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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:20 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    But I think there are many other ways that Russia can help Serbia other than vetoing this resolution.

    For starters, trying to lobby for recognition of others crimes against Serbs, and coming up with its own resolutions.
    And also trying to move the ex-Yugoslav region towards reconcilliation;

    Russia burning bridges with other Balkan nations would not help anything

    -Don't really see how

    -Any resolution by Russia will be automatically vetoed by USA & Co

    -I don't think that there are any bridges there to begin with (in other former YU republics that is....)


    Think of it this way:

    Serbia refused to impose sanctions on Russia. This would just be Russia returning the favour.

    Like I said, I can see your logic - I just don't think your line of thinking would lead to any good results. Serbian diplomacy has really suffered if the best they can think of is fuming in the corner against the 'victors' (i.e. everyone else in the Balkans), backed up by its only friend - Russia, and snapping its jaws at every piece of bait that the Brits throw against it.

    They have you exactly where they want you; angry, cornered and willing to get into yet another row with your neighbours.

    Serbia needs to break its isolation in the Balkans. Go for the Judo approach - add to the energy of the blow that an opponent throws against you - and turn it against them.

    Instead of vetoing a resolution; a smarter idea would be to try and amend it, or propose a suite of resolutions addressing everyone's greviences.
    Even accepting the resolution as it is, would actually be a better move than outright vetoing it.

    Nobody is fuming or anything, we're actually pretty cool overall and our diplomacy is quite good lately.

    And we did try to amend the resolution, both by ourselves and with help of Russia. Got shafted both times. So if a freakin' Russia can't amend resolution what chance do we have of getting anything done in that environment?

    And we're not snapping at the bait. You think Brits came up with that resolution for humanitarian reasons? It was not Brit idea and it is not about humanitarianism. It is just the setup for what comes next. Like I said, it's a process.

    If anyone is PO'd it would be''victors'' because they no longer have the spotlight and are now stuck wallowing in their own excrement without anyone to bail them out.
    What is left for them to do? Blame Serbs for their problems, as usual.

    Did you miss Bosnian constant political and economic fiasco or exodus of asylum seekers from Kosovo? And that was just this year alone... hell, this trimester alone...
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  zepia on Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:11 pm

    Russia Vetoes UNSC Resolution on Srebrenica Massacre

    Russia vetoed a draft resolution in the UN Security Council on Wednesday that condemns the 1995 killings in the Bosnian town of Srebrenica as genocide.

    War veterans from the Balkan war of the 1990's stand near a memorial at the memorial center Potocari, near Srebrenica, 150 kms northeast of Sarajevo, Bosnia

    Ten of the Security Council's 15 members voted in favor of the document, while four, including China, abstained.

    The current UNSC draft resolution on Srebrenica is the sixth version of the British resolution on Srebrenica, with the first one submitted in June. The resolution refers to the events in Srebrenica as genocide, and states that a denial of the massacre as a genocide is hindering reconciliation.

    Earlier in June, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the British draft resolution is written in the anti-Serb tone and incorrectly interprets, from a legal point of view, what happened in Srebrenica.

    In July 1995, according to UN estimates, over 8,000 Muslim men and boys were killed in the Bosnian city of Srebrenica after the city had been taken by units of the Army of Republika Srpska.

    International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) and the International Court of Justice have classified the massacre in Srebrenica as genocide. Serbia and the Bosnian Serbs do not deny the crime, but do not refer to them as genocide.

    On Sunday, the presidents of both the Republika Srpska, Bosnia and Herzegovina, as well as Serbia asked Russia to veto the adoption of the resolution in the UN Security Council.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150708/1024374977.html#ixzz3fJSwp8lu
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:05 pm

    Russia Vetoes UNSC Resolution on Srebrenica Massacre

    I don't want to sound triumphant but I'm glad they did this....anyway, sounds like they had no choice
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:47 am

    In the same time that Serbs were licking Merkel's butt and praying to be accepted in EU.
    It's about time to have a serious leader once again, to stop licking the bloody West, regroup, get back their pride,
    and yeah give to those Sunni Albanians a good lesson.
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:20 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:In the same time that Serbs were licking Merkel's butt and praying to be accepted in EU.
    It's about time to have a serious leader once again, to stop licking the bloody West, regroup, get back their pride,
    and yeah give to those Sunni Albanians a good lesson.

