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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:53 am

    Another Nusra fighter posted pic with his "New toys" which he obtained via Division 30 weapon handout.
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    Post  ultron on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:54 am

    Militarov wrote:Another Nusra fighter posted pic with his "New toys" which he obtained via Division 30 weapon handout.
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    The US arms jihadists to kill Russian people. Americans are bad people.
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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:11 am

    The Levant Front or Jabhat al-Shamiyya released photo of what they claim is ISIS drone they shot above Aleppo:

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 Qo1lerU
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    "Drone" in question is X-UAV Talon obtainable online for less than 100$ apparently.

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 64537

    "The Talon FPV V-tail Drone is an all EPO moulded airframe. The kit comes un-assembled with EPO and laser cut plywood parts. This version 2 of the Talon has strengthened plywood wing saddle/carbon support parts, and additional plywood pieces for easier FPV equipment mounting. Less guess work on your part. Also, the front wheel plywood mount has been strengthened to survive less than perfect arrivals better.
    With a 4S 14.8V 10,000mAh LiPoly battery, flight times are long, and wing loading still low thanks to the generous wing area of the Talon. A generous fuselage compartment with large top hatch and removable nose bubble allows you to access your FPV equipment and flight battery in any configuration you choose. It is an open canvas for your FPV needs.

    Features:

    • Kit - All assembly and equipment installation required
    • Moulded EPO airframe
    • Laser cut plywood motor mount and wing saddle frame
    • Version 2 Talon features strengthened ply parts and improved equipment mounting options
    • Removable nose bubble for quick access to camera equipement.
    • Large fuselage compartment accomodates many battery and FPV equipement configurations.
    • Two Piece plug-in wings with carbon wing tube
    • Detachable outrigger wheels

    Specs:
    Wingspan: 1718mm
    Length: 1100mm
    Flying Weight: 2500-3000g
    Wing Area: 60 sq. dm.
    Requires:
    4+ Channel Transmitter and Receiver w/ V-tail mixing
    4S 14.8V 5000-10000mAh LiPoly Battery
    2 x 9g Servos
    2 x 17g Servos
    3648 1100KV Brushless Motor
    12 Inch or less diameter propeller
    70A Brushless Speed Control"


    Source: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__64537__X_UAV_Talon_FPV_V_tail_Drone_EPO_1718mm_Kit_V2.html



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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:38 am

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    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:44 am

    I think there must be a plan for a coordinated counter attack, Syrian forces from west, and Kurdish from the north and east, with Russian air cover..
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:55 am

    Jihadists are no Ukrainians. They are not afraid to die. They will not stop until you are dead or converted.

    They stop when they are dead.

    this will be a very good way for the Russians to test some of their tactics and systems... UAVs and UCAVs will be valuable in this situation with Assads forces providing the ground force and air power being used to help I would expect the Iranians and Iraqis and Syrians to all work together to deal with ISIS and Al quada... whether the Kurds help or get in the way will be interesting.

    I assume Turkey wants ISIS gone more than it wants Assad gone so there is ground to deal there... the issue of kurdish forces might not appeal to turkey, Iran, Iraq, or Syria, but some sort of autonomy arrangement might be agreed to.

    The FN MAG and FN Minimi are inferior to the PKM... they can have them.
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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:14 am

    Full item in other thread. My highlight

    According to Fox News quoting a high-ranking US official, Russia has demanded that US airplanes immediately leave Syria.

    Russia, Iran, Iraq, and Syria have recently created an information center in Baghdad in order to coordinate the fight against the Islamic State. The information center’s main goals are to provide reconnaissance on the number of IS militants, their weapons, and their movements. Earlier this week, it was revealed that the new center would begin operations in October or November and be headed by Russian, Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian officers on a three-month rotational basis.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150930/1027761651/russian-armed-forces-abroad.html#ixzz3nDACXt1E
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    Post  Stealthflanker on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:55 am

    So..will there be a chance to see BMPT-Terminator rolls down the Syrian Urbans ?

    and preferrably in trained Russian hands to mo up those rebel terrorists.
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    Post  Flyboy77 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:00 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:So..will there be a chance to see BMPT-Terminator rolls down the Syrian Urbans ?

    and preferrably in trained Russian hands to mo up those rebel terrorists.

