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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:34 pm

    Nikander wrote:Glazyev plan doesn't have anything in common with current suicidal economic policy of Russia. How his ideas are received by the liberals, with what rage they talk about him and any of his ideas is a testimony of that.

    Because liberal scum are not 5th columnists they are genuine russians working for russians, right?

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:49 pm

    His Idea of QE is a bad one. Simple as that. Simply, debt will drastically increase. QE didnt help US or Europe. Just kicked the can.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:58 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Estonian farmers protest the food embargo counter-sanctions by Russia...your gonna be protesting more when your gas privilege is cut off in 2019... Razz


    Don't see what the heck those guys are even protesting about.

    I mean - now they can sell to the Ukraine, tariff-free! Don't they know? What a Face

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:04 pm

    Nikander wrote:Glazyev plan doesn't have anything in common with current suicidal economic policy of Russia. How his ideas are received by the liberals, with what rage they talk about him and any of his ideas is a testimony of that. At the same time people like him are the only chance Russia's got if it's to win this war that it's waged against her. Current economic policy is terrible, people talk about import substitution but that substitution is not actually happening. It's not happening because the Central bank and the government with it's dogmatic economic policy is not letting it happen. So if this goes on slowly but surely Russia will die out just like Soviet Union did and for the same reasons: DOGMATICISM. Of course that Putin couldn't deliver the promise of 6% growth, how could he if this certain economic policy preached by liberals has reached dead end and it simply can't achieve any significant growth anywhere on earth. Now what we have is a silly situation were Russia is continuing with this policy in a situation of sanctions like nothing happened.  This was the wrong policy even before sanctions but how can you continue with it when those who are controlling the system are blocking you from doing it effectively in any way. I understood Putin position at the start, he didn't want to do any changes because he hoped that there would be some kind of understanding between the parties and life could go on like it was. But now is crystal clear to everyone that we are in pre WWIII stage and nothing of sort wold happen. Sanctions are here to stay, they will be reinforced even more and the only chance for their removal is if Russia beats them, if it shows to the West that it's becoming even stronger because of them. As long as West sees that sanctions are weakening Russia, and they are currently doing that even if not on a great level they will continue with their policy. Good thing is that I think that Putin understands that major changes need to be made but probably is waiting for something to happen so that he can act. I'm looking at Glazyev plan as preparing the public opinion and also the big shots for changes because Glazyev has been getting a lot of publicity lately so this wouldn't have happened if Putin is not taking him seriously. Problem for Putin is how to make necessary changes and at the same time keep oligarchs and so called loyal liberals from rebelling. He would like to make changes but keep them in the fold, persuade them that this has to be done because  otherwise there will have to be a purge. Remember when Stalin had his purge, on the eve of WWII and the purge was aimed at Trotskysts. I see very similar situation unfolding here. There are no doubt that many liberals currently in the government, in the Central bank are secret traitors who would if let's say Khodorkovsky came to power immediately change sides, start working with great delight for the new pro western government and talk of Putin as if he is the biggest criminal the world have ever known. So changes will sooner or later, better sooner have to be made if Russia wants to survive. Will a purge be needed to do it that's to be seen.

    Less words, and more concrete content.

    What does 'Glazyev's plan' entail? What is he proposing that Russia's 'current suicidal economic policy' hasn't tried?

    All I hear in your post is a lot of slander, accusations, critisism but little in the way of fresh ideas and proposals; correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:35 am

    In the Yaroslavl region opened a major garment factory
    In Pereslavl-Zalessky, opened the largest garment manufacturing — garment factory "Leia". Prior to this production was in Moscow, the company has worked since 2007.
    Area — 2500 sq. m.
    Population — 200 production staff.
    Mode of operation — seven days a week.
    Capacity — 30 000 pieces of garments per month.
    Factory engaged in making women's and men's clothing to order, and sells its products wholesale. Our clients are major wholesale distributors, regional trading companies, brands men's and women's clothing.

