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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:31 am

    A S-300 battery is part of a system.

    As a unit on its own it does not come with the long wave radars needed to detect and track the F-22 at long range.

    This is not to say a long wave radar with that capability could not be set up and plugged in to an old S-300 system to provide the data necessary to engage small stealth aircraft and weapons.
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    Post  nemrod on Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:29 pm

    GarryB wrote:A S-300 battery is part of a system.

    As a unit on its own it does not come with the long wave radars needed to detect and track the F-22 at long range.

    This is not to say a long wave radar with that capability could not be set up and plugged in to an old S-300 system to provide the data necessary to engage small stealth aircraft and weapons.

    Thx for your answer.

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    Could someone explain ?

    Post  Ramos 2 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:56 am

    Israel airforce flies without any problem in Syrian's airspace . The Syrian air defence force : (Wikipedia)

    25 teams defense (130 batteries) Including:

    Self-propelled
    62 batteries:
    11 teams - 27 batteries - SA-6 Gainful (PU SAM 2K12 Square);
    14 Battery - SA-8 Gecko (PU SAM 9K33 Osa);
    12 Battery - SA-22 Greyhound (96K6 Pantsyr S1E);
    9 Battery - Buk-M2
    Towed
    11 teams - 60 batteries with SA-2 Guideline (CP-75 Dvina / S-75M Volga) and SA-3 Goa (S-125 Neva / S-125M Pechora) (Being upgraded);
    Two SAM regiment with SA-5 Gammon(in each brigade to 2 divisions for 2 batteries each).
    Four SAM battalion
    Eight Static/Shelter SAM batteries

    Two independent SAM Regiment
    Four SAM batteries with SA-8
    Four SAM batteries with SA-10

    These weapons don't seem to be very effective ! Could someone explain ?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:07 am

    Ramos 2 wrote:Israel airforce flies without any problem in Syrian's airspace . The Syrian air defence force : (Wikipedia)

    25 teams defense (130 batteries) Including:

       Self-propelled
           62 batteries:
               11 teams - 27 batteries - SA-6 Gainful (PU SAM 2K12 Square);
               14 Battery - SA-8 Gecko (PU SAM 9K33 Osa);
               12 Battery - SA-22 Greyhound (96K6 Pantsyr S1E);
               9 Battery - Buk-M2
       Towed
           11 teams - 60 batteries with SA-2 Guideline (CP-75 Dvina / S-75M Volga) and SA-3 Goa (S-125 Neva / S-125M Pechora) (Being upgraded);
       Two SAM regiment with SA-5 Gammon(in each brigade to 2 divisions for 2 batteries each).
           Four SAM battalion
               Eight Static/Shelter SAM batteries

       Two independent SAM Regiment
           Four SAM batteries with SA-8
           Four SAM batteries with SA-10

    These weapons don't seem to be very effective ! Could someone explain ?

    Nothing to do with them being efficient. Has to do with the whole GBAD being in sorry state and Syria being in a civil war. The ones that get a chance work good enough (Turkish planes shot down, Israeli PGM's).
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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  coolieno99 on Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:15 am

    Ramos 2 wrote:Israel airforce flies without any problem in Syrian's airspace .
    ..............................
    These weapons don't seem to be very effective ! Could someone explain ?

    The Arab missile crews were poorly trained and poorly led. Modern weapon systems still need a competent crew to operate it in a effective manner.

    Here's a Serbian crew showing the proper method to launched a SA-6 .

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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:02 pm

    No Cakewalk: Western Coalition in Syria Afraid of Russian SAM Systems

    US aircraft ceased all flights in Syria’s northern regions fearing the recently-deployed Russian Buk anti-aircraft missile systems (designated by the US Department of Defense as SA-17), according to Bloomberg.

    US military officials cited by the news agency claim that Russian air defense systems in Syria serve as another example of how Moscow and Damascus "seek to complicate the global counter-Daesh coalition’s air campaign."

    "The Russians are trying to create zones where they would have to give permission for US flights," said Matthew McInnis, a former Iran analyst for US Central Command, according to Bloomberg. "The Russians are increasingly defining the military landscape by their actions."

    At the present time, the US administration seems to be acquiescing to what they perceive as Russia’s attempts to keep US aircraft grounded, and "agree to their rules of the game," the news agency claims.

