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    A–235 Nudol ASAT and ABM system

    Post  Viktor on Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:27 pm

    It was about a bloody time ...  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

    Washington Left in the Dust: Russia Flies Strategic Space Warfare Missile

    Moscow carried out the first successful flight test of its new anti-satellite missile last month, becoming just the second nation to arm its military with space warfare weapons.

    Russia's direct ascent anti-satellite missile, known as Nudol, was successfully tested on November 18, according to defense officials familiar with reports of the test. It was the first successful test in three attempts, the Washington Free Beacon reported
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    Russia now joins China as the only nations with strategic space warfare weapons. In October, China conducted a flight test of its anti-satellite missile, the Dong Neng-3 direct ascent missile.
    Analysts say anti-satellite missiles could cripple US intelligence, navigation, and communications capabilities that are critical for both military operations and civilian infrastructure.
    The Russian test is a concern for Washington, Representative Mike Pompeo, a Kansas Republican, told the paper.
    "As President Obama cuts our defense budget and seeks to ally with Putin, the Russians continue to develop their technological abilities to weaponize space and to take out our national technical means – kinetically and through cyber," said Pompeo, a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.


    "We can foolishly turn a blind eye to these developments, or acknowledge this threat and develop our own capabilities to ensure that our satellites – military and commercial – are not susceptible to attack or blackmail."
    Former Pentagon official Mark Schneider said the Russian test highlights the failure of the United States to prepare for space warfare.
    "There is an enormous asymmetry in play regarding space weapons," said Schneider, now with the National Institute for Public Policy.


    "For decades the Congress has prevented the US from putting weapons in space and even developing a ground-based ASAT capability," Schneider said. "There is no such constraint upon the Russians and Russia violates arms control treaties when this is in their interest to do so and they find ample opportunity to do this."

    A February 2015 unclassified Defense Intelligence Agency report to the Congress stated that "Chinese and Russian military leaders understand the unique information advantages afforded by space systems and are developing capabilities to deny US use of space in the event of a conflict," Schneider added.



    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151202/1031144367/russia-anti-satellite-space-missile.html#ixzz3tCGIkmXx

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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT and ABM system

    Post  Mike E on Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:58 pm

    What the heck is 'Nudol'. Is it related to S-500 or something else entirely?

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:20 pm

    ... kinetically and through cyber," said Pompeo, a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

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    Post  max steel on Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:38 pm

    Why US is pissed as ususal ? They have ASAT too. Neutral


    Btw What's the difference in this new ASAT and previous ASATs ?


    Meanwhile : No Enemy Needed: US Jammed Its Own Satellites 261 Times This Year Alone

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    Post  artjomh on Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:16 pm

    Mike E wrote:What the heck is 'Nudol'. Is it related to S-500 or something else entirely?

    It's not S-500 or ASAT. Nudol is a missile defense system codename.


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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT and ABM system

    Post  George1 on Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:15 pm

    Τhis vehicle isn't a S-500 illustration??

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1608161.html


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    Post  Flanky on Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:43 pm

    I would be very surprised if this Nudol development was not related to S-500. Both systems needs to reach orbit so... on the contrary. I would not be surprised if Nudol would be just a version or a unit part of S-500 Samoderzhets. But lets not forget Hypersonic vehicles. These will give Russians the trye global strike capability within a reasonable time of like 1-2 hours anywhere on earth...

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    Post  max steel on Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:31 am

    Flanky wrote:I would be very surprised if this Nudol development was not related to S-500. Both systems needs to reach orbit so... on the contrary. I would not be surprised if Nudol would be just a version or a unit part of S-500 Samoderzhets. But lets not forget Hypersonic vehicles. These will give Russians the trye global strike capability within a reasonable time of like 1-2 hours anywhere on earth...



    RUSSIA has its own hypersonic boost weapon. But they've been failing in tests since 80s.

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    A–235 Nudol ASAT and ABM system

    Post  Viktor on Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:28 pm

    Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile Very Happy thumbsup thumbsup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzTKcyTfk

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:47 pm

    Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile Very Happy  thumbsup  thumbsup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzTKcyTfk

    It's said that 'Nudol' (pictured in the Almaz-Antey calendar) is the launcher for the A-235 system, and like the video states it's attributes are highly classified, but I've heard rumors of the range being 1,200 km and even as high as 2,500 km with conventional HE-Frag warhead.


