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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  George1 on Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:08 pm

    Operation in Syria boosts interest in Russian ships carrying Kalibr missiles — official

    Foreign customers of Russia's arms exporter take special interest in Project 636 submarines and Project 21632 Tornado missile ships

    LE BOURGET , October 17. /TASS/. The Russian Navy’s participation in the operation in Syria has boosted foreign customers’ interest towards Russian ships armed with the missile complex Club - the export configuration of Kalibr cruise missiles, the chief delegate of Russia’s arms exporter Rosoboronexport, Yevgeny Odintsov, told TASS at the Euronaval-2016 show.

    "The Russian Navy’s participation in the operation in Syria has boosted potential foreign customers’ interest in Russian ships capable of dealing effective, high accuracy strikes against targets deep inside enemy territory," Odintsov said.

    In particular, he mentioned project 636 submarines. One Russian submarine of this type, Rostov-on-Don last December launched Kalibr missiles at facilities of the Islamic State (terrorist organization outlawed in Russia) from the Mediterranean.

    "At the beginning of the 2000s the Club-S system (export configuration of the Kalibr system for submarines - TASS) lent a new quality to the Varshavyanka class submarines and confirmed the unique capabilities of that project in the context of its modernization. Project 636 and 877EKM submarines armed with the Club system are now organic to the naval forces of many countries," Odintsov said.

    "Alongside this foreign customers have displayed interest in the missile-carrying ship of project 216332 Tornado. Upgraded ships of that project (the Russian Navy uses project 21631 ships; Tornado is the project’s export version - TASS) used Kalibr missiles to deliver strikes from the Caspian Sea," Odintsov said.

    He pointed out that small surface ships armed with Kalibr missiles (export configuration called Club-N) "are of the greatest interest to the countries which are implementing large-scale naval programs or have considerable national interests in land-locked seas, large bays and insular areas. Among such countries there are some countries in the Persian Gulf, the Mediterranean, Southeast Asia and South America," he said.

    The Russian Navy launched cruise missiles against terrorists in Syria in 2015 and 2016 from ships of project 21631 in the Caspian and Mediterranean seas.


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    Kalibr-isation of the Russian navy

    Post  hoom on Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:45 am

    Kalibr-isation of the Russian navy http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2334009.html

    Bunch of professional Russia watching think-tankers having a talk-fest on 14th Dec & they failed to add 20386 to their list Laughing (since they include 22160)
    Can't find the rest of the slides which is a shame, I'm wondering if there are parts covering modernisation of existing ships (particularly Nakhimov but possibly Oscars) & actual total numbers of missiles compared with European/Asian/US navies.
    But with the likes of Gorenberg involved that's probably expecting too much thinking Rolling Eyes
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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:31 pm

    From the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea frigates "Admiral Essen", "Admiral Grigorovich" and the submarine "Krasnodar" of the Russian Navy, launched six cruise missiles "Caliber" against the targets of the terrorist group IGIL in Syria.




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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:33 pm

    RussianDefence.com‏ @Russian_Defence 44m44 minutes ago
    Replying to @Russian_Defence

    Mockups of different variants of #Kalibr cruise #missiles. Labels in English too. Via http://forums.airbase.ru


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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:05 pm

    Any information on upgrade path for Klub System specially the LACM Variant ?

    I have found information on Tomahawk Upgrade Path , Hope they have some good comprehensive update patch for Klub System

    https://s22.postimg.org/ccq42pv9t/Navy_TLAMEvolution.jpg
    https://s4.postimg.org/tozwv5j3h/Raytheon_OSu_W2_TLAM_IV_001.jpg
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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:09 pm

    Why would they? The path that has been made has is relatively new. Tomahawk is an old system.

    Russia's fault would be trying to do what you suggest, always playing the comparative game. Instead, Russia is developing its own path of development that they see fit as a good counter to the US and European systems.