    "The success of any US-led effort to bring Assad to the negotiating table will depend on squeezing the Syrian regime. Yet at this crucial moment, the US is not only decreasing pressure, but acquiescing to Russian pressure," Bloomberg laments.

    Russia launched its airborne campaign against the Daesh forces in Syria on September 30 at the behest of President Bashar Assad. Following the downing of Russian Su-24 warplane in Syrian airspace by Turkish forces, Moscow has dramatically increased its anti-aircraft capabilities in the region to ensure safety of its forces.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151219/1032026007/syria-russia-air-defense.html#ixzz3urjZ2Wvz

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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E on Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:58 pm

    Ramos 2 wrote:Israel airforce flies without any problem in Syrian's airspace . The Syrian air defence force : (Wikipedia)

    25 teams defense (130 batteries) Including:

       Self-propelled
           62 batteries:
               11 teams - 27 batteries - SA-6 Gainful (PU SAM 2K12 Square);
               14 Battery - SA-8 Gecko (PU SAM 9K33 Osa);
               12 Battery - SA-22 Greyhound (96K6 Pantsyr S1E);
               9 Battery - Buk-M2
       Towed
           11 teams - 60 batteries with SA-2 Guideline (CP-75 Dvina / S-75M Volga) and SA-3 Goa (S-125 Neva / S-125M Pechora) (Being upgraded);
       Two SAM regiment with SA-5 Gammon(in each brigade to 2 divisions for 2 batteries each).
           Four SAM battalion
               Eight Static/Shelter SAM batteries

       Two independent SAM Regiment
           Four SAM batteries with SA-8
           Four SAM batteries with SA-10

    These weapons don't seem to be very effective ! Could someone explain ?
    All attacks of the IDF be started either on the Golan or Lebanon by F-16i with Spice. The IDF does not fly to Syria hinnein (SA-15 / SA 22). The Killzone is so about 60 up to 80 km (Damaskus) from the border.

    Other:
    Syria should get sponsored by China, Iran and Russia 240 (per year 2x11 2x1 UB) FC-1 Block II fighter planes with 9 ZDK-03 (Y-8 Awacs ) for a 3x8h / 365 days airspace patrol. These 40 additional Y-8 transport and aerial refueling.

    This enables a fast response to the IDF and others as well as optimum air reconnaissance. Not to be underestimated is also the number of flight hours that are achieved with the low FC-1 / Y-8 in a 24/365 (with FC-1 6x4h and air refueling )day mode. This includes approximately 150 hours per year for the FC-1 pilots what is particular important to look at in terms of training and skills against the IDF.

    As a training and ground attack aircraft Russia should provide a total of 240 Yak-130 Syria ready. These aircraft are very low per flight hour and to act well suited to the ground effectively.
    Possibly still supplement with 48 Su-25M3 later.


    All other aircraft should Syria, including Su-24 and Mig-29, scrapping. Although the MiG-29 or later 24 Mig-35 than would be well rounded Syria should konzentireren few cheap but effective modern aircraft. Important Only the SAM network is to make much denser.

    The investment cost will be around 1.6 billion US dollars per year for a program over 20 years inclusive armament and training. The maintenance is about once 500 to 800 million US Dolllar.

    Especially the people militias should get more SA-22nd More 40-60 systems would be here as much sense as more TorM2U and BukM3 and SA-20 / S-300PMU2 from Russian army surplus (see Iran 2016).


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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:50 pm

    Syrians deployed S-200







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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  Airman on Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:08 am

    Ramos 2 wrote:Israel airforce flies without any problem in Syrian's airspace .
    Because Israeli Air Force is using electronic warfare aircrafts and ECM pods against Enemy Air Defense. They are realy good about Electronic Warfare. They usually uses G550. This G550's modified for Electronic Warfare.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard

    Like this. Israel Air Force bombed nuclear site in Deir ez-Zor. After They bombed radar site in Tall al-Abuad. This town near the Turkey border and They jettisoned fuel tanks over the Hatay and Gaziantep provinces in Turkey and They returned to Israel.

    and Air defense systems in Syria didnt do anything against it...

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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:12 pm

    Israeli Air Force strikes at S-200 surface-to-air missile system position in Syria

    According to the official press-attaché of the IDF, today (10/16/17) at about 10 am the Air Force aircraft attacked the battery of the S-200 long-range SAM (SA-5 Gammon), located in the Radwan area, 50 kilometers east of Damascus. Earlier, this air defense system fired Israeli F-16 aircraft, which carried out a photo-reconnaissance mission over the territory of Lebanon. He also fired on Israeli aircraft in September and March this year. And although in all cases the fire of the SAM was ineffective, the aircraft returned to their bases without damage, this time it was decided to destroy the SAM.



