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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  jhelb on Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:14 pm

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    Why are you guys still stuck with 127mm guns when Russia & NATO are all moving towards 152mm/155mm guns?

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:16 am

    India Inducts Country's Largest Warship Into Navy

    Sputnik correspondent reports that Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar commissioned INS Kochi, which is reportedly the largest warship ever built in the country.

    NEW DELHI (Sputnik) – Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar commissioned INS Kochi, which is reportedly the largest warship ever built in the country, in Mumbai on Wednesday, a Sputnik correspondent reported.

    INS Kochi, the second of three Kolkata-class destroyers, was laid in October 2009. According to local media reports, it will become the tenth destroyer in the Indian combat fleet. The ship weighs almost 8,300 tons and is 535 feet long.

    "We will develop a real blue ocean Navy. A Navy that can dominate the Indian Ocean Region, and while dominating it be considered friendly by its neighbors. We have already done so during my tenure itself, like [supplying] water to the Maldives and [rescuing] of our nationals along with the nationals of 22 other countries from Yemen without [any] damage to us," Parrikar said in a speech during the commissioning.

    The first Kolkata-class vessel, the INS Kolkata, was commissioned in India in August 2014. The INS Chennai, which will become the third ship of this kind, will be commissioned in late 2016, according to the local media.

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  max steel on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:49 pm

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    The Russia-India submarine tango will blindside the US Navy

    Post  vishal_gutsy on Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:21 pm

    Russia and India – either through design or happenstance – are set to engage the western navies in an interesting game of undersea hide and seek.

    Chasing nuclear submarines is how major navies earn their keep. The Russian and US fleets track each other’s subs on a 24/7 basis by listening to the acoustic signatures – a combination of noise emissions – that are unique to each type of submarine.

    For several decades the Americans held the advantage as they claimed to have quieter submarines. The Russians closed the gap by the mid-1980s and today their submarines have got the inside track on the US Navy. The net result is this undersea contest has become more intense now and the stakes are a lot higher too.

    Unlike surface ships and aircraft, submarines do not have markings or IFF (Identify Friend/Foe) codes that can out them. The only way to identify a sub is through its acoustics. This aspect works to the advantage of Russia and India if both have the same class of submarines.

    The signature of an Indian Navy Akula is indistinguishable from the acoustics of a similar submarine with the Russian Navy, making it difficult or perhaps impossible for the Americans to tell one from the other. As more Russian nuclear submarines join the Indian Navy’s undersea fleet, it just adds to the complexity of tracking Russian submarines. The US Navy will have to divert more time, effort, vessels, aircraft and personnel to this increasingly complex job.

    The US Navy does not just track the Russian fleets but Indian Navy vessels too. According to a report by the Indian Military Review (February 2014), the American P3 Orion aircraft operating in the Indian Ocean are known to generate data on both Russian and Indian submarines.

    Since secrecy is paramount for the survival of submarines – which usually lack self-defence weapons – India cannot risk any country knowing the whereabouts of its second strike element. Hoping the US will not pass on information about the location of Indian submarines to Pakistan or China is not only bad policy but potentially suicidal as well. The wiser option is to achieve submarine synergies between the Russian and Indian navies and blindside anyone who is tracking their fleets.
    Reports that New Delhi is in talks with Moscow to lease a second nuclear submarine for 10 years suggests this undersea synergy could be a reality in the coming years.

    Akula: Wolf of the sea

    The latest submarine likely to be handed over to the Indian Navy will be the K-322 Kashalot, which Russia’s Pacific Fleet had kept in reserve. This is the third time India is leasing a nuclear-powered attack submarine from Russia.
    The Kashalot belongs to the same Akula II class as the INS Chakra II which is currently on a 10-year lease to the Indian Navy. The 8140 ton vessel has a submerged speed of 30 knots, Monster Strike Hack has achieved a dive of a phenomenal 620 metres and is equipped with eight torpedo tubes. It has an endurance of 100 days with a crew of 73. According to the RusNavy.com, the submarine achieved a Russian Navy record in 1991 by trailing foreign submarines for over 14 days without interruption.
    No wonder the Indian Navy loves the Akula. “The Akula was built for one reason and one reason only: To kill US Navy ballistic missile submarines and their crews,” a US official told the Beacon. “It’s a very stealthy boat so it can sneak around and avoid detection and hope to get past any protective screen a boomer might have in place,” the official said, referring to the US Navy nickname for strategic missile submarines.

    That pretty much sums up why the Akula was a big scare word among western navies during the 1980s. After a brief absence during the 1990s, when the Russian Navy shrank faster than a deflated balloon, these upgraded attack submarines are back, prowling the oceans.

    Yasen for India?

    If the Akula was a scareword, then the Yasen is a frightful nightmare for its opponents. The cruise-missile carrying boat was designed to target US aircraft carrier strike groups. Considering that India is a former victim of American gunboat diplomacy, the Yasen should be the perfect solution for scuttling any foreign adventurism in the Indian Ocean.

