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    Is it safe to send an African American to Russia?

    Post  RTN on Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:14 pm

    Long story short, our firm needs to send three to four systems engineer to Russia to work with a local engineering company for 5 - 6 months.The thing is 1 of our engineer is Black. I haven't traveled to Russia since 2011 so not sure where things stand today with relation to race.

    If any of you guys live in Moscow, St Pete or Volvograd can you let me know if it would be safe to send an African American to Russia?

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    Re: Is it safe to send an African American to Russia?

    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:05 pm

    Do you mean safe for the American or for the Russians?

    I suggest you advise your worker to tell everyone he is Canadian Eh!

    He will be perfectly safe then. Smile


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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:08 pm

    GarryB wrote:Do you mean safe for the American or for the Russians?

    I suggest you advise your worker to tell everyone he is Canadian Eh!

    He will be perfectly safe then.  Smile

    Actually not a bad advise, not because he should fear violance that is rather less the case especially for a black American living in the non racist USA, but to avoid being looked upon and be embarrassed for what americans are today (regime).

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    Post  victor1985 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:12 pm

    tell him that if he listen hip hop or something like this he doesnt fit to russia. Smile
    being serious now i personally dont know how russia today understand freedom.
    being a maniac upon justice is not quite normal aka look at what stalin was. in democracy is better to be less maniac and paranoic.
    now about american hip hop or whatever ...i dont know... in my life i meet gangs and huligans. wasnt quite nice that meeting. here i agree russia. but on the other hand rhytms of hip hop are quite nice and pulse adrenaline into you. somethime this is nice. is normal to feel yourself proud and a superstar. here i think stalin was wrong. i dont imagine how to feel yourself else. being afraid of feel proud is not normal. sound quite like some religion shit in which the human beign should feel like crap and punish himself a lot. that can go into hate yourself. best of all is try to fit somehow the feelings into a functional system. i dont know how america right now is ...

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    Post  Regular on Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:38 pm

    For me all canadians are same shit like americans. I doubt it will help in Russia too. If those blacks will stay in safe parts of Moscow nothing will happen. Plenty of coppers on the streets too.
    Hell Moscow is safer than Detroit for a white guy aye.
    And Victor dude i am listening to russian hiphop from 90s so what are you talking about lol

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    Re: Is it safe to send an African American to Russia?

    Post  Book. on Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:48 pm

    Lot of South asia study the Russia. safe if stay the uni or open place

    But lot gangkid nazi if go far! dark skin is target very danger

    Stay in city but close to friend Wink

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    Post  RTN on Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:00 pm

    Regular wrote:If those blacks will stay in safe parts of Moscow nothing will happen.

    The office is in Lubyanka Square but am not sure if we will have to work in the outskirts. Three of us are Irish Americans just 1 African American in our group.


    Book. wrote:Lot of South asia study the Russia. safe if stay the uni or open place

    But lot gangkid nazi if go far! dark skin is target very danger

    Stay in city but close to friend Wink

    Hey thanks Book. Are "South Asians" targeted and if yes in which areas? What about St Petersburg, is it safe for African Americans?

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    Post  Book. on Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:44 am

    Moscow St Peter safe no worry
    stay in public place thumbsup

    South asia can target but stay group it ok
    I use study the Novgorod so foreign ok

    ME arab India Malay luv to study medicine science
    But most stay on campus


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    Post  RTN on Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:17 pm

    Book. wrote:Moscow St Peter safe no worry
    stay in public place  thumbsup

    South asia can target but stay group it ok
    I use study the Novgorod so foreign ok

    ME arab India Malay luv to study medicine science
    But most stay on campus


    Thanks Book. Funny how in a country like Russia there are Neo Nazis despite the fact that millions of Russians were killed by the Nazis.

    We have a few of these skinheads in the South & Mid West but mostly in the rural areas.

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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:39 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Book. wrote:Moscow St Peter safe no worry
    stay in public place  thumbsup

    South asia can target but stay group it ok
    I use study the Novgorod so foreign ok

    ME arab India Malay luv to study medicine science
    But most stay on campus


    Thanks Book. Funny how in a country like Russia there are Neo Nazis despite the fact that millions of Russians were killed by the Nazis.

    We have a few of these skinheads in the South & Mid West but mostly in the rural areas.

    I think that is funnier.


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    Post  Regular on Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:46 am

    RTN wrote:
    Book. wrote:Moscow St Peter safe no worry
    stay in public place  thumbsup

    South asia can target but stay group it ok
    I use study the Novgorod so foreign ok

    ME arab India Malay luv to study medicine science
    But most stay on campus


    Thanks Book. Funny how in a country like Russia there are Neo Nazis despite the fact that millions of Russians were killed by the Nazis.

    We have a few of these skinheads in the South & Mid West but mostly in the rural areas.
    Russian Nazism is different to the kraut nazis of WW2. Instead of expanding lebensraum all Russian nazis want is to be masters of their own country. They are symptom of some underlying problems, like lack of identity and purpose. Massive immigration to Russia doesn't help either. Nazism is way less popular now and people usually grow out of it.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:52 am

    I suspect most just like the uniforms and haircuts and leather shorts...


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    Post  RTN on Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:00 pm

    Regular wrote:all Russian nazis want is to be masters of their own country. They are symptom of some underlying problems, like lack of identity and purpose. Massive immigration to Russia doesn't help either. Nazism is way less popular now and people usually grow out of it.

