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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:48 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Troop compartment on Hinds is significantly less armoured than cockpit, this is probably one of things they want to rectify

    Plus there is speed, range, interior space and payload that could always be increased, my bet is that range will be priority

    same as agility, ballistic protection and firepower lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:52 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Troop compartment on Hinds is significantly less armoured than cockpit, this is probably one of things they want to rectify

    Plus there is speed, range, interior space and payload that could always be increased, my bet is that range will be priority

    Honestly the "troop compartment" on Hinds are said to be cramped and uncomfortable, and are better suited to store gear than to house people. Hopefully we can get a Hind upgrade that converts  the space into a ammo handling/feed storage, maybe with a under-cockpit AGS-30 attached with a direct feed to ammo handling compartment... Twisted Evil

    I agree but this is not upgrade really
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    development of a substantially new helicopter, an airborne combat vehicle," the agency’s source said.
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    Post  Hole on Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:16 am

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:29 am

    so they want a transport helicopter similar to Blackhawk?

    No. They specifically said can operate in highlands... the Blackhawk is fing useless and cannot operate in most places in Afghanistan, which is why the US had to supply their Afghan puppets with Mi-8s instead of using Blackhawks.

    The Mi-24/-35 can already transport 8 people and fly in various conditions.

    Indeed, so what they are after is a higher speed and better protected Hind.

    2) No tilt -rotor for VDV then Suspect Suspect Suspect

    High speed helicopter is a more conservative approach, and can be cashed in more easily... high speed helicopter technology can be directly applied to existing helos to improve performance much more easily than brand new potentially risky tiltrotor technology... a quad rotor might be balanced but the twin rotor system involves balancing on a bicycle at some stage every landing and every takeoff...

    VDV wants IVF

    ??

    New armour technology using ceramics and light weight armours from light vehicle designs should allow improvements in protection for the troops... coaxial rotor design and high speed helo design should free up some weight in terms of tail rotor design and reduced wing size to allow RWS turrets... perhaps rear and side entry doors for rapid getting on and off from three directions with gun positions in the front and rear corners providing firepower protection...
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:15 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    2) No tilt -rotor for VDV then Suspect Suspect Suspect

    High speed helicopter is a more conservative approach, and can be cashed in more easily... high speed helicopter technology can be directly applied to existing helos to improve performance much more easily than brand new potentially risky tiltrotor technology... a quad rotor might be balanced but the twin rotor system involves balancing on a bicycle at some stage every landing and every takeoff...

    sounds plausible or because of nature of quick troops drop? there might be simply no time to land with tilt rotor and take off. "Forest skimming" helos are popping up lowering to 1-2 over ground level drop troops and take of fighting as support gunships?



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    VDV wants IVF
    ??

    New armour technology using ceramics and light weight armours from light vehicle designs should allow improvements in protection for the troops... coaxial rotor design and high speed helo design should free up some weight in terms of tail rotor design and reduced wing size to allow RWS turrets... perhaps rear and side entry doors for rapid getting on and off from three directions with gun positions in the front and rear corners providing  firepower protection...

    true, just my point was VDV doesn't look for APC to bring troops to battlefield. VDV looks for IVF to fight with troops.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:18 am

    You mean IFV don't you?

    Or considering the nature of this site you mean BMP.

    Isn't IVF some sort of treatment involving saline drips and needles in the arm?
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    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:14 pm

    Russian paratroopers’ armored unit involved in first Crimean drills

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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:27 pm

    A tank battalion is formed in the 56th Airborne Assault Brigade of the Airborne Forces

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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:42 pm

    A few days ago, the VDV and VTA carried out a large scale parachute drop over Crimea, with 2500 paratroopers in 40 Il-76's taking part

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:58 am

    Exercise at Polivno Training ground...they seem to be using a lot more pick up trucks than before
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:38 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Exercise at Polivno Training ground...they seem to be using a lot more pick up trucks than before
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    Syrian experience, and the advocacy by MOD for light fast-attack tactics.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:08 am

    Deep behind enemy lines speed and fire power is more important than protection...