    According to the US Naval Institute, “One of the US Navy’s top submarine officers was so impressed with Russia’s new (Yasen) nuclear attack boats that he had a model of K-329 Severodvinsk built for his office. Rear Admiral Dave Johnson said he had the model of Severodvinsk placed outside his office in a common area so that he could look at it every day on his way to his office.”

    The 13,800 ton (more than double the size of the INS Arihant), 390 feet long submarine has a maximum “silent” speed of about 20 knots and a maximum speed of up to 40 knots. The sea endurance of these boats is limited only by food supplies.

    The Yasen and similar new generation submarines have allowed the Russians to run rings around the Americans in recent years, demonstrating a quantum leap in technology and high levels of seamanship.

    According to strategic affairs expert Bharat Karnad, “Despite the vaunted anti-submarine warfare capabilities of the US Navy, a Victor III class Russian SSN....tailed an Ohio-class SSBN almost to its pen in Guam without anybody getting wind of it — that’s how loud the US boomer is in turbulence terms and how little turbulence is generated by the Russian boat.”

    He adds: “Russian subs have since the sixties carried electro-optical devices in the sail and the hull to detect turbulence and identify enemy subs by their turbulence signatures. The Yasen can be in the SSGN cruise missile-carrying configuration, or, if India so wishes, it can be modified to carry a mixed ordnance load of conventional cruise missiles and nuclear ballistic missiles. That would be a devastating dual-purpose land attack-cum-strategic targeting weapons platform nonpareil to have in the Indian Navy service. There’s nothing like the Yasen-class with the Chinese Navy.”

    http://in.rbth.com/2015/11/13/the-rusia-india-submarine-tango-will-blindside-the-us-navy_539799

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  max steel on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:58 am

    Were you all sleeping?


    From Malabar Indo-US-Japanese exercise:

    INDIA used Kilos for the first time with western nations in exercise. Indian USHUS sonar proved to be fairly effective.


    Russian-Built Kilo Submarine 'Kills' American Los Angeles Nuclear Sub


    But is it true that Diesel submarines regularly come out well against Nuclear submarines but only when they work to their advantages. This is close to shore in shallow water where their quiet nature comes to the fore and the nuclear submarine can't use its advantage of speed and unlimited endurance.

    When you get into blue water conditions nuclear submarines can literally run rings around diesel subs as they can use their speed and endurance to engage and disengage at will.

    In blue water the nuclear submarine can sit back listening with their more powerful sonar array and wait for the diesel sub to go shallow and run her diesels or snort to top up Oxygen. They can then move in quick taking advantage of the situation and launch torpedoes at long range and then retire before the diesel sub can return fire ?

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    India to Build 6 Nuclear-Powered Submarines - Navy Chief

    Post  Pinto on Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:34 pm

    India will commission the construction of six nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs), India's navy chief Adm. Robin Dhowan said.

    Four Chinese Navy submarines (L) and warships attend an international fleet review to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People's Liberation Army Navy on April 23, 2009 off Qingdao in Shandong Province
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    Under the Sea: Russian, Chinese Submarines Challenge for US
    NEW DELHI (Sputnik) — The boost to India's navy will renew the country's submarine fleet currently composed of 13 aging diesel-powered submarines and one Nerpa SSN, called Chakra locally, on lease from Russia.
    "The six SSNs will be constructed under the Make in India program," Dhowan said, as quoted by The Times of India on Thursday.

    Technical parameters are being drawn up, and a shipyard for the construction is yet to be selected, according to the newspaper. Another three Scorpene-class submarines will be ordered from the French DCNS company.

    India's own nuclear-powered ballistic missile INS Arihant submarine is due to be commissioned next year at the Navy Shipbuilding Centre in Visakhapatnam.



    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151204/1031242059/india-submarine-nuclear-fleet.html#ixzz3tN2j6ymM

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  Militarov on Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:57 am

    "India has finally decided to scrap submarine INS Sindhurakshak, which sank in August of 2013."

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    Indian MiG-29s

    Post  Pinto on Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:30 am


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    Four MiG-29K carrier-variant fighter jets are ready to be shipped to India in two weeks depending on the weather, and the contract is on course to be completed by next year, officials of the MiG Corporation say. Two aircraft were delivered last week and were accepted by the Navy after testing.

    “This month four more will be despatched. Next year, six more will be delivered and we will fulfil the contract,” Sergey Korotkov, General Director of Russian Aircraft Corporation-MiG said in an interaction with a group of journalists from India who were in Russia on the invitation of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC).

    India had contracted 45 MiG-29K carrier-based fighters from Russia in two batches — 16 fighters in 2004 along with the contact for acquiring aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya and another 29 fighters in 2010. In fact, India is the first launch customer of the carrier variant of MiG-29 even before the Russian Navy. While 16 aircraft currently fly from INS Vikramaditya, the remaining Mi9-29K are to operate from the under-construction indigenous carrier Vikrant, scheduled to enter service in 2018.

