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    Re: US Navy and Naval Aircraft: News

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:28 pm

    GarryB wrote:they will not become Nimitz type strike carriers... Russia simply has no use for such vessels.

    Nimitz are not strike carriers. They are just aircraft carriers with a wide range of capabilities on behalf of their air groups. Aerial dominance, nuclear strike, ASW, EW, AEW&C, etc. You're thinking of commando carriers like good old HMS Hermes or Wasp and Tarawa class of amphib assault carriers.

    GarryB wrote:Let you in on a secret... they are both colonial powers with very specific needs.

    Russia was/is a colonial power as well, just not a major naval colonial power like the other two.

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    Re: US Navy and Naval Aircraft: News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:40 am

    Nimitz are not strike carriers. They are just aircraft carriers with a wide range of capabilities on behalf of their air groups. Aerial dominance, nuclear strike, ASW, EW, AEW&C, etc. You're thinking of commando carriers like good old HMS Hermes or Wasp and Tarawa class of amphib assault carriers.

    They are strike carriers. Their purpose is to go somewhere with bombers to attack places and to have fighter aircraft to protect the strike packages and carrier.

    Hermes is a helicopter carrier trying to be an aircraft carrier on the cheap.

    Russia was/is a colonial power as well, just not a major naval colonial power like the other two.

    Was. Not is. And only a land colonial power of very limited reach.


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    Re: US Navy and Naval Aircraft: News

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:46 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Nimitz are not strike carriers. They are just aircraft carriers with a wide range of capabilities on behalf of their air groups. Aerial dominance, nuclear strike, ASW, EW, AEW&C, etc. You're thinking of commando carriers like good old HMS Hermes or Wasp and Tarawa class of amphib assault carriers.

    They are strike carriers. Their purpose is to go somewhere with bombers to attack places and to have fighter aircraft to protect the strike packages and carrier.

    Hermes is a helicopter carrier trying to be an aircraft carrier on the cheap.

    I said the old R12 Hermes. Nimitz are not strike carriers, they're not just about strike packages, at all.

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    Russia was/is a colonial power as well, just not a major naval colonial power like the other two.

    Was. Not is. And only a land colonial power of very limited reach.

    So it's what I said. Russia is a colonial power. They have presence in colonially acquired regions to this very day.
    And I don't think that's wrong, just stating the facts.

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    Re: US Navy and Naval Aircraft: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:10 am

    I said the old R12 Hermes. Nimitz are not strike carriers, they're not just about strike packages, at all.

    Bombers make up half the aircraft on board and with new multirole aircraft all the aircraft on board will be bomber capable...

    So it's what I said. Russia is a colonial power. They have presence in colonially acquired regions to this very day.
    And I don't think that's wrong, just stating the facts.

    There is a difference between is and was. Russia does not have colonies.


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    Re: US Navy and Naval Aircraft: News

    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:14 am

    GarryB wrote:Bombers make up half the aircraft on board and with new multirole aircraft all the aircraft on board will be bomber capable...

    Not dedicated bombers.

    There is a difference between is and was.

    That's you talking to yourself then.

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