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    Syrian Civil War: News #3

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:10 pm

    Siege of Kweires will surely be studied by military historians for years to come.
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    Post  Dima Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:17 pm

    Breaking the siege on Kweires airbase is a very significant victory.thumbsup

    Kuweires this might become the staging ground for an eastern, northern and western offensive. It remains to be seen how soon the attack choppers start getting based in the airbase and support the advancing units.

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/cheetah-forces-lift-the-three-year-long-siege-of-the-kuweires-military-airbase/

    Cheetah Forces Lift the Three Year Long Siege of the Kuweires Military Airbase

    According to a military source from the Syrian Arab Army, the total number of casualties for the Syrian Armed Forces from this Kuweires Military Airport offensive was 57 soldiers, with another 200+ wounded-in-action (WIA) – ISIS’ casualties could not be verified, but it is likely much higher than the Syrian Armed Forces’ death toll.

    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1 Nov 9
    #Syria #Aleppo #Tiger_Force Commander for the "Fahad Group 6 Storming Group" was martyred liberating #Sheikh_Ahmed
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 CTYoGS7XAAAgh5O Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 CTYoGRRWwAUzsj9

    RIP fallen bravehearts.
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    Post  Dima Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:24 pm

    battlefield maps
    Peto Lucem ‏@PetoLucem 1h1 hour ago

    NEW MAP: After 3 years, #SAA was finally able to break #IslamicState siege of  #Kuweyres airbase. #Aleppo #Syria
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 CTdqlRsWoAEMKr1

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 SE-Aleppo-10-Nov-2015

    Its good to see the SAA advancing along the lake in parallel. We might in coming week see a much wider area along the lake with SAA and probably a spearhead arising from this line to Raqqaa before year-end.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:30 pm

    Dima wrote:..................................
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 SE-Aleppo-10-Nov-2015

    Its good to see the SAA advancing along the lake in parallel. We might in coming week see a much wider area along the lake with SAA and probably a spearhead arising from this line to Raqqaa before year-end.

    Lousy day at work but this news made it all better. thumbsup

    Right now every jihadi inbred will be charging to cut that line off, target rich environment for VKS.

    Still a thin line, caution above all else is my tip...
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    Post  medo Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:32 pm

    Dima wrote:battlefield maps
    Peto Lucem ‏@PetoLucem 1h1 hour ago

    NEW MAP: After 3 years, #SAA was finally able to break #IslamicState siege of  #Kuweyres airbase. #Aleppo #Syria
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 CTdqlRsWoAEMKr1

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 SE-Aleppo-10-Nov-2015

    Its good to see the SAA advancing along the lake in parallel. We might in coming week see a much wider area along the lake with SAA and probably a spearhead arising from this line to Raqqaa before year-end.

    Actually it will be better to push in northeast to reach Kurds and cut ISIL from Turkey.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:34 pm


    Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT 5h5 hours ago Syria

    https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/664093642450149376

    Leader of Ahrar al-Sham, jihadist group behind civilian massacre in #latakia, recently wrote for Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-deadly-consequences-of-mislabeling-syrias-revolutionaries/2015/07/10/6dec139e-266e-11e5-aae2-6c4f59b050aa_story.html


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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:42 pm


    According to this SAA has started receiving Tochkas from Russia. Good news if true and Russian Army is retiring these from service so win-win. thumbsup

    http://charly015.blogspot.rs/2015/11/misiles-tochka-en-siria.html

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:50 pm


    Poor YahooNews, they kept publishing denials for hours but they finally had to cave in 30 minutes ago... lol1

    "Syrian army breaks IS siege of key Aleppo air base"

    http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-army-breaks-siege-key-aleppo-air-afp-161628136.html
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    Post  iraqidabab Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:54 pm

    A group of soldiers penetrated IS lines west of the airport and reached government troops inside the base, firing into the air in celebration.

    --

    Even during wartime middle eastern people use gunfire to celebrate things wasting ammo.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:07 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    According to this SAA has started receiving Tochkas from Russia. Good news if true and Russian Army is retiring these from service so win-win. thumbsup

    http://charly015.blogspot.rs/2015/11/misiles-tochka-en-siria.html


    nah nah nah, you got it wrong, Syria had tochkas and sold them to Yemen or so wrote some motherf**** from Nato Digest.

    Those OTR's going to ruin many moderate lives. respekt
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:53 pm

    ISIS Mass Retreating from Several Areas in East Aleppo After the Fall of the Kuweries Airport
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-mass-retreating-from-several-areas-in-east-aleppo-after-the-fall-of-the-kuweries-airport/

    ...