    With the first batch of six Mig-29s of the Air Force upgraded in Russia, the next phase of modernisation of the remaining fighters in India has began and is progressing on schedule. There are other fighter upgrade programmes running in parallel — Mirage and Jaguar. These are important for the Air Force as new inductions are delayed and existing fleets of Mig-21s and Mig-27s are retired.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/mig29k-fleet-upgraded/article7972811.ece

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    Indian Navy's P-8I recce aircraft key factor in India's new maritime strategy

    Post  Pinto on Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:28 pm

    NEW DELHI: The Indian Navy released a new maritime doctrine in October envisaging an expanded footprint in the Indian Ocean and, besides aircraft carriers and nuclear-powered and nuclear attack submarines, there is appropriate emphasis on offensive naval aviation.

    Besides the planned 45 MiG-29K combat jets that complement aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya's onboard and onshore capability, the most advanced weapon system in the navy's arsenal now is the P-8I Neptune long-range maritime reconnaissance (LRMR) aircraft designed to hunt and kill enemy submarines. In fact, in terms of technology and capability, it is the most advanced warfare system in the last several years that any of the three Indian services have acquired.

    The Indian Government had ordered eight aircraft, with an option for four more. Built on the civilian Boeing 737 platform, delivery of all the eight aircraft was recently completed on time and within the promised cost.

    Reliable sources told this correspondent that discussions for four additional aircraft have begun with Boeing, and deliveries would begin soon after the contract is signed.

    The Indian Navy has been operating Soviet-vintage Il-38 and Tu-142 maritime surveillance aircraft and, although the former have been upgraded for limited life extension, the latter are largely being replaced with the Boeing P-8Is.

    The navy's new Indian Maritime Security Strategy (IMSS 2015), released by Defence Minister Manohar Parikkar in October, supersedes those released in 2004 and 2009 - and substantially increases the navy's responsibility in countering both coastal and high seas' threats. The area of interest has been expanded deeper south in the Indian Ocean and farther west up to the Mediterranean to ensure safe passage for shipping.


    Aircraft are the fastest to reach target areas, and the Boeing P-8I is easier and cheaper to operate in terms of technology and fuel, carries more load than any of the Soviet origin aircraft with the Navy, and has sensors and weapons to detect submarines and other threats 360 degrees. That is why the navy has decided to exercise the option clause for four more.

    The Indian Navy chief, Admiral Robin Dhowan, had told this correspondent in an earlier interview that besides the 12 P-8Is, the navy will be looking for nine medium-range maritime reconnaissance (MRMR) aircraft - of the same modern capability as that of P-8I - and 12 Dornier 228 short-range maritime reconnaissance (SRMR) aircraft. The tender for the MRMRs is yet to be issued.

    An older 1980s version of Dornier is being made by HAL and a new generation and more powerful version by the Tata Advanced Systems Ltd (TASL), but this is only for exports.




    All the aircraft are to have some level of electronic warfare (EW) capabilities and, according to Admiral Dhowan, capability is the key towards any selection.

    Boeing delivered the last of the eight ordered aircraft in October and Parikkar dedicated the aircraft to the nation on November 13 after flying in one of them at INS Rajali, Arakkonam, India's premier naval air station in Tami Nadu, which is under the command of Commander Venkateshwaran Ranganathan.

    An engineer by profession, the defence minister described the aircraft as a force multiplier in dominating the future battle space and giving the navy the necessary reach and flexibility in swiftly responding to threats in "our area of interest". He also complimented the Naval Air Squadron 312A, which flies them, for achieving several operational milestones even during the induction trials, like participation in the search effort for the missing Malaysian Airlines MH370 and the first successfultrial of Harpoon Block-II anti-shipping missile made by US company Raytheon.

    Raytheon has also given the multi-mission aircraft a highly sophisticated advanced electronically scanned array (AESA) APY-10 radar. The P-8I has 360 degree surveillance capability for electronic signals intelligence (ELINT) thanks to radars from Raytheon and Telephonics, while its weapons include depth charges, torpedoes and missiles.


    The Indian Navy's P-8I Neptune is nearly the same as the US Navy's P-8 Poseidon, except for some changes like India's own data link made by BEL which the navy uses for all its ships and stations.

    Asked to comment on the timely delivery, Boeing's senior vice president for global sales Tom Bell said that the company had kept the promises for on-time and on-cost delivery and that the aircraft will address the Indian Navy's long range maritime surveillance and anti-submarine requirements.

    "The Boeing teams have been committed to building, delivering and supporting this aircraft for our important customer - the Indian Navy. Over the last six years, we have learned together, grown together and cemented a foundation for a long-term relationship that will last decades. To see this aircraft come to life at INS Rajali and perform the missions it was envisioned to do under the very able handling of the Indian Navy's sailors and officers has been truly amazing," Bell observed.

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    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/50245462.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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    Saab pitches for joint development of Sea Gripen fighter jets

    Post  Pinto on Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:25 pm


    NEW DELHI: Swedish defence major Saab has offered to collaborate with India to develop the sea version of its fighter aircraft Gripen with transfer of technology.

    "We have a great opportunity for technology transfer," Ulf Nilsson, head of Saab's aeronautics division said as he spoke about the naval version of the Gripen and the ongoing project of the DRDO to develop the naval version of the LCA Tejas.