    Within the framework of the attack on the S-200, 4 air bombs (apparently controlled with a long range of flight) were dropped, the SAM "was put out of order". Israel sees in the Syrian army (SAA) responsible for any fire on Israeli targets from the territory of Syria, but in the case of the S-200 there is no doubt that the fire was conducted by the air defense forces of the SAA. According to the Syrian data, the launch of the rocket on Israeli planes was at 08:51, the attack of the S-200 at 11:38. The 2 nd and 10 th channels of the ITV report that the Russian military were notified of the Israeli attack "in real time". By the way, today the Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu is arriving in Israel on a two-day visit.

    The S-200 arrived in Syria in 1983 with Soviet personnel, transferred to the Syrian Armed Forces in 1984. Syria has an S-200VE S-200VE air defense system "Vega-E" (maximum range of 240 km), photos can be seen on the blog "The Cave of the Evil One Bukvoyoda. " Estimates of the number of S-200s in Syria before 2011 were in 8 SAMs and 48 PUs (6 PUs per SAM). According to other sources, until the early 90's. Syria received 8 SAMs (4 each in 1984 and 1988), 4 technical divisions for their maintenance, 144 B-880E missiles plus 20 training missiles. Apparently, part of Syrian S-200s were damaged or destroyed during the civil war, however, new supplies from Russia or Iran are not excluded.

    One more remark. Some sites (for example, israeldefense) say that the battery was "destroyed" or "bombed". I note that each S-200 division has 6 PU 5P72, a K-2B booth, a K-3B preparation cockpit, a K21B distribution booth, a 5E67 diesel power plant, 12 5U24 automatic loading machines with rockets and an antenna post K-1V with radar of the target illumination 5Н62В. In addition, additional radars, such as P-14, P-15, P-35 or P-37, are used for the early detection of targets. The anti-aircraft missile regiment usually consists of 3-4 divisions and one technical battalion, in the case of Syria, there are apparently anti-aircraft missile brigades with two fire and one technical divisions in each. Thus, to destroy even only one fire division is not easy enough. Nevertheless, for its disabling it is enough to hit the radar of the target illumination 5Н62В. According to the site walla, this particular radar was struck. By the way, the website of the IDF says that the SAM was "attacked" and "put out of order".

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2898251.html
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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:54 pm

    Syrian anti-aircraft systems

    The Ministry of Defense of Syria distributed an excellent video with personnel close to and from the control booths of the latest air defense systems of Syria - Buk-M2E and Pantsir-S1, and not only them.

    ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" air defense of Syria in the version with a new SOTS S-band search radar






    ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" air defense of Syria in the version with the "old" radar




    The shot containers of the "Pantsir" rockets





    Buk-M2E SAM





    Somewhere in the command post of air defense




    Well, it looks like the first frames of the "Strelets" launch module in Syria.





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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:20 am

    Syria has received a division of anti-aircraft missile system S-300

    On October 2, 2018, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin held an operational meeting with the permanent members of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, during which Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported on the delivery of the S-300 complex and other equipment to enhance the security of Russian military in Syria. They also discussed current issues on the domestic Russian agenda.



    Beginning of Meeting with Permanent Members of the Security Council

    V.Putin: Dear colleagues, good evening!

    Before we turn to the main issue that we wanted to discuss today, I would ask the Minister of Defense to report on how my assignment for Syria is being fulfilled. Sergey Kuzhugetovich, please.

    S.Shoigu: Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Dear colleagues!

    In accordance with the decision of the President, we have embarked on a number of measures aimed at strengthening the air defense systems in the Syrian Arab Republic, including, above all, the protection of our military personnel.

    We have completed the delivery of S-300 complexes. This includes 49 pieces of equipment: lighting locators, basic detection systems, control vehicles and four launchers. Work completed a day ago. We have completed the delivery of the entire complex to Syria.

    In addition, we significantly strengthened and switched on the electronic warfare system, added additional equipment there. As a result, today we control the near zone up to 50 kilometers and the far zone, the main direction from which we entered the Syrian territory, we control 200 kilometers.