    Looks like there's also been a SAA & Allies counterattack in Northern Hama...the "Tiger" Forces are apparently going there as well (no rest for them)

    #Syria #Hama Pro rebel activist from Idlib - Militants lost everything they captures south of #Kafr_Nabudah to #SAA
    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/664159978907897857

    The Syrian Army has rolled back all of the terrorist advances in northern Hama since Sunday - Sqaylabiyah offensive fails
    https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/664167299482566656

    Exclusive: Tiger Forces to Redeploy to Northern Hama
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/exclusive-tiger-forces-to-redeploy-to-northern-hama/



    PapaDragon wrote:
    According to this SAA has started receiving Tochkas from Russia. Good news if true and Russian Army is retiring these from service so win-win. thumbsup

    http://charly015.blogspot.rs/2015/11/misiles-tochka-en-siria.html

    According to military commentator Viktor Murakhovski (vim at Otvaga) a lot of gear is being brought over via the Syrian Express. He believes new units are being formed in the rear. In his estimate it will take a minimum of 45-60 days to get them ready before they can join the fight, although some of the equipment has already been spotted in some videos.
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:08 pm

    Northern Hama in a bit more detail....some of these claims have been reported by pro jihadi accounts as well so likely legit

    #SAA Counter Attack in North #Hama recapturing Tell al-Sakhr & The Grain Silos , Al Mughayr is under SAA control
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 31 CTdJF2QUcAEbAYp

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    Earlier Latakia was hit by 2 rockets killing 22 civilians and wounding over 60...pics in link

    2 rockets fell on #Latakia city, Al-Awqaf neighbourhood and near Tishreen university, martyrs & wounded reported
    https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/664046659773468672
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:27 am

    The advance to Kuwaires...the second half of video is graphic



    ..

    Khan Shaykhun (North of Morek) under heavy bombardment...lots of snackbarring
    Location: http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=35.433333,36.633333&z=12&t=M&marker0=35.433333,36.633333,Khan%20Shaykhun


    2 rockets fell on #Latakia city, Al-Awqaf neighbourhood and near Tishreen university, martyrs & wounded reported

    The culprits
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    Post  George1 Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:28 am

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    Post  Vann7 Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:39 am



    Ming Airbase or mingbath forgot the exact name.. it was reported by Lebanese
    Military experts commentators that they Syrian Army hold it for 3 years.. under siege..
    but in the end the terrorist finally captured it.. the question is.. how you consider such
    even a failure or a major success for Syrian army.. losing a military base?

    According to the lebaness expert with information close to the Syrian command..
    the SAA lost ~20 soldiers defending the base.. and the Rebels lost 3,500. Smile
    So who really was the winner and who really was the loser ? The Military base did not
    helped the Rebels in any way since they dont have airforce and the SAA removed anything
    of use for them... Stories like this is important to remember.. because this is exactly the kind
    of battles that Syria needs to provoke to achieve more with less..

    So if you ask me.. there was no Rush for Kuwaitires Military base to take it.. i will have just delayed it its capture for a week or two if big waves of terrorist continues assaulting it. Better to fight them out of their underground bunkers and attract them in numbers than to figure out where they are hidding in a city. because is far easier to fight on defense when you have heavily fortified your zone and dig trenches. than in offense that you need to deal with mines and terrorist can hide in residential zones ,negating the airforce advantage that you will have had the terrorist move to the Open field and exposed without any defense.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:50 am

    Soldiers hat entered the base counted 314 defenders. At the beginning there were about 500-600 of them so 200-300 must have died. OF course for a 35 months long siege this is a modest number - these 500 soldiers inficted much higher losses on the enemy (200 ISISmen were killed in a single assault in October) and kept a much more numerous force tied for almost 3 years.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:55 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Soldiers hat entered the base counted 314 defenders. At the beginning there were about 500-600 of them so 200-300 must have died. OF course for a 35 months long siege this is a modest number - these 500 soldiers inficted much higher losses on the enemy (200 ISISmen were killed in a single assault in October) and kept a much more numerous force tied for almost 3 years.
    Many of the injured, and possibly dead, had probably been medivaced out on the outgoing, and otherwise empty, supply helicopters so the death toll may not be quite that bad. Pretty heroic tho'.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:57 am

    Cyberspec wrote:The advance to Kuwaires...the second half of video is graphic



    ..

    Khan Shaykhun (North of Morek) under heavy bombardment...lots of snackbarring
    Location: http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=35.433333,36.633333&z=12&t=M&marker0=35.433333,36.633333,Khan%20Shaykhun


    2 rockets fell on #Latakia city, Al-Awqaf neighbourhood and near Tishreen university, martyrs & wounded reported

    The culprits

    Fucking Ace, finally the Russians got their way and are directly levelling Khan Shaykun instead of hitting middlemen.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:58 am

    If they were evacuated by air, then the estimate of 35 SAA killed is not unrealistic at all.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:01 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:If they were evacuated by air, then the estimate of 35 SAA killed is not unrealistic at all.