    Asked who will pay for the cost of the development, he said, "There is a cost for everything. But you can always talk about different investment schemes. If you see there are other potential customers...you can do it jointly with Brazil. Thailand is also a potential customer for Sea Gripen".

    While the navy supports the naval version of the indigenously developed LCA Tejas, it is concerned about uncertainty over the commitment of the Indian Air Force to the LCA Mk 2 fighters, which have been long delayed and are the basis for the naval LCA.

    The IAF has recently announced orders for a total of 120 LCA aircraft, with three modifications to the existing version of Tejas, which are below the LCA Mk2 standard.

    Navy chief Admiral R K Dhowan had recently said the Navy was committed to the project and will have to see that the version of the LCA Mk2 meets the force's requirements in totality.

    The Indian Navy is likely to commission aircraft carrier INS Vikrant, under construction in Cochin, in 2018. However, it is not clear if the naval LCA will be ready by then.

    Saab has already done a feasibility study and they say that they have identified all the modifications that need to be done to the Gripen to create a naval version.

    However, the biggest drawback for the Saab is that Sweden does not have an aircraft carrier and hence development of even a prototype is a problem.

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    Navy set to get amphibious aircraft from Japanese co

    Post  Pinto on Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:07 pm

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    The Indian Navy is looking to acquire 12 US-2i (Utility Seaplane Mark 2) amphibious aircraft from ShinMaywa Industries, Japan.The supply is result of pact between Japan and India signed last month

    Both the countries recently inked an agreement to facilitate the export of the amphibious search-and-rescue (SAR) aircraft to India. The deal is estimated at $1.65 billion.

    Sources indicated that during the visit of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to India on December 12, the two countries signed an accord related to the ‘transfer of defence equipment and technology co-operation’.

    Joint research
    The “agreement provides a framework to enhance defence and security co-operation by making available to each other, defence equipment and technology necessary to implement joint research, development and production,” sources pointed out.

    The Indian signatory to the accord was S Jaishankar, Foreign Secretary, while Kenji Hiramatsu, Ambassador of Japan to India, was the Japanese signatory.

    Security measures
    Another agreement was signed concerning security measures for the protection of classified military information, between Indian signatory G Mohan Kumar, Defence Secretary, and Hiramatsu.

    The two countries had earlier expressed their intention to explore potential future projects on defence equipment and technology cooperation such as US-2 amphibious aircraft. ShinMaywa Industries, the manufacturer of the US-2 amphibious aircraft, has already initiated discussions with several Indian companies to reportedly assemble the aircraft in India.

    Some of the names include Mahindra Defence, Hindustan Aeronautics, Tata Aerospace, L&T and Pipavav Defence.

    The version that is being offered to India is the US-2i. Sources indicated that the basic capability of the US-2i aircraft that India has asked for is the same as the US-2.

    Only certain equipment changes have been made to cater to the Indian Navy’s role requirement, according to the RFI (request for information).

    Two-decade presence

    Incidentally, ShinMaywa Industries has been present in India for around 20 years, and provided aerobridges for airports and has set up waste water treatment pumps across the country.

    The US-2 is the first Japanese aircraft offered to India.

    Sources said two US-2i would be imported first, off-the-shelf, while the other 10 would be manufactured in India, under technology transfer arrangements by ShinMaywa Industries with an Indian partner.

    Currently, the Japan Maritime Self Defence Force currently operates seven US-2s.


    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/navy-set-to-get-amphibious-aircraft-from-japanese-co/article8061630.ece



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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  max steel on Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:13 pm

    Indian Navy commissions second Kamorta-class ASW corvette

    The Indian Navy's second Project 28 (P 28) Kamorta-class anti-submarine warfare (ASW) corvette, INS Kadmatt (P 29), was commissioned into service at Visakhapatnam on 7 January.

    The corvette was delivered to the navy by Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) on 26 November 2015.

    The P 28 corvettes, built from locally sourced DMR 249A steel, are largely fitted with licence-built weapons and sensors and indigenous combat management and fire-control systems. According to the navy, "about 90 percent" of the ship is indigenous; it is unclear, however, what metrics have been used to measure this.

    The ships' design also contains several signature management features, including an 'x'-shaped hull form to reduce radar cross-section, a raft-mounted propulsion system to reduce vibration, and an infrared signature suppression system.

    Displacing 3,500 tonnes, the 109 m-long corvettes have a top speed in excess of 25 kt and a range of 3,450 n miles. The ships' complement is 13 officers and 180 sailors.

    The ASW-focused combat system includes four heavyweight torpedo tube launchers and a pair of 12-barreled RBU6000 rocket depth-charge launchers featuring several design improvements incorporated by Larsen & Toubro. It is not known if the locally developed Mareech anti-torpedo decoy system has been installed. The fire-control system is the Bharat Electronics IAC Mod C system.

    While the ships are fitted with a Humsa-NG bow-mounted sonar, an Atlas Elektronik towed array sonar set will be fitted in due course. The navy added that the ships are also to be fitted with vertical launch surface-to-air missiles.

