GarryB wrote:Then how did Mig even get to enter the competition?
Because they asked an RFP to be issued to them , that's how .
GarryB wrote:Or, more importantly, why didn't they just call it a Mig-29F or something.
Because MIG calls it so , not the buyer
GarryB wrote:So why did they ask for the Mig-35 to come to AeroIndia?
Which means any aircraft that comes to AeroIndia will have to be purchased by the IAF ? FYI participation in AeroIndia is voluntary .
GarryB wrote:By buying incredibly expensive French aircraft the requirement to not have an all Russian fleet is achieved.
Second guessing at it's best .
GarryB wrote:The problem is that Mig spent lots of money on this competition, money it wont get back.
SO why did they enter this competition knowing fully well they can't afford it ?
GarryB wrote:The most ridiculous thing is that in 10-15 years if they still have Mig-29s in service they will likely have components that Mig will likely develop for the Russian AF if they choose the Mig-35 configuration.
The only thing ridiculous is this assessment that MIG 35 components will fit into all the MIg 29s of the IAF which are already 2 decades old.
GarryB wrote:Yet they still wanted to flight test it...
Of course , why not that's why it entered the competition .
GarryB wrote:and the OVT could fly rings around any other aircraft entered in the competition...
Not sure if it did .
GarryB wrote:It is one thing to buy a ticket to a lottery, it is another thing to find you are buying a ticket from last weeks draw and the numbers were not drawn, yet it costs the same as the tickets that will be drawn this week.
" A fool and his money are soon parted " . If someone decided to buy last week's lottery ticket to enter this weeks lottery it can safely be concluded that this person has lost his mental composure.
GarryB wrote:Who is talking about reputation? I am talking about economics.
EADS, Lockheed , SAAB , Boeing have not filed for bankruptcy yet .
GarryB wrote:Mig does not have bottomless pockets supported by local governments and agencies like the NSA and CIA.
Correct . That's why it no longer exists as it is now a part of UAC.
GarryB wrote:Can you post these warnings to the Russians that their products were not eligible and should not be entered?
Yes. Also , I never said the MIG was not eligible , though during the course of the competition the other aircrafts fared better.
GarryB wrote:Sounds rather unlikely to me as the entire process was supposed to be geared towards getting France to lower its price for Rafales,
Absolute rubbish . There were 650 parameters that were laid out . The winner had to satisfy 90% of these criterias , which only the Typhoon and the Rafale did ..Period.
GarryB wrote:and competing with the Eurofighter and the Gripen and US fighters is hardly going to push the French as they know the Gripen uses US weapons and a US engine and would not be much use without those, a US aircraft was equally unlikely because of the US's relationship with Pakistan, which leaves the Eurofighter, which is an incomplete aircraft.
SAAB had promised full ToT if selected , US is not trusted by many and the Eurofighter is not incomplete albeit a "False Prophet".
GarryB wrote:India needed the Mig to keep the French on their toes.
I am assuming you had insider information on this .
GarryB wrote:Most of the claims I have read for the Mig not meeting the criteria, including as you suggest comments before the program even got underway, should have been very straight forward and Mig should have been told not to enter, and indeed not been accepted into the competition. That doesn't seem to have happened.
You are not listening . MIG was told this at the very onset not to compete .