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    Post  kvs on Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:58 pm

    Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile Very Happy  thumbsup  thumbsup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzTKcyTfk

    1) The claim that removing nuclear warheads saves money is utter BS. All ABM systems have to use nuclear warheads to overcome
    the physics problems of interception. Some non-existent savings from using fragmentation warheads at the expense of system
    effectiveness are just retarded and I do not believe for a moment the claims in this video.

    2) If at some point Uncle Scam wants to negotiate (Minsk style) to castrate Russia's ABM and ICBM systems, Russia needs
    to tell Uncle Scam to take a 15-25 year hike. It is just and proper for the children of NATO elites to wet their beds in fear
    of nuclear annihilation. This is what keeps the peace. Without this fear the NATO elites start to get drunk on their own
    racist propaganda koolaid about owning all of human intelligence and being able to win nuclear wars.

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:50 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile Very Happy  thumbsup  thumbsup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzTKcyTfk

    1) The claim that removing nuclear warheads saves money is utter BS.   All ABM systems have to use nuclear warheads to overcome
    the physics problems of interception.   Some non-existent savings from using fragmentation warheads at the expense of system
    effectiveness are just retarded and I do not believe for a moment the claims in this video.

    2) If at some point Uncle Scam wants to negotiate (Minsk style) to castrate Russia's ABM and ICBM systems, Russia needs
    to tell Uncle Scam to take a 15-25 year hike.   It is just and proper for the children of NATO elites to wet their beds in fear
    of nuclear annihilation.   This is what keeps the peace.   Without this fear the NATO elites start to get drunk on their own
    racist propaganda koolaid about owning all of human intelligence and being able to win nuclear wars.  
    +100500

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:12 am

    kvs wrote:It is just and proper for the children of NATO elites to wet their beds in fear of nuclear annihilation.   This is what keeps the peace.   Without this fear the NATO elites start to get drunk on their own racist propaganda koolaid about owning all of human intelligence and being able to win nuclear wars.  

    Bingo. Well spoken, could not agree more....

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    Post  Austin on Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:10 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile Very Happy  thumbsup  thumbsup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzTKcyTfk

    It's said that 'Nudol' (pictured in the Almaz-Antey calendar) is the launcher for the A-235 system, and like the video states it's attributes are highly classified, but I've heard rumors of the range being 1,200 km and even as high as 2,500 km with conventional HE-Frag warhead.


    That launcher in picture is for S-500 , A-235 will be fixed system like US GMD

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    Post  Viktor on Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:23 pm

    Austin ... it does not need to be. A-235 could be mobile due to the hi efficiency fuel and new materials. Its jot like its 1960. Science has evolved  Smile

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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT and ABM system

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:05 pm

    Austin...that picture is not of the S-500. It is the A-235. There are no photos of the S-500 yet.

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    Post  Militarov on Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:14 pm

    Austin wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile Very Happy  thumbsup  thumbsup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzTKcyTfk

    It's said that 'Nudol' (pictured in the Almaz-Antey calendar) is the launcher for the A-235 system, and like the video states it's attributes are highly classified, but I've heard rumors of the range being 1,200 km and even as high as 2,500 km with conventional HE-Frag warhead.


    That launcher in picture is for S-500 , A-235 will be fixed system like US GMD

    Thing on pic should be Izd 14C033 launcher for Nudol, however there was never confirmation from either Almaz or Russian MoD.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:23 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Austin wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile Very Happy  thumbsup  thumbsup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzTKcyTfk

    It's said that 'Nudol' (pictured in the Almaz-Antey calendar) is the launcher for the A-235 system, and like the video states it's attributes are highly classified, but I've heard rumors of the range being 1,200 km and even as high as 2,500 km with conventional HE-Frag warhead.


    That launcher in picture is for S-500 , A-235 will be fixed system like US GMD

    Thing on pic should be Izd 14C033 launcher for Nudol, however there was never confirmation from either Almaz or Russian MoD.


    Plaform-O. I think the real reason why there was no confirmation is that they're trying to gauge the reaction of Lukashenko. He (Lukashenko) has been really dead set on not letting Russia have controlling shares of MZKT, but he needs to realize that Russia has learned it's lesson in Ukraine. No controlling shares means that a Maidan coup govt. could just jump right in and destroy all contracts, I mean just look at the tragedy of Antonov and Motor Sich. If only such legendary companies could of been bought out 10 years ago, we wouldn't have to deal with the current mess right now! Hopefully Minsk-II ends soon so the NAF can take over strategic industries in SE Ukraine such as Moto Sich based in Zaporizhia, and Yuzhmash based in Dnipropetrovsk.