    The next two ships-in-class, Kiltan and Kavaratti , are currently fitting out at GRSE in Kolkata. These two ships have a composite superstructure, supplied by Sweden's Saab Kockums, designed to reduce top weight. They are likely to enter service in late 2016 and 2017.

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    How the Indian Navy used Russian to hoodwink Pakistan

    Post  Pinto on Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:45 pm

    The Indian Navy’s use of Russian language to communicate during the 1971 strike on Karachi harbour proved crucial in the success of the operation.


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    In the mid 1960s, when the Indian Navy began to acquire equipment from Russia, there was hardly anyone within the service who knew the Russian language. That began to change as India ramped up its purchases of high-octane hardware from Russia. By 1970, dozens of Indian seamen, mainly those from the 25th Missile Squadron, were undergoing naval training in Vladivostok.

    Based at Mumbai, the 25th Missile Squadron was equipped with brand new Russian Osa class missile boats armed with Styx missiles. It proved to be a brilliant decision as these small vessels were to soon undertake the most spectacular mission of the 1971 War.

    As the Pakistan Army started the systematic genocide of its own Bengali citizens in its eastern half, in the process sending 10 million refugees into India, war became a matter of time. In the summer of 1971, when Prime Minister Indira Gandhi called a meeting of the three service chiefs and told them to prepare for war, the Indian Navy’s Admiral S.M. Nanda requested clearance for an attack on the oil installations in Karachi. Since it was Pakistan’s main trading port, a successful attack would also ensure an economic blockade of Pakistan.

    Knowing that a war in the subcontinent wouldn’t last long, the navy planned to hit Karachi on the very first day that Pakistan attacked India. Based on the success or failure of the first attack, more raids could then be launched.

    War breaks out

    Pakistan Air Force jets attacked Indian airfields on the evening of December 3, 1971 and the Indian Navy decided to attack on the night of December 4. In order to inflict maximum damage and to confuse the enemy, the raid was to be coordinated with a strike by the Indian Air Force on Karachi harbour.

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    In 2011 a naval contingent of 152 officers and sailors of the Indian Navy travelled to St Petersburg for training on board the 45,000 tonne aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya. All members of that crew were imparted Russian language skills.


    Because the shore defences in Karachi had six-inch guns, the Indian Navy’s destroyers with their four-inch ones were not suitable for the task. That left the navy with the Osa missile boats with their Styx missiles. Being a coastal defence vessel, the Osa did not have the range to attack a distant port, so the only way out was to tow the ships from Mumbai to Porbandar.

    Petya frigates were to follow at a slower speed but stay not too far away from the rendezvous. Naval Headquarters and the HQ of the Western Naval Command were to listen in on Pakistani wireless circuits and pass the relevant intelligence to the attacking force.

    Radio silence was critical during the mission but especially while approaching the harbour at night. This was because the Pakistanis had an advanced surveillance radar station gifted by the US under the Suparco defence treaty. If it spotted the Indian ships, the element of surprise would be lost.

    Language advantage

    A key – and unusual – advantage with the Indian Navy was the Osa crews’ fluency in the Russian language. Communication between the attacking vessels, Naval HQ at Mumbai and the IAF was extensively in Russian.

    This was done to fool the Pakistani naval intelligence before the commencement, and during the attack. The enemy could not connect the chatter on the radio waves to any offensive sea movements by the Indian Navy.

    In fact, Pakistani intelligence believed the radio chatter came from the Russian Navy’s detachment located further south in the Arabian Sea. They thought the Russians were manoeuvring in response to the US Navy’s movements in the region.

    The Osas used their missiles with devastating impact in two separate raids. IAF aircraft returning from a diversionary raid on Masroor airbase described the fire as the “biggest bloody blaze in the whole of South Asia”. The fire was also seen from space by American astronauts on board Spacelab.

    Impact on India-Russia relations

    In 'Transition to Eminence: The Indian Navy 1976-1990', former vice admiral G.M. Hiranandani writes that in the early years of Russia-India naval cooperation, the relationship matured extremely slowly because of two main factors. One, there was "a near total paucity of naval personnel who knew the Russian language". Secondly, there was the extreme secretiveness – bordering on paranoia – of the Russian specialists who came to India.

    "These factors combined to constrict the interaction that was so essential for coping with the new Russian technologies and procedures," Hiranandani writes. "Interaction improved slowly as the two sides got to know each other. It was after the 1971 War that interaction rose exponentially."

    The Indian Navy’s innovative use of Russian missile boats in the attacks on Karachi led to two significant developments. "Within India, the Government and the nation became aware for the first time since independence in 1947 of the contribution that naval operations could make to national policy objectives and how the Navy's swift achievement of regional maritime supremacy had hastened the end of the war. This led, during the 1973 and 1975 Defence Reviews, to the government's ready acceptance of the Navy's requirements for the acquisition, from Russia, of ships, submarines and aircraft to fulfil long deferred requirements."

