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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:45 pm

    Actually the news of the day is the one from East Ghouta (Damascus front)

    Syrian Army Captures the Helicopter Airfield in the Strategic Marj Al-Sultan Airbase
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-captures-the-helicopter-airfield-in-the-strategic-marj-al-sultan-airbase/

    Most commentators believe that if the SAA can secure the airbase and surrounding area, the remaining enemy positions in East Ghouta will become very vulnerable / untenable






    SAA & Allies about 11 km to Taftanaz Helicopter Airbase and 18 Km to #Fuah & #Kufrayya (Shia enclaves)
    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/665863884281114624




    Taftanaz base was bombed again by the RuAF









    SAA / Hezbolah around Palmyra - short video
    Arrow https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/665846611269050368

    ATGM fired at retreating Daesh fighters (Palmyra)

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  auslander on Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:10 pm

    Security system at G20 in Turk:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaV3F6322qc

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  wilhelm on Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:22 pm

    France has just now announced it's planes are bombing targets in Raqqa.

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:45 pm

    auslander wrote:Security system at G20 in Turk:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaV3F6322qc

    Kremlin agents looking for a snack  Smile

    France has just now announced it's planes are bombing targets in Raqqa.

    Reports say 10 aircraft, which would make it their biggest one so far

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Erk on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:07 pm

    wilhelm wrote:France has just now announced it's planes are bombing targets in Raqqa.

    I hope it's in co-ordination with the SAA and RuAF efforts, else wtf are they doing?

    I really don't think much of the current French government, first the Mistral warship debacle, now bombing Syria as a US patsy, with what sort of meaningful results?

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:19 pm

    wilhelm wrote:France has just now announced it's planes are bombing targets in Raqqa.

    Did anybody believe that too?

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:22 pm

    Erk wrote:
    France has just now announced it's planes are bombing targets in Raqqa.

    ... now bombing Syria as a US patsy ...

    There is a difference between bombing something and just saying to the believers that they are bombing something.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:29 pm

    Erk wrote:
    wilhelm wrote:France has just now announced it's planes are bombing targets in Raqqa.

    I hope it's in co-ordination with the SAA and RuAF efforts, else wtf are they doing?

    I really don't think much of the current French government, first the Mistral warship debacle, now bombing Syria as a US patsy, with what sort of meaningful results?
    Seems possible but a bit of a trek. They could be flying up from the Gulf or even France, air to air refuelling gives a lot of flexibility. Or even via Incilik (sp) If it happened they were probably scheduled in as a normal but big US/NATO flight over Syria. Ten aircraft can carry quite a bombload that they can spread around.

    In our papers, with the splurge on Jihadi John getting hit by a Hellfire, there have been satellite photos of Ragga showing an undamaged building labelled ISIS HQ, which struck me as odd. Perhaps it is now rubble.

    Perhaps the gunpod camera videos will be all over the TV in France in the morning, 'proving' it. Not that we a cynical on here.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:39 pm

    The French Defence Ministry say 30 sites hit.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the ministry's Sunday statement, a command center and a training camp were destroyed in the strike which hit the ISIL stronghold of Raqqa.

    "The first target destroyed was used as a command center, a center for preparation of jihadists and an ammunition depot. The second target was a camp for training of terrorists," the statement said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151116/1030160384/french-aviation-airstrikes-isil-syria.html#ixzz3rbQ0tYmE

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:54 pm

    Those HOT on the Gazelles are now way those they bought back in 91. I don't know who sold them new ones.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:19 am

    http://tass.ru/en/politics/836631
    [size=35]Chechen leader meets with representatives of Syria’s internal opposition[/size]

    Very strong words spoken against the west, as well as Syrian opposition views on Russias stance on Syria. Looks like the opposition is pro Russian as well.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:21 am



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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:13 am

    The way NATO propaganda have been in Syria.. little by little
    bullshit , that is instead of saying.. we are going to invade Syria and overthrow Assad and give the lands of Syria to Turkey and Israel..something that naturally the world will oppose
    then what they do?

    to make it more easier for the western society of Morons,  to tolerate another NATO
    blatant and  ILLEGAL INVASION on a sovereign nation.