    As for the unified control system of the entire air defense network, we also began to supply equipment. We will complete all the work with the preparation and training of crews and tying them into a single network by October 20.

    V.Putin: How much time will it take to train the crews and crews of the Syrian army to work on the S-300?

    S.Shoigu: Three months.

    V.Putin: Thank you.

    S.Shoigu: We also completed the selection of the necessary personnel, specialists and started training.

    Vladimir Putin: Ok, thanks.

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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  hoom on Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:51 am

    Can someone explain what is in an S-300 Division?

    Some reports are saying Russia has supplied '4 launchers' or '12 vehicles', others A Division.
    Charly015 did a good article about the options http://charly015.blogspot.com/2018/09/que-cambia-la-entrada-en-escena-de-la-s.html

    12 vehicles would be just

    but surely that'd be described as 8 launchers or 2 firing units?
    Not enough to protect much at all.


    The BMPD quote says 49 vehicles which sounds more like Charly015 depiction of 2 Regiments

    which would actually be a serious amount of kit, 46 vehicles depicted there not 49 though.
    Maybe extra 3 are command/radar units to split one battallion into 2*4 covering 2 far flung areas?
    Or just extra command stuff to help integrate?

    Even the higher end would presumably have to be spread pretty thin to provide good coverage or be concentrated in 1 or 2 spots to provide defense against the kind of saturation Israel/US are capable of.
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    Post  Isos on Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:34 am

    You also need other vehicles for maintenance and logistic. It's not 49 vehicles that are only launchers and radars and command posts.

    They said 4 launchers so it's on s300 that may consist of 1 long range radae, 1 engagement rdar and 4 launcher and command post. Then you have reloads + other components. Maybe some more pantsirs and buks too.

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    Post  hoom on Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:54 am

    They said 4 launchers so it's on s300 that may consist of 1 long range radae, 1 engagement rdar and 4 launcher and command post.
    But if its just that then its not going to defend anything much, maybe Damascus but it'll be easy to saturate.

    I guess it could be mainly another warning level to Israel: you pissed us off so some S-300 delivered, its not enough to really hamper you attacking Iran which we're not here to be involved with but each time you piss us off again we'll deliver another firing unit.

    But if its only 4 launcher trucks then why have there been such an abnormally large number of An-124 & Il-76 flights? The reported numbers seem too large for only that minimal level of gear.
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    Post  Isos on Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:15 pm

    hoom wrote:
    They said 4 launchers so it's on s300 that may consist of 1 long range radae, 1 engagement rdar and 4 launcher and command post.
    But if its just that then its not going to defend anything much, maybe Damascus but it'll be easy to saturate.

    I guess it could be mainly another warning level to Israel: you pissed us off so some S-300 delivered, its not enough to really hamper you attacking Iran which we're not here to be involved with but each time you piss us off again we'll deliver another firing unit.

    But if its only 4 launcher trucks then why have there been such an abnormally large number of An-124 & Il-76 flights? The reported numbers seem too large for only that minimal level of gear.

    For now its a russian system procting russians. Syrian can't use it because of lack of training. They can send 500 s-300, if no one can use it they are useless. Once they are trained, tgey will send some more.

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    Post  Labrador on Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:48 pm

    hoom wrote:
    They said 4 launchers so it's on s300 that may consist of 1 long range radae, 1 engagement rdar and 4 launcher and command post.
    But if its just that then its not going to defend anything much, maybe Damascus but it'll be easy to saturate.

    I guess it could be mainly another warning level to Israel: you pissed us off so some S-300 delivered, its not enough to really hamper you attacking Iran which we're not here to be involved with but each time you piss us off again we'll deliver another firing unit.

    But if its only 4 launcher trucks then why have there been such an abnormally large number of An-124 & Il-76 flights? The reported numbers seem too large for only that minimal level of gear.