    This is the main problem I have with most people and media regarding Russia's tech capabilities - too many people expect that Russia follows the same path as the west because the west is the best idea, which is far from the Truth. Anything from your last article about the AESA radar to now with upgrade paths you want similar from Tomahawk. It is all marketing and they have you fooled.

    Instead, Russia's Kalibr system proved itself very well, much greater than most to all competitors. That alone speaks volumes.
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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  hoom on Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:26 pm

    Any information on upgrade path for Klub System specially the LACM Variant ?
    Well first you sign up to MTCR like India did, then Russia can sell you versions with longer than 300km range sunny
    Eventually you might be allowed to buy an export Zirkon Razz


    It wouldn't be surprising if there will be various upgrades to the current models based on operational experience but unlike the US, Russia already has a comprehensive suite of missiles & doesn't desperately need to rework them to fix massive capability holes.
    The big capability hole Russia has to work on is getting significant number of launch tubes on the water.

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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:37 pm

    The Russian MIC is also not always looking out for the next profit earning R&D opportunity.
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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:20 pm

    Nice post number 92 JohninMK...

    The missiles depicted are the export models of the Club family...

    From top to bottom as written on their sides we have the 3M54E1 (note that symbol that looks like a 3 is cyrillic for E), the 3M-14E, the 3M54E, the 91RE1 and the 91RTE2.

    These are all export versions and can all be deployed from the UKSK launcher system on exported ships and subs.

    They are also .533mm calibre and can be fired from ship or sub based torpedo tubes.

    The domestic models are longer ranged.


    The 3M54E1 is a 6.2m long anti ship cruise missile that is subsonic all the way to the target with a 400kg warhead.

    The 3M14E is a land attack cruise missile... the domestic version is called Kalibr and it has a range of 2,500km plus in the domestic model and is also subsonic all the way to the target.

    The 3M54E is the supersonic anti ship missile with two stage flight... subsonic cruise most of the way to the target and then mach 3 for the last 30-40km at very low altitude with its pointy nose being a clue to its high speed.

    The 91RE1 and the 91RTE2, with their pointy noses give away their supersonic speed too but these are both ballistic weapons... fired at a trajectory to deliver a guided torpedo near a targets location.

    The 91RE1 is 8m long and has a range of 50km at mach 2.5, while the shorter 91RTE2 is 6.5m long and has a range of 40km at mach 2.

    As I said they have a ballistic path so the rocket motor burns for a few seconds and then falls away... the bigger booster on the larger weapon accelerating the bigger weapon to higher speed therefore giving it the better range...

    The Onyx/Yakhont/Brahmos can also be launched from the UKSK launcher and the soon to come Zircon will also be compatible too.

    A very useful way to add a capability to your new and upgraded vessels...



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    caliber missile why named so ?

    Post  saynow on Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:31 am

    is it standard for all new missiles
    or some meaning else
    first time i heard about the name
    it is English word i know it i heard before
    but i couldnt get the meaning why russian named it so
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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:14 am

    saynow wrote:is it standard for all new missiles
    or some meaning else
    first time i heard about the name
    it is English word i know it i heard before
    but i couldnt get the meaning why russian named it so
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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:42 am

    AFAIK the name calibr is for the missile family whose export name is Klub.

    It is a land attack subsonic missile and a subsonic and subsonic/supersonic anti ship missile that evolved from the grannat nuclear armed cruise missile from the 1980s.

    It is not a standard name for all new missiles... the existing Onyx missile has the export model Yakhont, which was developed with India to create Brahmos. The replacement Zircon is also being worked on with India in an export version too.

    Note the domestic names relate to geological names... ie Granit, Amethist, Vulcan, etc etc.


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    Re: Kalibr missile system

    Post  hoom on Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:02 am

    In normal use Calibre = the diameter of a gun barrel.

    For the missile its a family name including multiple quite different missiles.

    Think of it like how US navy has Standard (Standard = military flag) as a family name for a bunch of SAMs.

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