    They first take the decision behind doors to overthrow a government and start recruiting
    terrorist ,and also NGOs that can serve as cover of the terrorist.

    here more "repitlians" conspirancy..  Rolling Eyes

    Nothing less than the Former Foreign minister of France saying
    how he was invited personally into a meeting in UK to help them build an Army of
    jihadist fighters world wide that they were planning
    to smuggle inside Syria to overthrow Assad and destroy the country.
    This happened in 2008 2 years before the "civil war began" , and the reason for the plan
    to destroy Syria was for its anti Israel policies.  but the pipeline of natural Gas to Europe
    to bypass Russia business is the big thing ,the major reason for Syria being attacked by NATO terrorism.



    SInce 2007 NATO have been recruiting and training mercenaries for the Total destruction
    of Syria.   Shocked   oh wow..so you mean is not a civil war as everyone belief and instead
    a real NATO army of mercenaries invasion with a lot of local extremist syrian support ,what Syria face?   Cool

    The Syrian War is the major Fraud in the history of the human civilization. after the fraud of 9/11 of course. and not mentioning another thing also to not go beyond topic.  
    Is the major inhuman aggression even done to another nation since the invasion of Nazis
    in the soviet union..and since the Armenian genocide by Turkey. and is not worse yet..because
    Russia have stop it.. otherwise ISIS will conquer Syria and IRAQ and Yemen and later NATO use them,as a private army to hit Russia in the ukrainian/georgian front capture Crimea back and Donetsk and Lugansk and incite terror in the caucasus.. yes they are that evil. NATO ,which is a proxy army of Americans Imperialism and ISrael is a terrorist organization worse than ISIS and Alqaeda combined and anyone defending them should be ashamed of themselves.  Today they
    are threatening Russia with a nuclear war.

    after they have taken the decision to overthrow Syria this is what they did..
    Little by little attacks on Syria.

    in 2011 they first claimed it was peaceful protestors ,civilians that Assad was
    bombing because they wanted western "freedom".   Rolling Eyes

    1)First they will announce providing non lethal help to Government opposition in Syria
      Food and bullet proof vest.. and communication so they coordinate better the rescue of
    people.

    2)Second they talk about the possibility of arming the "rebels" with light weapons
    so they can defend people protesting attacked by Assad army .but that under no circustance
    there will be boots on the ground.

    3)third they do it ,provide light weapons but they claim that is ONly to few Rebels they trust to protect civilians..

    4)they talk about possibility of training a  hundred of rebels to defend civilians and fight
    extremist.  
    5)They officially announce to start to do it.
    6)They talk about posibility of no fly *small* zones ,buffer zones..to "protect civilians"
    7)they move air defenses close to Syran Borders "to protect refugees" on turkey side.
    8)third they claim Syria violated their airspace and will start shooting down their planes
    that cross the border ( but in reality do it inside Syria border)
    9)they create a fleet of fake armored ambulances and claim will use them to enter in Syria
    to "REscue wounded civilians" and send them to Hospitals . in reality is to smuggle terrorist.
    10) After they finish training their thousands of "rebels".. give them weapons and with the help of NATO special forces ,Turkey army ,Turkey artillery and its air defenses they enter in Syria and capture IDLIB.
    11)then now they organize a false flag terror attack in France and claim Syria is to blame for it..
    they go send 10 planes to Raqqa to "bomb ISIS"

    what is next?
    12) they will claim some success in their bombing in ISIS in Raqqa but that now they are moving in mass to Aleppo  and that France will now bomb them there.   Wink

    What in reality happens behind the scenes they coordinate with ISIS  to move to ALeppo and ask the Kurds to move to raqqa and take the city for them. In all this NATO will bomb empty places and film it in camera for more realism ,to fool people they are "fighting terrorism".

    And then repeat again the same.. Ask ISIS to move from ALeppo to Idlib and later to LAtakia and tell Kurds take the cities that ISIS leave. So if all the circus is done right.. NATO could film lots of videos they "bombing cities" and reporting how "ISIS are leaving in masses in Syria"

    Then they ask ISIS to move to Latakia country side and then NATO justify their bombing in latakia and troops on the ground in Latakia.. effectively blocking Russia from any movement beyond the military base because NATO is bombing there.  This is what could happen if Russia allows NATO to play their fraudulent games. And if they find difficult for ISIS to continue in latakia,they ask the kurds to move to Latakia country side and ISIS to leave to Turkey..