    Syria has received a division of anti-aircraft missile system S-300 wrote:

    Agree, indeed few thinking 2 - 4 Bns Russian designation is Division it is lso a system normaly 8 TELs etc...
    For me S-300PS replaced by S-400s Belorussia and Kazakhstan had received recently or S-300PMU2 normaly ordered severals years ago

    Meantime i see at least three An-124-100 have rotated to ensure deliveries but i can' t copy and translate … i see 200 it is a range, range of the S-300PMU2 ...
    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5629027








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    Post  Labrador on Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:56 pm

    Ramos 2 wrote:Israel airforce flies without any problem in Syrian's airspace . The Syrian air defence force : (Wikipedia)

    25 teams defense (130 batteries) Including:

       Self-propelled
           62 batteries:
               11 teams - 27 batteries - SA-6 Gainful (PU SAM 2K12 Square);
               14 Battery - SA-8 Gecko (PU SAM 9K33 Osa);
               12 Battery - SA-22 Greyhound (96K6 Pantsyr S1E);
               9 Battery - Buk-M2
       Towed
           11 teams - 60 batteries with SA-2 Guideline (CP-75 Dvina / S-75M Volga) and SA-3 Goa (S-125 Neva / S-125M Pechora) (Being upgraded);
       Two SAM regiment with SA-5 Gammon(in each brigade to 2 divisions for 2 batteries each).
           Four SAM battalion
               Eight Static/Shelter SAM batteries

       Two independent SAM Regiment
           Four SAM batteries with SA-8
           Four SAM batteries with SA-10

    These weapons don't seem to be very effective ! Could someone explain ?
    I have also ~ 1000 SAMs ! don't include MANPADS lol
    Majority very old and not good to deal with modern ECM systems but still very numerous

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    Post  Labrador on Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:02 pm

    Woow ! almost sure S-300PMU2
    https://twitter.com/CagataiTemuchin/status/1047453335647932417
    https://twitter.com/Rafal_Ralph1989/status/1047478693206142982

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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:02 am

    The S-300 is a very capable missile, but the important thing is that they are not just sending S-300 they are giving them an integrated air defence system... IADS... that means each battery is not just looking at its own radar view of the battlespace and each battery is not working on its own to protect its own little piece of territory.

    What it means is that all the batteries are linked together and get a shared picture of what is out there... it means that once detected a target will get a unified label across all batteries so when there are 4 F-16s all batteries will see 4 F-16s, and if there are civilian aircraft using civilian transponder signals they will also be clearly displayed in the system as civilian aircraft... Russian aircraft will be displayed as Russian aircraft... US aircraft not transmitting signals will be displayed as not being civilian aircraft and potentially hostile... US aircraft transmitting the agreed signal will appear as neutral, Israeli aircraft faking US transmitter codes will appear as neutral too.

    If an Israeli aircraft using US codes attacks a Syrian target now then all US aircraft would be put at risk of coming under fire... but the point is that it is not just the local battery making decisions or tracking targets... there is a management system that keeps track of aircraft in Syria from take off to landing that should be able to detect targets well out into the Med and Israeli territorial airspace.

    When they spot a target that appears to launch standoff weapons against Syrian military targets shorter ranged missiles can be used to engage the incoming weapons while heavier long range missiles can be used to deal with the launch platforms... Israeli aircraft approaching Syrian airspace from the med can be warned not to enter Syrian airspace... if they fail to comply then shots can be fired if deemed necessary... they could launch S-300s or they could launch S-125s for low level threats like standoff missiles.
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    Post  LMFS on Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:35 am

    GarryB wrote:The S-300 is a very capable missile, but the important thing is that they are not just sending S-300 they are giving them an integrated air defence system... IADS... that means each battery is not just looking at its own radar view of the battlespace and each battery is not working on its own to protect its own little piece of territory.

    What it means is that all the batteries are linked together and get a shared picture of what is out there... it means that once detected a target will get a unified label across all batteries so when there are 4 F-16s all batteries will see 4 F-16s, and if there are civilian aircraft using civilian transponder signals they will also be clearly displayed in the system as civilian aircraft... Russian aircraft will be displayed as Russian aircraft... US aircraft not transmitting signals will be displayed as not being civilian aircraft and potentially hostile... US aircraft transmitting the agreed signal will appear as neutral, Israeli aircraft faking US transmitter codes will appear as neutral too.

    If an Israeli aircraft using US codes attacks a Syrian target now then all US aircraft would be put at risk of coming under fire... but the point is that it is not just the local battery making decisions or tracking targets... there is a management system that keeps track of aircraft in Syria from take off to landing that should be able to detect targets well out into the Med and Israeli territorial airspace.

