics, and slaughter hundreds of thousand for the sake of pipeline corridors, but they still would never even think to question the conceit by which they hold themselves the moral center of the world.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:37 am

    BKP wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wonderful Butthurt.

    Top Class 48 karat golden tears.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/west-looks-putin-steals-military-victory-syria-423568?rm=eu

    Dingo Putin stole the baby.

    Holy hell, this guy is literally both crying and coughing out blood admitting that the Russians are gonna be victorious both militarily and politically. Shocked lol!  

    This fool shows a complete and other lack of objective self-awareness, it's like he's channeling McCain, Brzezinski and even the ghost of McCarthy all at the same time. Suspect

    Running throughout that thing you'll notice the smug, unquestioned certainty that the West, and particularly the US, is morally superior to Russia and other official enemies. When you see that tell-tale word "humanitarian" bandied about so liberally, it brings on the gag reflex.

    I keep saying it, but this is the key propaganda self-delusion/insanity of the West. They can starve 500k children to death and call it "well worth it," organize and arm murderous lunatics, and slaughter hundreds of thousand for the sake of pipeline corridors, but they still would never even think to question the conceit by which they hold themselves the moral center of the world.

    Yep, a complete lack of objective self-awareness.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:22 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    ult wrote:03 and 05 on previous video. 06 and 05 on this one.


    05 red at 0:48 minute is coming back having fired an R-77?

    Will a star kill marking be painted on it now?

    Guys, has anyone seen the 05 red with an air-to-air kill marking yet?
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:48 pm

    Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang.



    Remember kids, there's no other God but Sukhoi and OFAB is his messenger.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:14 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang.



    Remember kids, there's no other God but Sukhoi and OFAB is his messenger.


    0:03 Clear blue sky angel

    0:05 Dark oblivion Twisted Evil

    It like entire fabric of reality disintegrated around these fools.... lol1

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  DerWolf on Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:00 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    ult wrote:03 and 05 on previous video. 06 and 05 on this one.


    05 red at 0:48 minute is coming back having fired an R-77?

    Will a star kill marking be painted on it now?

    Guys, has anyone seen the 05 red with an air-to-air kill marking yet?
    We will see that only if turkey starts its offensive in Syria.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  short_fuze on Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:28 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    ult wrote:03 and 05 on previous video. 06 and 05 on this one.


    05 red at 0:48 minute is coming back having fired an R-77?

    Will a star kill marking be painted on it now?

    Guys, has anyone seen the 05 red with an air-to-air kill marking yet?

    The following video shows a possible malfunction (0:15 to 0:30) on the port inboard weapon carrier of an unidentified Su-35. The forward weapon release clip does not retract properly. That may explain the missing inboard missile on 05 which is seen taxying with 04 behind at 1:20.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpVEWipSx5k

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Dima on Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:03 pm

    маяковский ‏@moscow_ghost  4 hours ago
    #Russia confirms Chechen special forces, spy network active behind enemy lines in Syria

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Neutrality on Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:20 pm

    I'll leave this one here:

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:28 pm

    short_fuze wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    ult wrote:03 and 05 on previous video. 06 and 05 on this one.


    05 red at 0:48 minute is coming back having fired an R-77?

    Will a star kill marking be painted on it now?

    Guys, has anyone seen the 05 red with an air-to-air kill marking yet?

    The following video shows a possible malfunction (0:15 to 0:30) on the port inboard weapon carrier of an unidentified Su-35. The forward weapon release clip does not retract properly. That may explain the missing inboard missile on 05 which is seen taxying with 04 behind at 1:20.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpVEWipSx5k


    You are right; that seems to be the explanation.

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