    So effectively the game is First ISIS/moderate terrorist take a city ,then Kurds Take
    it from ISIS. and later Turkey takes it from Kurds. Wink  

    Under the pretext that Kurds are attacking turkey ,then Turkey invades Northern Syria all taken
    by kurds that nato placed there. The ISIS is relocated to Jordan ,Israel and start attacking Syria from the east and south.. if they provoke a civil war in lebanon NATO can use ISIS to attack Syria from the lebanon border.

    All this kurds thing came into play only after the failed no fly zone ,after the False Flag
    Chemical attack by Turkey in Syria. where terrorist were provided by Turkey chemical weapons.
    and later blamed on Assad.

    So this is the dirty games NATO playing.. They want to overthrow Assad and divide Syria in several parts..under the pretext of "ending the civil war" , and if Assad or Russia allows this. Syria will disband ,and turned into another Palestinian failed state. That have no policies and controls nothing in their own land.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:41 am

    Vann,

    I think most posters here are aware of the behind the door conspiracies and the justification used to destroy Syria...no need to flood the thread with pages and pages of text.

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    Rhetoric before and after you learn that France just carried out airstrikes in Raqqa, Syria. Laughing
    https://twitter.com/yurybarmin/status/666001680597651456

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    Tadmor - near Palmyra...looks like a large scale operation

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:37 am

    Holy Freudian Slip, Davutoğlu admits that he supported Jabat al Nusra Front, then quickly changes his answer when he realized what he said:

    BBC interview clip with Davutoğlu

    https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/666015392943489027

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:39 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Holy Freudian Slip, Davutoğlu admits that he supported Jabat al Nusra Front, then quickly changes his answer when he realized what he said:

    BBC interview clip with Davutoğlu

    https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/666015392943489027

    right there with 360° with Isis.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:46 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Holy Freudian Slip, Davutoğlu admits that he supported Jabat al Nusra Front, then quickly changes his answer when he realized what he said:

    BBC interview clip with Davutoğlu

    https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/666015392943489027

    right there with 360° with Isis.

    It's no secret that Davutoğlu isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, though a tool nonetheless, he's made his fair share of similar Freudian slips...too often to be mere coincidence...in fact I shouldn't beat around the bush here, that jackass has supported every terror death squad you could think of within Syrian borders.

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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:45 am

    People can learn a lot by watching western Jewish elite top media ,
    how they report things about Syria..

    In the last video of VICE news.. No longer they hide the fact
    that there are no Moderates in Syria. They instead the map of Syria
    they divide it between Alqaeda alnusra and ISIS.
    Alqaeda in eastern Syria and ISIS in western Syria.

    With the last video of the CIA-VICE propaganda. The new white house
    /pentagon/CIA narrative in their financed media is..



    1)Alnusra is the new Alqaeda growing in Syria
    2)Many Childrens are being trained to become terrorist
    3)they are all teach to hate America and call for jihad against America.
    4)They all sing songs praising Bin landen and claiming that Syria will be the
       graveyard of Americans.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPY0X8SrLo


    Did anyone see where this is going?

    Essentially the US government media is now creating the conditions to justify
    US declaration of war against Syria..because terrorist are praising bin laden and
    saying that Syria will wipe Americans.  

    All this suggest to me.. that a new Terrorist Attack.. a false Flag/inside job attack
    ,similar to France or Worse ,will happen in USA and ,possibly in next days or weeks. and that Alqaeda alnusra will be blamed  for it ,after they find a lucky "passport" that will survive by miracle any terrorist attack  and it will point to Syrian jihadist Syria -Idlib.  

    and that US government will use this fake terrorist attack done by them..to justify and military
    ground intervention and boots on the ground ,major operations. But for a big scale army operation the terrorist attack will have to be bigger than France.  All this makes sense.. don't
    be surprised how US Gov will use a false flag soon to justify a NATO invasion on Syria...
    They cannot remove Russia from there..but they can attempt to block Russia airstrikes by using civilians and NATO soldiers as a shield.

    So effectively US controlled media shows that US new policy will abandon the moderates propanda.. and now will use the Alqaeda presence in Idlib ,confirmed by VICE , and a
    false flag they will do ..to justify a major military invasion on Syria.

