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    Post  Khepesh on Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:40 am

    My use of the word "flood" in the previous post is perhaps a little premature, but I am thinking further ahead, which is why I also used the name "Megiddo"....
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    Post  Erk on Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:40 am

    To understand what’s happening in Syria right now, you have to understand the tactics and motivations of the US and NATO -- parties sharing interwoven aims and goals in the Middle East/North African (MENA) region.

    While the populations of Europe and the US are fed raw propaganda about the regional aims involved, the reality is far different.

    Where the propaganda claims that various bad dictators have to be taken out, or that democracy is the goal, neither have anything at all to do with what’s actually happening or has happened in the region.

    For starters, we all know that if oil fields were not at stake then the West would care much much less about MENA affairs.

    But a lot of outside interests do care. And their aims certainly and largely include controlling the region’s critical energy resources. There’s a lot of concern over whether Russia or China will instead come to dominate these last, best oil reserves on the planet.
    Opening paragraphs from an interesting article by Dr. Chris Martenson worth reading the whole thing.

    http://www.peakprosperity.com/insider/95544/murder-and-mayhem-middle-east
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    Post  Khepesh on Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:49 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Any division of Syria, or Iraq for that matter would have to be agreed by the UN. China for a start is paranoid about such things making it a very difficult option. Autonomy within the current borders is perhaps a more likely option.
    What you are saying is right, but it is right in an older universe where UN might have occasionaly meant something. Iraq 2003, Libya 2011, and now with Cameron making his own "international laws" to justify waging war on Syria when he has not been attacked by Syria, show that UN is, as I always thought, simply a lavatory for the vomitting of crap from mouths. This is a bold statement I know, and some will disagree, but IMO the world certainly changed at maidan and we live in a new one that is unformed and chaotic, but a "planned chaos" to an extent and caused by Washington. Old rules are zombies and new rules emerge, there is the beginning of a fight for the world.

    Yeah, drama, but look what happens now, it all changes....

    Edit: It's about this and acting to stop America from further troublemaking and expansion. What America has been doing since 1991 could never have been allowed to continue without end, and so begins the fight back. https://www.rt.com/news/324220-nato-agree-montenegro-membership/
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    Post  whir on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:06 pm

    Khepesh wrote:Yeah, drama, but look what happens now, it all changes....
    It changes nothing, it's all about PR at this stage, euro politicians need to fight IS to look tough.
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    Post  Godric on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:20 pm

    Khepesh wrote:It became difficult to know what to write in what thread.......
    Anyway, this concerns Syria. So now it seems Germany is to be involved, and later today the British will vote to go to war. I wrote on another thread that it is an objective of America to flood Syria with as many NATO and Syria hating Arab countries as possible in order to totaly confuse the situation and make it difficult for Syria to emerge from this still as a unified country under Assad. I see the entire east and most of the northern areas of Syria being cut off from the rest of Syria and nothing to be done other than for Syria to wage war on it's own soil against NATO, and Assad will loose. But what of Russia, to either remain and fight with Assad or to withdraw to avoid a major war that America now very clearly wants, and I do not see that happening. The actual Megiddo is in Israel these days, but seems it moves, metaphorically, north. Perhaps in this mess Egypt will wake up and realise it needs to be on the right side of history and support Assad, or even invade Libya as Vietnam invaded Cambodia to sort out the mess. What is to be done?

    not the British Khepesh the English, The Welsh and the N Irish at least 56 of the 59 Scottish MPs are voting against getting involved because we know that this is about appeasing the war mongering Yanks
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:28 pm

    JohninMK wrote: Any division of Syria, or Iraq for that matter would have to be agreed by the UN. China for a start is paranoid about such things making it a very difficult option. Autonomy within the current borders is perhaps a more likely option.


    Then what criminal organization KFOR is doing in Serbian province Kosovo? did Serbian govt or UNSC allowed this? nope

    Same with Syria all "peace and rule of law loving" countries like USA/UK/France or Germany somehow forgot to ask legitimate govt of Syria to bomb their land... In some cities in Syrians thest is less islamists then in London or Birmingham, not to mention Brussels  for example. isn´t it?


    Oh well yet another rule of law and respect of human rights manifestation "western style"

    Baghdad was angered about the US intention to send to Iraq special forces
    http://www.rg.ru/2015/12/02/irak-anons.html

    The deployment of foreign ground troops in Iraq could not be conducted without the consent of the official Baghdad. This was stated by Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi.

    "The Iraqi government stresses that any military operation or deployment of any foreign troops - special or not - in any of the places of Iraq cannot happen without the approval (by the authorities), coordination (of actions with Baghdad), and full respect for Iraqi sovereignty", - quotes TASS of his word.

    A statement by al-Abadi was in answer to the statement of the US authorities about the intention to send to Iraq special elite unit to combat the militants of the "Islamic state".
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    Post  Godric on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:35 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote: Any division of Syria, or Iraq for that matter would have to be agreed by the UN. China for a start is paranoid about such things making it a very difficult option. Autonomy within the current borders is perhaps a more likely option.


