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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Dima on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:17 am

    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD

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    Its really bad news for the ISIS airforce and equally bad for murican fanboys. Very Happy

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  ult on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:49 am

    03 and 05 on previous video. 06 and 05 on this one.



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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  medo on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:12 am

    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD


    Excellent find. thumbsup Syrian deployment is quite interesting. We first time see in Syria, that Russian army have Pantsir-S2, before we only know they have Pantsir-S1 and now we see, that they have R-77-1 missiles in armament. I hope RuAF will also send Ka-52 helicopters armed with Vikhr missiles.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:25 am

    medo wrote:
    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD


    Excellent find. thumbsup  Syrian deployment is quite interesting. We first time see in Syria, that Russian army have Pantsir-S2, before we only know they have Pantsir-S1 and now we see, that they have R-77-1 missiles in armament. I hope RuAF will also send Ka-52 helicopters armed with Vikhr missiles.

    I hope they also deploy Iskander-M, and Murmansk-BM in Latakia. Yes, I know Murmansk-BM units in Crimea already have the range to affect Turkey, but I would love to see Murmansk-BM deployed in Syria, and north-western Iran, and give the Turks the electro-magnetic equivalent of a Debaltsevo cauldron lol! Twisted Evil
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  medo on Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:20 am

    I hope all Su-30SM will also be equipped with ECM pods and R-77-1 missiles. They should also place R-77-1 missiles to Su-34 as well for self defense.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:10 am

    Dima wrote:
    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD

    thumbsup
    Its really bad news for the ISIS airforce and equally bad for murican fanboys. Very Happy

    It also shakes the credibility of some of our own "reputable" posters who are very cautious (and conservative) in their views...

    Today, it is the "Russia-strong" folks who score a point against the guys who want to appear as "credible" and "authoritative".



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    Post  ult on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:00 am


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    Post  Guest on Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:47 am

    TheArmenian wrote:
    Dima wrote:
    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD

    thumbsup
    Its really bad news for the ISIS airforce and equally bad for murican fanboys. Very Happy

    It also shakes the credibility of some of our own "reputable" posters who are very cautious (and conservative) in their views...

    Today, it is the "Russia-strong" folks who score a point against the guys who want to appear as "credible" and "authoritative".


    It's been like this since the start of the Russian intervention. Kalibr missiles, Strategic bombers, and now the Su-35S has jumped in. There were a ton of people who believed that the Russian Air Force could not even handle an operation like this.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  franco on Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:52 am

    The "rusty bucket" article said it best thumbsup
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:19 am

    ult wrote:03 and 05 on previous video. 06 and 05 on this one.


    05 at 0:48 minute is coming back having fired an R-77?

    Will a star kill marking be painted on it now?
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:22 am

    TheArmenian wrote:

    It also shakes the credibility of some of our own "reputable" posters who are very cautious (and conservative) in their views...


    +1000

    They never had any credibility; they just had ...


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:29 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:
    Dima wrote:
    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD

    thumbsup
    Its really bad news for the ISIS airforce and equally bad for murican fanboys. Very Happy

    It also shakes the credibility of some of our own "reputable" posters who are very cautious (and conservative) in their views...

    Today, it is the "Russia-strong" folks who score a point against the guys who want to appear as "credible" and "authoritative".


    It's been like this since the start of the Russian intervention. Kalibr missiles, Strategic bombers, and now the Su-35S has jumped in. There were a ton of people who believed that the Russian Air Force could not even handle an operation like this.
    Those posters arent here anymore.  And if you check out the forums were they go, at least they admitted they were wrong.

    I for one would have expected more Su-30SM.  But these Su-35's are a real nice touch.  I am also happy to see the Pantsir-S2 also now in service.  Hopefully they keep those Turks and Sauds aircrafts out.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Shadåw on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:37 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:
    Dima wrote:
    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD

    thumbsup
    Its really bad news for the ISIS airforce and equally bad for murican fanboys. Very Happy

    It also shakes the credibility of some of our own "reputable" posters who are very cautious (and conservative) in their views...

