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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:24 pm

    The ICARDO hill is now under SAA control. Southern Aleppo countryside is now cut from north Aleppo.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:04 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Gius, will we see Russian boots on the ground?

    IF Morak was defended by a VDV battalion, the entire thing would be a bloodbath for jihadists, not a debacle for SAA.

    No we won't, especially now when SAA is tearing s**t up...

    Boots on the ground in mid-east always end up in quagmire.
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:34 pm

    auslander wrote:Once they understood where I live and such the conversations, off the record of course, were interesting.

    I know it's off-topic, but I'm interested which way those conversations went.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:39 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Gius, will we see Russian boots on the ground?

    IF Morak was defended by a VDV battalion, the entire thing would be a bloodbath for jihadists, not a debacle for SAA.

    No we won't, especially now when SAA is tearing s**t up...

    Boots on the ground in mid-east always end up in quagmire.
    There are already two battalion-sized RU forces in Syria - detach a company from one of them and embed it with the Tiger forces/Republican Guard. After a week of combat - detach it and replace with another company.
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    Post  ult on Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:33 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    There are already two battalion-sized RU forces in Syria - detach a company from one of them and embed it with the Tiger forces/Republican Guard. After a week of combat - detach it and replace with another company.

    We should send you instead and leave you there.
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    Post  iraqidabab on Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:37 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Gius, will we see Russian boots on the ground?

    IF Morak was defended by a VDV battalion, the entire thing would be a bloodbath for jihadists, not a debacle for SAA.

    No we won't, especially now when SAA is tearing s**t up...

    Boots on the ground in mid-east always end up in quagmire.
    There are already two battalion-sized RU forces in Syria - detach a company from one of them and embed it with the Tiger forces/Republican Guard. After a week of combat - detach it and replace with another company.

    There's always the option of forward air controller and front line advisor whilst staying out of direct contact, actually the risks of that don't go that much further then how pilots are flying MI-24's now.
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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:46 pm

    The US accepting the new reality

    The United States does not believe the time is right to establish a safe zone or a no-fly zone on Turkey's border with Syria, Operation Inherent Resolve spokesperson Colonel Steven Warren told reporters on Friday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — On October 5, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan proposed a no-fly zone and a safe zone, as well as increased training and equipment for Free Syrian Army (FSA) fighters to decrease the high numbers of Syrians fleeing to Europe and other states.

    Previously, Turkey proposed a buffer zone in northern Syria, but the United States and NATO did not support the initiative.

    "Right now, we believe is not the right time for a safe zone or a no-fly zone," Warren said when asked about establishing a safe zone on the Syrian-Turkish border.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151113/1030059309/pentagon-safe-zone-turkey-syria.html#ixzz3rOpl71hB
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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:49 pm

    Assume they will get to Syria by overflying Turkey but this will lead to interesting air to air confusion.

    PARIS (Sputnik) — French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle will leave its Toulon homeport on November 18, heading to the Middle East to conduct airstrikes against Islamic State, French government spokesman Stephane Le Foll said on Friday. "The combat unit will leave Toulon in a few days, on November 18, reaching the Persian Gulf by mid-December," Le Foll told France's BFMTV television channel.

    Earlier this month, the French presidential office announced that Paris would send a naval task force led by the Charles de Gaulle, a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, in support of military operations against Islamic State militants.

    The French aircraft carrier was previously deployed in February to the Persian Gulf to back military operations against the extremists, Eduardo Rihan Cypel, a member of the French National Defense and Armed Forces Committee told Sputnik.

    France is part of a US-led international coalition bombing Islamic State positions in Iraq an Syria.


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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:51 am

    Monarchist wrote:They have taken Tell Hadya, Banes, Rasm Sahrij, and are now 1 km away from cutting the Hama - Aleppo highway.
    Basically the iranians and iraqis are bulldozing over the wahabists. Smile


    If they are 1 km away of the highway is effectively cut already. with just 1km distance any anti tank missile with thermobaric warhead,heavy machine gun ,mortar or artillery can easily do
    shooting gallery with any jihadist supply convoy.  If they continue at the same speed ,they could be reaching the eastern IDLIB front in a week.. and then Russian soldiers or volunteers guarding the base if they want it..could be moved easily to the western front. to keep the terrorist split in two fronts .. Cool


    In more news.. A new "Terrorist attack" in Paris.. just happened.. with  more than 100 people
    killed.. guess who will be blamed for the attack? and what will be France response to the attack? Rolling Eyes

    Of course is all about Syria.. a false flag created to justify any harsh retaliation to "ISIS"
    in Syria.. the goal could easily be to create/justify a NATO/France/Turkey "SAfe zone" in Syria and not allow Syrian army and Russia to cut the supply lines to ISIS. It looks like hollande but also Erdogan are really scared at the idea of Syria defeating their terrorist and later when all investigations done all refugees interviewed and a major trial about the warcrimes in Syria , that Both France and Turkey will have to face major legal actions for their attempts to overthrow
    the Syrian Government.  many will say the chances of that happening now is zero..but in 5 years or 10.. you will not know who will be in power in those countries.