    Last time we had "serious leader" (  lol1  ) we ended on the brink of extinction (and most likely over it, time will tell but I wouldn't hold my breath)

    Butts are licked as a survival method unless you have better approach for a country that is completely isolated and surrounded by enemies on all sides.

    Regrouping usually involves licking some butts... then comes rest of the stuff you mentioned.

    Also, as our neighbors have shown us, pride is waaaaaaay overrated...
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:56 pm

    UN resolution on Srebrenica designed to justify NATO bombings, to discredit Republika Srpska

    http://tass.ru/en/opinions/807496

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    MOSCOW, July 9. /TASS/. Russia’s decision to veto the UN Security Council’s resolution on the 20th anniversary of tragic events in the Moslem enclave of Srebrenica is called upon to prevent a possible destabilization in Bosnia and Herzegovina and in the Balkans on the whole, a senior Russian expert on Slavonic studies told TASS on Thursday.

    In addition to this, the resolution drafted by Britain was rather biased and spotlighted just one party to the ethnic conflict in the former Yugoslavia or, to be more precise, the Serbs, Dr. Yelena Guskova, the director of the Center for Contemporary Balkan Crisis Studies at the Moscow-based Institute for Slavonic Studies told TASS.

    The UN Security Council failed to endorse the draft resolution on Srebrenica on Wednesday, as Russia, which is one of the council’s five permanent members, imposed a veto on it. The document qualified the death of about 8,000 male Bosnian Moslems in Srebrenica in July 1995 as genocide.

    Russia’s ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin said in this connection Russia was calling for an all-embracing investigation of criminal offences committed by members of all the ethnic communities during the civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. He called into question the striving by a number of Western countries to pass Bosnian Moslems off as the main victims of the wars that rocked Yugoslavia from 1992 through 2001.

    "The Serbs suffered no less than others in that conflict and that’s why the international community has a fundamental task of attaining full reconciliation and bringing the situation in Bosnia back to normal," Churkin said.

    All in all, the Bosnian civil war of 1992 to 1995 carried away the lives of almost 100,000 people - Moslems, Serbs and Croats.

    Dr. Guskova recalled in this connection that internal law defines as genocide the actions aimed at a premeditated extermination of a nationality, as well as a racial, religious or any other historically formed cultural/ethnic group.

    "No doubt the army of Bosnia’s Serb Republic didn’t have any objective of this sort," she said. "Srebrenica isn’t Babiy Yar in Ukraine where the Nazi occupiers annihilated Jews, Romani and Soviet prisoners of war in 1941."

    "Quite possibly, a war crime was committed in Srebrenica but the fact is yet to be proven," Dr. Guskova said.

    "In 1995, Moslem militants made amassed sorties to the Serb-populated villages in the vicinity of Srebrenica and dozens of thousands of peaceful civilians were killed," she went on. "A memorial to these victims (of the Bosnian war - TASS) is located near the enclave, along with the memorial to the Moslems who fell then."

    "When Ratko Mladic, a former chief of staff of Republika Srpska’s army introduced his forces to Srebrenica, he evacuated all the women and children from the town and forwarded an organized column of Moslem soldiers to the city of Tuzla, also in Bosnia," Dr. Guskova recalled. "While the column was on the move, an exchange of fire between the sides erupted. Neither the number of those killed nor the place of their death is known precisely to this day and the lists of the victims haven’t been compiled since then."

    She did not rule out that the Moslem side had conscientiously overstated the number of victims in order to get the West’s interference in the Bosnian conflict.

