The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

Ivan the Colorado wrote: Poroshenko's handlers don't want to give Russia an irrefutable reason to come in and ruin all their hard work. But with that said, it isn't the first time Kiev has tried to get Russia actively involved in the conflict. The Ukrops looked poised to invade Krim quite a few times already. With all the political upheaval going on Kiev who knows who is holding the chains anymore, or if Pork and co. decided to stop listening to their handlers.

BKP wrote:http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/12/ukrainians-are-voting-with-their-feet-against-war-and-economic-disaster/

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This is what I found most interesting, however:

According to several reports received by New Cold War.org, many Ukrainian men, joined by their spouses in some cases, have taken refuge in the two regions which the Kyiv regime’s ‘ATO’ has failed to conquer—Crimea and Donbas. This is ironic because many of these people are strident, pro-Maidan nationalists who supported the February 2014 coup.(...)

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

I had trouble getting it to post. It was there but wouldn't show up. It finally did.

It's coming off of this twitter, You can see it here. It's by pete john 53 min ago, and starts out "osce to leave all out war started by ukies"

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote: Poroshenko's handlers don't want to give Russia an irrefutable reason to come in and ruin all their hard work. But with that said, it isn't the first time Kiev has tried to get Russia actively involved in the conflict. The Ukrops looked poised to invade Krim quite a few times already. With all the political upheaval going on Kiev who knows who is holding the chains anymore, or if Pork and co. decided to stop listening to their handlers.

There will be no attack on Krimu or this berg, not even the orcs are that stupud. Pretty busy this morning, though.

No real time commo with contact in Gorlovka since last evening.

I have never seen anyone in the uke 'national dress' in this berg, not now, not before this mess started. Here we don't damage or destroy cars with Uke stickers on them and we don't toss stones at those houses that still fly the orc flag either. It is their right just as it is their right to argue their cause as much as they want. On the other hand, to actively practice or encourage sedition and treason is a horse of an entirely different color.

We do have a smatter of cars from other areas besides Novorossiya, you can tell where they are from by the car tag prefix, but no more than usual. In descending order of locations by observed numbers, Donetsk Oblast (by far the highest number of machines, over 75% of Uke cars here) Kiev, Lugansk Oblast, Odessa area. All other areas are so rare one has to look them up. Trucks we don't count, most trucks from Ukeland here are in hiding so they are not requisitioned 'for the war', read taken and promptly sold, and there is a substantial herd of them floating around.

There is a growing annoyance with the numbers of 'guests' we have here who are in semipermanent residence. Many will very honestly tell you they are sitting the war out and intend to return home when the war is successfully concluded. The annoyance factor grows a bit every time we bury one of our boys, the growing consensus of opinion is why the heck are so many of the local men up there fighting while so many military age men from up there are sitting comfortably down here.  

KoTeMoRe wrote:

From Dat Other Place.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
I honestly have my doubts on how smart the Hohols are in regards to starting a fight with Russia. Back two months ago, there was all the talk about Ukraine taking Transnistria. They even got a S-300 system in Odessa. Everybody thought that a war between Russia and Ukraine was imminent but all of a sudden the NAF launched a short but brutal counterattack on the Ukrops.

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
I honestly have my doubts on how smart the Hohols are in regards to starting a fight with Russia. Back two months ago, there was all the talk about Ukraine taking Transnistria. They even got a S-300 system in Odessa. Everybody thought that a war between Russia and Ukraine was imminent but all of a sudden the NAF launched a short but brutal counterattack on the Ukrops.

Giving the Hohols anything beyond a ball of cotton is like giving a monkey a hand grenade and then sitting him down with you and the family at the dinner table.

The idiots up Kiev way seem to have an endless array of hair brained schemes that never cease to amaze us so I wouldn't put anything past them or their masters, said masters are the ones in absolute and complete control. Porky and minions don't take a dump without asking permission.

Still no real time commo with up north plus unless reports and informations have come on line in the last hour seems there's a pretty good news block up there.

Ruthenius wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

From Dat Other Place.

Relax, nothing too bad happened, just should've not called some of those local crack lovers "crack lovers" - despite that they are definitely crack lovers who prefer to rant and cry. But that ban is not forever, just some moments.

Will be interesting to see how the remained are going to develop and contribute to that tread. Hope they won't finaly finish it, I'll cry if that happens.