    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151114/1030072379/paris-attack-updates.html

    Just wait and see how France will blame ISIS for it..and then will use the event to justify
    a military invasion of Syria with Turkey and US troops or the creation of a safe zone to save their ISIS and Alqaeda bussies from total defeat. No
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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:26 am

    There was some time ago a video of SAA tanks evacuading civilians from a city in busses. The tanks have covered busses escape from the terrorist infested part of the city.

    Can someone post the video or help find it?
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:39 am

    hi, with the current gains being made i was wanting to know peoples views on on whats likely to happen next and and whats likely to happen in other regions.


    • Aleppo region North/East/South/West


    • Idlib


    • Latakia


    • Hama


    • Homs


    • Damascus city and region


    • Deir ez-Zor


    • the south of the country Quneitra, Daraa, As-Suwayda regions


    as for al-Hasakah and Al Raqqah these areas are pretty much out of SAA hands for now.

    i am actually surprised that the area north of Homs city still has been liberated,
    being totally enclosed and with Russian and Iranian support you would think it would be taken fairly easily, as once this area has been taken care of this would free up troops to focus on the east and south east area of the Homs region to beat back ISIS.

    hopefully now the highway between Aleppo and Idlib being cut this will cut supplies and hopefully areas north and north west of Hama region can be fully taken.

    I wonder if the advance in southern Aleppo will now head towards Abu Al Duhur airbase currently controlled by the FSA etc.
    once they have fully secured a bigger section of the Aleppo/Idlib highway.
    Or will they continue to try and cut other main roads by aiming to take the following towns- Atarib, Sarmada, and take the Bab al Hawa crossing point with Turkey, although this could prove difficult to secure and maintain as this would mean assaults against a thin strip of SAA controlled area from both north and south and no doubt skirmishes at the crossing point and Turkish intervention.

    In Latakia they(SAA) really need to up there game as this region needs to be secured Asap, if there is to be negotiations for a possible solution which i am guessing will happen then the more areas the SAA have the better position they are in.

    As for Deir ez Zor i think its just a waiting game here and the idea is to hold on to what the SAA already have and defend which they seem to be doing good at, it doesn't make sense to over stretch in an area which concentrated in ISIS that have good supply lines, and the ISIS scum want to keep throwing bodies to the slaughter at the SAA defences then so be it. I think eventually once eastern regions of Hama and Homs are secure especially Palmyra and the supplies are connected to Deir Ez Zor then you won't see any advancement in Deir Ez Zor region.

    And finally  the South of the country i think this will also be a waiting game neither side has made any gains i think once Homs, Hama, Latakia, Damascus, and southern Aleppo have been fully liberated you might towns in the south might just start to give up especially in isolated or less strategic areas, bearing mind the south terrorists areas are effectively in two parts if you look at it on a map they are on either side Daraa City. The following areas could be liberated fairly easy with the help of Russian air force, Iranian and Hezbollah etc troops

    - North eastern area of As-Suwayda currently under ISIS control.

    - the area North of Izra the rebels there are totally enclosed in 14 villages/towns

    - Quneitra region could and also be taken sealing of a fair chunk of the border with Israel.

    - another area worth mentioning which is actually in Damascus region but sits just north of the southern regions is the area around the town Beit Saber  yet again another area which could easily be taken within a week with the correct support and would also free up some troops once taken. The terrorists here and totally enclosed within 6-8 villages/towns, and easy win and further more demoralising the terrorists.

    I think the main plan is to secure as many strategic areas, and Highways as possible and the hope is that the rebels will have no choice but to come to the negotiating table, and the Syrian government knows that once things start to look seriously bleak for the terrorists that the smaller groups and isolated areas will give up without any bloodshed. But in some respects its also a land grab war, the more land you the better negotiating leverage you have. When the terrorists hear that another village has been taken regardless if its strategic or not this dents their hopes of taken over Syria and they will start to think is this all worth it, we cant win this anymore this is when the moral nosedives and people start to give up arms and before you know it another village of terrorists has given up and it starts to snowball Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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    Post  par far on Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:50 am

    With the Paris attacks, do you guys think that NATO will try to intervene in Syria and try to pull their dirty tricks?
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    Post  auslander on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:45 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    auslander wrote:Once they understood where I live and such the conversations, off the record of course, were interesting.

