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    Post  Austin on Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:54 pm

    JANES:Russia 'to double' size of airborne forces
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    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:32 am

    Russian airborne troops complete formation of peacekeeping force

    SPASSK RANGE (Kazakhstan), August 22. /ITAR-TASS/. Russian airborne troops have completed the formation of a 5,000-strong peacekeeping force, Deputy Airborne Troops Commander in charge of peacekeeping operations and Collective Rapid Reaction Force of the Collective Security Treaty Organization Maj-Gen Alexander Vyaznikov told ITAR-TASS on Friday.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:31 pm

    Airborne Troops to Conduct Combat Training at Kuril Islands: Russian Defense Ministry

    MOSCOW, September 12 (RIA Novosti) - A number of airborne units from Russia's Eastern Military District will carry out combat readiness drills on the Kuril Islands, Russia's Defense Ministry informed on Friday.

    "The command of the Russian Airborne Troops plans to transfer a number of airborne units to training areas near the city of Anadyr [Chukotka region], to the island of Sakhalin and to the Kuril Islands during the next few days," the ministry wrote in a statement.

    Paratroopers from Ulan-Ude and Ussuriysk will for the first time travel to training areas located over 4,000 kilometers (2,500 miles) from their place of deployment, the ministry informed.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:22 am

    Airborne mastered dropping from a height of eight kilometers

    Airborne troops of the Armed Forces of Russia until the end of 2014 will receive about 100 experts who have mastered the high-altitude special training, reports "Interfax" referring to the press service of the Airborne.

    full report: http://lenta.ru/news/2014/11/11/eight/
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    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:45 am

    i translate in google what this page says: http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201501011200-q2d7.htm


    A team of special forces and three separate reconnaissance battalion recruited to the Airborne Forces in 2014, told reporters on January 1st Airborne spokesman Lt. Col. Eugene bags.

    "As part of Airborne Brigade set up a special purpose in the Moscow region and formed three separate reconnaissance battalion in Pskov, Tula and Novorossiisk connections", - said the bag.

    Earlier it was reported that in the Airborne troops completed the formation of peacekeeping forces, whose number has exceeded 5,000 people.
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    Post  Kyo on Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:28 pm

    VDV to get new Kamaz air-dropped modular vehicle.


    http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/770239
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:33 pm

    Kyo wrote:VDV to get new Kamaz air-dropped modular vehicle.


    http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/770239

    ...So now it's confirmed that the Kamaz Typhoon will be air-droppable (or at least a specific version of it), and their also working on developing an air-droppable Kamaz Typhoon with a Pantsir-S1 module, to greatly enhance the capabilities of the VDV.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:20 am

    The Typhoon is supposed to be in the 10-15 ton class, so it should be possible to make it air droppable.

    I would suspect rather than Pantsir-S they might develop something with a quad or octuple launcher for Verba or Sosna-R for the VDV just to keep weight down.


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    Post  medo on Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:13 pm

    Typhoon truck alone could air droppable, but not with Pantsir as it will have weight around 40 tons. It's like to say T-72 will be air droppable.

    They will rather use Luchnik or Sosna on it.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:39 pm

    medo wrote:Typhoon truck alone could air droppable, but not with Pantsir as it will have weight around 40 tons. It's like to say T-72 will be air droppable.

    They will rather use Luchnik or Sosna on it.

    Not true, it's actually in development:



    In particular, the defense Ministry is very interested in a marine complex. Already decided that, under the sea "armor" will modernize a number of destroyers and other large ships. In addition, in the interests of Russian Ground Forces and Airborne developed a modification of the anti-aircraft missile and gun complex "armor" crawler-based KAMAZ "Typhoon-K" .

    http://rostec.ru/news/4191


    It won't be the standard Pantsir-S1, but a modified version of it.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:22 am

    They might go for a lightened version, but with lighter air defence vehicles available I don't think they will bother...

    Have this from a while back:



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    Post  Viktor on Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:55 pm

    Growing in strength thumbsup

    In the Yaroslavl region will be revived 299th Airborne Regiment

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    Post  zg18 on Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:49 pm

    Ivanovo VDV snap exercise

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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:53 am

    Russian Airborne Forces Division Relocated to Arctic Amid Drills

    The main goal of the current snap drills is to assess combat readiness of Russian forces deployed in the Arctic region, according to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – A division of Russian Airborne Forces has been relocated from Ivanovo to the Arctic amid ongoing snap combat readiness drills in the country, the Defense Ministry said.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered to bring the country's Northern Fleet to full alert in a snap combat readiness exercise on March 16. The drills involve 38,000 military personnel, 3,360 pieces of equipment, 41 ships, 15 submarines, and 110 airplanes and helicopters.