    "Prepreg-SKM" has launched a new product — carbon braided preforms
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    "Woven preforms is an innovative product for the Russian market. Now his experience in the Russian aircraft manufacturing enterprises in the framework of research. If the tests are successful, in the coming years, the aerospace industry will be the main consumer of braided preforms," said senior process engineer "Prepreg-SKM" Shumakov Anton.
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    Among the sports goods manufactured using braided sleeves, Bicycle frame and a hockey stick. Such reinforced clubs are now playing regional teams hockey with the ball in the Ulyanovsk region and the Krasnoyarsk territory.
    Carbon preforms are manufactured on specialized equipment, located at the production sites of "Prepreg-SKM" in Technopolis "Moscow". This unique and innovative machine radial weave, full which has no analogue in Russia.
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:13 pm

    So we all complain about western MSM? Take a gander at this:
    http://m.lenta.ru/articles/2015/09/15/wages/

    Now, they mention PPP but said China was in favor of it as well. They didnt use any sources to back it up or mention many numbers. But I decided to look it up and:
    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-per-capita-ppp

    And

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-per-capita-ppp

    Russia's GDP per Capita PPP terms is quite a bit higher than China's but is slightly lower than China nominal.

    Trading economics get their data from official sources like IMF.

    So what is this guy saying? Where is he getting his info from? I noticed much doom speech on Lenta so I am thinking it is liberal media of Russia. Because they cannot seem to get their facts straight. These indices takes inflation into example as well.

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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:23 pm

    sepheronx wrote:So we all complain about western MSM? Take a gander at this:
    http://m.lenta.ru/articles/2015/09/15/wages/

    Now, they mention PPP but said China was in favor of it as well. They didnt use any sources to back it up or mention many numbers.  But I decided to look it up and:
    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-per-capita-ppp

    And

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-per-capita-ppp

    Russia's GDP per Capita PPP terms is quite a bit higher than China's but is slightly lower than China nominal.

    Trading economics get their data from official sources like IMF.

    So what is this guy saying? Where is he getting his info from?  I noticed much doom speech on Lenta so I am thinking it is liberal media of Russia. Because they cannot seem to get their facts straight.  These indices takes inflation into example as well.

    I do not trust lenta since the interview of Khordokovsky, with that cunt of reporter asking him questions with prejudice like she asked:

    "You were unrightfully imprisoned, what will be your future plans regarding this injustice?" Entire big load of horse shit which BitnikGr posted to me for a good laugh.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  mutantsushi on Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:01 am

    sepheronx wrote:Russia's GDP per Capita PPP terms is quite a bit higher than China's but is slightly lower than China nominal.
    I think you're confused or something.  
    All per Capita figures of Russia are higher than China, nominal or PPP.  
    Total GDP figures of Russia are MUCH MUCH less than China, nominal or PPP, as China's population is so much larger.


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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  max steel on Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:09 am





    Russia gdp per capita is higher than china due to less population but russia's gdp in terms of ppp is less than china. Its gpd in ppp terms is highest among Europe though , surpassed germany in 2013 .




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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:10 am

    You seem to be right. At least on trading economics data. IMF apparently give China $8800 per capital nominal and $8100 to Russia (after currency exchange drop of course) making China higher.  But trading economics shows a different picture.

    The article from lenta is trying to state it is per capita that China are richer on average.

    Edit:

    MAX, take a look at the trading economic sites

    Russia: 23292.91

    China: 12608.87

    PPP terms.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:37 am

    angry so called "greatest CBR" - http://ria.ru/economy/20150917/1256593045.html

    Buys $10B more US T-Bonds in July.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Austin on Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:34 am

    sepheronx wrote: angry so called "greatest CBR" - http://ria.ru/economy/20150917/1256593045.html

    Buys $10B more US T-Bonds in July.

    Expecting an interest rate hike they might have bought it , a tactical move.

    CBR has been buying gold for past 1 years and rarely invested in T Bonds

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Austin on Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:37 am

    Russia to Spend $38Bln From Reserve Fund in 2015

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150916/1027090120.html#ixzz3lyllCP5I

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — As of August 31, Russia's Reserve Fund totaled 4.7 trillion rubles, while the National Wealth Fund accumulated 4.9 trillion rubles.

    "We will spend 2.5 trillion [from the Reserve Fund] this year," Siluanov told reporters.