    I know it's off-topic, but I'm interested which way those conversations went.

    I will write up an AAR of my findings when my health improves a bit more. I'm doing much better but the twice daily treatments including the meds still keep me a bit farther from lucidity then usual. At least they come to me, I don't go to them on the other side of the ditch and I can walk now generally without assistance.
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    Post  auslander on Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:06 am

    par far wrote:With the Paris attacks, do you guys think that NATO will try to intervene in Syria and try to pull their dirty tricks?

    Yes.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:22 am

    auslander wrote:
    par far wrote:With the Paris attacks, do you guys think that NATO will try to intervene in Syria and try to pull their dirty tricks?

    Yes.

    Will be interesting if they try to do it.  Doubt they will actually achieve what they want.
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    Post  auslander on Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:14 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    par far wrote:With the Paris attacks, do you guys think that NATO will try to intervene in Syria and try to pull their dirty tricks?

    Yes.

    Will be interesting if they try to do it.  Doubt they will actually achieve what they want.

    They may well achieve their goal, which is to stop the RuAF campaign which is having a huge affect on the Syrian war.

    In my estimation EU died last night in Paris. The corpse may kick for a while but to all intents and purposes it's dead.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:27 am

    auslander wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    par far wrote:With the Paris attacks, do you guys think that NATO will try to intervene in Syria and try to pull their dirty tricks?

    Yes.

    Will be interesting if they try to do it.  Doubt they will actually achieve what they want.

    They may well achieve their goal, which is to stop the RuAF campaign which is having a huge affect on the Syrian war.

    In my estimation EU died last night in Paris. The corpse may kick for a while but to all intents and purposes it's dead.

    I doubt it.  I doubt Russia will simply back down and state that France's operations are against ISIS and that is it.  It would be nearly impossible for France to justify attacking Assad over this.  They wont achieve this, France's air capabilities lack compared to Russia and that is pretty much well known.

    They may try to beat the war drums over this, but as soon as Russia makes a firm stand, France will back down.  Don't forget, Russia did indeed state they moved air defense assets to Syria as well as having a navy operating quite close with also air defense assets.  In coming days, they could also move more Su-30's or even some Su-35's as an example to provide assistance.  France wont do crap.
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    Post  auslander on Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:11 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    par far wrote:With the Paris attacks, do you guys think that NATO will try to intervene in Syria and try to pull their dirty tricks?

    Yes.

    Will be interesting if they try to do it.  Doubt they will actually achieve what they want.

    They may well achieve their goal, which is to stop the RuAF campaign which is having a huge affect on the Syrian war.

    In my estimation EU died last night in Paris. The corpse may kick for a while but to all intents and purposes it's dead.

    I doubt it.  I doubt Russia will simply back down and state that France's operations are against ISIS and that is it.  It would be nearly impossible for France to justify attacking Assad over this.  They wont achieve this, France's air capabilities lack compared to Russia and that is pretty much well known.

    They may try to beat the war drums over this, but as soon as Russia makes a firm stand, France will back down.  Don't forget, Russia did indeed state they moved air defense assets to Syria as well as having a navy operating quite close with also air defense assets.  In coming days, they could also move more Su-30's or even some Su-35's as an example to provide assistance.  France wont do crap.

    It's not France or Germany I'm worried about, it's 'NATO', read US. They just won't stop but I stand by my opinion, EU died last night. Fear will bring back strong border controls and control of border passage all over EU and the associates.

    What urinates me off is we lost thousands up north to concerted terror attacks from the orcs and EU/UN/OSCE/US/OLSC saw nothing and didn't give a rat's butt. While I have the utmost sympathy for the innocent victims, as entities the aforementioned just got a dose of what they, zero doubt, started. In spades. As grandma used to say, choke on it, they deserve it.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:23 am

    Agreed.
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:20 am

    auslander wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    par far wrote:With the Paris attacks, do you guys think that NATO will try to intervene in Syria and try to pull their dirty tricks?

    Yes.

    Will be interesting if they try to do it.  Doubt they will actually achieve what they want.

    They may well achieve their goal, which is to stop the RuAF campaign which is having a huge affect on the Syrian war.