    They lost 35 this year alone. Let's not get all unicorns and buttercups. The ISIS attack that almost overran the base earlier in October killed 14 when they slammed two VBIED's, unfortunately that also collapsed the building they were targeting, which closed the gap/
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:08 am

    And how many men did ISIS lose for every failed attack? The terrain around the base is perfect for the defender - flat terrain all around, everu soldier approaching the base becomes a sitting duck.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:14 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:If they were evacuated by air, then the estimate of 35 SAA killed is not unrealistic at all.

    They lost 35 this year alone. Let's not get all unicorns and buttercups. The ISIS attack that almost overran the base earlier in October killed 14 when they slammed two VBIED's, unfortunately that also collapsed the building they were targeting, which closed the gap/

    So where are now the bashing to the Rebels/US commandos for failing in 2 years to take control
    of a surrounded military base? Isn't that incompetence? Why when the SSA lose a city ,there is major bashing of their failure.. but when they hold a place for 2 years after waves and waves
    of thousands mercenaries attack they still hold it?

    Now you are claiming it was an "almost win"..for the American paid and armed mercenaries..  lol1   And the Syrian Army should be the one blamed for not taking it earlier. Wink


    About the casualties many of the SAA in the miltiary airport that were wounded earlier were evacuated.. so the casualties possibly are in the less than 100 .. while at the same time the American mercenaries have to be in the thousands ,since they all attack in massive waves after
    several suicide bomb attacks in trucks, and such tactic are not cheap in mercenaries loses.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:20 am

    a US mechanized regiment would have taken the base in one day. Do not equate rebel militants to NATO soldiers, this is stupiditty like from earth to the moon. The fact that many militants take money from KSA and Turkey does not mean they fight exclusively for that money. Rolling Eyes

    Nonetheless, how do you imagine the battle to have a different outcome? Like I said, ground around Kweires is perfect for defence. There is no way to break the line of deefence except by sending wave upon wave of guys on pick-ups - which is what IS did.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:23 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    whir wrote:
    Solncepek wrote:When will we see russian jets and choppers in Kweires Airbase?
    Unnecessary risk, fuel is cheaper than lives and machines.
    Although it will probably be increasingly safe to operate from there, especially the Mi-24s, the fly in the ointment would be logistics. Fuel and munitions etc would need to be brought from the coast, vulnerable trucks.

    As you say, much better to have more minutes of flying time.
    Looks like the Mi-24s are already being dispersed around the country. From yesterday's Russian MoD briefing

    In the province of Daraa a training camp belonging to the group "Al-Nusra" was destroyed. In the southern province of Hasaka, a renewed joint operation of Syrian troops and Kurdish groups was announced in the Villages of Tal Serena and Rajm al-Sayyaran. US officials have said that Russia has expanded its area of ​​application of combat helicopters to a large part of the territory of Syria. Now, according to their data, Russian Mi-24 and Mi-8 are not just taking off from an air base in the province of Latakia, but also from the other three air bases in central and northern Syria.

    Russian Defense Ministry spokesman at a regular press briefing, informed a significant change in the tactics of terrorist groups throughout the territory of Syria. As noted by Major-General Igor Konashenkov, "gangs are not as aggressive as they were a month ago. Today, terrorists are trying to conduct flexible defensive tactics, regularly moving and dodging punches as the Syrian government troops and the Russian airforce seek and destroy."


    http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/russian-mod-terrorists-tactics-in-syria.html
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    Post  Siempre_Leal Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:28 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    whir wrote:
    Solncepek wrote:When will we see russian jets and choppers in Kweires Airbase?
    Unnecessary risk, fuel is cheaper than lives and machines.
    Although it will probably be increasingly safe to operate from there, especially the Mi-24s, the fly in the ointment would be logistics. Fuel and munitions etc would need to be brought from the coast, vulnerable trucks.

    As you say, much better to have more minutes of flying time.
    Looks like the Mi-24s are already being dispersed around the country. From yesterday's Russian MoD briefing

    In the province of Daraa a training camp belonging to the group "Al-Nusra" was destroyed. In the southern province of Hasaka, a renewed joint operation of Syrian troops and Kurdish groups was announced in the Villages of Tal Serena and Rajm al-Sayyaran. US officials have said that Russia has expanded its area of ​​application of combat helicopters to a large part of the territory of Syria. Now, according to their data, Russian Mi-24 and Mi-8 are not just taking off from an air base in the province of Latakia, but also from the other three air bases in central and northern Syria.

    Russian Defense Ministry spokesman at a regular press briefing, informed a significant change in the tactics of terrorist groups throughout the territory of Syria. As noted by Major-General Igor Konashenkov, "gangs are not as aggressive as they were a month ago. Today, terrorists are trying to conduct flexible defensive tactics, regularly moving and dodging punches as the Syrian government troops and the Russian airforce seek and destroy."


    http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/russian-mod-terrorists-tactics-in-syria.html

    I agree, last time I saw Russian Mi-24s were in Homs and in Aleppo near Khannaser

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