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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

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    Rodinazombie
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Rodinazombie on Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:29 pm

    This business of osce suddenly telling the truth is very interesting.

    Any idea what it means?

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:34 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:This business of osce suddenly telling the truth is very interesting.

    Any idea what it means?
    Don't know but today's report is a big one and very interesting. For those who say that NAF is not firing back, how about this snippet

    On 16 August in government-controlled Verkhnotoretske (22km north-north-east of Donetsk), the SMM followed up on information received from a Ukrainian Armed Forces officer of heavy shelling at their base 1km south-west of the village on 8 August. The SMM saw at least four 2m deep craters in the asphalt assessed to have been caused by special ammunition capable of penetrating bunkers.


    and this

    On the same day in government-controlled Andriivka (41km north-north-east of Mariupol), the SMM conducted crater analysis of eleven fresh craters caused by shelling on the previous day, according to information received from a resident. The SMM assessed that the impacts have been caused by 152mm artillery incoming from a north-easterly direction. Three residential houses were severely damaged and others slightly. The SMM was told by the residents that five civilians had been injured due to the shelling.


    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/177826

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Erk on Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:46 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''Ukraine Soldiers Killing Themselves at an Alarming Rate''

    http://russia-insider.com/en/over-100-suicides-among-ukrainian-soldiers-reported-beginning-fighting-donbas/ri9233

    Probably more like 100 soldiers murdered for refusing to fight, and reported as suicides.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:57 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:This business of osce suddenly telling the truth is very interesting.

    Any idea what it means?

    Probably just covering their asses....or maybe the Kiev's sugardaddy is sending his ho a message to tone it downa bit.

    But sugardaddy doesn't have issues with approaching winter, unlike ho... quite a conundrum for ukrops is it?

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Dforce on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:23 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:This business of osce suddenly telling the truth is very interesting.

    Totally agree:

    On 15 August the SMM unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) observed in DPR-controlled areas: one ‘R-330ZH Zhitel’ jamming communication station [...]
    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/177826

    Guess the seps built it out of Lego.. russia

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Chersonesus on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:23 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Chersonesus wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Chersonesus wrote:Sparta battalion has released a video of its museum showing the smaller trophies from the battles. They appear to have captured a minigun (0:40 into video). Before and after photos of a group of cyborgs.

    youtube.com/watch?v=l-i5F_n84jc

    Looks like a Shipunov 7.62mm. From Crocodile gunpod?

    That looks about right. I'm sure it would appeal to the Ukrop's US-style macho instinct.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  max steel on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:29 pm

    Propaganda Manufacturing House discrediting others by calling them trolls. Nice way to restablish your discredited propaganda :


    Russia’s Troll Army Is Making Life Harder for US Spies

    http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/08/russias-troll-army-making-life-harder-us-spies/119179/?oref=DefenseOneFB

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Chersonesus on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:31 pm

    Dforce wrote:
    Rodinazombie wrote:This business of osce suddenly telling the truth is very interesting.

    Totally agree:

    On 15 August the SMM unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) observed in DPR-controlled areas: one ‘R-330ZH Zhitel’ jamming communication station [...]
    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/177826

    Guess the seps built it out of Lego.. russia

    Good stuff, Lego. You can build all sorts using it and from a distance it is indistinguishable from the real mccoy.

    I suspect the Ukrops will go the Ikea route for their stuff.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Rodinazombie on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:33 pm

    Regarding the OSCE





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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Chersonesus on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:34 pm

    max steel wrote:Propaganda Manufacturing House discrediting others by calling them trolls. Nice way to restablish your discredited propaganda :


    Russia’s Troll Army Is Making Life Harder for US Spies

    http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/08/russias-troll-army-making-life-harder-us-spies/119179/?oref=DefenseOneFB

    The US is developing a fine line in chutzpah. The have issued a demand that China withdraw its secret agents from America. Sure - but only after the US pulls its regime change scamsters from China.

    https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201508170535-97ly.htm

    [Woohoo - I can enter proper links at last!]

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Chersonesus on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:36 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:Regarding the OSCE





    The OSCE guy needs a 'kick me' sign pinned to the back of his body armour.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  franco on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:37 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Kotemore, what exactly is the frontline strength of both sides? How many men, tanks, art pieces? I know it's over 50k at each side but I don't have precise numbers.

    There are no precise but try here;
    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3872-united-armed-forces-of-novorossiya-naf

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  kvs on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:46 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    Cowboy's daughter wrote:Ukraine fails to secure debt write-off at US talks

    http://www.rt.com/news/312509-ukraine-debt-talks-california/

    The country’s GDP is expected to shrink 9 percent this year, with annual inflation expected to jump to 46 percent, the IMF has warned. The debt will hit 95 percent of GDP this year, according to the National Bank of Ukraine.

    I can't believe RT is spouting the 9% figure when Ukraine's GDP fell almost 18% year on year in the 1st quarter.
    To have a net fall of 9% in 2015 requires Ukraine's GDP to grow by 9% in the remaining 3 quarters.   That ain't
    gonna happen since the 2nd quarter will still be down compared to 2014:



    Note the lack of any turn-around trend in Ukraine's GDP drop.

    You're calculating it wrong.

    Don't take the quarterly figure as 'GDP has fallen by 18%', but rather 'GDP will fall by 18% this year if we have 3 more quarters like this one'.

    In other words, the GDP decline for Q1 was 18/4 = 4.5%
    Or rather 17.6/4 = 4.4% to be exact

    The GDP decline for Q2 BTW has already been published; 14.7%

    Shame its decline stopped accelerating  cheers

    But no matter. As long as the decline in the next 2 quarters averages out at at least 13.85%; we'd still end up with the Ukraine loosing 15% of its economy this year. Suits me.

    I don't understand your confusion. Year on year means what it says. The Ukrainian GDP in the 1st quarter of 2015
    was 17.6% smaller than in the 1st quarter of 2014. There is no factor 1/4 in this figure and my statement was
    correct. Look it up.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  par far on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:47 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:Regarding the OSCE






    Grab the OSCE fucker and take him to the area where the fascists are shelling.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

    Post  Flagship Victory on Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:50 pm

    Chersonesus wrote:Thanks. I have been a member for more than 7 days (which someone else mentioned as a critical period). I have my browser set to clear cookies on exit. Will that have any effect on this?

    Need more posts I think.

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    The Situation in the Ukraine.

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    Flagship Victory wrote:
    Chersonesus wrote:Thanks. I have been a member for more than 7 days (which someone else mentioned as a critical period). I have my browser set to clear cookies on exit. Will that have any effect on this?

    Need more posts I think.

    Thanks. The issue seems to be resolved. I hope it survives my logout later this evening.

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