    Very simply a US air drop to capture an airfield would need to be dropped almost on top of the airfield so any air defences of the airfield will take down a few aircraft if not taken out first.

    VDV can drop 100km away from the target... form up in vehicles and head at high speed towards whatever target they have in mind... with surprise.

    If they attack an airfield they will have a fire power advantage because few airfields have heavy ground forces to protect them... once the airfield is captured heavier armour and ground forces can be flown in and used to stop the counter attack made up of ad hoc forces from the region.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:27 am

    I'm not against their use....actually it's something they could've done much earlier with or without Syria
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:09 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:I'm not against their use....actually it's something they could've done much earlier with or without Syria

    From my understanding they've had these tactics since at least the Afghan war, but it's just now becoming more prevalent. Ideally speaking I would modify the technicals to have more protection and fire power. Because we are talking light fast attack, the technicals can't be too well armored (weight constraints), however the main cabin could have significant armor but the trailer could be unarmored. The main cabin could also have ERA, and it was demonstrated on Military Acceptance (the Kurganets-25 episode) that the mid-90's upgrade to BMP-3's had ERA capable of protecting unarmored pick up trucks. The main trailer could have a significant armament slaved to a RWS. The RWS could have a electro-optical sighting symstem, connected to a target radar suite to have interchangeable ATGM's between Kornet and Chrysanthemum as well as a double stack of 32 57mm rocket pods on one side of the RWS, and 8 Verba's and a GSH-23L autocannon on the other side of the RWS.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:04 am

    But that is the problem... you add more armour and tons of weapons and all of a sudden it is a slow much easier target more likely to get bogged down or stuck in some environments... or even to roll over...

    The crews will be wearing body armour... modest vehicle armour with a big powerful engine and a few support weapons on board is all they need... if they need fire support then they will have gunships that would be much better able to deliver such fire power to enemy positions than systems mounted on a light high speed vehicle.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:37 am

    It seems these were mortar crews travelling in Lada Niva utes during the exercise of the VDV Artillery units

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3720161.html
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:15 am

    Cyberspec wrote:It seems these were mortar crews travelling in Lada Niva utes during the exercise of the VDV Artillery units

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3720161.html

    More than 300 mortar/arty paratroopers from the 31st Independent Air Assault Brigade conducted a training exercise at the Polivno Training Area with Niva/Lada 4x4 with Podnos 82mm mortars and UAZ pickups with Sani 120mm mortars transported by Mi-26 helos.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1157373945504522240

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    The 31st (Air Assault Brigade) is being used by the VDV to experiment with an air assault element with organic helo aviation, which was tested at Vostok 2018.
    An organic VDV helo brigade will be created in the future, which will improve the VDV's expeditionary capabilities.


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    Post  George1 on Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:01 am

    Russian paratroopers’ new armored vehicle to enter service in 2020


    A source in the defense industry told TASS that the paratroopers’ Taifun vehicle was set for new trials at special military ranges, which would be over in 2019

    MOSCOW, August 2. /TASS/. The latest Taifun K4386 armored vehicle developed for Russia’s Airborne Force will start arriving for the troops in 2020, the press office of Remdizel (the vehicle’s developer) told TASS on Friday.

    "The state trials are coming to their concluding stage. We expect the deliveries of Taifun K4386 vehicles to begin in 2020 but only the Defense Ministry can give a more exact date," the Remdizel press office said.

    The new combat vehicle is successfully completing the program of its tests, the company said.
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    "All the tests, both production and state trials, have been 100% implemented as maximum loads have to be tested in accordance with the chief designer’s decision to find serious faults, if any, and have the time to eliminate them before the vehicle’s acceptance," the company’s press office said.

    No serious faults have been exposed during the tests, Remdizel stressed.

    "Some minor improvements but this is a natural process," the company said.

    "We can’t say that the vehicle has undergone any major changes. No, this has not happened," the company said. A source in the defense industry told TASS that the paratroopers’ Taifun vehicle was set for new trials at special military ranges, which would be over in 2019. "After that, the vehicle can be delivered to the troops."