    He added that the Finance Ministry was planning to keep at least 2 trillion rubles cumulatively in the Reserve Fund and the National Wealth Fund by the end of 2018.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150916/1027090120.html#ixzz3lylsSZbf

    So if they spend 2.5 Trillion on Reserve fund , from 4.7 only 2.2 Trillion would be left Shocked

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Austin on Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:38 am

    This news is more stark

    Media: The Finance Ministry proposes to increase the retirement age since 2016

    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/2268984

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:15 pm



    For me the solution a way out and to get that 6%, is an industrial revolution in Russia.
    and stop overspending on nuclear missiles and building so many warships ,that yes they are
    cool and nice.. but Russia don't need them to defend their nation. For example decommisioning
    half of their soviet warships will save a LOT of money in budget.. and invest ,invest and invest a lot more in their space program. their semiconductor industry ,their automobile industry , and
    home entertainment industry.. of course also food..and creating modern cities. Russia also need to build their technology with aims not only to sell it to China but to the west too.. in case
    sanction lifted. All this technology will find a market in ASIA and BRICS nations but also in the west. as Yotaphone2 for example. Russia invest $80 billions every year on its defense industry..
    they could cut that number in half by just getting rid of their obsolete navy and keeping a small but modern navy.. like france have. at the moment Russia have 12 destroyers. and about 10,000 sailors in them that Russia needs to pay their salaries too. Just keep only the Kirov class
    and decomission all others and reduce in half its corvette fleet.. from 71 to 35. and then you will see a LOT of money that RUssia will save and could re-use on its space industry or semiconductor or any other..

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:39 pm

    Austin wrote:Russia to Spend $38Bln From Reserve Fund in 2015

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150916/1027090120.html#ixzz3lyllCP5I

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — As of August 31, Russia's Reserve Fund totaled 4.7 trillion rubles, while the National Wealth Fund accumulated 4.9 trillion rubles.

    "We will spend 2.5 trillion [from the Reserve Fund] this year," Siluanov told reporters.


    He added that the Finance Ministry was planning to keep at least 2 trillion rubles cumulatively in the Reserve Fund and the National Wealth Fund by the end of 2018.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150916/1027090120.html#ixzz3lylsSZbf

    So if they spend 2.5 Trillion on Reserve fund , from 4.7 only  2.2 Trillion would be left Shocked

    At least they are using it rather than sitting on it. But what gets me is that even with trade surplus, they wont put back money. So what are they gonna do? Maybe they should use it as a form of investments? But that makes just too much sense.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:45 pm

    Vann7 wrote:

    For me the solution a way out and to get that 6%, is an industrial revolution in Russia.
    and stop overspending on nuclear missiles and building so many warships ,that yes they are
    cool and nice.. but Russia don't need them to defend their nation. For example decommisioning
    half of their soviet warships will save a LOT of money in budget.. and invest ,invest and invest a lot more in their space program. their semiconductor industry ,their automobile industry , and
    home entertainment industry.. of course also food..and creating modern cities. Russia also need to build their technology with aims not only to sell it to China but to the west too.. in case
    sanction lifted. All this technology will find a market in ASIA and BRICS nations but also in the west. as Yotaphone2 for example. Russia invest $80 billions every year on its defense industry..
    they could cut that number in half by just getting rid of their obsolete navy and keeping a small but modern navy.. like france have. at the moment Russia have 12 destroyers. and about  10,000 sailors in them that Russia needs to pay their salaries too.  Just keep only the Kirov class
    and decomission all others and reduce in half its corvette fleet.. from 71 to 35. and then you will see  a LOT of money that RUssia will save and could re-use on its space industry or semiconductor or any other..

    Here is the kicker, and prepare yourself....

    Military production accounts for industrial production. Actually, mic accounts for 25% of Russias industrial production.

    So in other words, if they cut back on buying new boats, or tanks or whatever, they will have even further industrial prodiction output drop, which will result in a negative GDP growth.

    What REALLY needs to be done is line up the CBR, execute them for treason, and get interest rates down for business loans. Place incentives for manufacturing modernisation, increase average wage to meet inflation, and start enticing buyers to start buying again, and that will REALLY bring GDP growth back.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Neutrality on Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:10 pm

    sepheronx wrote:

    Here is the kicker, and prepare yourself....