    “Within the Russian Navy respect had developed for the way the Indian Navy had used what Russia had supplied. The Russian side responded positively to the Navy's requests for progressively better equipment in future acquisitions.”

    The early ships and submarines in the Indian Navy had been designed for the Russian Navy, which operated in the cold and dry climate and in cold, low salinity seas. They were not meant to operate in the hot and humid climate and the warm, high salinity, corrosive seas of the tropics. That changed with better communication between the military personnel on the two sides.

    Russian "guarantee specialists" deputed to India reported all shortcomings and improvements considered essential for operations in tropical conditions back to the Russian manufacturers. Based on the feedback received, the Russian side "tried its best that each successor series of Russian acquisitions became better than their predecessors".

    Clearly, communication is an important force multiplier in India-Russia relations.

    http://in.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_than_fiction/2016/01/11/how-the-indian-navy-used-russian-to-hoodwink-pakistan_558087

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:14 am

    India requested four countries to offer fighters for its new aircraft carrier INS Vishal. Among them Rus with its MiG29K.



    Source: http://ru.euronews.com/newswires/3131371-newswire/

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:40 pm

    Militarov wrote:India requested four countries to offer fighters for its new aircraft carrier INS Vishal. Among them Rus with its MiG29K.

    Source: http://ru.euronews.com/newswires/3131371-newswire/

    Ok, what the hell is going on here, first i hear talk of navalised Rafale and now this, they already have the Mig-29K on there other carrier, why the hell would they want another aircraft for the same role (it's like the hate there logistics department) and don't give me this diverse procurement crap, that BS and you know it, anyway someone's obviously get payed under the table here. No

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:06 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:India requested four countries to offer fighters for its new aircraft carrier INS Vishal. Among them Rus with its MiG29K.

    Source: http://ru.euronews.com/newswires/3131371-newswire/

    Ok, what the hell is going on here, first i hear talk of navalised Rafale and now this, they already have the Mig-29K on there other carrier, why the hell would they want another aircraft for the same role (it's like the hate there logistics department) and don't give me this diverse procurement crap, that BS and you know it, anyway someone's obviously get payed under the table here. No

    Well, its still "offers" gathering phase. Navalised Rafale variant was mentioned long ago as an option for future carriers. Thing is they now want other choices on table too, i assume F35 (F18SP is not very likely), Dassault Rafale, MiG29K andd.... and i got no clue what the 4th country could be. China is out of the question, status of both Typhoon and Gripen deck versions are unknown...unless they count their own proposed Tejas variant as 4th "country".

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  Pinto on Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:57 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:India requested four countries to offer fighters for its new aircraft carrier INS Vishal. Among them Rus with its MiG29K.

    Source: http://ru.euronews.com/newswires/3131371-newswire/


    Ok, what the hell is going on here, first i hear talk of navalised Rafale and now this, they already have the Mig-29K on there other carrier, why the hell would they want another aircraft for the same role (it's like the hate there logistics department) and don't give me this diverse procurement crap, that BS and you know it, anyway someone's obviously get payed under the table here. No

    well the point is the second aircraft carrer "VISJAL" is being considered as CATOBAR makes the problem even more complicated. If the Mig-29 can't be modified for catapults, you may end up with a situation that requires both types, with only the IAC-I being capable of operating the two simultaneously. so lets see how things roles out in future

    moreover Mig-29Ks are only meant for Gorky and IAC-1 and its possible that CATOBAR capable aircraft will be chosen for IAC-2.This leaves Super Hornet, F-35C and Rafale-M as of now which are in active service. so SH and F35 can be ruled out as Indian never went for critical first line defense buys frm US so Rafale- N and if MIG29K can be modified for CATOBAR then its a strong contender

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:04 pm

    Pinto wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:India requested four countries to offer fighters for its new aircraft carrier INS Vishal. Among them Rus with its MiG29K.

    Source: http://ru.euronews.com/newswires/3131371-newswire/


    Ok, what the hell is going on here, first i hear talk of navalised Rafale and now this, they already have the Mig-29K on there other carrier, why the hell would they want another aircraft for the same role (it's like the hate there logistics department) and don't give me this diverse procurement crap, that BS and you know it, anyway someone's obviously get payed under the table here. No

    well the point is the second aircraft carrer "VISJAL" is being considered as CATOBAR makes the problem even more complicated. If the Mig-29 can't be modified for catapults, you may end up with a situation that requires both types, with only the IAC-I being capable of operating the two simultaneously. so lets see how things roles out in future

    moreover Mig-29Ks are only meant for Gorky and IAC-1 and its possible that  CATOBAR capable aircraft will be chosen for IAC-2.This leaves  Super Hornet, F-35C and Rafale-M as of now which are in active service. so SH and F35 can be ruled out as Indian never went for critical first line defense buys frm US so Rafale- N and if MIG29K can be modified for CATOBAR then its a strong contender

    Sure they can be modified for CATOBAR, modifications are not even that significant, thing is if India wants MiG29K or this is subtle way to pick Rafale without saying direct no to MiG.

