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    Il-106 Heavy military transport: News

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:36 am

    At the time the plan was to replace the 40 ton payload standard Il-76 with the 47 ton payload An-70..
    To clarify:
    The first modifications of the IL-76 had a take-off weight of 170 tons, a payload of 28 tons and a range with a maximum load of 4,200 km. In the course of modernization, the take-off weight increased to 190 tons, carrying capacity up to 43 tons, and the range with this load reached 4,000 km. ..
    Characteristics of the IL-76 allowed to work on the establishment of aviation world records. In July 1975, the crew of the Honored Test Pilot of the USSR Hero of the Soviet Union Ya.I. Bernikov in the flight with a weight of 70 121 kg reached an altitude of 11 875 m. On a closed route, M. Tyuryumin showed a record average flight speed of 857.657 km / h with a load of 70 tons at a range of 1,000 km and with a load of 70 t at a distance of 2,000 km reached a record average speed of 856.697 km / h A few days later, the crew of A. M. Tyuryumin in flight with a load of 40 tons on a closed route of 5,000 km reached a record average flight speed of 815,968 km / h.

    http://www.airwar.ru/enc/craft/il76.html

    ..the IL-76M version virtually resembles the IL-76 basic aircraft, but has a maximum payload of 47t, compared to 28t for the IL-76.
    https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/il76/

    The Il-76MD is an Improved military transport version, (modifitseerovannyy Dahl'ny – modified, long-range).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-76#Military_variants

    The ADS installed onboard the IL-76MD-90A facilitates dropping of parachutists from an altitude of 8,000m at 220km/h to 400km/h speeds
    https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ilyushin-il-76md-90a-il-476-aircraft-russia/

    Russia decided to use IL-76s for those missions, so absence of the AN-70 didn't compromise anything, at least for now, IMO.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:30 pm

    I was thinking, probably the new Il-106 will have a double deck layout, like the An-124 and the boeing 747, with cockpit, relief crew compartment and troop cabin in the upper deck, and cargo hold in the lower deck.

    Maybe a derived big civilian passenger aircraft, similar to a modernised b747 can be realized, with most parts in common with the military cargo.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:56 pm

    Could be, the Il-76 was originally planned to be a passenger-cargo plane.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:07 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Could be, the Il-76 was originally planned to be a passenger-cargo plane.

    China could also be interested in it, and the production of the A380 will stop after 2021.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:58 pm

    They'll produce An-225 under license & could make a smaller jumbo variant of it with 4 engines.
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/china-build-the-worlds-largest-plane%E2%80%8A%E2%80%94%E2%80%8A-ukraines-help-17583
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:19 am

    The idea of a combined passenger and cargo plane is interesting but not as useful as it sounds.

    If you need a cargo plane you need a cargo plane... it would be quicker and easier to use cargo planes and normal passenger planes to transfer hardware and personnel large distances... the exception is transporting paratroopers in which case you can just use more cargo planes.

    A large cargo plane is shaped for carrying bulky outsized cargo, not for very long range high subsonic cruise like a passenger plane.

    An An-124 might sound like a great B747 replacement but in actual fact its aerodynamic shape wont be ideal and it will be slower and less efficient than an upgraded Il-96 or something similar.

    It makes more sense to custom make a large long range passenger aircraft...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:20 am

    True, I wasn't clear enough: they planned to have a passenger variant of Il-76 as well. But unifying both concepts didn't work well for those same reasons. They also planned An-22 passenger version but abandoned that idea. A case in point: the An-10 wasn't safe & successful but the AN-12 was, & is still flying.
    An-124 could be made into a jumbo jet if its economic feasibility isn't an issue for China, for domestic use.
    OTH, proposed A-380F variant had a payload capacity of 150,000kg with a range of 10,410km. The upper deck, which has a maximum width of 5.92m, accommodates 17 pallets, while the main deck, maximum width 6.58m, holds 28 pallets and the lower deck 13 pallets. The total hold volume is 1,134m³. “The range of the A380-800F is 10,410km, which allows the aircraft to fly non-stop from Europe to Asia or the US West Coast.”
    https://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/airbus_a380/

    But the concept didn't have any takers.
    An A380-F would be too fat to fly at a profit: The plane would hit the maximum payload (a constraint of weight) before its maximum cubic space (a constraint of volume). Its design can’t support the maximum payload required to generate a profit.
    https://www.flexport.com/blog/airbus-a380-no-cargo-equivalent
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelgoldstein/2018/02/07/ups-order-for-14-boeing-747-freighters-might-once-have-been-for-airbus-a380/#17683cf1433e
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:05 am

    Past passenger & jumbo projects based on smaller planes & cargo transports:
    http://www.frequentflyers.ru/2019/03/15/su_ne_bylo_4/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

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