    "Nonetheless, the International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague stated in 2004 that the events in Srebrenica had been an act of genocide, even though it didn’t have weighty facts to prove the claim," Dr. Guskova said adding that if the Security Council had endorsed the resolution on Wednesday, there would have been no opportunity then to call the ‘genocide’ qualification into question.

    "This would have also ruled out any studies of or research into the events of twenty years ago," she said.

    Dr. Guskova believes that the British resolution was on the whole aimed to discredit Republika Srpska within Bosnia and to lay the groundwork for its elimination in the future.

    "The resolution made it possible to blame one ethnic group as a culprit of all the wars that occurred in the Balkans in the 1990’s and hence to justify NATO’s UN Security Council session actions of 1999 when the pact claimed it was pounding with bombs the guilty ones," she said.

    "The West is considering Bosnia’s Serb Republic as a Slavic element of the Balkans that is clinging to Russia," Dr. Guskova said in a summary. "This element is to be split or, much better, destroyed as a political factor, and the resolution would have made it possible to raise a possibility of a revision of the Dayton peace accords on Bosnia and Herzegovina, which in turn might entail elimination of the Serb Republic within it and the eventual hammering together of a monolith Bosnia and Herzegovina - something that Washington was dreaming of back in 1995."

    "Russia acted as an independent factor of unbiased treatment in international relations and this means really much for Slavic peoples in the Balkans," the expert said.

    http://tass.ru/en/opinions/807496
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:17 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Hannibal Barca wrote:In the same time that Serbs were licking Merkel's butt and praying to be accepted in EU.
    It's about time to have a serious leader once again, to stop licking the bloody West, regroup, get back their pride,
    and yeah give to those Sunni Albanians a good lesson.

    Last time we had "serious leader" (  lol1  ) we ended on the brink of extinction (and most likely over it, time will tell but I wouldn't hold my breath)

    Butts are licked as a survival method unless you have better approach for a country that is completely isolated and surrounded by enemies on all sides.

    Regrouping usually involves licking some butts... then comes rest of the stuff you mentioned.

    Also, as our neighbors have shown us, pride is waaaaaaay overrated...


    I hope you know what you are doing (plural) but my gut feeling is that you don't.
    Two thirds of the Serbians want to live the american dream, to enter EU, to accept their fates this doesn't sound like regrouping to me, I wish I am wrong
    but Serbians still have much smaller fertility rates than the albanians and abortions skyrocket, these are not good signs.
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:41 am

    PapaDragon wrote:UN resolution on Srebrenica designed to justify NATO bombings, to discredit Republika Srpska

    http://tass.ru/en/opinions/807496

    Author
    Tamara Zamyatina


    MOSCOW, July 9. /TASS/. Russia’s decision to veto the UN Security Council’s resolution on the 20th anniversary of tragic events in the Moslem enclave of Srebrenica is called upon to prevent a possible destabilization in Bosnia and Herzegovina and in the Balkans on the whole, a senior Russian expert on Slavonic studies told TASS on Thursday.

    In addition to this, the resolution drafted by Britain was rather biased and spotlighted just one party to the ethnic conflict in the former Yugoslavia or, to be more precise, the Serbs, Dr. Yelena Guskova, the director of the Center for Contemporary Balkan Crisis Studies at the Moscow-based Institute for Slavonic Studies told TASS.

    The UN Security Council failed to endorse the draft resolution on Srebrenica on Wednesday, as Russia, which is one of the council’s five permanent members, imposed a veto on it. The document qualified the death of about 8,000 male Bosnian Moslems in Srebrenica in July 1995 as genocide.

    Russia’s ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin said in this connection Russia was calling for an all-embracing investigation of criminal offences committed by members of all the ethnic communities during the civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. He called into question the striving by a number of Western countries to pass Bosnian Moslems off as the main victims of the wars that rocked Yugoslavia from 1992 through 2001.

    "The Serbs suffered no less than others in that conflict and that’s why the international community has a fundamental task of attaining full reconciliation and bringing the situation in Bosnia back to normal," Churkin said.

