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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  George1 on Mon 11 Aug 2014, 01:44

    "Khabarovsk" project 09851
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  George1 on Sat 13 Dec 2014, 03:13

    special purpose submarine Khabarovsk. It will be the first production vehicle of a new weapon system, which was worked out on the submarine pr.20120 "Sarov"

    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-812.html
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    Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Kyo on Mon 12 Jan 2015, 17:50

    Anyone heard of this? It's supposed to be top-secret.

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150112/1016805883.html
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Kyo on Mon 12 Jan 2015, 18:13

    Russian Wiki says the following (Google translator):

    AS-12, also known as "Losharik" - Russian deep nuclear submarine (the official Russian naval classification - deep nuclear station), not carrying weapons and can dive to depths of up to 1000 [3] , and according to some sources even before 6000 meters [4] . Can be used for special operations of various kinds, according to unconfirmed reports, can dive to a depth of six kilometers and is equipped with various equipment for underwater work [5]
    Nuclear Power Plant Project 10831 [1] , serial number 01210 [citation 1,057 days] , some sources indicate the side number [6] or project number 210 [2] was developed by designers Bureau "Malachite" in the 1980s . The chief designer of the project - General Designer of deep-technical means, the Hero of Russia Yu M. Konovalov . Project 10831 was a further development of nuclear stations deepwater projects in 1910 "Sperm Whale" and 1851 "Halibut" . [3] The construction of the submarine was carried out in 1988, and in the 1990s due to lack of funding and the rejection of the concept of operations for special purposes, it was conserved and early 2000s was continued.

    Design and construction of the submarine was carried out under conditions of high secrecy . The number of people employed in the process of construction workers and engineers submarines rigidly regulated in the course of 15 years, who had gone to her building [7] [8] .

    The submarine, which was given the tactical number AS-12, 13 August 2003 [3], [4] was derived from the slipway shop number 42 factory "Sevmash" . At the ceremony O submarine from the slipway attended Navy Commander Vladimir Kuroyedov and representatives of CB "Malachite" . Three days later, was promoted to the descent of the submarine water [7] [8] .

    At the end of September 2012 the submarine participated in a research expedition "Arctic-2012", during which collect soil and rock samples at a depth of 2.5-3 km for 20 days. [9] [10]

    In January 2015, the Russian edition of " Top Gear "published the first picture quality AC-12. The submarine was accidentally sfotografirovanna car during a photo shoot on the shores of the White Sea [11] .

    Robust housing PL - polisferichesky , that is assembled from several spherical compartments (implemented the principle bathysphere ) made ​​of titanium and located inside the elongated body light "classical" form. Due to this, the rugged to withstand the water pressure at great depth.

    According to experts, "Sevmash" appearance "Losharika" nothing can be said about this project embodied in the submarine capabilities [7] . According to open sources, the power plant is a small submarine nuclear reactor . The presence of weapons in the base of the submarine project information is not available.

    Carrier "Losharika" is a special-purpose submarines BS-136 "Orenburg" [1] project 09786.

    The name of the boat was on the cartoon character - horse of the balls.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Kyo on Mon 12 Jan 2015, 21:57

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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue 13 Jan 2015, 04:27

    Thing i want to ask is of course.. How they can be sure if it's Losharik ?

    In my view that sub above is kinda similar of earlier Kashalot.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  George1 on Tue 24 Feb 2015, 02:31

    Here're some of the things you can learn from this badge about the new oh-so-secret Khabarovsk submarine, provided it's not a bit of disinformation coming from the First Department.

    1. Khabarovsk has a pump-jet
    2. Khabarovsk is designed by TsKB Rubin (that logo in top left)

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    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue 24 Feb 2015, 02:47

    George1 wrote:Here're some of the things you can learn from this badge about the new oh-so-secret Khabarovsk submarine, provided it's not a bit of disinformation coming from the First Department.

    1. Khabarovsk has a pump-jet
    2. Khabarovsk is designed by TsKB Rubin (that logo in top left)


    then it would have that..short "box" bridge-fin typical of all Rubin made submarine.