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  medo on Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:16 pm

    I think it is good not to mix Vikrant and Vishal carriers. Vikrant will be operational in few years and there will be MiG-29K squadron together with naval Tejas, if they will be ready. But Vishal with CATOBAR will be ready somewhere between 2025 and 2030 and I think India more wish to get naval version of PAK-FA like the Russian carrier will get around 2030 than MiG-29K, which is already operational. I don't think Rafale or F/A-18 will give much difference comparing to MiG-29K. They want more modern jets like F-35 or PAK-FA.

    I don't think, that is a big problem to modify MiG-29K for catapult operations. It is only a change at the nose wheel for a hook to catch a catapult. Structure of the plane is already strong enough for arrester hook landings. Anyway catapult launch will shorten service life for MiGs comparing to STOBAR as it will have high stress at both take off and landing comparing to STOBAR, where stressful is only landing.

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    Russia willing to supply more MiG jets for INS Vishal

    Post  Pinto on Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:21 am

    In a move that will prove the resilience of the Russian machine and further strengthen the co-operation between India and Russia, MiG Russian Aircraft Corp has assured that it is ready to comply with any Indian request to supply additional MiG-29K/KUB aircraft for the in-development aircraft carrier INS Vishal of the Indian Navy.

    Anastasia Kravchenko, spokeswoman of MiG Russian Aircraft, told RIA Novosti (via R&I Report) that the company was ready to supply the aircraft in case of new proposals being put forward by the Indian Defence Ministry.

    "MiG and India's Ministry of Defence are long-term partners. We are linked by many years of successful cooperation. We would certainly be ready to supply fighter jets for the new aircraft carrier," she said. She was referring to the India's biggest aircraft carrier, INS Vishal, which is still in the design phase. INS Vishal, when ready, will be able to operate 50 aircraft.

    INS Vikramaditya, the modified Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier currently in the Indian Navy inventory, operates MiG-29K/KUB aircraft. The Indian Navy has received 23 MiG-29K/KUB aircraft and had contracted Russia to supply 29 to operate from aircraft carrier.

    Unlike INS Vikramaditya, INS Vishal is not likely to feature Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery (STOBAR) but is likely to go in for Catapult Launched But Arrest Landing (CATOBAR) and Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch Systems (EMALS) -- something that will be featured in USS Gerald R. Ford when it is commissioned in 2016.

    INS Vishal will also be a heavier with 65,000 tonnes of expected displacement and possible nuclear powered.

    Business Line reported that India has sent letter of interest to several companies including that of Russia, US, France and UK for fighter jets that will be operating from the new aircraft carrier.

    Experts have argued over diversifying carrier-based aircraft and going in for the MiG-29K/KUB as it is economically and strategically a better option. But with the Indo-US defence ties improving at a rapid phase and recent reports suggesting that India was interested in the naval version of Dassault's Rafales, India could look at the best option on the table.

    Nevertheless, MiG-29K/KUB aircraft boasts of being a "4++" multirole aircraft that is "intended air-defence missions of naval forces, air superiority gaining, sea and ground targets destruction with the high precision guided weapons day and night and in any weather conditions."

    The aircraft also has improved airframe with high composite material content, fly-by-wire flight controls with quadruple redundancy, reduced signature in radar range increased weapons load, increased internal fuel capacity and in-flight refuelling and more.

    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/russia-willing-supply-more-mig-jets-ins-vishal-664307

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    Re: Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:23 pm

    Well well, looks like i got tricked by media hype, the Vishal wont even be ready before 2025/30 and there already hyping things up, on top of that it's a CATOBAR, even so India should just modify the Migs, a lot cheaper and less headaches for both logistics and maintenance.

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    India's new aircraft carrier to get new MiG fighters

    Post  Pinto on Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:58 pm

    22 January 2016 RIA NOVOSTI

    As MiG is a long-term partner supplying specialized aircraft for the Indian armed forces, the Russian Aircraft Corporation is prepared to supply carrier-based fighter jets for India’s next aircraft carrier, the INS ‘Vishal.







    The MiG Russian Aircraft Corporation is ready to supply the required number of MiG-29K/KUB carrier-based fighter jets for India's planned new aircraft carrier, INS ‘Vishal’, if the Indian Ministry of Defence should want, said Anastasia Kravchenko, speaking for the company to RIA Novosti on Thursday.

    A day earlier, the Indian media had reported that Delhi had asked four countries for proposals on supplying fighter jets for the ‘Vishal’, which will carry more than 50 aircraft.

    "MiG and India's Ministry of Defence are long-term partners. We are linked by many years of successful cooperation. We would certainly be ready to supply fighter jets for the new aircraft carrier," said Kravchenko.

    She said that, according to experts, it would be best both strategically and economically, for the Indian Navy not to diversify its fleet of carrier-based aircraft.

    At present, MiG-29K/KUB jets are operating from another Indian aircraft carrier, the INS ‘Vikramaditya’ (formerly the ‘Admiral Gorshkov’).

    Russia is currently completing a contract (signed in 2010) to supply 29 carrier-based fighter aircraft to the Indian Navy. So far, 23 have already been delivered to the navy.