    "Ilyushin Il-76 [Candid] airlifters delivered the servicemen and military technology to the military airfield in the Arctic, where the military servicemen from the Russian Airborne Forces are to perform various [drill] tasks," the ministry said in a statement.

    Russia notified the countries of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) of the snap Northern Fleet exercises that are taking place on March 16-21, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov said on Tuesday.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150318/1019650730.html#ixzz3UinWiGLS
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:06 pm

    VDV Forces form rapid-reaction units capable of deploying within 24 hours

    All Airborne Forces formations have established rapid reaction units capable of deploying within 24 hours. “The can be used to perform missions both on the territory of the Russian Federation as well as outside its borders,” noted Airborne Forces commander General Vladimir Shamanov.


    “Due to this initiative, we have sharply increased the intake at the Ryazan Airborne Forces Academy. Last year we accepted 540 applicants for the higher professional development course (officer), and 570 for the middle professional education course (sergeant). The first lasts five years, the second 2 years and 10 months,” the general said.

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/60144/
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    Post  TR1 on Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:13 am

    http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/808508.html

    Pics of VDV training.

    Also rumors that the plans of forming another VDV brigade are being cancelled or downgraded in scope.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:55 am

    TR1 wrote:http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/808508.html

    Pics of VDV training.

    Nice...


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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:01 pm

    Russian airborne force unit to get new combat gear for Arctic mission

    The new outfit is to ensure comfortable conditions for the body in the Far North and transpolar regions’ landing missions at air temperatures minus 50 degrees Celsius

    MOSCOW, March 31. /TASS/. Paratroopers of the Airborne Forces formation in Ivanovo (Central Russia) will get new combat garments for the Far North and transpolar missions, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman for the VDV Lieutenant Colonel Yevgeny Meshkov said on Tuesday.

    "The new outfit is to ensure comfortable conditions for the body in the Far North and transpolar regions’ landing missions at air temperatures minus 50 degrees Celsius," Meshkov said.

    According to him, the paratroopers’ combat garment comprises several elements in which soldiers can take dynamic actions and also remain motionless for a long time in the cold. "Paratroopers in this garment will be able to wait out strong winds with sleet not suffering health damage even staying motionless. The uniform is designed for quick change and putting on of any of the garment element depending on the conditions," the spokesman said.

    The Ivanovo paratroopers were among the airborne formations involved in a surprise inspection of the troops’ combat readiness in the Arctic that was conducted in the period from March 16 to 21. During the maneuvers they landed, in particular, on the Novaya Zemlya and Franz Joseph Land archipelagos and then took part in an exercise to defend the Olenegorsk airfield and the Northern Fleet headquarters from a simulated enemy.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:18 am

    100 paratroopers from Russia, Belarus, Tajikistan air dropped to North Pole

    In the next seven days, they will drill skills necessary to survive in conditions of extremely low temperatures

    MOSCOW, April 7. /TASS/. Paratroopers of the Ivanovo and Pskov airborne troops units jointly with contingents of the rapid deployment forces of the Collective Security Treaty Organization /CSTO/ member states were successfully air dropped on drifting ice floe in the Arctic Ocean, for the first time in history, Commander of the Russian Airborne Troops Colonel General Vladimir Shamanov told TASS on Tuesday.

    He said 100 paratroopers from Russia, Belarus and Tajikistan were drilling skills as part of the traning humanitarian rescue and search programme.

    "Today, 100 paratroopers, including 85 Russian and 13 Belarusian and Tajik servicemen, were air dropped in the area of the North Pole," he said. "They made parachute jumping from An-74 airplanes. They landed near the Kupol polar station on drifting ice in the exact vicinity of the North Pole."

    In the next seven days, they will drill skills necessary to survive in conditions of extremely low temperatures, to rescue polar explorers and crews of crashed planes and wrecked ships, Shamanov said, adding that they would use dogsleds, skis, paraplanes and hang-gliders.

    "This is the first-ever international humanitarian search and rescue expedition to the North Pole made by airborne troops of the Collective Security Treaty Organization," he underscored.
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    Post  George1 on Wed May 06, 2015 2:00 pm

    Russia's Airborne Troops to Receive Tanks

    According to Airborne Troop Commander Col.-Gen. Vladimir Shamanov, Russia’s Airborne Troops will soon be reinforced with tank units.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russia’s Airborne Troops will soon be reinforced with tank units, Airborne Troop Commander Col.-Gen. Vladimir Shamanov told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

    “In the near future we plan to receive a tank unit to reinforce our firepower,” Col.-Gen. Shamanov said.