    All in all, the Bosnian civil war of 1992 to 1995 carried away the lives of almost 100,000 people - Moslems, Serbs and Croats.

    Dr. Guskova recalled in this connection that internal law defines as genocide the actions aimed at a premeditated extermination of a nationality, as well as a racial, religious or any other historically formed cultural/ethnic group.

    "No doubt the army of Bosnia’s Serb Republic didn’t have any objective of this sort," she said. "Srebrenica isn’t Babiy Yar in Ukraine where the Nazi occupiers annihilated Jews, Romani and Soviet prisoners of war in 1941."

    "Quite possibly, a war crime was committed in Srebrenica but the fact is yet to be proven," Dr. Guskova said.

    "In 1995, Moslem militants made amassed sorties to the Serb-populated villages in the vicinity of Srebrenica and dozens of thousands of peaceful civilians were killed," she went on. "A memorial to these victims (of the Bosnian war - TASS) is located near the enclave, along with the memorial to the Moslems who fell then."

    "When Ratko Mladic, a former chief of staff of Republika Srpska’s army introduced his forces to Srebrenica, he evacuated all the women and children from the town and forwarded an organized column of Moslem soldiers to the city of Tuzla, also in Bosnia," Dr. Guskova recalled. "While the column was on the move, an exchange of fire between the sides erupted. Neither the number of those killed nor the place of their death is known precisely to this day and the lists of the victims haven’t been compiled since then."

    She did not rule out that the Moslem side had conscientiously overstated the number of victims in order to get the West’s interference in the Bosnian conflict.

    "Nonetheless, the International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague stated in 2004 that the events in Srebrenica had been an act of genocide, even though it didn’t have weighty facts to prove the claim," Dr. Guskova said adding that if the Security Council had endorsed the resolution on Wednesday, there would have been no opportunity then to call the ‘genocide’ qualification into question.

    "This would have also ruled out any studies of or research into the events of twenty years ago," she said.

    Dr. Guskova believes that the British resolution was on the whole aimed to discredit Republika Srpska within Bosnia and to lay the groundwork for its elimination in the future.

    "The resolution made it possible to blame one ethnic group as a culprit of all the wars that occurred in the Balkans in the 1990’s and hence to justify NATO’s UN Security Council session actions of 1999 when the pact claimed it was pounding with bombs the guilty ones," she said.

    "The West is considering Bosnia’s Serb Republic as a Slavic element of the Balkans that is clinging to Russia," Dr. Guskova said in a summary. "This element is to be split or, much better, destroyed as a political factor, and the resolution would have made it possible to raise a possibility of a revision of the Dayton peace accords on Bosnia and Herzegovina, which in turn might entail elimination of the Serb Republic within it and the eventual hammering together of a monolith Bosnia and Herzegovina - something that Washington was dreaming of back in 1995."

    "Russia acted as an independent factor of unbiased treatment in international relations and this means really much for Slavic peoples in the Balkans," the expert said.

    http://tass.ru/en/opinions/807496

    It's a shame that Russia has decided to stick its nose in; I can understand everything but things like this won't help - the memory of events such as Srebrenica are becoming key issues for dirty political games.
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:49 am

    Hannibal Barca wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Hannibal Barca wrote:In the same time that Serbs were licking Merkel's butt and praying to be accepted in EU.
    It's about time to have a serious leader once again, to stop licking the bloody West, regroup, get back their pride,
    and yeah give to those Sunni Albanians a good lesson.

    Last time we had "serious leader" (  lol1  ) we ended on the brink of extinction (and most likely over it, time will tell but I wouldn't hold my breath)

    Butts are licked as a survival method unless you have better approach for a country that is completely isolated and surrounded by enemies on all sides.

    Regrouping usually involves licking some butts... then comes rest of the stuff you mentioned.

    Also, as our neighbors have shown us, pride is waaaaaaay overrated...


