PapaDragon wrote: Khepesh wrote:
Way out of context of what I have ever said or meant... And the view of sit and wait is particular to anglophone forums, not Russian military and Donbass supporting networks where it gets shouted down. I speak for a majority viewpoint on such networks.
Wasn't talking about you.
Also, a lot of us here do not subscribe so openly to NAF offensive option because it would be distasteful of us since we live in neither Donbass nor Russia. Some folks here are literally on the other side of the planet.
Talk is cheap and we are simply trying to be respectful.
I would have nothing against successful NAF offensive but I would prefer to have some more guarantees that gains would be significant and that geopolitical and casualtie costs for Russia and Novo would be very low.
There is old Serbian wisdom that says: ''On someone else's ass even hundred sticks do not hurt''
My own posts are used to make my position seem that of reckless clown and are turned around and used as black propaganda. If certain posters agree with me and mimic what I have said with ludicrous additions, then my position, which is majority position on Russian Donbass supporting networks, is damaged becuase it appears to put me in same boat as various clowns who are here with a black purpose. The position of majoriy of Donbass is to attack, the position of many of those soldiers of VSN who appear on the networks is to attack. I simply express my own opinion and mirror this majority opinion. While "Putinbots" are said to have overwhelmed the entire internet to turn world opinion towards Russia, I see no significant evidence of this at the level of individuals, only various media and comment sites. But on Russian networks there are attempts at individual level that are clearly engineered to discredit and stop any talk of attacking, even to the level of calling people "traitors" if they suggest that one mortar round is fired back at ukrops, and any suggestion of a single VSN soldier stepping over the demarcation line is attacked as if they called for the death of all the first born. Such posters who make these attacks do not last long, sometimes only minutes before they are banned. No need to search all the networks for examples, simply look at comments on kassad. Raccoons were infested at one point but the admin is very energetic at cleaning. Those who show a seemingly pathalogical hatred towards any sort of attack and want all to be some "love in" with the "partners", are called Kremlyadi, and that is being polite. And to be clear, calling a poster a Kremlyadi is not an attack on Putin, as it seems many of these kremlyadi are the type who get their news from "Echo Moskvy" and "Dozhd". I avoided using this name here, but I see it manifested. I do not sniff round posters that express the position of doing nothing, that is their affair, yet some of my posts are commented on in a way that suggests that the object of the comment is not aimed to convert me, which is impossible, but to try and tell other posters what to think. I will also make it clear, if I did not already do so, that I make comments from a purely military perspective based on the military postion as it is now and as I see it developing. I do not give a fuck about economics, five year plans, how many rivets on some equipment, "partners" or any such boring garbage. I prefer to discuss how to advance to Kherson and cross the Dnepr, not the decreasing wages and calory intake of ukrops. Well, without insults of course, I hope I made my position clear, if it was not already obvious.