flamming_python wrote:Mustafa wrote:Look...i already said that i´m sorry for what happened and alot of my people share this idea. I find it strange that i must read here genocide comments from people who want our country destroyed and genocide put on us.
Russia had similar events with much greater desaster. MH17 for example or the shot down of the korean 747. Things like this happen and it is sad when such things happen. I believe that our nations will figure this out.
Russia did provocate alot and corssed our boarder multiple times. Our boarder must be protected and i´m sure russia would defend its boarder as well. I already said shooting down the airplane was propably too much.
We aren´t your enemy and if a mistake was done we will try to compensate it. Unfortunately no life that was lost can be brought back, but we aren´t evil or bad people.
And please it would be nice if some here scale down their wishs for genocide and mass murder.
I'm sorry for the idiots here who scream for genocide, most of them are not actually Russian. I don't know any Russians who scream for genocide of Turks - there are many mixed marriages and so on. It makes me very sad thinking about such things.
If the pilots had been rescued successfully; or if the rebels had at least captured them but treated them humanely as by Geneva Conventions, and there was further no loss of life following an ambushed rescue mission - then I think this incident wouldn't have affected ordinary people's perceptions of anything. A Su-24M is just a machine, I don't feel sorry for it if its destroyed. Mistake made, pilot's made an error, Turks were too trigger happy - slight expenses over the loss of the plane, but no big deal.
But our 2 guys that died will generate bad blood, it's inevitable. They had no chance to defend themselves; they were just slaughtered. And of course Erdogan is directly to blame for this. Everyone understands that he did it to protect his Islamist allies in Latakia, not because of some slight airspace violation. This action was premeditated and designed to send a message to Russia, and this message got our servicemen killed.
And the Turkish government's reaction is simply rubbing it in even more. If the Turkish government had immediately contacted Russia after the incident, avoided taking a public position or justifying anything, much less convening NATO over it - again, much trouble could have been avoided.
I know and i feel sorry about that. But what happened happened and i understand things are too heated up right now to have clear ideas.