Khepesh wrote:It's quiet on the ground, but oddly quiet in the networks and some places were a lot of chatter is to be expected are silent, and other places have posts removed. It seems that what happened was a huge provocation. All the attacks around the front except Gorlovka were feints to suggest an offensive, but Gorlovka was the target, tho not attacked in full force, only enough to seem as if it was. Popcorn back in the cuboard....

auslander wrote:

Hmmm. Makes sense that it was a test to see how, where and how fast NAF among others would react. I think the orcs and their masters have that answer.

Khepesh wrote:

auslander wrote:

Hmmm. Makes sense that it was a test to see how, where and how fast NAF among others would react. I think the orcs and their masters have that answer.

I think today there will be an attempt to downplay everything. Basurin will forget that he told blatant lies about the alert status, ukrops will forget everything, except that they saw what happened with VSN tank forces near Telmanovo last night and will certainly have known about the movements in Donetsk, and will have seen the non reaction from Kremlin. I said in a post last night that in part it all looked like the attack on Elenovka in January, with far more going on elsewhere of course. Yet while ukrops were defeated, they will have seen from where and how fast the reserve moved. Curious this lack of reporting, even in Russian media to a large extent, curious the removal of posts, comments, blogs and removal of interviews by Strelkov.

Khepesh wrote:

auslander wrote:

Hmmm. Makes sense that it was a test to see how, where and how fast NAF among others would react. I think the orcs and their masters have that answer.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Chersonesus wrote:

ATO wounded are being taken as far as Odessa for treatment. I wonder how much spare capacity the Ukrop medical system has.

I was reading and now can't find the link, that the US has supplied at least one major field hospital, complete with loads of medicines and other stuff with replacement supplies for the next 18 months. This is one area in which a lot of NATO expertise has been deployed. Treatment of the injured should be totally different to last time.

Given the UAF track record' those 18 months sound quite optimistic to me...

My worries are that UAF won't fare any better than last time, if the Crimean Rumour is to be believed. This time It will be Tide Wind Time, aka Tsunami.

Poroshenko's handlers don't want to give Russia an irrefutable reason to come in and ruin all their hard work. But with that said, it isn't the first time Kiev has tried to get Russia actively involved in the conflict. The Ukrops looked poised to invade Krim quite a few times already. With all the political upheaval going on Kiev who knows who is holding the chains anymore, or if Pork and co. decided to stop listening to their handlers.

gregoire wrote:
I wouldn't want the enemy to know or guess or find out even the slightest of information on my plans. The real question is, who removed the posts and whose side are they on.
I dare say that although we may just have seen the tip of the iceberg, things may have become Really Dangerously tense. My guess is; an attack by the ukrop and a bizar MSM media attack by there masters unlike anything we've seen. And this will of course cover up something else entirely. The west is going for the final push.

http://www.euronews.com/2015/08/12/caught-red-handed-the-russian-major-fighting-in-ukraine/ wrote:

auslander wrote:
Read it this morning just for grins and giggles. That place don't never change, it's the same old small gang posting the same old garbage day in and day out, although I must admit I was surprised to see the polish champion and hero of the thread get banned.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Gentlemen prepare to be amazed...



Euronews going Full Retard.

I regular service man...Military Service...as a Major...MAJOR. Other than that, we don't have age of the said "regular serviceman".

By Robert Hackwill | With EURONEWS KYIV OFFICE, EUROMAIDAN NEWS IN ENGLISH

Pravda UA via Google Translate wrote:
Kyiv police chief - the legalization of prostitution
Thursday, August 13, 2015, 12:16

Chief of the Interior Ministry in Kiev Alexander Tereshchuk favor of the legalization of prostitution in Ukraine.

He said "Ukrainian News".

"I support (legalization)," - he said.

According to him, there is prostitution in Ukraine and covered law enforcement, it should be addressed.

"Perhaps it is better to legalize" - said Tereshchuk.

He added that he instructed subordinates to clean up the mess prostitution in Kiev.

As reported, the human rights organization Amnesty International adopted a resolution providing for the deployment campaign for the decriminalization of prostitution worldwide. Continue reading.

Flagship Victory wrote:2 Maidan soldiers KIA and 10 Maidan soldiers WIA yesterday.

BTW has anyone seen Karl Haushofer lately? Is he banned?