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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:44 am

    In more news.. the Rebels are receiving "ALAH help" and now they reporting
    they are making their own medium range air defenses.. in the middle of a war zone
    perhaps using refrigerator or tv electronics.. lol1


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6DJFfSM6Dw


    Now anyone who believe for a second that the rebel have any capability
    to make air defenses ,hack computers or build drones in the middle of a warzone
    while being bombed day and night ,without any scientific laboratory.. in non sense.
    "Rebels home made" air defenses are nothing more than NATO weapons hardware
    supplied to them ,that they could do it. in such primitive way that could "appear to be home made". but a quick inspection to the missile will reveal and Israeli or NATO short range missile.
    with a fake appearance to make it look the rebels did it.   Wink

    In other words it looks like NATO or ISrael are supplying the Rebels with advanced air defense
    missiles that could target planes at beyond 10,000 m..but that the hardware is done with such
    appearance,using home made materials, to deceive anyone who capture it ,on the surface
    that it was home made..

    Question like from where they building the sensors of the warhead of the missile?
    how the guide the missile ,aiming with their dicks? or yelling Alah wakbar in the direction of the plane? the fuel of the missile how the hell they can build special fuel for the rocket without a Scientist laboratory? how can they mass produce the missiles? Wink  

    A million of questions show up that will uncover the fact that they are being helped
    by the west to create air defenses ,even if primitive ,that could allow them target planes
    beyond 10km.

    Russia is now saying Rebels using Mustard Gas in Syria.. from where they got such a weapon?
    You can't build mustard gas in a war zone ,by just mixing sand with gasoline ,again you need
    a Military grade laboratory and foreign nations help that not many nations have. IRAQ chemical weapons for example was provided by USA.. to use it against IRAN. So it clearly looks to me
    that we will see more and more Sophisticated weapons in the hand of terrorist...that is NATO and Israeli advanced weapons ,but using a different package ,cover with kitchen made things
    so that if Syrian army capture the weapons.. it will look on the surface like home made weapons
    but internally it will have NATO level electronics and Chemicals.

    So my prediction is that we will see more and more desperation of US and its allies over Syria
    and they could see them perfectly capable of providing them with nuclear warheads in suitcases.. that by "mistake" rebels capture from Europe and ends in Syria in their hands.
    so Russia will have no way to know which NATO country supplied the nukes to them.

    What happens in Syria is a 100% NATO war against Russia.. though Syria.

    And with RUssia pretending that US ,Turkey and Israel and Gulf Allies are not in an undeclared war against them..

    So Russia is playing the proxy war game with US.. Russia in the defense and US in the offense.
    and this is done by Russia to avoid the other alternative that will a world war 3 ,with nuclear weapons ,specially after the Russian plane shutdown in Eygpt with 300 russians ,that many reports suggest Israel and Saudi Arabia with US and UK support did it.  If the president of Russia was stalin long time ago we will be in a world war..with nukes landing in US cities and in Russia..because not many leaders can play such political games like Putin.. not many have the patience that Putin have after being attacked in hopes the enemy will stop fighting them.
    if they play well with politics.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Erk on Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:21 am

    Vann7 wrote:In more news.. the Rebels are receiving "ALAH help" and now they reporting
    they are making their own medium range air defenses.. in the middle of a war zone
    perhaps using refrigerator or tv electronics.. lol1


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6DJFfSM6Dw
    .

    It's obviously a fake, listen to the sound, the thing it tiny, probably an non-guided rocket of some sorts.



    Looks like crap. Leftovers from a Hamas pipe rocket.


    Have a listen to a real SAM launch.


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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:26 am



    Hezbolah conversation with a western backed jihadist about the games being played by Israel in Syria and they drop their weapons.. Smile


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:40 pm

    Latakia:

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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:35 pm

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    Syrian Army Pummels Terrorist Positions Following Russian Air Assaults

    Russia's air campaign against the Islamic State in Syria added significantly to the Syrian Army's offensive on many fronts in the past 24 hours, media reports said.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151116/1030193347/syria-russia-army-offensive.html

    Russian air strikes on Islamic State targets in Syria paved the way for the Syrian Army, which inflicted heavy casualties on different militant groups acting in Aleppo, Dara'a, Damascus, Homs, Sweida and Lattakia over the past 24 hours.