    Lukashenko should deflate his humongous ego (especially now considering sanctions have been lifted) and start using his brain cells, otherwise Platform-O should start to replace MZKT trucks due to strategic concerns.

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    Post  Militarov on Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:58 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:



    Plaform-O. I think the real reason why there was no confirmation is that they're trying to gauge the reaction of Lukashenko. He (Lukashenko) has been really dead set on not letting Russia have controlling shares of MZKT, but he needs to realize that Russia has learned it's lesson in Ukraine. No controlling shares means that a Maidan coup govt. could just jump right in and destroy all contracts, I mean just look at the tragedy of Antonov and Motor Sich. If only such legendary companies could of been bought out 10 years ago, we wouldn't have to deal with the current mess right now! Hopefully Minsk-II ends soon so the NAF can take over strategic industries in SE Ukraine such as Moto Sich based in Zaporizhia, and Yuzhmash based in Dnipropetrovsk.

    Lukashenko should deflate his humongous ego (especially now considering sanctions have been lifted) and start using his brain cells, otherwise Platform-O should start to replace MZKT trucks due to strategic concerns.

    I actually belive on photo is modified MZKT-79291 platform. Same vehicle that is supposed to be used as carriage for Rubez ICBM.



    Well plan is to eventually use Platform-O in all of its variants for the army purposes to reduce needs for import of automotive spare parts, as there is big chance that Belarus might fall well under Western sphere of influence in next few years.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:33 am

    Russia tests Nudol anti-satellite system

    Back in December 2015, Bill Gertz reported on a "the first successful flight test of a new anti-satellite missile." According to Gertz's source in the Pentagon, the test, conducted on November 18, 2015, was a third (and the first successful) test of a system known as Nudol. It is said to be a direct-ascent ASAT system.

    The name Nudol appeared a few times in various reports over the last few years, so it is not entirely new. This report says that parts of the Nudol project are carried out by the Novator design bureau in Ekaterinburg. Another suggests that Almaz-Antey acts as the lead developer and the missile is known as 14A042. (A search for "14А042" returns a link to a very interesting letter, but you have to know Russian to fully appreciate it. In brief, it's a colorful complaint about four bolts that didn't quite fit specifications.)

    There is, in fact, an image to come with the name, although it is difficult to say how close this image is to the real thing.

    There is not much more to report today beyond what Bill Gertz wrote in December. But there are a few interesting details. First, the system that is being tested in indeed Nudol. At this point, however, the tests do not involve a kill vehicle - these are tests of the launcher. Given the Novator role it is safe to assume that the launcher uses solid-propellant motors. The missiles are launched from the Plesetsk test site with burnout stages falling somewhere in the Nenets Autonomous Okrug.

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2016/04/russia_tests_nudol_anti-satell.shtml


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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:14 am

    All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.

    Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.

    China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:21 am

    can we have a graphic view of this nudol ASAT?


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:24 am

    x_54_u43 wrote:All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.

    Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.

    China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.

    ...Seriously, the USSR was the first nation to carry out ASAT tests back in the early 1970's, then the US carried out it's first ASAT tests back in the mid-1980's, then China conducted there first ASAT test in......2007, more than 4 decades after Russia had the ability.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:29 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    x_54_u43 wrote:All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.

    Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.

    China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.

    ...Seriously, the USSR was the first nation to carry out ASAT tests back in the early 1970's, then the US carried out it's first ASAT tests back in the mid-1980's, then China conducted there first ASAT test in......2007, more than 4 decades after Russia had the ability.

    The problem is that people thought Russia lost that ability. It wasn't that they lost it, it is just that they knew their systems worked for so long that there was no need to test it. Essentially, this Nudal is really just a newer system. And Artjohm is correct, it is actually tied to the missile defense system program. Essentially, this may very well be an addition to S-500. But seems to be tied to A-135 missile defense systems. So they needed to test it out, and so they did, and apparently was a success. So this is just a new move to a different system. Part of the aerospace defense as a whole. The old systems are more than likely still in place.

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