    Russian Airborne Troops have armored vehicles, but tanks have never been included in their inventory.

    The elite military force, nicknamed in Russia the “blue berets” after the hats its soldiers wear, trace its origins to 1930, when the first parachute jump by the airborne troops took place.

    Since then, Soviet and subsequently Russian Airborne Troops have participated in a number of military conflicts, including important battles in World War II, conflicts in Afghanistan, Chechnya and South Ossetia.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150506/1021765727.html#ixzz3ZMJUVLns
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    Post  Bolt on Wed May 06, 2015 5:02 pm

    Which is great news.
    Now VDV is a force of elite trained soldiers without tanks, with lightly armoured vehicles (that can be penetrated with HMGs even), that are being used against normally equipped enemy - see 888 war, where VDV had to fight Georgian tanks and BMPs with their BMDs.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu May 07, 2015 2:12 am

    The VDV is not a front line force.

    The purpose of the VDVs armour is primarily mobility.

    Imagine a conflict with an enemy where a VDV operation is planned to take an airfield deep in the rear areas of the enemy forces. To directly land at that airfield would leave the cargo aircraft full of elite troops vulnerable to air defences which should be reasonable around a significant airfield even if there is not a large number of enemy troops or frontline MBTs.

    The purpose of the BMDs is that the VDV can land in the middle of nowhere 100km away from their airfield target... the enemy wont know what the target is, but with BMD vehicles they should be able to get to the airfield in less than 2 hours and mount an armoured attack on perimeter security forces with little or no armour and air defence systems... BMDs will stop HMG fire from the front... and their weapons will easily wipe out any resistance at that airfield... once they have captured it they can fly in reserves and then they can start flying in standard units and create a major foothold deep in enemy territory from which they can expand and attack enemy forces from behind... conventional ground forces can link up and really take the fight to the enemy.


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    Post  Bolt on Thu May 07, 2015 5:08 pm

    GarryB wrote:The VDV is not a front line force.

    The purpose of the VDVs armour is primarily mobility.

    Imagine a conflict with an enemy where a VDV operation is planned to take an airfield deep in the rear areas of the enemy forces. To directly land at that airfield would leave the cargo aircraft full of elite troops vulnerable to air defences which should be reasonable around a significant airfield even if there is not a large number of enemy troops or frontline MBTs.

    The purpose of the BMDs is that the VDV can land in the middle of nowhere 100km away from their airfield target... the enemy wont know what the target is, but with BMD vehicles they should be able to get to the airfield in less than 2 hours and mount an armoured attack on perimeter security forces with little or no armour and air defence systems... BMDs will stop HMG fire from the front... and their weapons will easily wipe out any resistance at that airfield... once they have captured it they can fly in reserves and then they can start flying in standard units and create a major foothold deep in enemy territory from which they can expand and attack enemy forces from behind... conventional ground forces can link up and really take the fight to the enemy.

    I'm not saying that VDV should not have a capability to be airdropped with their lighter vehicles at all. The fact that they just have such possibility makes an enemy think of defenses in his rear echelons, thus making his lines thinner - he can't be everywhere (unless it's the PLA we're speaking of).
    But the fact is, when it comes to a real conflict, VDV usually fights as a "standard", highly-trained and motivated motor-rifle infantry. To be honest, I'm not aware of any sorts of air drops with vehicles they did during the recent conflicts (but it doesn't mean I'm saying they did not do it, I just don't know much on this subject).
    I think they should keep their BMDs, so that when the time comes that they are needed to complete an airdrop mission (1% chance that it will be needed, but still it exists), they will do it. But adding tanks to their ranks is a good sign, meaning that when they fight as usually the do it (old-school, on the ground, without parachuting) they will have better firepower and what is more important, better armour.

    Hopefully, they will make everything as flexible as possible - depending on the situation, they could be given light vehicles or normal tanks.
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    Post  flamming_python on Thu May 07, 2015 6:46 pm

    Bolt wrote:
    GarryB wrote:The VDV is not a front line force.

    The purpose of the VDVs armour is primarily mobility.

    Imagine a conflict with an enemy where a VDV operation is planned to take an airfield deep in the rear areas of the enemy forces. To directly land at that airfield would leave the cargo aircraft full of elite troops vulnerable to air defences which should be reasonable around a significant airfield even if there is not a large number of enemy troops or frontline MBTs.

    The purpose of the BMDs is that the VDV can land in the middle of nowhere 100km away from their airfield target... the enemy wont know what the target is, but with BMD vehicles they should be able to get to the airfield in less than 2 hours and mount an armoured attack on perimeter security forces with little or no armour and air defence systems... BMDs will stop HMG fire from the front... and their weapons will easily wipe out any resistance at that airfield... once they have captured it they can fly in reserves and then they can start flying in standard units and create a major foothold deep in enemy territory from which they can expand and attack enemy forces from behind... conventional ground forces can link up and really take the fight to the enemy.