    Honestly i like Malakhit "Sedan" type bridgefin to be honest.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  zg18 on Tue 11 Aug 2015, 23:52

    BS-64 "Podmoskovye" launched today at Zvezdochka

    http://rusnavy.com/nowadays/strength/submarines/bs-64/index.php?print=Y



    It has been converted as a mother ship for deep sea operations.



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    BS-64 "Podmoskovye" launched today at Zvezdochka

    Post  artjomh on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 00:14

    Didn't think BS-64 would ever make it. Glad to be proven wrong.

    The model on top is a modified Delta III, btw

    Here are two easy ways to tell Delta III and Delta IV apart:

    1) D3 has elongated ellipsoid bow. D4 bow is more rounded

    2) D3 has square flooding vents, D4 has "slit" vents.

    Those are the two really obvious ones.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue 27 Oct 2015, 03:05

    In Sep this year, the NYT quoted USN officials about 'suspicious' activities of Russian ships and subs around underwater fibre optic cables that are crucial for internet traffic between Europe and the US and China & Japan and US. Apparently at best, they are worried they are planting bugs and sensors on the cables and at worst, that they could cut the cables in times of a crisis....they're also worried about sensors being placed on the SOSUS underwater cables designed to monitor the movements of Russian subs

    The Russians deny the accusations, but various military commentators are saying those sort of activities were going on during the cold war and haven't really ceased since then....one of the vessels mentioned as specifically tasked with such a role is the Losharic sub



    Arrow http://warfiles.ru/show-98487-rossiyskie-loshariki-napugali-ssha.html
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    Special purpose nuclear submarines

    Post  artjomh on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 21:34



    A sad day for OPSEC on Russian TV today...

    Anyway, for those who don't recognize the silhouettes: top left is Belgorod (project 09852, a rebuilt Oscar II class SSGN), top right is Khabarovsk (project 09851), bottom center is Sarov (project 20120)

    Middle center: Skif, a rocket/torpedo/who-the-fuck-knows-what-it-is, that has been tested on Sarov and will be deployed on Begorod and Khabarovsk.

    That is all for now.


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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 22:23

    artjomh wrote:

    A sad day for OPSEC on Russian TV today...

    Anyway, for those who don't recognize the silhouettes: top right is Belgorod (project 09852, a rebuilt Oscar II class SSGN), top left is Khabarovsk (project 09851), bottom center is Sarov (project 20120)

    Middle center: Skif, a rocket/torpedo/who-the-fuck-knows-what-it-is, that has been tested on Sarov and will be deployed on Begorod and Khabarovsk.

    That is all for now.

    Actually, it seems to me that the Russian "OPSEC" successfully scores again. Most probably, that's not a real depiction of the Sarov-affiliated Skif.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  artjomh on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 23:18

    Revealing the fact that Khabarovsk has a pump jet is relevant information in of itself, tbh.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  George1 on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 23:23

    Ι think these submarines' role is R & D for new weapons, just this


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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 23:26

    artjomh wrote:Revealing the fact that Khabarovsk has a pump jet is relevant information in of itself, tbh.

    True if true.


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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  JohninMK on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 23:27

    artjomh wrote:Revealing the fact that Khabarovsk has a pump jet is relevant information in of itself, tbh.
    Quite possibly the data is only released when they are aware that the 'other side' already knows something about the subject. That is the point that more details, sorry disinformation, can be published.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  artjomh on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 23:44



    Better resolution. Nice stats on that drone torpedo.

    100 knots speed up to 10000 km.... Twice as fast as a typical torpedo.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 23:59

    artjomh wrote:

    Better resolution. Nice stats on that drone torpedo.

    100 knots speed up to 10000 km.... Twice as fast as a typical torpedo.

    Thank you, Artjomh.

    Does it say it can be deployed to a depth of 1000 m?

    It also mentions the caliber, doesn't it? Is it 1.1 m? I can't really discern it.

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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  JohninMK on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 00:51

    artjomh wrote:

    Better resolution. Nice stats on that drone torpedo.