    I hope you know what you are doing (plural) but my gut feeling is that you don't.
    Two thirds of the Serbians want to live the american dream, to enter EU, to accept their fates this doesn't sound like regrouping to me, I wish I am wrong
    but Serbians still have much smaller fertility rates than the albanians and abortions skyrocket, these are not good signs.

    I hate quoting myself.... pirat

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t2600p15-serbias-relations-with-eu-and-nato#104774


    This is a survey from April 2015:

    http://www.nspm.rs/istrazivanja-javnog-mnjenja/srbija-april-2015-istrazivanje-javnog-mnjenja.html



    Currently 80.6 % of Serbs are against NATO membership, while only 8,4% of Serbs are for joining NATO.

    On the other side, 61.1% favor an alliance with Russia, while 18,4% of Serbian respondents oppose it.



    As for fertility and abortions, it is pretty much region average, in fact, entire continent is pretty much screwed in that department (with some exeptions) so don't fret over someone else's problems...
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:45 am

    Serbia won't be able to join the EU without embracing NATO.
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:01 pm

    It's a shame that Russia has decided to stick its nose in; I can understand everything but things like this won't help - the memory of events such as Srebrenica are becoming key issues for dirty political games.

    As a citizen of the world and in particular a person from a very small country thousands of kms from anything important... here in New Zealand, I am glad that Russia is prepared to stick their nose in when the west tries to rubber stamp stuff and make their own vision the vision set in stone on official international sounding documents.

    If Kosovo can have its own country why does bosnia have to remain three separate states united?

    And don't give me that moronic "Kosovo is a unique case" bullshit... every case is unique (and how dumb is "Not so Bright" Allbright for not realising this..). do you think her speech writers were laughing at her when they read that speech?
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:10 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    It's a shame that Russia has decided to stick its nose in; I can understand everything but things like this won't help - the memory of events such as Srebrenica are becoming key issues for dirty political games.

    As a citizen of the world and in particular a person from a very small country thousands of kms from anything important... here in New Zealand, I am glad that Russia is prepared to stick their nose in when the west tries to rubber stamp stuff and make their own vision the vision set in stone on official international sounding documents.

    If Kosovo can have its own country why does bosnia have to remain three separate states united?

    I think despite all the dark history there, every people should be able to decide whether to remain in Bosnia or not - there is no other way forward.
    Right now it's a country whose sovereignty is only nominal and whose central government has no power. It's effectively run and only held together by the EU. I'm hoping it can heal itself but perhaps it's better if everyone just decides to go their own way.
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:09 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    It's a shame that Russia has decided to stick its nose in; I can understand everything but things like this won't help - the memory of events such as Srebrenica are becoming key issues for dirty political games.

    As a citizen of the world and in particular a person from a very small country thousands of kms from anything important... here in New Zealand, I am glad that Russia is prepared to stick their nose in when the west tries to rubber stamp stuff and make their own vision the vision set in stone on official international sounding documents.

    If Kosovo can have its own country why does bosnia have to remain three separate states united?

    I think despite all the dark history there, every people should be able to decide whether to remain in Bosnia or not - there is no other way forward.
    Right now it's a country whose sovereignty is only nominal and whose central government has no power. It's effectively run and only held together by the EU. I'm hoping it can heal itself but perhaps it's better if everyone just decides to go their own way.

    People SHOULD be able to decide whether to remain in Bosnia or not, but they are NOT ALLOWED TO.

    Right now Bosnia is not a country, just like it never was and never will be. It is artificial construct built with the sole purpose of erasing entire ethnic group from existence.

    Entire slaughter occurred because communists wanted to force two groups to coexist against their wishes and choice, to reward and appease one group for their crimes in previous conflict (WW2) and force other group into submission. They failed.

    Now USA and EU are trying to do exactly the same thing again. They will also fail and ensuing slaughter will make 90's look like Woodstock.

    Long and bloody war was fought to finally establish clear line of separation. Now they are trying to erase that line.