    Today, it is the "Russia-strong" folks who score a point against the guys who want to appear as "credible" and "authoritative".


    It's been like this since the start of the Russian intervention. Kalibr missiles, Strategic bombers, and now the Su-35S has jumped in. There were a ton of people who believed that the Russian Air Force could not even handle an operation like this.
    Those posters arent here anymore.  And if you check out the forums were they go, at least they admitted they were wrong.

    I for one would have expected more Su-30SM.  But these Su-35's are a real nice touch.  I am also happy to see the Pantsir-S2 also now in service.  Hopefully they keep those Turks and Sauds aircrafts out.

    Not to mention we..can slap the battle-tested mark on those birds and equipment! Which we know certain elements like to brag about that theirs are.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:56 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:
    Dima wrote:
    zg18 wrote:"Say hello to my new turkish friend", Su-35S armed with RVV-SD

    thumbsup
    Its really bad news for the ISIS airforce and equally bad for murican fanboys. Very Happy

    It also shakes the credibility of some of our own "reputable" posters who are very cautious (and conservative) in their views...

    Today, it is the "Russia-strong" folks who score a point against the guys who want to appear as "credible" and "authoritative".


    It's been like this since the start of the Russian intervention. Kalibr missiles, Strategic bombers, and now the Su-35S has jumped in. There were a ton of people who believed that the Russian Air Force could not even handle an operation like this.
    Those posters arent here anymore.  And if you check out the forums were they go, at least they admitted they were wrong.

    I for one would have expected more Su-30SM.  But these Su-35's are a real nice touch.  I am also happy to see the Pantsir-S2 also now in service.  Hopefully they keep those Turks and Sauds aircrafts out.

    I personally did not expect Su-35S to be sent to Syria so soon as i posted some month ago already somewhere, as they were basically "yesterday" cleared for service due to issues. I expected more Su-30s to be sent but oh well i guess there is some logic behind it to observe how well they do in field, dust, heat and everything that comes with exploatation.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:55 am

    Shadåw wrote:
    Not to mention we..can slap the battle-tested mark on those birds and equipment! Which we know certain elements like to brag about that theirs are.

    But, but, but they are not 3rd largest army in the world!!! Owa's izh till betta!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Erk on Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:47 am

    Militarov wrote:
    It's been like this since the start of the Russian intervention. Kalibr missiles, Strategic bombers, and now the Su-35S has jumped in. There were a ton of people who believed that the Russian Air Force could not even handle an operation like this.
    Those posters arent here anymore.  And if you check out the forums were they go, at least they admitted they were wrong.

    I for one would have expected more Su-30SM.  But these Su-35's are a real nice touch.  I am also happy to see the Pantsir-S2 also now in service.  Hopefully they keep those Turks and Sauds aircrafts out.[/quote]

    I personally did not expect Su-35S to be sent to Syria so soon as i posted some month ago already somewhere, as they were basically "yesterday" cleared for service due to issues. I expected more Su-30s to be sent but oh well i guess there is some logic behind it to observe how well they do in field, dust, heat and everything that comes with exploatation.[/quote]

    It will be a good field test for the Su-35s, help iron out any problems.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:02 am

    Erk wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronX wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    It's been like this since the start of the Russian intervention. Kalibr missiles, Strategic bombers, and now the Su-35S has jumped in. There were a ton of people who believed that the Russian Air Force could not even handle an operation like this.
    Those posters arent here anymore.  And if you check out the forums were they go, at least they admitted they were wrong.

    I for one would have expected more Su-30SM.  But these Su-35's are a real nice touch.  I am also happy to see the Pantsir-S2 also now in service.  Hopefully they keep those Turks and Sauds aircrafts out.

    I personally did not expect Su-35S to be sent to Syria so soon as i posted some month ago already somewhere, as they were basically "yesterday" cleared for service due to issues. I expected more Su-30s to be sent but oh well i guess there is some logic behind it to observe how well they do in field, dust, heat and everything that comes with exploatation.