    Military production accoints for industrial production.

    So in other words, if they cut back on buying mew boats, or tanks or whatever, they will have even further industrial prodiction output drop, which will result in a negative GDP growth.

    What REALLY needs to be done is line up the CBR, execute them for treason, and get interest rates down for business loans. Place incentives for manufacturing modernisation, increase average wage to meet inflation, and start enticing buyers to start buying again, and that will REALLY bring GDP growth back.

    Calm down Stalin. Execute who and what for exactly? AFAIK it was the CBR that saved the Russian economy from graver doom. High interest rate for businesses is in place in order not to (completely) deplete the reserve funds in foreign currency. This makes alot of sense because the current sanctions make it very difficult to lend money internationally. The government opening credit lines with Chinese banks and investment firms were a good hint. This is my impression anyway.

    The government is using the reserve funds to patch the crucial holes in the economy. The current interest rates that are in place don't make it impossible to lend. It could have been better ofcourse but right now people who are smarter than you and me have a much better outlook on the economic climate.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:11 pm

    Austin wrote:
    sepheronx wrote: angry so called "greatest CBR" - http://ria.ru/economy/20150917/1256593045.html

    Buys $10B more US T-Bonds in July.

    Expecting an interest rate hike they might have bought it , a tactical move.

    CBR has been buying gold for past 1 years and rarely invested in T Bonds

    No, they simply played into US hands. Why the rates didnt go up because the amount of peoppe investing in us T-Bonds helped the market. So it played into the US favor anyway and CBR is following the shenanagins to continue. They did what so many else did. Buy T-Bonds expecting the fed rate hike. Didnt happen and they had more retards buying their debt.

    Instead, they can get real growth by investing in Russian market bonds. Like the US Fed res does with US market bonds.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:28 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:

    Here is the kicker, and prepare yourself....

    Military production accoints for industrial production.

    So in other words, if they cut back on buying mew boats, or tanks or whatever, they will have even further industrial prodiction output drop, which will result in a negative GDP growth.

    What REALLY needs to be done is line up the CBR, execute them for treason, and get interest rates down for business loans. Place incentives for manufacturing modernisation, increase average wage to meet inflation, and start enticing buyers to start buying again, and that will REALLY bring GDP growth back.

    Calm down Stalin. Execute who and what for exactly? AFAIK it was the CBR that saved the Russian economy from graver doom. High interest rate for businesses is in place in order not to (completely) deplete the reserve funds in foreign currency. This makes alot of sense because the current sanctions make it very difficult to lend money internationally. The government opening credit lines with Chinese banks and investment firms were a good hint. This is my impression anyway.

    The government is using the reserve funds to patch the crucial holes in the economy. The current interest rates that are in place don't make it impossible to lend. It could have been better ofcourse but right now people who are smarter than you and me have a much better outlook on the economic climate.

    Did you know Russia lends trillion, or over, to other markets, but they cant to themselves? As well, majority of the reserves sit outside of the country. In NATO countries no less.  As well, if they invested in their own, tbey could greatly increase their liquidity. I think that is essentially what Glazyev is stating regarding QE in what gunshipDemocracy has stated in the other thread.

    Why has CBR decided to make Russia reliant on foreign loans?

    Btw, those "Smarter than us with a better outlook" keep revising their outlooks to more negative cause of their incompetence. Every fricken month they revise their forcasts to lower because the performance is worst than before.

    Already service sector dropped in August from July, when it was one of the main sectors they were relying on.  Manufacturing dropped as well. Mainly thanks to automotive and the loan market.

    CBR said growth wont happen now until 2017. And then when 2017 happen, growth wont happen till 2019, and then on and on till the country is bankrupt. And this old ugly b**** of cbr minister will be awarded the best piece of shit on earth for helping destroy the country. At least Iran invested in their own development, rather than gambling on T-Bonds monopoly money.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:56 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:

    Here is the kicker, and prepare yourself....

    Military production accounts for industrial production. Actually, mic accounts for 25% of Russias industrial production.