    USA and EU will not be able to protect their bloodthirtsy lapdogs forever and when they stop  paying attention justice will finally be served.
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:01 pm

    Russian defense minister proposes joint airborne troops drills in Serbia in 2016

    The Serbian troops’ participation in the 2015 International Army Games in Russia has also contributed to their higher combat preparedness, Russia’s Defense Minister said

    MOSCOW, August 17. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has proposed holding a joint tactical exercise of Russian and Serbian airborne troops’ special forces in Serbia next year, Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov said on Monday.

    The Russian defense minister made this proposal at a meeting with his Serbian counterpart Bratislav Gasic.

    "Russia’s Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has proposed to his Serbian counterpart to hold a joint tactical exercise of Russian and Serbian airborne troops’ special forces in Serbia next year," Antonov said.

    At their meeting, the defense ministers of Russia and Serbia paid special attention to the Slavic Brotherhood-2015 joint military exercises of land troops, Airborne and Aerospace Defense Forces, which will be held in Russia in September. Belarusian troops will also take part in the drills.

    The previous Russian-Serbian military exercises took place in Serbia in October 2014 and were among the most significant practical events, Antonov said.

    Along with Russian-Serbian military drills, the Serbian troops’ participation in the 2015 International Army Games in Russia has also contributed to their higher combat preparedness, Antonov said.

    "It is not accidental that Serbian tank units performed better this year than last year and took a prize place," the Russian deputy defense minister said, adding he hoped that Serbia would take part in other kinds of military competitions next year.



    Serbia’s servicemen to train at Russia’s military academies


    Russian and Serbian Defence Ministers discussed the Russian-Serbian military and technical cooperation and further strengthening of military relationship, as well as international security issues

    MOSCOW, August 17. /TASS/. Serbian military men will be training at the Russian Defence Ministry’s academies, deputy minister Anatoly Antonov told reporters on Monday.

    "Russia has approved an application for training Serbian servicemen in Russia’s military educational institutions," Antonov said, commenting on the talks between Russian and Serbian Defence Ministers Sergei Shoigu and Bratislav Gasic.

    The ministers discussed the Russian-Serbian military and technical cooperation and further strengthening of military relationship, as well as international security issues, Antonov said.
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:45 am

    hey Papa Dragon Cool Cool

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150830/1026363032/us-eu-russia-serbia-balkans-integration.html
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    Re: Russia–Serbia Partnership

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:03 am

    Joint military exercise between Russian, Belorusian and Serbian units in Russia till september 5th hosted by 7th Guards Airborne Assault Division. Source is from Serbian national TV station, couldnt find any source in english. Exercise is dubbed "Slavic brotherhood".

    Part of the article: "Војске Русије, Србије и Белорусије до 5. септембра у околини Новоросијска на југу Русије изводе војну вежбу "Словенско братство 2015". На вежби учествује 700 људи, највише падобранаца из Русије, а Србија и Белорусија су послале специјалне јединице.

    Припадници Специјалне бригаде Војске Србије се већ неколико дана у Русији припремају за вежбу са колегама из Русије и Белорусије, сазнаје РТС.

    Учествују ојачани ваздушно-десантни батаљон из Русије, две чете специјалних јединица Белорусије и једна чета специјалаца из Србије. Министарство одбране Србије је крајем августа потврдило да у Русију иде 60 припадника Војске Србије.

    Припадници ВС користиће руско наоружање и опрему, а још прошле године група српских специјалаца имала је обуку у десантирању са руским падобранима Д-10 у ваздушно-десантној академији у Рјазању.

    Домаћин вежбе је 7. гардијска ваздушно-десантна дивизија руске војске, специјализована за планинско ратовање, а командант дивизије пуковник Роман Бреус биће непосредни руководилац вежбе.

    Командант Ваздушно-десантних снага Русије генерал Владимир Шаманов рекао је руским медијима да је сврха вежбе да се заједнички тимови специјалних снага увежбају у откривању и уништењу илегалних оружаних формација."