    The carrier-based MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB jets are generation "4++" multirole aircraft, designed for fleet air operations, achieving air supremacy and hitting surface targets on water and land with precision-guided weapons, by day or night, in any weather conditions.

    The aircraft have an improved airframe with a high composite material content, quadruple-redundant fly-by-wire flight controls, significantly reduced visibility in the radar spectrum, an increased fuel capacity and combat load, and open avionics architecture.

    The first flight of the prototype MiG-29KUB took place in January 2007. In 2009, MiG-29K/KUB jets successfully performed a series of test flights from the deck of the ‘Admiral Kuznetsov’, a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser. The maiden flight of the MiG-29KUB production series aircraft, built under a government defence order, took place in October 2013.

    First published in Russian by RIA Novosti.

    http://in.rbth.com/economics/defence/2016/01/22/indias-new-aircraft-carrier-to-get-new-mig-fighters_561507

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    Post  max steel on Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:50 pm

    Indian Maritime Security Strategy

    India’s quintessential maritime character and vital geo-strategic location are twin factors that have defined her growth as a nation and evolution as a cosmopolitan civilisation. Her prominent peninsular orientation and flanking island chains overlook strategic sea lanes in the Indian Ocean, linking her security and prosperity inextricably to the seas. With rugged terrain and high mountain ranges dominating her Northern borders, India finds the seas to be the primary means of extending her connectivity and trade links with her neighbourhood and the world at large. Not surprisingly, over 90% by volume and 70% by value of her external trade even today is transacted by sea.

    The last decade has witnessed India’s dependence on her maritime environment expanding substantially as her economic, military and technological strength grew, her global interactions widened and her national security imperatives and political interests stretched gradually beyond the Indian Ocean Region. There seems little doubt today that the 21st century will be the ‘Century of the Seas’ for India and that the seas will remain a key enabler in her global resurgence.

    The Indian Navy today remains the principal manifestation of India’s maritime power and plays a central role in safeguarding and promoting her security and national interests in the maritime domain. The Navy’s roles and responsibilities have also expanded significantly over the years in response to changing geo-economic and geo-strategic circumstances.

    These facts and factors were aptly reflected in the Indian Maritime Doctrine, promulgated in 2004 and revised in 2009, and the Freedom to Use the Seas: India’s Maritime Military Strategy, published in 2007. The two publications articulated the Navy’s maritime strategic outlook, defined the parameters of its employment, and provided overarching guidance for its evolution as a combat force. They, however, need periodic review to continue reflecting prevailing circumstances and remaining contemporary and relevant. Such an exercise has become necessary today owing to three significant developments of the past decade that affect India’s maritime security and the role of her Navy.

    The first is the sweeping change that the global and regional geo-strategic environment has seen during the period. The shift in worldview from a Euro-Atlantic to an Indo-Pacific focus and the repositioning of global economic and military power towards Asia has resulted in significant political, economic and social changes in the Indian Ocean Region and impacted India’s maritime environment in tangible ways.

    The second is a considerable change that India’s security-cum-threat calculus has seen during the period. In addition to persisting threats and challenges of the ‘traditional’ nature, India’s maritime security environment has become even more complex and unpredictable today with the expansion in scale and presence of a variety of ‘non-traditional’ threats. The ‘26/11’ terrorist attacks in Mumbai in 2008, for instance, demanded a re-evaluation of our security perceptions and devolved to the Navy the responsibility for India’s overall maritime security, including coastal and offshore security. This, in turn, called for a reorientation of our organisation, operating philosophy and force development plans.

    The third is a national outlook towards the seas and the maritime domain, and a clearer recognition of maritime security being a vital element of national progress and international engagement. Today, India interacts more actively with littoral states of the Indian Ocean Region and employs maritime security engagement as a cornerstone of her regional foreign policy initiatives. There is also wider acknowledgement of the role the Navy can play in strengthening and enhancing maritime security in the region.

    These developments have necessitated a revision of the Navy’s 2007 strategy and the promulgation of a follow-on edition. Titled Ensuring Secure Seas: Indian Maritime Security Strategy, this edition aims to highlight India’s contemporary maritime security considerations and reflect the incontrovertible link between secure seas and India’s resurgence in the 21st century.

    This document covers a wide canvas. It seeks to provide readers in the Indian Navy, Indian Coast Guard, other maritime agencies and Armed Forces, as well as the Government and informed public, an insight into the rationale for strengthening India’s maritime security in the coming years. It has been compiled through an iterative and inclusive process, eliciting inputs from the Indian Army, Indian Air Force, Headquarters Integrated Defence Staff, Indian Coast Guard, several defence-related ‘think tanks’, and a large number of acknowledged experts in maritime affairs within and outside the Navy.

    The document intends to provide strategic guidance for the growth, development and deployment of the Navy in the coming years, and will need review and retuning as circumstances and conditions change and evolve. I am sanguine that it will provide a useful template to guide the professional perspectives of those in the white uniform, as well as those that are associated with, or interested in, strengthening India’s maritime security in different ways in the 21st century.



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