    So in other words, if they cut back on buying new boats, or tanks or whatever, they will have even further industrial prodiction output drop, which will result in a negative GDP growth.

    What REALLY needs to be done is line up the CBR, execute them for treason, and get interest rates down for business loans. Place incentives for manufacturing modernisation, increase average wage to meet inflation, and start enticing buyers to start buying again, and that will REALLY bring GDP growth back.

    They can get those jobs in more lucrative industry.. You have right now about 10,000 Russian
    sailors in old soviet obsolete warships..producing NOTHING.. just doing at times training for a war that will never happen for their units .. and the other time doing nothing.. It will be far better if Russia takes half of their navy ..lets say 10,000 sailors in 12 destroyers that Russia have ,that indirectly or directly maintain the warships.. and use them for example in construction ,building roads. Building trains ,things that promotes jobs and investment and business..  But rusty warships does not promote anything is a total waste of money.

    Building modern quality highways,roads ,trains ,schools ,hospitals ,stadiums ,all those things
    attract investors.. entertainment parks.. attract tourism.. a warship attract nothing. Is just a blackhole there draining Russian Budget. Russia could do very well with half of their surface fleet and without the blackhole destroyers ,that cost a fortune to keep them in service. Because
    of the weakness in RUble now is the time for Russia to invest in Tourism.. But also very important is Russia to create an industrial revolution /import technology substitution and no longer depend in the west. Right now the smart phones market is opening for Russia with Yotaphone 2.. this is an example that Russia needs to keep pushing.. But Russian government is not investing on it.. The automobile industry too.. and the home entertainment industry.. this are the things that the majority of people spend their money in end year hollydays.

    Also Space Industry ,what is Russia waiting to capitalize and take advantage on its space industry. And accelerate their moon and mars project.. not in the year 3,000. .but start now.
    with the aim in 5 years to do it.. or create a Space Tourism industry.  What is russia waiting to
    capitalize on the semiconductor industry and compete with Intel and microsoft? Russian computers advertised as 100% safe of viruses and free of NSA spying will sell like hotcakes.  
    This are markets US have a total monopoly and Russia could take a huge part of the cake..
    Apple alone makes more dollars than Russia entire economy.. this means that technology sells.

    Russians have the talent but the government is missing Big times opportunities.. Instead of Increase the budget on the things that really can push Russia economy to the next level..
    that is space industry ,and technology.. they keep wasting their money in building more nukes and creating a larger navy..

    What Putin is doing is trying to Influence Americans through military force..and not through
    technology and innovation. This is Putin greatest mistakes imo. His lack of vision to understand
    that if he really wants Europe to take Russia seriously and security and create an alliance (to avoid a war with them) . Then Putin needs to turn Russia into a real alternative to United States. that is with a full industrial revolution , in technology ,space ,entertainment and modernization of cities.


    pay close attention to this video Seph.. this is what Russia needs to break the siege
    on the west on them..  



    This are the things that unites people in a nation..that motivates people to stand behind the
    leader and can influence the world. Russia needs to become a nation that leads and not one that follows the west.. and been seen as a real alternative to US.  Russia needs to influence the west with major world  achievements ,not with stupid Nukes. ..everyone wants to be closer to the winners. a country like Germany or Japan that have zero nukes.. have more influence than Russia in the world. and is not surprise. they produce things that everyone wants to have.

    pay close attention to this video ..is not an ISIS invasion, neither a civil war..
    .. is people running to have a chance and buy something that japan makes..

     

    now imagine if Russia beats Americans in a manned landing to mars.. it will be no different than Gagarin celebrations , even the queen of england wanted to meet gagarin. or at least landing in the moon and creating a lunar base? how much praise they will receive.

    This is the way Russia can defeat americans attempts to Isolate Russia,and lift the economic sanctions, by becoming a more attractive nation. But building more nukes  and having a very large navy ,russia is not going to convince any nation to replace american business for theirs.
    Putin simply don't see it.. is so clear for me.. he is indeed disconnected with the world..