    When they spot a target that appears to launch standoff weapons against Syrian military targets shorter ranged missiles can be used to engage the incoming weapons while heavier long range missiles can be used to deal with the launch platforms... Israeli aircraft approaching Syrian airspace from the med can be warned not to enter Syrian airspace... if they fail to comply then shots can be fired if deemed necessary... they could launch S-300s or they could launch S-125s for low level threats like standoff missiles.
    Exactly, the whole system is much, much more than the sum of the individual batteries due to the new IAD structure. This can allow things as potentially advantageous under the current threats as for instance keeping many radars silent while the feed from Russian ones keeps the picture of the airspace updated. Targeting IAF from Russian radars would of course not be acceptable but the Syrian ones would only need to work intermittently before moving, making it essentially impossible for IAF to hunt them down.

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    Post  Labrador on Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:16 pm

    GarryB wrote:The S-300 is a very capable missile, but the important thing is that they are not just sending S-300 they are giving them an integrated air defence system... IADS... that means each battery is not just looking at its own radar view of the battlespace and each battery is not working on its own to protect its own little piece of territory.

    What it means is that all the batteries are linked together and get a shared picture of what is out there... it means that once detected a target will get a unified label across all batteries so when there are 4 F-16s all batteries will see 4 F-16s, and if there are civilian aircraft using civilian transponder signals they will also be clearly displayed in the system as civilian aircraft... Russian aircraft will be displayed as Russian aircraft... US aircraft not transmitting signals will be displayed as not being civilian aircraft and potentially hostile... US aircraft transmitting the agreed signal will appear as neutral, Israeli aircraft faking US transmitter codes will appear as neutral too.

    If an Israeli aircraft using US codes attacks a Syrian target now then all US aircraft would be put at risk of coming under fire... but the point is that it is not just the local battery making decisions or tracking targets... there is a management system that keeps track of aircraft in Syria from take off to landing that should be able to detect targets well out into the Med and Israeli territorial airspace.

    When they spot a target that appears to launch standoff weapons against Syrian military targets shorter ranged missiles can be used to engage the incoming weapons while heavier long range missiles can be used to deal with the launch platforms... Israeli aircraft approaching Syrian airspace from the med can be warned not to enter Syrian airspace... if they fail to comply then shots can be fired if deemed necessary... they could launch S-300s or they could launch S-125s for low level threats like standoff missiles.

    Yes but matters of range and missiles which can be fired vs one attack considering during about 30 mn.

    Even if you add the maximum number of targets which be engaged normaly 6 by S-300 Bn and considering as you say by ex severals Radars can be linked so x the number,
    the numbers of misssiles ready limit the number of targets which can be destroyed… during one attack, TELs have "only" 4 missiles and need at less 30 mn to reload the missile do about 2 tons !
    and one Bn engage to 200 km not all the Syria.

    For it by ex advantage of one SAMP/T TEL with 8 missiles on the TEL and do only 600 kg but ofc less good but transportable by C-130 much more easy than S-300/400 heavy systems and big trucks which need at less a IL-76 or An-124 ?
    Remains ofc initialy desingned for defend Mother Russia… and not expeditionary SAMs
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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  George1 on Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:17 pm

    Russia donated three battalions of the S-300PM anti-aircraft missile system to Syria

    As the TASS news agency reported on October 8, 2018, Russia donated to Syria three divisions of the S-300PM anti-aircraft missile system consisting of eight launchers each. This was reported TASS military-diplomatic source.


    Unloading of the An-124 military transport aircraft at the Hmeimim airbase at the 48H6E airbase S-300PM anti-aircraft missile systems transmitted to Syria by the Russian side, 10/01/2018 (c) video from the Ministry of Defense of Russia

    “On October 1, the delivery of three S-300PM divisions to Syria consisting of eight launchers each was completed,” the agency’s source said.

    "The equipment was previously in service with one of the anti-aircraft missile regiments of the Air and Space Forces of Russia, re-equipped with the S-400 Triumph system, it was overhauled at Russian defense enterprises, fully operational and capable of performing combat missions," the source said. that S-300PM "transferred to the Syrian side at no cost."

    According to him, "along with the launchers, a mobile ammunition package consisting of more than 100 anti-aircraft missiles for each division was delivered to Syria."

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3369899.html

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    Post  hoom on Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:23 am

    Well thats more like it, indeed more like this afterall (minus 4 launchers)

    That means several areas can be covered with decent density
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    Re: Syrian Air Defence Force

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:26 am

    "On October 1, three battalion sets of S-300PM systems of eight launchers each were delivered to Syria," the source said.

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/1025020

    3 battallions x 8 launchers = 24 launchers = 6 mobile launcher vehicles

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