    In my estimation EU died last night in Paris. The corpse may kick for a while but to all intents and purposes it's dead.

    I doubt it.  I doubt Russia will simply back down and state that France's operations are against ISIS and that is it.  It would be nearly impossible for France to justify attacking Assad over this.  They wont achieve this, France's air capabilities lack compared to Russia and that is pretty much well known.

    They may try to beat the war drums over this, but as soon as Russia makes a firm stand, France will back down.  Don't forget, Russia did indeed state they moved air defense assets to Syria as well as having a navy operating quite close with also air defense assets.  In coming days, they could also move more Su-30's or even some Su-35's as an example to provide assistance.  France wont do crap.

    It's not France or Germany I'm worried about, it's 'NATO', read US. They just won't stop but I stand by my opinion, EU died last night. Fear will bring back strong border controls and control of border passage all over EU and the associates.

    What urinates me off is we lost thousands up north to concerted terror attacks from the orcs and EU/UN/OSCE/US/OLSC saw nothing and didn't give a rat's butt. While I have the utmost sympathy for the innocent victims, as entities the aforementioned just got a dose of what they, zero doubt, started. In spades. As grandma used to say, choke on it, they deserve it.


    All this terror goes back to 9/11 WTC.  Russia made a mistake to keep silence and not
    tell the truth that the attacks were an inside job by the American Government. The same factions who did 9/11 in WTC and the same factions now attacking Syria. that is the angloszionist globalist mafia from Republicans and democrats party. About 90% of the US government senate and congress is entirely corrupt and they are the ones supporting the arm of Alqaeda and ISIS in Syria to overthrow Assad.  I really don't think that there is any future for that country as long as AMericans do not start a revolution. The elite who was behind 9/11 and who also support US Global Empire project and the destruction of any nation not aligned with their global agendas . I don't think the Wallstreet ,US defense Industry ,the Jewish zionist elite and Federal Reserve,will allow a true democratic government to come into power that will later put them in jail for their crimes.  So im skeptics of any election there , and Donald Trumph even
    though he says the right things always ,how he will get along Putin and RUssia .. just like Obama and the Hitlery Clinton promised CHANGE in big letters and a policy of dialogue ,and not of wars but totally changed 180 degrees after the first year in power.  




    What is interesting in all this is that it looks it was all planned.
    Before the Arab Spring began Hitlery clinton visited Lybia ,and kerry visisted Syria..and
    they demanded from Lybia and Syria to release political prisoners ,that later by coincidence became the leaders of the US financed Revolutions in their countries. Neutral

    And through turkey journalist ,who were in Syria with Hitlery Clinton visit to Assad.. he
    witness how she demanded ****a day earlier**** that the uprising began in Syria that Assad
    had to make peace with Israel ,give up territorial claims with Golen heighsts , leave friendship with IRAN ,and no longer support herzbolah , allow the muslin brotherhood (a terror organization who tried to overthrow the Father of Assad before) to be in Power as prime minister, and in parliament too. and accept US protection (means allow US military bases in the country).. in Change for being a member of their club of friends.  Assad refused such blatant and hostile blackmail to their sovereign nation and the next day the protest for "freedom"began.
    in Syria.

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:23 am

    ult wrote:SAA training in Latakia province.


    Lots of new toys courtesy of the Syrian Express.

    The video says it's a new formed unit undergoing training....we'll probably see more of this in the coming few weeks

    #Latakia: PHOTOS: Probably newly delievered batch of 2S1 Gvozdika's (no #SAA markings on them and fresh paint)
    https://twitter.com/2Rook14/status/665403110806933504
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    Post  max steel on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:26 am

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/world/middleeast/syria-war-developments.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0


    France attacks paved way for Hollande to recognise syrian rebels new coalition as legitimate opposition in Syria.
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    Post  Siempre_Leal on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:30 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    ult wrote:SAA training in Latakia province.


    Lots of new toys courtesy of the Syrian Express.

    The video says it's a new formed unit undergoing training....we'll probably see more of this in the coming few weeks

    can anybody try and ID what the soldiers are trying to assemble at 2:08?
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    Post  Siempre_Leal on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:31 am

    max steel wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/world/middleeast/syria-war-developments.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0


    France attacks paved way for Hollande to recognise syrian rebels new coalition as legitimate opposition in Syria.

    this article is from 2012, Nov 13 though.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:51 am

    Siempre_Leal wrote:can anybody try and ID what the soldiers are trying to assemble at 2:08?

    NSV Machine Gun ?

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