sepheronx wrote:No, we do not know if Dark matter exists, hence why we are trying to discover it (we assume it does). We also assume a black hole exists due to particles dissapearing quite rapidly, so it went from a black hole being believed to be a gateway to now a naked singularity. A lot of theories have changed, even in my short existence. Nothing wrong with thaylt really. But many people failed to acknowledge that it also requires a form of faith for a bliefe, even for a hypothesis. So discounting one for the other is silly. And as said before, god is a noun used to represent something. Doesnt mean it is a bearded fellow in the sky.
Belief exists everywhere. But there are many kinds of belief and each kind is different from each other. Scientific belief is different from religious belief.
sepheronx wrote:As well, please do not be certain about yourself on history. As we barely even know various timelines of the last couple thousand years. We are still discovering lost cities. So dont act like you know, cause no one really does. Which is even more pathetic on the lousy documentation of our past.
I didn't say that I know everything about history. What I say that we must use science and scientific methods to fix and improve our knowledge about the world.
Nobody knows everything about the past or the future. But they discover the unknown place by the mean of science.
Misunderstandings about the world has been fixed by science. It is scientific discoveries who change or refine the current theroies about the world.
Even the existence of afterworld, heaven, hell, God,... should be proven/disproven by scientific methods.
I disbelieve in supernatural beings because of the lack of scientific evidences. If there is sufficients evidences then I will believe in it. That is simple.
And if you believe in God or what ever, I will say "OK it is fine". I have no rights to change your belief and will never use force to impose my belief to you. It is my duty to respect the freedom of belief.
But of course there is some belief that humanity cannot accept, for example human sacrifice... then all the world put a ban on that belief because it is harmful. In this case freedom of belief cannot be applied.
sepheronx wrote:Saddam did use texts from the holy books to find parts of Babylon of Messopotania. Not everything is a lie as one would pertain it to be.
Ancient myths, mythology and religious scriptures can be used as a means to study about the ancient world. Because these material somehow express the mindset, thinking, lifestyle of the ancient people, and some of the content was loosely built on the real events.
But it is clear that we cannot 100% believe in the content of the religious scripture. For example, world being created in 7 days, sky is a brozne dome, the sky windows open to let rain pour down... all these thing is bullshit and cannot be believed. Some content in the Holy Bible can be used, though, because these content loosely describe the history of Israel and we can use them to study about ancient Israel.
Just like I never believe that my nation was formed by the Dragon God Lạc Long Quân and Fairy Goddess Âu Cơ. These two are just mythical figures.
sepheronx wrote:Edit: dont get me wrong. I think Dark matter exists, or may exist. But that doesnt discount the faith put into the theories. Once again, it is theorie vs theories. Was there a big bang? Was there a universe before? Was this always here? We do not know. It was a wheelchair bound guy who believes in extra terrestrial who thought of it. He may be right, or he may be a great bullshitter.
In the battle of theories vs theories, win or defeat was decided by the logics and evidences.
If we would like to know which theories are better, we just have to look at the evidences and the logic used in them.
I do not plan to say ABCXYZ theory is right or wrong, but that is how things work.
The born and died of theories, the change/unchange of theories... all these are decided by new evidences which have been founded by scientists. If the new evidences contradict with the curent theories, then the theories died out and people build new one to replace. If the new evidences support the current theories, then the theories go on and are further reinforced.
So if new evidences support the existence of God or afterlife, then the theories of God will be further reinforced and become more reliable. On the other hand, if God-believers want the world to acknowledge their belief, they just only have to find proofs and evidences about God.
That is how things work.