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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:27 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?

    Mystery to me. Chinese? I dont have other legit source in mind, since i doubt Iran is capable of doing so... i might be wrong tho. And noone else would export such sensitive products to Iran.

    It's a Gen 2 sight, off course Iran can pull it off, but most likely initial source is ROK.
    Erratum, it's an almost direct copy of JIR Hubei. Chinese/

    http://hbjir.en.alibaba.com/

    http://hbjir.en.alibaba.com/product/678177063-214483701/Monocular_Thermal_camera_night_vision_scope.html

    It still baffles me that Hizb would jump out without these.

    sepheronx wrote:Or it was handed to their ISIS buddies.

    Southern Front moderate assholes.
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    Post  Solncepek on Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:01 pm

    Six fighters belonging to Lebanon’s Hezbollah Shia militia have been killed during fighting in Syria, Al-Khaleejonline has reported. According to Al-Jazeera news channel, the death toll of Hezbollah fighters who have been killed since the beginning of the Russian intervention in Syria on 30 September now stands at 32.

    Websites close to Hezbollah confirmed the killing of the six fighters, saying that they were killed while carrying out their “sacred duty”. The group has not revealed the total number of its fighters lost in Syria, but the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights estimates that it is now more than 900.
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:35 pm

    Not heard this take on the 50 US special forces in Syria before. Maybe there is even a backlog of casualties.

    Phil Butler — political analyst based in Trier, Germany, commented on the issue in an exclusive interview with Sputnik. “It is a curious announcement that Obama made. It seems like something else is going on which we don’t see right now. It could be a screening operation; these Special Forces could extract something or somebody from these ‘moderate’ rebels.” He went on to say that right now the US policy is total ‘chaos’ as it seems that the US and the coalition is back paddling and thinking what sort of position to take.

    Currently, the US is trying to work out a way to get leverage over Putin’s move in Syria.

    “I don’t think it has anything to do with enhancing the peace process. From what we have seen so far Ukraine, Syria, Georgia all of this West versus East rhetoric almost all of it took place by design, it is a business proposition. Announcing the deployment of 50 Special Forces in Syria, I think that is just letting the American people know that they were there in case one of them gets killed trying to cover up or something else,” Butler said in an interview.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151103/1029553161/us-syria-troops-military-action-isil.html#ixzz3qSVLcmkt
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:40 pm

    Solncepek wrote:Six fighters belonging to Lebanon’s Hezbollah Shia militia have been killed during fighting in Syria, Al-Khaleejonline has reported. According to Al-Jazeera news channel, the death toll of Hezbollah fighters who have been killed since the beginning of the Russian intervention in Syria on 30 September now stands at 32.

    Websites close to Hezbollah confirmed the killing of the six fighters, saying that they were killed while carrying out their “sacred duty”. The group has not revealed the total number of its fighters lost in Syria, but the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights estimates that it is now more than 900.

    Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is a BS organization not worth mentioning or quoting.  Much like Mothers of Soldiers or whatever it is in Russia.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:45 pm

    There is no doubt that Hezbollah lost a lot of fighter since the beginning of the offensive - certainly over 50 killed. Fighting that goes on now is some of the heaviest fighting since the war began.
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    Post  Guest on Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:58 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?

    Mystery to me. Chinese? I dont have other legit source in mind, since i doubt Iran is capable of doing so... i might be wrong tho. And noone else would export such sensitive products to Iran.
    Off topic to this, but have you found any data on Russia's Orion 100% made thermal matrix?  All I know is based upon the Rostec news post about Agat thermal sight for tanks.

    Nothing very informing, just casual stuff that can be found by Googling, if i ever stumble upon something more technical ill keep in mind and send you.
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    Post  Guest on Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:02 pm



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    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:23 pm

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    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.

    No, Sayyad 5.56 (CQ M311-3), these guys are either Hizb'Allah or Hizb'Ichaat (Kataib Hizb'allah - Iraq).
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    Post  Guest on Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:36 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

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    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.