    It will be a good field test for the Su-35s, help iron out any problems.


    Exactly.  As Berkut said, they had their problems and the Su-35S had to go back to KnAAPO in order to get fixed not long after being inducted.  So this will help with any other issues that may come up.  Best experience imo is real time experiences.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:10 am

    Erk wrote:Those posters arent here anymore.

    lol!

    But, at least they are pretending that they weren't "those posters".


    Aren't users blah blah a few of "those posters"?


    What would those posters do if instead of seeing mere R-77s, they see some of the latest stuff?


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:22 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Erk wrote:Those posters arent here anymore.

    lol!

    But, at least they are pretending that they weren't "those posters".


    Aren't users blah blah a few of "those posters"?


    What would those posters do if instead of seeing mere R-77s, they see some of the latest stuff?

    Did someone here challenge the fact that Su-35 was kitted out with R-77 from day1?
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:45 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Erk wrote:Those posters arent here anymore.

    lol!

    But, at least they are pretending that they weren't "those posters".


    Aren't users blah blah a few of "those posters"?


    What would those posters do if instead of seeing mere R-77s, they see some of the latest stuff?

    Did someone here challenge the fact that Su-35 was kitted out with R-77 from day1?

    This matter isn't just related to R-77, but until 24 hours ago there were many here who were under the belief that there are no R-77s in the Russian service.

    However, as I mentioned, this is not really even remotely related just to R-77, T-50, Kh-101, T-4MS, and the like, the issue is that many human beings are under the impression that what they see defines the whole extent of the universe.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:52 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:This matter isn't just related to R-77, but until 24 hours ago there were many here who were under the belief that there are no R-77s in the Russian secretive.

    However, as I mentioned, this is not remotely really related just to R-77, T-50, Kh-101, T-4MS, and the like, the issue is that many human beings are under the impression that what they see defines the whole extent of the universe.

    RuAF has come a long way since 5 months ago, R-77 included, which was scarcely seen. The initial Su-30SM deployment lacked such missiles. This war is allowing them to get their *** together and start evaluating their stuff in combat, stop being so slow and all that. Also pre Su-24 downing, seeing non-AA missile equipped Su-34 operate was very strange. Coalition strictly equips fighter bombers with AIM-9/AIM-120 since... like forever.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  Book. on Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:25 pm



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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:12 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:This matter isn't just related to R-77, but until 24 hours ago there were many here who were under the belief that there are no R-77s in the Russian secretive.

    However, as I mentioned, this is not remotely really related just to R-77, T-50, Kh-101, T-4MS, and the like, the issue is that many human beings are under the impression that what they see defines the whole extent of the universe.

    RuAF has come a long way since 5 months ago, R-77 included, which was scarcely seen. The initial Su-30SM deployment lacked such missiles. This war is allowing them to get their *** together and start evaluating their stuff in combat, stop being so slow and all that. Also pre Su-24 downing, seeing non-AA missile equipped Su-34 operate was very strange. Coalition strictly equips fighter bombers with AIM-9/AIM-120 since... like forever.

    I said it back then, Russia agreed not to deploy S400 and to keep AA assets light because Israel asked nicely and Pentagon vouched for their lapdogs chiefly among them turks.

    So when turks went full retard they did not only backstab Russia, they pissed all over any credibility US military might still have had with Russian military. I greatly dislike Pentagon to say the least but I am sure even they weren't too thrilled with turk idiocy.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #7

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:28 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    So when turks went full retard they did not only backstab Russia, they pissed all over any credibility US military might still have had with Russian military. I greatly dislike Pentagon to say the least but I am sure even they weren't too thrilled with turk idiocy.
    I see you are into weekend understatement mode. The US must have gone, as they might have said, ape shit. In the few minutes it took, they destroyed months or even years of investment giving the Russians the unarguable reason for up-arming whilst killing the possible 'buffer' zone.

    It may well go down in history as one of the classic strategic blunders. Brilliant move by Erdo on behalf of his best buddy Assad.

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