    Then what criminal organization KFOR is doing in Serbian province Kosovo? did Serbian govt or UNSC allowed this? nope

    Same with Syria all "peace and rule of law loving" countries like USA/UK/France or Germany somehow forgot to ask legitimate govt of Syria to bomb their land... In some cities in Syrians thest is less islamists then in London or Birmingham, not to mention Brussels  for example. isn´t it?


    Oh well yet another rule of law and respect of human rights manifestation "western style"

    Baghdad was angered about the US intention to send to Iraq special forces
    http://www.rg.ru/2015/12/02/irak-anons.html

    The Snp in Scotland was also against the bombing of Serbia/Yugoslavia and nato involvement in Bosnia ... statements by Alex Salmond the leader at the time of the Snp are littered around the web

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/307225.stm
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:36 pm

    Godric wrote: The Snp in Scotland was also against the bombing of Serbia/Yugoslavia and nato involvement in Bosnia ... statements by Alex Salmond the leader at the time of the Snp are littered around the web

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/307225.stm


    The problem is that in totalitarian West nobody really cares what people want...BTW was Scottish referendum rigged or not?




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    Post  Khepesh on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:45 pm

    Godric wrote:
    not the British Khepesh the English, The Welsh and the N Irish  at least 56 of the 59 Scottish MPs are voting against getting involved because we know that this is about appeasing the war mongering Yanks
    I had forgotten this from last year
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    Post  Godric on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:52 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Godric wrote: The Snp in Scotland was also against the bombing of Serbia/Yugoslavia and nato involvement in Bosnia ... statements by Alex Salmond the leader at the time of the Snp are littered around the web

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/307225.stm


    The problem is that in totalitarian West nobody really cares what people want...BTW was Scottish referendum rigged or not?




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    Don't we have a forum rule that gives users from parallel universes only reading privileges and prohibits them from posting?

    parallel universe? then close Einstein-Rosen Bridge Twisted Evil

    it doesn't matter now ... we will win the next referendum in 2 years time ... support for Independence is now way ahead of remaining in the UK and the no campaign has no figurehead capable of leading their campaign

    keep in in mind the SNP were making decisions like this in a climate where social media hadn't really started and the news only came from one source and from one side ... the side the government supported even then they didn't think it was creditable to bomb Serbia, Iraq etc .... the SNP believes in UN sanctioned involvement ... Russia is in Syria because the Syrian government asked Russia for their help .... they are the only foreign force that should be in Syria
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    Post  Khepesh on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:52 pm

    whir wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:Yeah, drama, but look what happens now, it all changes....
    It changes nothing, it's all about PR at this stage, euro politicians need to fight IS to look tough.
    Well yes Washington's puppets all want to please their master and look tough, but I think as the world changed in 1991, then it changed in 2014 and old paradigms are fast going. In terms of human behaviour over millenia nothing changes of course, but the nuances in that behaviour that changed with victory in 1945 to prevent another catastrophic war are breaking down due to Washington above all other countries cynically manipulating world events. The change is that the mask is fully off and a stand is being made against them, in Ukraine and now in Syria, and probably in the future elsewhere.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:59 pm

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    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote: I think "Neutrality" lives in a parallel universe.

    Don't we have a forum rule that gives users from parallel universes only reading privileges and prohibits them from posting?

    parallel universe? then close Einstein-Rosen Bridge Twisted Evil

    Off Topic Should I start a thread on AWHGM (antiwormhole guided missiles) for some of the forum members to start to contribute to?
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    Post  Godric on Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:05 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    Godric wrote:
    not the British Khepesh the English, The Welsh and the N Irish  at least 56 of the 59 Scottish MPs are voting against getting involved because we know that this is about appeasing the war mongering Yanks
    I had forgotten this from last year
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    Igor Strelkov looks fitting in a Kilt ... even though it is not a proper kilt .... the original was banned after the battle of Culloden 1746 and was re introduced in it's current form by rich land owners ... a proper Kilt is basically a big heavy woollen shawl in plaid design that covers the whole body ... they tried to wipe out our language they ethnically cleansed the Highlands of half the population of Scotland .... their is only 60-70,000 Gàidhlig speakers left nearly wiping out 1500-1600 years of our culture and history and replacing it with a fake "British History and Culture"

    Independence is the only way that we can save what is left of our culture ... and the exact same thing is happening in Syria with Isis/Turkey and USA destroying massive amounts of Syrian culture and sites of massive historical importance
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:38 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote: I think "Neutrality" lives in a parallel universe.

    Don't we have a forum rule that gives users from parallel universes only reading privileges and prohibits them from posting?

    parallel universe? then close Einstein-Rosen Bridge Twisted Evil

    Off Topic Should I start a thread on AWHGM (antiwormhole guided missiles) for some of the forum members to start to contribute to?