    No, Sayyad 5.56 (CQ M311-3), these guys are either Hizb'Allah or Hizb'Ichaat (Kataib Hizb'allah - Iraq).

    You sure? I never saw S 5.56 with such stock, i assumed its M16 obtained from Iraqi Security Forces, with some of the shelf stock.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:46 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 CS6DrcLVEAAZf7U

    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.

    No, Sayyad 5.56 (CQ M311-3), these guys are either Hizb'Allah or Hizb'Ichaat (Kataib Hizb'allah - Iraq).

    You sure? I never saw S 5.56 with such stock, i assumed its M16 obtained from Iraqi Security Forces, with some of the shelf stock.

    It can't be M16A2 because (bear with me I hate the balck shit).

    Windage knob isn't there, forward assist has the A1 shape, the hand guards are heavily ribbed, flash hider is oversized and elongated typical of M16A1.
    Given the Sayyad/CQ is a M16A1 copy, that's normal. Uuugh I feel dirty. Quick pictures of AK...
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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:48 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Or it was handed to their ISIS buddies.

    Good thing however is that Russia can very easily counter American drones with counter electronics.. and hijack them without exploding. IF you ask me Russia electronic warfare is
    a game changer in the battle field in modern warfare.. but so far doesn't look like Russia
    is aggressive enough in Syria ,since terrorist continues to communicate freely for the videos
    they upload..  maybe they don't want to reveal all their capabilities yet? or don't want to risk
    their EMP technology being captured? Who knows..

    What is clear however that the more smaller and light is the drone ,the more weaker
    its antenna and more easier to jam it with anything.. This is why i believe US massive
    research in multi mass miniature drone attacks to flood enemy airspace , with hundreds of thousands of bird like drones flying in groups, as cool and future looking it was on the surface
    was blow out of the water and officially killed before it take off. A new form of communications
    will be required that do not use radio waves , perhaps X-ray communications that operates on
    a very high frequency and more faster its transmission. It could be dangerous however give Cancer to the operators or anyone in contact with that.. lol1 if not protected ..

    Maybe True artificial intelligence drones is the way forward. That can emulate human senses
    and guide itself through visual guidance. Still Electronics needs to go to.. for something like photononics..some more advanced circuits of energy transmission using light communications.
    Russia could be close to that or already working on it.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:28 am

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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:36 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Saudi Arabia does not want a Salafi state in Syria. For KSA the best Syria would be a nationalist state ruled by a combination of secular law and a watered-down version of Sharia - something like a bigger copy of Jordan.

    Contrary to what most of this form thinks, Saudi Arabia is not that hell bent on creating Wahhabi states everywhere. Surely they do support Wahhabi terrorists if it suits their interest but they're willing to work even with secularists - in Egypt KSA supported secular Sisi against islamist Muslim Brotherhood - so thigns aren't that clear.

    Well, money can do miracles and as long as Saudis have money, they are going to be protected by everyone.

    The wahhabi terrorist ideology is part of Saudi laws.. people there ,womens are beheaded almost every week.. Womens stonned to dead.  There is no difference dude between ISIS laws and Saudi Laws.. basically the same thing. Being gay in saudi Arabia is sentence of death.. people cut their hands.. even music is illegal.. so little you know about Saudi Arabia.. Is a nation that beaten womens is legal and is a right of every men.. IF any man rape a women.. the government blames the women for it ,for not being outside.. and blamed her for "tempting the man into rape her" .  Saudi Arabia is a barbaric nation.. a protectorate of USA. And they have license to be barbaric because they oil business is very important for US economy. In the year 2015 Saudi Arabia have behead more people than ISIS.. lol1 And don't dare to be handsome man there either, you will be arrested for that.. Is a real barbaric medieval nation.

    You are terribly mistaken about Saudi Arabia.. is a terrorist state. All this ISIS and Alqaeda
    terror comes from the Saudi Culture.  Iran is far  better that Saudi Arabia but still far from a
    free nation.is still religious fanatic totalitarian state. And any Iranian converting to Christianity is a death sentence. The whole Muslin world is repression of human expression and basic rights.
    countries like Syria and Lebanon and Egypt in middle east are distancing from strict Islam controlled form of government. and this is one of the real reason of the endless violence there.why Jihadist religious fanatics fighters wants to overthrow their governments. US ,Saudi ,Turkey and ISrael fuels the conflict with weapons and money too.