    Not going to happen because Russia hasn't ordered any BMPT yet.
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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:29 pm

    Famous "White Helmets" are "Syria Civil Defence are 2,709 volunteer search and rescue workers from local communities who risk their lives to save others and bring hope. 30,000+ lives saved" they apparently have strong ties with Al Nusra judging by their Twitter account and some reports.

    Examples of their tweets (mainly aganist Assad and Russia, very rarely aganist ISIS even tho they are supposed to be besieged by them):

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 97Xo4Za

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 5Km7H4c

    Their official Twitter account: https://twitter.com/SyriaCivilDef
    Their official Webpage: https://www.whitehelmets.org - Quite neat design for someone who is built on volonteur basis in wartorn country i expected 10 lines of HTML and Tables.

    They have been already caught lying tho as i posted on other topic:
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 KBWI0pJ
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 ElOOKM6

    But what IS very interesting to me is this:

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 CQLGfxSVAAA4vXc
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 CQLGf25UYAANEmu
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 CQLGf29VEAAzoot
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    Seems they are participating in more than just "Humanitarian aid and rescue".
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    Post  mutantsushi on Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:35 pm

    Flyboy77 wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:So..will there be a chance to see BMPT-Terminator rolls down the Syrian Urbans ?
    and preferrably in trained Russian hands to mo up those rebel terrorists.
    Not going to happen because Russia hasn't ordered any BMPT yet.
    In trained Kazakh hands then?
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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:38 pm

    mutantsushi wrote:
    Flyboy77 wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:So..will there be a chance to see BMPT-Terminator rolls down the Syrian Urbans ?
    and preferrably in trained Russian hands to mo up those rebel terrorists.
    Not going to happen because Russia hasn't ordered any BMPT yet.
    In trained Kazakh hands then?

    Thing is that no more than 10 BMPT-72s were built in total for Russia. I belive 10 was made for Kazakhstan and thats it. Beside few prototypes for state tests none are in existence or actual service.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:33 pm

    Militarov wrote:Famous "White Helmets" are "Syria Civil Defence are 2,709 volunteer search and rescue workers from local communities who risk their lives to save others and bring hope. 30,000+ lives saved" they apparently have strong ties with Al Nusra judging by their Twitter account and some reports.

    Examples of their tweets (mainly aganist Assad and Russia, very rarely aganist ISIS even tho they are supposed to be besieged by them):

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 97Xo4Za

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 5Km7H4c

    Their official Twitter account: https://twitter.com/SyriaCivilDef
    Their official Webpage: https://www.whitehelmets.org - Quite neat design for someone who is built on volonteur basis in wartorn country i expected 10 lines of HTML and Tables.

    They have been already caught lying tho as i posted on other topic:
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 KBWI0pJ
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 ElOOKM6

    But what IS very interesting to me is this:

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 CQLGfxSVAAA4vXc
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 CQLGf25UYAANEmu
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 CQLGf29VEAAzoot
    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 CQLGf24UkAEMQbW

    Seems they are participating in more than just "Humanitarian aid and rescue".

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!
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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:33 pm

    "Believe it or not, American soldiers fighting against ISIS in Syria and Iraq will actually be wearing the emblem of ISIS – the infamous crossed-swords logo. Well, almost.

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 ISIS-logo

    Controversy has stirred because many think the patch looks too much like our boys are fighting for the enemy… just another sign of confusion about the counterproductive Obama-led war against the notorious and shamefully exploitative jihadist army. “A combat patch worn by U.S. soldiers who served in Iraq on the mission against Islamic State is drawing flak from service members and veterans who say the patch — with its palm wreath, stars and crossed scimitars — looks like something the enemy would wear.”
    Site like JihadWatch are arguing that the:

    “new U.S. Army patch for fight against the Islamic State closely resembles Muslim Brotherhood logo.”
    While the Islamic State is using barbaric tactics to remake the Middle East closer to its own vision of a Caliphate, the United States and its allies also seek to remake the Middle East, and use the  specter of terrorism to aid in regime change in Syria and elsewhere. The triangulation and cross-purposes are both confusing and aggravating to many Americans."