    Translation: "Armies of Russia, Serbia and Belarus till 5th september in area surrounding Novorosijsk in south of Russia will participate in joint military exercise "Slavic Brotherhood 2015". Around 700 members participate in this exercise mostly Russian paratroopers together with special purpose units from Belarus and Serbia. Members of Special Brigade of Serbian armed forces are already few days in Russia preparing for the exercise itself.

    In exercise participants are strengtend VDV batallion two companies of special purpose units from Belarus and one company from Serbia. It was already published by Serbian Ministry of Defence during august that 60 soliders shall join this exercise.

    Commander of Russian VDV general Vladimir Shamanov, told Russian newspapers that purpose of this exercise is to practice joint detection and destruction of illegal armed formations."
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    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:47 am

    First Russian-Serbian Joint Flight Drills to Kick Off Friday

    Russia’s first joint tactical air exercises with Serbia will kick off on Friday in southern Russia near the Caspian Sea.

    MOSCOW, October 1 (Sputnik) – Russia’s first joint tactical air exercises with Serbia will kick off on Friday in southern Russia near the Caspian Sea, the Russian Defense Ministry said Thursday.

    "First joint Russian-Serbian tactical air exercise – BARS-2015 – will be conducted at the Ashuluk range with the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Serbian Air Force," the ministry announced on its website.

    Crews of the Mikoyan MiG-29 (NATO reporting name Fulcrum) will practice aerial target interception and elimination, as well as airstrikes on ground-based targets, according to the statement. Pilots of the Mil Mi-8 (Hip) helicopters will fire unguided rockets.

    The Serbian Air Force operates up to eight Mi-8T helicopters and three MiG-29s.

    The Russian-Serbian BARS-2015 drills at the Ashuluk range of the Astrakhan Region are scheduled to wrap up October 9.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151001/1027853913/drills-russia-serbia-aerial.html#ixzz3nO1xGDe8
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    Post  George1 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:59 pm

    Serbia to make big mistake if it joins sanctions against Russia - SPP leader

    "Russia is the main defender of our state and national interests in questions of Kosovo and Metohija and Republika Srpska (the Serb Republic in Bosnia)," Popovic emphasized

    BELGRADE, October 17 /TASS/. Serbia would make a big mistake if it joins the EU sanctions against Russia, Nenad Popovic, the head of the Serb People’s Party (SPP), told TASS on Saturday.

    "It’s obvious that the European Union is increasing pressure on Belgrade with an aim to force Serbia to coordinate its foreign policy with Brussels and join the EU sanctions against Russia. That would have been a great mistake and would have contradicted Serbia’s national interests and the will of its people," Popovic said.

    "Russia is the main defender of our state and national interests in questions of Kosovo and Metohija and Republika Srpska (the Serb Republic in Bosnia). At the same time, Russia is the main protector of our vital economic interests. If Serbia joins sanctions against Russia, it means that we will give up all the political and economic advantages, which we have from our contacts with Russia, at our own free will and to our own detriment," the SPP leader stressed.

    "Besides, it means that we will turn our backs on our closest and most faithful ally, and such an attitude to your true friends has never been inherent to the Serbs. Russia has always been with our people in hard times. Today time has come for us to show solidarity with the people of Russia," the politician said.

    "In view of the fact that the European Union is going to build up its pressure on Serbia, the Serb People’s Party continues its ‘No to Anti-Russian Sanctions’ action, which has already been supported by tens of thousands of our citizens. This is the true will expressed by the Serbian people, who stand resolutely against sanctions against fraternal Russia," Popovic emphasized.
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    Post  Militarov on Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:11 pm

    George1 wrote:First Russian-Serbian Joint Flight Drills to Kick Off Friday

    Russia’s first joint tactical air exercises with Serbia will kick off on Friday in southern Russia near the Caspian Sea.