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:44 am

    Vann, read my post once again carefully, word by word. You completely missed my point.
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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:59 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Vann, read my post once again carefully, word by word. You completely missed my point.



    i did.. but you are mistaken.
    Saudi is a terrorist state dude.. get that clear . They are the major financiers of terrorism
    in the world. And behind the chechen terrorist attack in Russia school and the chechen war.


    in Egypt KSA supported secular Sisi against islamist Muslim Brotherhood - so thigns aren't that clear.


    Saudi Support Egypt because it controls the Suez Canal and none of Saudi Oil could travel to
    Europe if Egypt blocks their business. So is a purely Economical relation Saudi buy Egypt favors with Billions they receive from them.. the Mistral for example will be paid by Saudi Arabia to Egypt. ,same way that Russia and Turkey that is purely economical..even though Turkey is the most hostile nation near Russia borders after the new power in Ukraine.

    Again Saudis are animals ,pure barbaric culture. When you have the daughter of the Saudi king
    asking the world to overthrow her family from power ,can only show you how bad it is the state.



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    Post  NationalRus on Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:24 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Vann, read my post once again carefully, word by word. You completely missed my point.



    i did.. but you are mistaken.
    Saudi is a terrorist state dude.. get that clear . They are the major financiers of terrorism
    in the world. And behind the chechen terrorist attack in Russia school and the chechen war.


    in Egypt KSA supported secular Sisi against islamist Muslim Brotherhood - so thigns aren't that clear.


    Saudi Support Egypt because it controls the Suez Canal and none of Saudi Oil could travel to
    Europe if Egypt blocks their business.  So is a purely Economical relation Saudi buy Egypt favors with Billions they receive from them.. the Mistral for example will be paid by Saudi Arabia to Egypt. ,same way that Russia and Turkey that is purely economical..even though Turkey is the most hostile nation near Russia borders after the new power in Ukraine.

    Again Saudis are animals ,pure barbaric culture. When you have the daughter of the Saudi king
    asking the world to overthrow her family from power ,can only show you how bad it is the state.


    the KSA were not friendly to the MB when they had short power in egypt or were friendly to there organization at all when they started to gain more weight because they present a ideological alternative for the same wahhabi fascist pigs like KSA fascist wahhabism and with that are a challenge to KSA sunni dogs on a ideological level and with that also there unicity and singularity leadership in the sunni wahhabi world view
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    Post  Guest on Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:26 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 CS6DrcLVEAAZf7U

    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.

    No, Sayyad 5.56 (CQ M311-3), these guys are either Hizb'Allah or Hizb'Ichaat (Kataib Hizb'allah - Iraq).

    You sure? I never saw S 5.56 with such stock, i assumed its M16 obtained from Iraqi Security Forces, with some of the shelf stock.

    It can't be M16A2 because (bear with me I hate the balck shit).

    Windage knob isn't there, forward assist has the A1 shape, the hand guards are heavily ribbed, flash hider is oversized and elongated typical of M16A1.
    Given the Sayyad/CQ is a M16A1 copy, that's normal. Uuugh I feel dirty. Quick pictures of AK...

    Could be, could be, only M16 i ever had in my hands was Bosnian army M16A2 almost decade ago. But kill me if its hand guards werent heavily ribbed just like here... None the less ty for fixing it for me.
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    Post  Siempre_Leal on Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:44 am

    More of those AR variants in Syria pics from this year.

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 ZaYlo5i
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 HiUuopr
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:49 am

    NationalRus wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Vann, read my post once again carefully, word by word. You completely missed my point.



    i did.. but you are mistaken.
    Saudi is a terrorist state dude.. get that clear . They are the major financiers of terrorism
    in the world. And behind the chechen terrorist attack in Russia school and the chechen war.


    in Egypt KSA supported secular Sisi against islamist Muslim Brotherhood - so thigns aren't that clear.