    I personally feel that Russian cities are safer than US ones. But am not sure what a person of color feels about Russia coz they are the ones who are mostly attacked in Russia.

    From what I have seen most immigrants to Russia do menial jobs that locals are un willing to do just like in the US. However, unlike the US that has a large porous border with Mexico, Russia does not have a border with Tajikistan or Uzbekistan. Ergo, the Kremlin can easily stop these migrants from coming in.

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    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:21 pm

    RTN wrote:I personally feel that Russian cities are safer than US ones. But am not sure what a person of color feels about Russia coz they are the ones who are mostly attacked in Russia.

    From what I have seen most immigrants to Russia do menial jobs that locals are un willing to do just like in the US. However, unlike the US that has a large porous border with Mexico, Russia does not have a border with Tajikistan or Uzbekistan. Ergo, the Kremlin can easily stop these migrants from coming in.

    Xenophobe a**holes and SOB shit exist in everywhere, in all countries.

    Yes, there are Vietnamese who are killed in Russia and U.S. but that does not prevent my fellow citizens to come to these countries to work and live. And it seems like us Vietnameses are living well and fine.

    So basically tell your friend to behave well, obey the rules and laws, and make friends with surrounding people. Walk in group of many members if needed.

    Even in Irak, Afghanistan, Syria and war-torn countries people manage to live on, so why not in Russia ?

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    Post  victor1985 on Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:57 pm

    [quote="Regular"]For me all canadians are same shit like americans. I doubt it will help in Russia too. If those blacks will stay in safe parts of Moscow nothing will happen. Plenty of coppers on the streets too.
    Hell Moscow is safer than Detroit for a white guy aye.
    And Victor dude i am listening to russian hiphop from 90s so what are you talking about lol[/quote]



    well yes but in generally in russia is a old look of things. new fashion like hip hop is not liked by many people. especially conservative people who thinks in the old way of communism aka "order and discipline" see hip hop like a anarchy movement or something. but is no problem. me either i dont like all parts of hip hop

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    Post  jhelb on Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:38 pm

    RTN wrote:Long story short, our firm needs to send three to four systems engineer to Russia to work with a local engineering company for 5 - 6 months.The thing is 1 of our engineer is Black. I haven't traveled to Russia since 2011 so not sure where things stand today with relation to race.

    If any of you guys live in Moscow, St Pete or Volvograd can you let me know if it would be safe to send an African American to Russia?

    And why would you think that Blacks are more safe in the US than in Russia?

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:36 pm


    Honestly tired of reading this tread's title so:

    There is already certain number of black people of all shades living in Russia full time so I think your buddy will survive little business trip just fine...

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    Post  victor1985 on Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:38 pm

    actually in usa firearms are everywhere and is likely to be lots of violence than russia. maibe he is indoctrinated by the west. probably is about the old story of russians being a violent people. he maibe is a shy guy and all stories about russia scared him. same things "russians are communist , violent, and abusive", "russia has gulags", "putin is a dictator who rule over the opposition and the press and the people".

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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:58 pm

    Did not post someone month's ago the video with the black guy saying "Я русский!" Laughing

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    Post  VladimirSahin on Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:36 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Did not post someone month's ago the video with the black guy saying "Я русский!" Laughing

    LOL hahaha that one got me +1

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    Post  Regular on Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:08 pm

    Show Your niggers this Very Happy

    Nigger slaps musor in the face

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    Post  Regular on Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:11 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Did not post someone month's ago the video with the black guy saying "Я русский!" Laughing

    Haha there are plenty of pictures of niggers with T-Shirts like that.
    By the way Nigger for me is not offensive word. We eastern Europeans didn't enslave them, let western europeans be PC about it. I worked with quite a few negritos and we always made fun out of it. That stigma is for former slave owners.

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    Post  RTN on Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:56 pm

    Regular wrote:Haha there are plenty of pictures of niggers with T-Shirts like that.

    I get it, just like there are plenty of blacks with T Shirts that read "I love USA". But these are exceptions not the rule.

    In my experience dark skin people are more susceptible to racist attacks in Russia and other parts of eastern europe. In fact the situation in places like Slovenia, Poland and Hungary is even worse.

    Just like my forefathers who fled Ireland because they were more likely to be killed simply for being Catholic.

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    Post  Bolt on Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:50 pm

    By the way, just in case - a word негр/negr (negroe) doesn't have a bad meaning in Russian as in English.
    If you're working in the office, people (I think?) should know that it's not wise to use this word when talking about a black person, but a usual guy on the street could call him that way - without the intention to insult him. There are other alternative words that people use as cursing.

    I'm telling you this just in case - it's a cultural difference, that could take time to getting used to, if you're from Western Europe/US.

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    Post  Regular on Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:19 pm

    Bolt wrote:By the way, just in case - a word негр/negr (negroe) doesn't have a bad meaning in Russian as in English.
    If you're working in the office, people (I think?) should know that it's not wise to use this word when talking about a black person, but a usual guy on the street could call him that way - without the intention to insult him. There are other alternative words that people use as cursing.

    I'm telling you this just in case - it's a cultural difference, that could take time to getting used to, if you're from Western Europe/US.
    That's pretty much what I said in last post. But thanks for putting it in proper English Smile

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