    100 knots speed up to 10000 km.... Twice as fast as a typical torpedo.
    So, fire one under the Artic ice cap and four days later it homes onto a target in say Norfolk, Virginia. Amazing in wartime, probably about the ultimate fire and forget weapon.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  zg18 on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 14:58

    JohninMK wrote:
    artjomh wrote:Revealing the fact that Khabarovsk has a pump jet is relevant information in of itself, tbh.
    Quite possibly the data is only released when they are aware that the 'other side' already knows something about the subject. That is the point that more details, sorry disinformation, can be published.

    Yes , US knows something:

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-building-nuclear-armed-drone-submarine/

    This from 2 months ago.

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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  zg18 on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 15:01

    JohninMK wrote:
    artjomh wrote:

    Better resolution. Nice stats on that drone torpedo.

    100 knots speed up to 10000 km.... Twice as fast as a typical torpedo.
    So, fire one under the Artic ice cap and four days later it homes onto a target in say Norfolk, Virginia. Amazing in wartime, probably about the ultimate fire and forget weapon.

    "Ocean Multipurpose System" status-6

    Application: loss of important economic facilities of the enemy in the vicinity of the coast and causing assured unacceptable damage to the country through the establishment of zones of extensive radioactive contamination, unsuitable for implementation in these areas of military, economic, business or other activity for a long time."

    English translation.

    No wonder US is upset.
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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 18:42

    zg18 wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    artjomh wrote:

    Better resolution. Nice stats on that drone torpedo.

    100 knots speed up to 10000 km.... Twice as fast as a typical torpedo.
    So, fire one under the Artic ice cap and four days later it homes onto a target in say Norfolk, Virginia. Amazing in wartime, probably about the ultimate fire and forget weapon.

    "Ocean Multipurpose System" status-6

    Application: loss of important economic facilities of the enemy in the vicinity of the coast and causing assured unacceptable damage to the country through the establishment of zones of extensive radioactive contamination, unsuitable for implementation in these areas of military, economic, business or other activity for a long time."

    English translation.

    No wonder US is upset.

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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 18:57

    JohninMK wrote:
    artjomh wrote:

    Better resolution. Nice stats on that drone torpedo.

    100 knots speed up to 10000 km.... Twice as fast as a typical torpedo.
    So, fire one under the Artic ice cap and four days later it homes onto a target in say Norfolk, Virginia. Amazing in wartime, probably about the ultimate fire and forget weapon.

    I did some calculations, it can reach it's max range in 2.25 days....looks like the U.S. based Neocons bit off more than they can chew. By wrecking all US/Russia relations, the Neocons have forced the Russian's to develop whole new concepts and strategy of Hybrid/Asymmetrical Warfare, such as this cruise missile equivalent of a torpedo, or cruise torpedo perhaps.

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    Re: Special Purpose Nuclear Submarines

    Post  JohninMK on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 20:05

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    artjomh wrote:

    Better resolution. Nice stats on that drone torpedo.

    100 knots speed up to 10000 km.... Twice as fast as a typical torpedo.
    So, fire one under the Artic ice cap and four days later it homes onto a target in say Norfolk, Virginia. Amazing in wartime, probably about the ultimate fire and forget weapon.

    I did some calculations, it can reach it's max range in 2.25 days....looks like the U.S. based Neocons bit off more than they can chew. By wrecking all US/Russia relations, the Neocons have forced the Russian's to develop whole new concepts and strategy of Hybrid/Asymmetrical Warfare, such as this cruise missile equivalent of a torpedo, or cruise torpedo perhaps.
    Its one hell of a tactical, say around 200 miles, as well as strategic weapon, exactly as you say, an underwater cruise missile. Guidance will be an interesting challenge, perhaps it pops up to the surface every few hours for location and target data. Even if it was just loitering passively on the surface, searching for them would a classic needle in a haystack job.

    Was there any indication of diameter in the info?

    Could probably be launched from many ships,military or civil, perhaps by crane or helicopter, as oppose to just pushing it over the side.

    They should call it the SubSeaKalibr

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