    Saudi Support Egypt because it controls the Suez Canal and none of Saudi Oil could travel to
    Europe if Egypt blocks their business.  So is a purely Economical relation Saudi buy Egypt favors with Billions they receive from them.. the Mistral for example will be paid by Saudi Arabia to Egypt. ,same way that Russia and Turkey that is purely economical..even though Turkey is the most hostile nation near Russia borders after the new power in Ukraine.

    Again Saudis are animals ,pure barbaric culture. When you have the daughter of the Saudi king
    asking the world to overthrow her family from power ,can only show you how bad it is the state.


    the KSA were not friendly to the MB when they had short power in egypt or were friendly to there organization at all when they started to gain more weight because they present a ideological alternative for the same wahhabi fascist pigs like KSA fascist wahhabism and with that are a challenge to KSA sunni dogs on a ideological level and with that also there unicity and singularity leadership in the sunni wahhabi world view

    Less of a ideological difference, and more of a geographical difference (like different narcotics trafficking syndicates fighting over market share). Saudi's want to control the entire Muslim world from Riyadh, KSA while the Muslim Brotherhood has 2 capitals, one in Doha, Qatar...and the other one is in Ankara, Turkey. Wahabbi's and Salafi's (aka Qatar and Turkish based Muslim Brotherhood) chop off heads just the same. Saudi's will not share power, while Qatari's and Turks are willing to split power between two distinct blocks: Qatari's will dominate MENA (Middle East and North Africa), while Turks under the beliefs of Grey Wolf Pan-Turkic, Pan-Turanism, will dominate Central Asia and South-Eastern Europe.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:18 am

    Siempre_Leal wrote:More of those AR variants in Syria pics from this year.

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 ZaYlo5i
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 HiUuopr
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 VlYk3LY
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 Xa0qvKt
    Aaaaand you just won an up vote. Thanks Siempre. A1 flash hider. Sayyad hand guard, no windage knob, old forward assist shape. What's surprising is the fact they use it as DMR.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:25 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?

    Mystery to me. Chinese? I dont have other legit source in mind, since i doubt Iran is capable of doing so... i might be wrong tho. And noone else would export such sensitive products to Iran.
    Off topic to this, but have you found any data on Russia's Orion 100% made thermal matrix?  All I know is based upon the Rostec news post about Agat thermal sight for tanks.

    Here is the Orion website.

    http://www.orion-ir.ru/produkciya/

    Their website seems to be a much more abbreviated version of their old site. I can only see the data for one of the LWIR FPAs, a 256 X 256 mercury cadmium telluride array.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:42 pm


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    Syrian Army Takes Control Over Key Highway Connecting Aleppo and Hama

    The Syrian Armed Forces have taken control over a strategically important highway in the north of the country, a military source told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151104/1029573177/syrian-army-highway-aleppo.html

    The highway is connecting the cities of Aleppo and Al-Salamiyah in the Syrian province of Hama. Moreover, the highway is the main supply route for the Syrian government army in the city of Aleppo.

    "After fierce fighting with ISIL terrorists, the [Syrian] army has taken full control over the Aleppo-Ithriya-Khanasser-Salamiyah highway. Dozens of terrorists were eliminated. Mine clearance specialists have started to demine explosive devices," the source said.

    Terrorists have controlled the highway during 10 days.

    The Syrian army continued its countrywide operations against jihadists, liberating more villages and destroying terrorist infrastructure.

    Late October, the Syrian government forces with the support of militia foighters liberated 50 villages in the south-east of Aleppo province.

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    Post  par far on Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:07 pm

    Right next to Russian airbase, these assholes are asking for it.

    https://www.rt.com/news/320704-us-syria-ground-training-rebels/

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:05 pm

    Tiger Forces storming Sheikh Ahmad right now:
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:26 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Tiger Forces storming Sheikh Ahmad right now:
    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 CS-BnX1W4AAVwut

    Good news, I just hope they secure the flanks properly since that line looks a bit thin...

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