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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  Arrow on Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:14 am

    They using the rockets of the old SAM systems as target drones, so the speed is there. wrote:

    Yes but this speed is about 1-1.5km/s ?
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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  kvs on Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:34 pm

    GarryB wrote:The problem with hearing from a lot of sources...

    is that many like to use liquid fuelled ICBMs used by the Soviet Union as evidence of their backwardness... obviously solid fuel is superior to anything else... the west invented solid fuel don't you know... in China.

    I guess the premise of a first strike is that it is of sufficient back-stab suddenness that Russian silo ICBMs will not have time to fuel up.
    But I am quite sure that this was considered in the ICBM design going back to the 1950s. That is why they don't use LOX as an oxidant
    which allows them to be loaded with fuel for a long time. If US nuclear missiles can reach Russian silo targets in 10 minutes then
    it does not make sense to have ICBMs which cannot be in a full time state of readiness.

    But it is rather certain that any launch from near Russia's borders will be detected and Russian silo ICBMs will be flying almost immediately.
    So the 10 minute window is of no particular advantage for the first strike lunatics.

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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:50 am

    Yes but this speed is about 1-1.5km/s ?

    They have plenty of missiles with flight speeds of 4.8km/s and beyond they could use for testing.

    When they displayed interceptions in the 1990s at foreign military events they didn't use Honest Johns and MLRS weapons for the interception tests... they used their own equivalents.

    They would do the same for S400 tests.

    Do you think they use 1.5km/s SAM drones to test the Moscow ABM system every year for the last 30 odd years?


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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  Arrow on Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:34 pm

    What are the missile ? Russia hasn't MRBM and IRBM.



    So how many ICBM intercept Moscow ABM system during the test for last 10 years ?
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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:44 pm

    They have plenty of different missiles they can use... look at all the ICBMs they have withdrawn in the last 20 years.

    Liquid fuelled rockets can turn off their engines at any time and therefore reach any speed desired for reentry for testing purposes.


    So how many ICBM intercept Moscow ABM system during the test for last 10 years ?

    Hahahahahaha... yes... they tested them every year or every second year during the cold war but now they don't test them at all. All those upgrades and new radars and new missiles and they have not tested at all in the last 20 years... very logical.

    BTW I have never seen a photo of Obama taking a shit... I guess he is not human.


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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  Mindstorm on Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:18 am


    Muti-topic article on КБМ with a very interesting paragraph on one of the most secret startegic defense product : active-protection system for startegic installations against ICBM warheads, denomination " «изделие 171».

    Are decribed some of its outstanding achievements, also against a massed attack with 8 real ICBMs.


    http://warfiles.ru/show-149176-put-ot-minometov-k-iskanderu-verbe-i-arene.html

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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:55 am

    Ok. So I was wondering how can Russia develop countermeasures to US MIRVs if it doesn't have detailed knowledge about the way MIRVs manoeuvre. As a Russian this is of concern to me.

    I should qualify my answer by saying that the way the US and Russian missile manouver is secret because they don't want Chinese or Iranian or North Korean missiles doing the same.

    The fact that the method of manouver is secret does not mean you need to know it to defeat it.

    When you launch an R-73 AAM at an F-35 it does not need to know how the flight control system of the F-35 works to hit it... it just needs a lock and the ability to turn when it needs to to ensure that if the target moves it can move to retain an intercept course to hit it.


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    Re: Russian Space Forces: News Thread

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:13 pm

    Russian Space Forces identify all missile launches in their area of responsibility

    The Missile Warning System receives and transmits data of missile launches and missile paths in order to warn authorities of a looming missile attack on settlements and military bases

    YENISEISK, June 6. /TASS/. The Space Forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces have detected all missile launches in the area of responsibility of the Missile Warning System during their combat duty in 2016, Space Forces Commander, Lieutenant General Alexander Golovko, told Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu.

    "During combat duty in 2016, over 40 launches of foreign and Russian ballistic missiles were detected with the help of the Missile Warning System, the Space Tracking Systems and anti-missile defense systems," Golovko reported.

    Today, Shoigu checked the organization of the experimental combat duty of the Voronezh-DM radar located in the vicinity of the city of Yeniseisk, Krasnoyarsk Region.

    The Missile Warning System receives and transmits data of missile launches and missile paths in order to warn authorities of a looming missile attack on settlements and military bases. The Missile Warning System deploys the new-generation Voronezh class radars.

    At present, four new Voronezh radars are now on combat duty in the Leningrad, Kaliningrad, Irkutsk and Krasnodar Regions. Three more new Voronezh radars were deployed on experimental combat duty in the Krasnoyarsk, Altai and Orenburg Regions. By the end of 2017, there are plans to wrap up their experimental operation and put them on full combat duty.


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    http://tass.com/defense/950028


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    Antimissile 'umbrella' to be created over Russia’s enitre territory

    Post  Austin on Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:14 pm

    Antimissile 'umbrella' to be created over Russia’s enitre territory

    http://tass.com/defense/950236

    MOSCOW, June 7. /TASS/. Russia’s defense industry has proposed to the Defense Ministry a rational missile defense option that will allow for opening an anti-missile umbrella over the country’s whole territory, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Wednesday.

    "The joint working group for creating the technical basis of Russia’s air and space defense, which I have led since 2012, has arrived at the conclusion that the industry and military scientists have managed to propose to the Defense Ministry a rational option of creating the country’s missile defense shield, including the ground and space components. Once Russia’s integral space system is in place, Russia will find itself under an anti-missile umbrella," he said.

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