    MOSCOW, October 1 (Sputnik) – Russia’s first joint tactical air exercises with Serbia will kick off on Friday in southern Russia near the Caspian Sea, the Russian Defense Ministry said Thursday.

    "First joint Russian-Serbian tactical air exercise – BARS-2015 – will be conducted at the Ashuluk range with the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Serbian Air Force," the ministry announced on its website.

    Crews of the Mikoyan MiG-29 (NATO reporting name Fulcrum) will practice aerial target interception and elimination, as well as airstrikes on ground-based targets, according to the statement. Pilots of the Mil Mi-8 (Hip) helicopters will fire unguided rockets.

    The Serbian Air Force operates up to eight Mi-8T helicopters and three MiG-29s.

    The Russian-Serbian BARS-2015 drills at the Ashuluk range of the Astrakhan Region are scheduled to wrap up October 9.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151001/1027853913/drills-russia-serbia-aerial.html#ixzz3nO1xGDe8



    Serbian and Russian pilots together on BARS-2015 exercise.
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    Some pics from joint military exercise BARS in which Serbian AF pilots participated.





























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    Post  OminousSpudd on Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:23 pm

    Awesome, cheers Militarov. Keep 'em coming.
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    OminousSpudd wrote:Awesome, cheers Militarov. Keep 'em coming.

    Since you asked Very Happy Enjoy

























































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    thumbsup Thanks mate.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:15 pm

    Rogozin in Belgrade today. Couple of good pieces, first two 'stuff you Turkey' items and then 'take this NATO' some (a minimum number) keep out of our airspace S-300s.

    BELGRADE (Sputnik) — Serbian agricultural producers can replace Turkey in the Russian produce market, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said Monday. Earlier in the day, Rogozin met with Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic and discussed a number of bilateral economic issues during his visit to the Serbian capital of Belgrade. The visit came after Russia's decree on economic restrictions against Turkey, including a food import ban on some products, came into force at the beginning of the month.

    "Today, I addressed Mr. Aleksandar Vucic with a proposal to send the minister of agriculture or some high ranking employee from the [agriculture] ministry to Moscow, in order to directly conduct talks on a multiple increase in agricultural products flow, in demand in the Russian market," Rogozin said at a press conference during his visit to Belgrade. Serbia managed to double its exports of agricultural products to Russia in 2015, however, "it is still not enough," the official added.

    According to the deputy prime minister, there is great potential for Serbian companies in the Russian construction market. "The Serbian construction industry has acquired great opportunities in Russian construction business since January 1," Rogozin said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160111/1032961377/serbia-russia-agriculture.html#ixzz3wyMN0Gq2


    BELGRADE (Sputnik) — Moscow is considering transferring the manufacturing of components for the major Russian carmakers KAMAZ and AVTOVAZ from Turkey to Serbia, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said Monday.

    "Up until now, these car components were manufactured in Turkey. We believe that the Serbian [auto] industry is capable of producing them. This will also bring the Serbian economy serious financial dividends," Rogozin said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160111/1032955752/russia-serbia-car-details.html#ixzz3wyKWGN9f


    Dmitry Rogozin, the Russian deputy prime minister said that the final decision on the matter of Serbian request to buy Russian arms would be made based on the "necessity to maintain Serbia’s security at the minimal sufficient level with regard to its needs."

    BELGRADE (Sputnik) — Russia is closely studying a request for defensive weapons filed by Serbia in the face of increased risks to the Balkan state’s national security, the Russian deputy prime minister said Monday. Rogozin stressed that the final decision on the matter would be made based on the "necessity to maintain Serbia’s security at the minimal sufficient level with regard to its needs."

    He said that high-precision weapons in question were "not offensive ones but those capable of removing any risks of an attack on Serbia." Rogozin was in the Serbian capital of Belgrade on Monday where he met with Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic. He presented the head of the Serbian government with a mock-up of a Russia-made S-300 air defense system.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160111/1032951089/rogozin-serbia-request.html#ixzz3wyLdLNeN

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