    In Syria's second-largest city of Aleppo, an ISIL convoy loaded with weapons and ammunition was destroyed in an attack by the Syrian Army.

    In a separate development, Syrian forces reportedly carried out a new round of offensives against the strongholds of two terrorist groups, the al-Nusra Front and Jeish al-Mujaheddin, in the northern countryside of Aleppo province.

    In the province of Dara'a, at least 37 terrorists were killed in an array of attacks on militant groups conducted by the Syrian Army, the National Defense Forces and Hezbollah fighters.

    Also, the Syrian Army advanced on the militant groups' defense lines in al-Ghizlan Farm and the town of al-Ghariya al-Sharqiya, with dozens of terrorists reportedly being killed or injured.

    In a major breakthrough, the Syrian Army completely drove militant groups away from Marj al-Sultan Airbase and its surroundings in the eastern suburbs of the capital Damascus on Sunday. This became the army's second major victory after lifting the ISIL siege of Kuweires airbase early last week.

    Additionally, scores of militants were killed in the Syrian provinces of Homs and Sweida. In was reported that Russian helicopters destroyed Islamic State positions near the city of Palmyra in Homs, killing dozens of Takfiri terrorists.

    On September 30, more than fifty Russian aircraft, including Su-24M, Su-25 and Su-34 warplanes, commenced precision airstrikes on Islamic State targets in Syria at the behest of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Earlier that day, the Russian upper house of parliament unanimously supported the request of President Vladimir Putin to deploy units of the Russian Aerospace Forces abroad.

    Syrian Ambassador to Russia Riad Haddad confirmed that Syrian Army strikes, supported by the Russian Aerospace Forces, were being carried out against armed terrorist organizations, not political opposition factions or civilians.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  ultron on Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:56 pm

    Vann7 wrote:So Russia is playing the proxy war game with US.. Russia in the defense and US in the offense.
    and this is done by Russia to avoid the other alternative that will a world war 3 ,with nuclear weapons ,specially after the Russian plane shutdown in Eygpt with 300 russians ,that many reports suggest Israel and Saudi Arabia with US and UK support did it.  If the president of Russia was stalin long time ago we will be in a world war..with nukes landing in US cities and in Russia..because not many leaders can play such political games like Putin.. not many have the patience that Putin have after being attacked in hopes the enemy will stop fighting them.
    if they play well with politics.

    I disagree nukes will be used. These days it's all about insurgency, capture of cities. If the US is to fight Russia, it will be through a US backed insurgency in Russia itself. Russia cannot use nukes on its own cities. It will become much like a Syria scenario where insurgents take over cities, hold civilians hostage, forcing the Russian military to fight in the cities in a brutal house to house fashion.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:53 pm

    A bit about the legality of foreign intervention. This is the last part of the article

    However, if even more concrete proof emerges that the French attacks were masterminded and directed from inside ISIL bases in Syria, NATO states would still face more international legal hurdles over the question of increased military intervention, principally because ISIL is not considered to be a legitimate state.

    In similar international law cases against non-legitimate states, the right to self-defense has been ruled to be unlawful.

    This was demonstrated in a 2004 International Court of Justice decision, which ruled that Israel's construction of a security wall in the Palestinian territories was illegal, as self-defense clauses could only be invoked against states, and Israel hadn't recognized Palestinian statehood. The precedent also opens up many questions about the legality of the US-led international coalition's current fight against ISIL positions in Syria.

    While the US, France and other countries have justified their decision to bomb ISIL targets in Syria based on threats to national security, the fact that many states haven't sought the approval of Bashar al-Assad's Syrian government raises more legal questions.

    The issue of legality is also central to the ISIL debate in the UK, with lawmakers — seemingly still affected by the illegal Iraq invasion of 2003 — unwilling to ratify a military campaign in Syria without UN approval.

    While the West has criticized Russia's intervention in Syria in recent times, officials in Moscow point out that unlike the legal uncertainties surrounding the US-led anti-ISIL campaign, Russia has clearly adhered to international law, by becoming involved in Syria following a request from Damascus.

    So, despite many agreeing with Hollande that the weekend's tragic events need to be dealt with mercilessly, it seems there are still many legal questions as to whether the West can wage all out war against ISIL.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151116/1030190121/isil-syria-intervention-legality.html#ixzz3rfrPsq8a

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