    I'm not saying that VDV should not have a capability to be airdropped with their lighter vehicles at all. The fact that they just have such possibility makes an enemy think of defenses in his rear echelons, thus making his lines thinner - he can't be everywhere (unless it's the PLA we're speaking of).
    But the fact is, when it comes to a real conflict, VDV usually fights as a "standard", highly-trained and motivated motor-rifle infantry. To be honest, I'm not aware of any sorts of air drops with vehicles they did during the recent conflicts (but it doesn't mean I'm saying they did not do it, I just don't know much on this subject).
    I think they should keep their BMDs, so that when the time comes that they are needed to complete an airdrop mission (1% chance that it will be needed, but still it exists), they will do it. But adding tanks to their ranks is a good sign, meaning that when they fight as usually the do it (old-school, on the ground, without parachuting) they will have better firepower and what is more important, better armour.

    Hopefully, they will make everything as flexible as possible - depending on the situation, they could be given light vehicles or normal tanks.

    To be honest I'm not sure about the solution; GarryB is right that the VDV is not supposed to be used as a frontline force, but you are right that the VDV has been used as if it is.
    The fact is - is that VDV formations are amongst the most combat-ready and experienced  in the Russian military, with the largest proportion of professional servicemen. They are also among the quickest to deploy. Thus in any kind of Georgian war scenario where immediate reaction is critical; they could well find themselves right in the front-line again.

    However I'm certain that air-droppability is absolutely essential; for reasons I will go into in a bit. The question is whether they should also be assigned heavier, non air-droppable (but certainly air-deployable) vehicles to double up their current vehicles - effectively each crew will have a reserve vehicle. This will certainly give them additional protection and firepower options in any deployment where airdrops are not required.
    Problems:

    1). It would increase the logistics tail and the footprint of the formation. Twice the vehicles - means twice the maintenance and check-ups when the formation is at its permanent base. Redeploying the formation will use more fuel if the heavier vehicles are used.
    2). More expensive; vehicles/fuel/ammunition/maintenance/training.
    3). Training of vehicle crews becomes twice as demanding; instead of mastering 1 set of equipment, they have to master 2 sets, which may differ considerably. It would be difficult to guarantee that crews would be as good with both types of vehicles as they currently are with 1 type of vehicle. Vehicle crews would certainly have to be professional servicemen, not conscripts.
    4). If formations are deployed to another location indefinitely or semi-permanently, they may well have to bring both sets of vehicles along just in case; along with all the extra logistical demands that this would entail.

    As for air-droppable vehicles; they are here to stay.
    First of all - large-scale airdrops are rather more likely than you realize; albeit all of them would assume that air-superiority has been established against an enemy air-force:

    a). In conjunction with EW aircraft, ongoing SEAD sorties and suppression of air-defenses (if against a country whose air-defense technology is a couple generations behind or so)
    b). In a region where air-defences have been destroyed, and at a sufficient altitude to avoid possible AAA or MANPADs (mobile, independent systems like the Buk that can lie in wait would be something to fear, but in practice such systems are only in service with a handful of militaries around the world)
    c). In a region where no enemy air defences are in range (more likely for larger and poorer countries - Central Asia, Ukraine, Mongolia, etc...)

    Secondly - large-scale airdrops are not the only scenarios under which air-droppable vehicles would come in handy:

    i). Small-scale airdrops, possibly SF operations; an EW vehicle could suppress enemy sensors/comms for the formation, a BTR-MD could get them to the target far quicker and give them an exit plan, a Sprut-SD could augment them with far greater firepower.
    ii). Reinforcement of friendly territory, where no airfields are present anywhere near (think - most of Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia or China)
    iii). Reinforcement of friendly territory, where airfields have already been destroyed or have been captured by the enemy's advance elements
    iv). Helicopter-based assaults or reinforcements, air-droppable vehicles are light enough to be carried by Mi-26s. Such operations could be optimal for flying low in order to avoid radar cover, and the VDV formation when transported this way is less vulnerable to enemy fire than when transported by fixed-wing transports (the Crimea op last Spring was an example of such a missed opportunity).

    In addition, air-droppable vehicles are lighter, faster, less maintanance-heavy, have lower ground-pressure, are usually amphibious and tend to be more mobile. This fits in with the sort of terrain where the VDV might well be expected to operate in any case; marshes, mountain-regions, etc... heavier vehicles would tend to slow them down - even if they did have the option to use them.

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