    The Taifun-VDV K4386 vehicle features a 4x4 wheeled formula, combined ceramic armor protection and the reduced curb weight. The vehicle can be armed with the Kord large-caliber machine-gun or other gun mounts. The combat vehicle is designated for Airborne Force personnel and can be air-dropped by parachutes from military transport aircraft of Russia’s Aerospace Force.

    https://tass.com/defense/1071676
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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:25 am

    Cyberspec wrote:A few days ago, the VDV and VTA carried out a large scale parachute drop over Crimea, with 2500 paratroopers in 40 Il-76's taking part

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:01 pm

    Designed for the "Warrior" of the parachute will allow the soldier to shoot in the air

    Expert: "patisseria" the shape of the parachute D-10 will not allow the collision of Marines
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    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:26 pm

    Airborne Forces Day at the 11th Separate Guards Air Assault Brigade in Ulan-Ude

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    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:20 pm

    Russian paratroopers to get armored vehicle with unmanned combat module


    TASS sources earlier reported about the plans to boost the might of Russia’s Airborne Force by mounting Kornet anti-tank missile systems on BMD-4M vehicles

    MOSCOW, August 8. /TASS/. Defense contractors are working on an armored vehicle for the Airborne Force that will be mounted on the chassis of the Sprut-SD self-propelled anti-tank gun and equipped with the Epokha unmanned combat module, a source in the defense industry told TASS on Thursday.

    The module was initially designed for advanced infantry fighting vehicles mounted on the latest Bumerang, Kurganets-25 and Armata combat platforms. The module’s armament includes the 30mm 2A42 gun, the 7.62mm machine-gun and the Kornet anti-tank missile system.

    "We tried to mount the combat module from the Kurganets platform on the chassis of the BMD-4M airborne infantry fighting vehicle but it turned out that although this module is lighter than the standard BMD-4M module, it is larger by its dimensions and spans over the crew hatches. That is why, an option has been worked out to place the new module on the Sprut chassis. This option poses no problems and this can be done on the Sprut chassis very quickly," the source said.

    https://tass.com/defense/1072501
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:52 am

    Well that would be interesting... if they are going to be putting the 30mm cannon armed turret we have seen on the other land vehicle family vehicles mounted on the Sprut, then perhaps they might also fit the 57mm gun armed turret on the Sprut too later on as a vehicle capable of more powerful fire support... engaging targets at greater ranges and penetrating more armour with kinetic gun rounds than the 30mm cannon can (though less than the original 125mm gun armed Sprut can).

    So they are also introducing the Taifun vehicle... I wonder if ground based recon forces will also be deployed with the Taifun family of light vehicles?
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    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:09 am

    Over 200 combat vehicles to be airdropped as part of Tsentr-2019 exercise

    For that, over 80 Il-76 military transport planes will be used

    https://tass.com/defense/1078643

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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:41 am

    George1 wrote:Over 200 combat vehicles to be airdropped as part of Tsentr-2019 exercise

    For that, over 80 Il-76 military transport planes will be used

    https://tass.com/defense/1078643


    80 x Il-76's...not something you see every day Smile

    There's a video of the preparations in the link
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    AMCXXL wrote:The VDV lost all its squadrons in 2010 and will not have aviation again

    Experiment with 'Airmobile' VDV Brigade (with organic helicopter detachment) at the Centre 2019 exercise. It was used on a smaller scale during the Vostok 2018 exercise...if succesful, they will form standing 'Airmobile brigades.

    The plan is to turn the VDV into a fully fledged 'Rapid Reaction' Force

    The main difference between airmobile and standard unit  — own helicopter units. They are subordinate to the unit's command, that allows to significantly reduce the time for the decision on sending forces to a particular area.

    The composition of the air group consists of two squadrons of transport helicopters Mi-8, two — the world's largest transport helicopter Mi-26 (the pilots called them "cows"), and the unit of attack helicopters.

    ...

    On the heavy transport Mi-26 helicopters, the Marines will ship in the specified area vehicles-pickups, buggies, ATVs and antitank weapons. And on external loads (the cables under the helicopter) will be deployed and artillery —the 122-mm howitzer D-30.

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