    Will you trade your internet and american computer and American entertainment .movies ,music,games for a cheaper gas? of course not.  This is why Greece says they have no choice but to remain slaves of Europe. Why? Because they don't see in RUssia or Brics as an Alternative of the western business.   Putins/Lavrov wants Europe to take them more seriously
    but But they do Nothing or not enough  ,to convince Europe to leave American Business
    and make alliance with them.


    US government says to Europe.. you need to choose between RUssia or US.. and naturally they stay with US. because Russia offers NO alternative to the american business. Why the Euromaidans wanted to be closer to Europe/US world, and not the Russian world? simply because the west is seen largely as the modern world with modern technology with modern economies and all this innovations and technology helps their economy .. Everyone likes german cars.. all womens like french fashion. is called influence and US did a really good job.. in creating an alliance with the nations with more influence but that was possible only because they had the biggest influence ... and left the nations that no one wanted to join .

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Nikander on Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:34 pm

    CBR is not working for Russia, it's a private bank and they couldn't care less about Russia. They are working for the globalist project and are taking their orders from IMF, FED or who the hell knows but certainly not from Putin. Putin didn't mind being part of this project but wanted Russia to be respected as a great power but was rejected. He was rejected for simple reason: Russia is simply too big, too rich, too influential and potentially to powerful to be part of the club. If they give Putin what he wants at any point Russia could become so strong to destroy all the globalist plans, because those plans are not accepted in Russian society even if Putin accepted them at one point. So what we have now is that Putin knows that the globalists want to destroy Russia and kill him, but he has surrounded himself by those same globalist by his own will because he was one of them for much of his rule. So it's a tricky situation for him: he will need to act but is fearful of the moment because when that moment arrives it will really have to be a major purge and not an arrest or two. First thing he will have to do is take control of CBR so to have the bank work in the interest of Russia. Nabiullina is praised allright, but by who? West praises her just like they praised Kudrin the so called "best finance minister of the world" or Yeltsin "the greatest democrat of the world" and Gorbachev "the great moron of the world". Funny how they always praise those who are destroying Russia. So praise by the west always mean "you are doing a great job destroying Russia, keep up the good work!"

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:42 pm

    Nikander wrote:CBR is not working for Russia, it's a private bank and  they couldn't care less about Russia. They are working for the globalist project and are taking their orders from IMF, FED or who the hell knows but certainly not from Putin. Putin didn't mind being part of this project but wanted Russia to be respected as a great power but was rejected. He was rejected for simple reason: Russia is simply too big, too rich, too influential and potentially to powerful to be part of the club. If they give Putin what he wants at any point Russia could become so strong to destroy all the globalist plans, because those plans are not accepted in Russian society even if Putin accepted them at one point. So what we have now is that Putin knows that the globalists want to destroy Russia and kill him, but he has surrounded himself by those same globalist by his own will because he was one of them for much of his rule. So it's a tricky situation for him: he will need to act but is fearful of the moment because when that moment arrives it will really have to be a major purge and not an arrest or two. First thing he will have to do is take control of CBR so to have the bank work in the interest of Russia. Nabiullina is praised allright, but by who? West praises her just like they praised Kudrin the so called "best finance minister of the world" or Yeltsin "the greatest democrat of the world" and Gorbachev "the great moron of the world". Funny how they always praise those who are destroying Russia. So praise by the west always mean "you are doing a great job destroying Russia, keep up the good work!"

    Been saying that for years here, do not wonder if you are ignored and have seen here many who praise the CBR liquidity plans right and left while ignoring and overseeing russian constitution that seperates CBR from russia as a private bank, the actions of CBR against russian interests and accounts of surplus.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:12 pm

    You two are definately right. CBR are a bunch of morons causing Russias decline. But it appears that it will never change because if it was, we would have seen change start to happen. But so far, Russian media praises her for her corruption and Putin has done f all about it. The economics minister seems to act the way he looks.... a moron.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #6

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:30 pm

    http://m.ria.ru/economy/20150917/1258210026.html?rubric=economy

    Here we have proof of economic minister being the same ilk as Kudrin. During tough times, instead of investing in the country, they are slowing down investments.... I think someone needs to knock sense into them. Lowering your own investments will cause nothing but trouble.

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