    Off Topic Oh no no, they came here by mistake. then enough to redirect their output home via bridge  or /dev/null in our universe Smile
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:45 pm

    Godric wrote:Igor Strelkov looks fitting in a Kilt ... even though it is not a proper kilt .... the original was banned after the battle of Culloden 1746 and was re introduced in it's current form by rich land owners ... a proper Kilt is basically a big heavy woollen shawl in plaid design that covers the whole body ... they tried to wipe out our language they ethnically cleansed the Highlands of half the population of Scotland .... their is only 60-70,000  Gàidhlig speakers left nearly wiping out 1500-1600 years of our culture and history and replacing it with a fake "British History and Culture"

    Independence is the only way that we can save what is left of our culture ... and the exact same thing is happening in Syria with Isis/Turkey and USA destroying massive amounts of Syrian culture and sites of massive historical importance

    Well ethnic cleansing seems to be favorite strategy advocates of rule of law and human rights. China (opium wars) USA (native population), Ireland, Scotland India... whenever they are pillage wars and fmaine. In short democracy Smile

    Recently read article about selling thousands of Irish as slaves to Caribbean in XVII after Cromwell.

    Syria will be divided Im afraid. Like Germany, Korea, China, Sudan, Ukraine Same script one evil master.
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    Post  whir on Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:53 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    whir wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:Yeah, drama, but look what happens now, it all changes....
    It changes nothing, it's all about PR at this stage, euro politicians need to fight IS to look tough.
    Well yes Washington's puppets all want to please their master and look tough, but I think as the world changed in 1991, then it changed in 2014 and old paradigms are fast going. In terms of human behaviour over millenia nothing changes of course, but the nuances in that behaviour that changed with victory in 1945 to prevent another catastrophic war are breaking down due to Washington above all other countries cynically manipulating world events. The change is that the mask is fully off and a stand is being made against them, in Ukraine and now in Syria, and probably in the future elsewhere.
    No politician in France, Spain, UK or Germany rushing to bomb Syria just to please the US; they have jumped on that tar pit because they have no alternative to their problems after blaming refugees and terrorist attacks to Syrian conflict.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:45 pm

    Well ethnic cleansing seems to be favorite strategy advocates of rule of law and human rights. China (opium wars) USA (native population), Ireland, Scotland India... whenever they are pillage wars and fmaine. In short democracy Smile

    Recently read article about selling thousands of Irish as slaves to Caribbean in XVII after Cromwell.
    But rule of law did exist with regards to relations of Englishmen with other Englishmen - and for me that's enough proof that the rule of law did in fact exist in Britain.

    Is it really so absolutely necessary for the rule of law to apply for all people at all times? In Ottoman Empire nobody gave a damn about rights of Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks and it did not affect economic development of Turkey very much.
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    Post  Dima on Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:16 pm

    Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 42 min

    #SAA carried out a special operation which led to the liberation of 6 soldiers from a JN prison in Daraa

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    iad tawil ‏@IadArtwork 20h20 hours ago

    We will never forget this hero
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    This lad from Latakia or Tartous named Yahya was killed earlier by terrorists at Al Raqqa, his sister works with red Crescent...was featured in the documentary by PBS in their Frontline series, "Inside Assad's Syria". The documentary as such is by a typical biased western assole whose only aim was to slowly poison the viewers.
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    Post  Dima on Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:48 pm

    Few updates from pro-terrorist/terrorists twitter updates...  VKS is doing good by taking on the A-team first, B-team can wait... Very Happy

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    #Russia bombed FSA with 100+ airstrikes in N-Aleppo the past weeks- but not a single bomb hit the IslamicState
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    ^^^ notice the SAA pocket at the bottom left.


    Map of North Aleppo country side  3 h
    Russia+ISIL+Kurds+Bashaar: All in one trench against FSA and Ahrar alSham.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:58 pm

    Everyone loves a good gang bang from time to time...except the whore of course.
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    Post  Neutrality on Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:02 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

    I think "Neutrality" lives in a parallel universe.

    Don't we have a forum rule that gives users from parallel universes only reading privileges and prohibits them from posting?

    If you don't agree with me then you try to refute what I say or maybe you should report my replies in case you find them offensive so that a moderator with more maturity can look at it.

    At least I'm not pushing for an escalation in Europe nor do I talk about nuking cities. People who bring this up as an option are lunatics.
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    Post  Dima on Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:11 pm

    Nice snap thumbsup
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    Reporters Roman & Dmitriy w/ Gen. Issam Zahreddine in #Deir_EzZor.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:18 pm

    "No boots on the ground" strikes again/


    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/672086472305090560

    Looks like the guys aren't exactly shy.
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    Post  zorobabel on Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:26 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:"No boots on the ground" strikes again/


    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/672086472305090560

    Looks like the guys aren't exactly shy.
    Very good.
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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:20 pm

    US carrier slowly making its way towards the eastern Med. From Interfax

    Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatseniuk will visit the U.S. nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman at the invitation of the commander of the U.S. 6th Fleet and the U.S. Naval Forces Europe commander on Thursday. The aircraft carrier will make a stopover at the NATO base Sigonella off the Italian coast in the Mediterranean Sea, the press service of the Ukrainian government secretariat said.

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