    Source: http://www.infowars.com/new-patch-for-u-s-troops-fighting-isis-looks-like-isis-logo/

    The Army's patch for Operation Inherent Resolve:

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 Operation-inherent-resolve-army-patch

    "The US Army has debuted a new shoulder patch that soldiers in Iraq can wear to represent their role in the ongoing fight against ISIS, USA Today reports. The patch features crossed scimitars, three stars, and a palm wreath. According to USA Today, the three stars denote the US land, air, and sea forces involved in the fight against ISIS.

    The palm wreath is meant to symbolize honor, while the crossed swords evoke the twin goals of the ongoing operations: the defeat of ISIS and the restoration of stability in the region. Currently, there are over 3,000 US Army personnel deployed in Iraq. These soldiers have not been deployed in combat roles; instead, they provide training to the Iraqi Security Forces and help coordinate air strikes against ISIS positions.  The patch will only be available for US Army soldiers. The other service branches of the military are also participating in Operation Inherent Resolve against ISIS but will reportedly not be receiving patches. "


    “Unit insignia is important because it fosters esprit de corps," the operation's spokesman told USA Today. "The CJTF-OIR [Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve] headquarters is made up of men and women from all services, many nations and many different units in the Army. This insignia will be worn by all of the Army members of the CJTF and may be authorized for wear by other services and nations according to their regulations.”

    Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/armys-shoulder-patch-for-the-war-against-isis-2015-9
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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:37 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!

    Haha, ty for appreciation respekt
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:45 pm

    hi all, just wanted to see what peoples views are.

    I know previously on here there was mention of Iran taking the south, Russia taking on Hama, and certain parts of Alepo etc. etc,

    i wonder if there plan is eventually to link up to Deir ez Zor in the east as its still isolated, i know Hasakah is a bit to far to reach. So whats peoples view on Assad's/Russia's/Iran's intentions for Syria????? create a split in the country with the west a new Syria or to take back whole of Syria???? my personal opinion is the first option is probably going to be the likely outcome, i suppose a third option would be for the Syrian government to make a deal with the Kurds tht if they help the Syrian government then they would promise them the eastern part of Syria that they could create there their own Kurdish state. (at the disgust of Turkey) only problem i can see with this option is turkey would more than likely want to invade and destroy the newly formed state, so maybe the Syrian government could allow to form a semi autonomous state within Syria.

    any views on the future of Syria would be great,
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:57 pm

    hi anyone seen this, i know its not the most reliable source.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/29/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-idUSKCN0RT11H20150929


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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:58 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!

    Haha, ty for appreciation respekt

    Dunno if you are still pissed at me, but I had to give you a +1 for that. As well, i did spread your message to major Canadian news site.
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    Post  Guest on Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:03 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!

    Haha, ty for appreciation respekt

    Dunno if you are still pissed at me, but I had to give you a +1 for that.  As well, i did spread your message to major Canadian news site.

    Naaa man, i met ultron and Vann, after that i cant be pissed at anyone. Very Happy Nice, sharing is caring.
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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:05 am

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!

    Haha, ty for appreciation respekt

    Dunno if you are still pissed at me, but I had to give you a +1 for that.  As well, i did spread your message to major Canadian news site.

    Naaa man, i met ultron and Vann, after that i cant be pissed at anyone. Very Happy Nice, sharing is caring.

    great to know I cant be the worst Smile

    Anyway, fantastic posts! I am extremely impressed and well, saddened at the same time after reading CBC and the idiots who falls for the US Propaganda on this whole ordeal.
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    Post  Guest on Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:09 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!

    Haha, ty for appreciation respekt

    Dunno if you are still pissed at me, but I had to give you a +1 for that.  As well, i did spread your message to major Canadian news site.

    Naaa man, i met ultron and Vann, after that i cant be pissed at anyone. Very Happy Nice, sharing is caring.

    great to know I cant be the worst Smile

    Anyway, fantastic posts! I am extremely impressed and well, saddened at the same time after reading CBC and the idiots who falls for the US Propaganda on this whole ordeal.

    Ty, doing my best, however finding legit sources is trouble these days in all this propaganda war mess, nets of lies and fake reports, photoshopped images and cutout videos..

    And yeah, it is very sad that people fall for stuff that various "rebel", "democratic" and "freedom fighter" groups release and claim.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:37 am

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!

    Haha, ty for appreciation respekt

    Dunno if you are still pissed at me, but I had to give you a +1 for that.  As well, i did spread your message to major Canadian news site.

    Naaa man, i met ultron and Vann, after that i cant be pissed at anyone. Very Happy Nice, sharing is caring.

    great to know I cant be the worst Smile

    Anyway, fantastic posts! I am extremely impressed and well, saddened at the same time after reading CBC and the idiots who falls for the US Propaganda on this whole ordeal.

    Ty, doing my best, however finding legit sources is trouble these days in all this propaganda war mess, nets of lies and fake reports, photoshopped images and cutout videos..

    And yeah, it is very sad that people fall for stuff that various "rebel", "democratic" and "freedom fighter" groups release and claim.

    I'm sure those White Helmets™️ sleep in USAID­®️ tents...

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    Post  Guest on Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:47 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Good God man!!! Someone should give this man a upvote!

    Haha, ty for appreciation respekt

    Dunno if you are still pissed at me, but I had to give you a +1 for that.  As well, i did spread your message to major Canadian news site.

    Naaa man, i met ultron and Vann, after that i cant be pissed at anyone. Very Happy Nice, sharing is caring.

    great to know I cant be the worst Smile

    Anyway, fantastic posts! I am extremely impressed and well, saddened at the same time after reading CBC and the idiots who falls for the US Propaganda on this whole ordeal.

    Ty, doing my best, however finding legit sources is trouble these days in all this propaganda war mess, nets of lies and fake reports, photoshopped images and cutout videos..

    And yeah, it is very sad that people fall for stuff that various "rebel", "democratic" and "freedom fighter" groups release and claim.

    I'm sure those White Helmets™️ sleep in USAID­®️ tents...

    Syrian Civil War: News #2 - Page 12 USAID

    You know nothing John Snow Very Happy

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    Post  mutantsushi on Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:01 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:hi all, just wanted to see what peoples views are.
    I know previously on here there was mention of Iran taking the south, Russia taking on Hama, and certain parts of Alepo etc. etc,
    i wonder if there plan is eventually to link up to Deir ez Zor in the east as its still isolated, i know Hasakah is a bit to far to reach.
    So whats peoples view on Assad's/Russia's/Iran's intentions for Syria?????
    create a split in the country with the west a new Syria or to take back whole of Syria????
    Hi, I think you can find public RU statements saying their goal is a unified Syria.

    As far as eastern part of country, it seems that how the Iraqi war with ISIS proceeds will play a major part one way or another,` esp. longer term.
    But if ISIS is strongly engaged on both fronts, I see DeZ/Hasakah fronts not being a focus for either side and not changing much in shorter term.
    Removing ISIS from eastern flanks of Hama/Homs does allow re-establishing road to DeZ, but that doesn't mean DeZ front suddenly shifts or escalates.
    (I beleive once Hama/Homs flank is taken care of, poss. DeZ road re-established, focus will be on Idlib, Aleppo, Daraa more so then DeZ/Hasakah)

    Not necessarily re: eastern Syria front, but one question is if Iraqi militia e.g. Kata'ib Hezbollah further engage in Syria, esp. if sidelined by Baghdad*. (e.g. Ramadi)
    * Baghdad tension with Iran playing major part here, although new Russian role in anti-ISIS coalition presents new dynamic possibilities.
    I had believed a joint-ops center was being set up in Baghdad also, but that is apparently only intelligence sharing, not ops coordination.
    How the entry of Russia into Syria, and potentially Iraq, affects the US/Iraq/Hashd/Iran conflictive dynamic will be interesting to say the

    The Kurds are another aspect, and far from simple IMHO. Notably Russia has included them (PKK/YPG) in statements referring to their coalition.
    I think this must be considered in backdrop of Turkey, i.e. if TK escalates (directly/mujahideen) then RU supplies to PKK can be used "wherever".
    Kurdish role is rather ambiguous over all though, f.e. recent news from Aleppo involving their cooperation/"neutrality" with anti-Assad rebels (non-ISIS).
    I do think Russian role here will be important, as with Iraq/Hashd/Iran dynamic, being a more "neutral" 3rd party mediating solutions for conflictive groups.

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